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Ogura Yui - Honey Come!! (TV Size)

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Kawashiro

Ali- wrote:

nice hitsounds

[expert]
for the beginning parts of this map, i really cant find any gleaming issues. its mostly a matter of preference, and its fine how it is, so i wont bother you with it. nice job <3

00:26:357 (6) - i dont like how the triple moves into this slider, the flow is janky. try rotating it a bit counter-clockwise. - "I don't like this"
is the worst reason to suggest something. And I like it.

00:16:738 (3,3,1,1) - personally, these types of sliders have nesting issues (like this). consider trying a different method, but its more of a personal thing - Almost same as above. is there any objective reason to change this?
00:40:379 (4,5,6,7,8) - this would support your structure better if it was overlapped with a previous slider head/circle
00:43:477 (5,3) - these could overlap without adding a lot of unnecessary difficulty - Nah, this gap is too far so it can't be overlapped
00:50:162 (1,2) - would look better if this was a blanket
00:59:129 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this flow feels off, consider change - Nah, this flow feels good to me
01:08:749 (2) - overlapped with a slider end instead of some thing like 01:07:444 (3) - , you could use rotation to make it work - There is no overlap cuz they have big time gap.
01:10:216 (4,5) - these two slider ends are landing on much more important sounds than their heads
01:13:640 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - flow is rather bad here, too. try to imagine a direction of revolving (ideally based on the previous directions), then use that one direction for the entire jump pattern. - That seems very subjective things. I like current patterns so i'll keep this
01:17:553 (1,2) - spacing doesnt make much sense here, its a sound where an anti-flow slider with large spacing would fit, but you happened to do the opposite
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very neat map, obviously predominantly focused on that. you should think about circular flow and emphasis through spacing more when you're mapping, especially a song like this which calls for that a lot. gl with ranking

Asuka_- wrote:

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00:28:640 (4,5,6) - you can change like 00:27:988 (1,2,3) - . because you made good patern such as 00:26:683 (1,2,3) -  vs 00:27:336 (4,5,6) -
maybe https://gyazo.com/03c458972ecfead41d3f0f3fab5f9018 - ur right but i like second things shape :3
00:50:162 (1,2) - more distance please. you have kill flow here, so not good to me. try move 00:50:488 (2) - to 23:181 - Nah, I don't think these are close.
01:17:471 - sound here! you did mapped 01:14:863 (8) - , there are identical to me!!
good diff

good luck


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hihi from my (useless) q!

Space Normal
add a circle at 00:34:999 - maybe?
since you stacked 00:45:596 (2,3) - why not stack 00:48:205 (2,3) - for consistency? You stacked it for 00:56:031 (2,3) - and 00:58:640 (2,3) - as well


LCFC Hard
01:18:857 - maybe decrease your SV here cuz it's calmer


Akitoshi's insane
I feel like making 00:09:727 (1,2,3) - 1/2 sliders might be better than the 3/4 sliders


Hope you found this (useless) mod helpful!

-From some skrub who's bad at mapping
bite you death
rip best hitsounding 2017
LowAccuracySS

Reynolduh wrote:

hihi from my (useless) q!

Space Normal
add a circle at 00:34:999 - maybe? na, it's fine as is because it is calmer
since you stacked 00:45:596 (2,3) - why not stack 00:48:205 (2,3) - for consistency? You stacked it for 00:56:031 (2,3) - and 00:58:640 (2,3) - as well I did the thing I did at 48 sec to 58 sec section


Hope you found this (useless) mod helpful!

-From some skrub who's bad at mapping
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osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 44455
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.799999

[Metadata]
Title:Honey Come!! (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:Honey Come!! (TV Size)
Artist:Ogura Yui
ArtistUnicode:小倉唯
Creator:Kawashiro
Version:Space's Normal
Source:城下町のダンデライオン
Tags:Castle Town Dandelion Joukamachi no Dandelion Ending Akitoshi LowComboFC [_Space_] tkbaka
BeatmapID:1406318
BeatmapSetID:661932

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:0.999999999999999
SliderTickRate:1

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update: fixed this 00:34:510 (1,2,3) - pattern asuka mentioned (not with an overlap though, I think that makes it harder, but there is no stack either anymore).

It's quite funny how you guys mention 01:18:857 (1) - this section while it's the exact same as 00:00:597 (1) - . To sum up I'd rather keep sv consistent ;-;

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Akitoshi

Reynolduh wrote:

Akitoshi's insane
I feel like making 00:09:727 (1,2,3) - 1/2 sliders might be better than the 3/4 sliders nah i prefer 3/4 for faster SV + aesthetics, there's no sound on red ticks either so ye
thanks for looking :D
Topic Starter
Kawashiro
Updated
Rizen
Alexsander
I really liked the hitsound, congratulations.

Easy
00:49:836 - I missed a circle elsewhere also with this 00:52:444 - check the others you may need to place :oops:
you may need to change some place notes ;)




Normal
00:39:564 (9) - I recommend you remove this circle because it does not make any sound

Your kiai is what troubled me in this difficulty.
well, let's go :D

00:48:205 (2,3) - these notes that you put do not match the beat gets weird.
Some examples of how you could leave

ex: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9234587 I rolled a little the slider is not very polished but it's just as an example :)

ex 2: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9234623 I put 2 circles in the white tick and a slider in the bigger white tick as it is in the image but you would have to change a lot on the map later on :D

There are a lot of mistakes in this kiai but I will not quit since it would be annoying. :lol:
bejewelled
Hello, doing this for M4M.


General Feedback
You don't have custom combo colors; you need at least 2 (this is really easy to add but IDK if you're aware of it).


Many of my mods are subjective. If you disagree with my mods, that's fine by me, just do so respectfully please.

Expert
I would bump HP down to 6 just because the CS is low meaning it's harder to be accurate.
00:21:466 (1) - Could continue the stream for up to 5 more circles to match the echo of the song.
00:31:493 (5,1) - I get that you're trying to match the song with spacing but it's still somewhat weird and confusing to play. If you want that surprising addition try making the start of the stream on the other side so players have to do a 180 with their wrist.
00:33:694 (2,3) - Don't think the song warrants that big of a jump.
00:35:162 (3,4) - ...but here, a larger jump seems more logical.
00:42:336 (1,2,3,4,5) - Maybe some more dramatic / louder hitsounds here?
00:54:564 (9,1) - I would stack 1 below 9's tail.

Insane
00:20:162 (1,2,3) - Doesn't match the 1/2 beats of the song.
01:10:216 (3) - Odd to play after coming off 2 straight sliders, then going into another straight slider.
Other than this I really don't see any errors. Sure there are a few things that seem weird but for the difficulty it's okay to keep them. Outstanding!

Hard
HP probably works better at 5 instead of 6.
AR doesn't match the slider velocity and is jarring when a player sees lower AR, but then a very fast slider. I would up AR to 8, but not past 8.5.
00:53:260 (2,3) - Regardless of whether there's a beat there I don't think these match the flow of the map that well. Most triples are on ends of measures, so this one contrasts that.
01:03:694 (2,3) - Same as above. Although, since you copied the same pattern between each phrase of the chorus it should be fine.
01:10:705 (5,1) - No triples here? Remember, overmapping IS allowed in order to add flair or keep the rhythm of the map. I would add a triple to mimic the last 2 "choruses".


I don't know much about easy/normal so I won't mod them :P

Rankability: 8.5 / 10 This map is almost perfect. If it got ranked now it would be fine; the mods I did were mostly for stylistic, subjective issues.
It's not higher because you still need to add the combo colors :)


Good luck!
lcfc

Swegmec wrote:

Hard
HP probably works better at 5 instead of 6. whoops, changed
AR doesn't match the slider velocity and is jarring when a player sees lower AR, but then a very fast slider. I would up AR to 8, but not past 8.5. set it to 7.8 cause 8 is still too high for me
00:53:260 (2,3) - Regardless of whether there's a beat there I don't think these match the flow of the map that well. Most triples are on ends of measures, so this one contrasts that. I can perfectly hear a triple and I believe there's a fair balance between both triplet usages
01:03:694 (2,3) - Same as above. Although, since you copied the same pattern between each phrase of the chorus it should be fine. ^
01:10:705 (5,1) - No triples here? Remember, overmapping IS allowed in order to add flair or keep the rhythm of the map. I would add a triple to mimic the last 2 "choruses". there is no triple here lol; adding it would be detrimental to the rhythm, it wouldn't help keep it at all
Thank you!

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bejewelled
*No kudosu needed*

Tell the creator to take map out of the graveyard btw.
Topic Starter
Kawashiro
@Swegmec : ok I'll do asap lol cant use laptop now
Deppyforce
q m4m

[expert]
00:00:597 - doesnt really matter but how about using lower sv for this beginning part
00:34:183 (4) - how about mapping 1/3 piano for variance
01:10:216 (4,5) - lol is this too big

[corinn]
00:14:618 (3) - can u make this more visible by moving it out to the right a bit
00:27:254 - there are 1/4 here dat u skipped how about changing 00:27:173 (3) - to kicksliders instead so theres atleast something on the sound (same for next one)
01:14:537 - theres no sound here tho

[lcfc]
00:13:640 (1) - nazi but maybe u could try to make 5's tail being in the perfect middle of this slider
00:30:433 (6) - stack under 5 instead so 6 -> 1 becomes a jump then downbeat will have better impact
01:03:857 (4) - stack nazi
01:14:618 (4) - u can move this note up a bit cuz it almost overlaps next circle now

[space]
00:08:423 (1,2) - ur not allowed to reverse a slider more than once in normal diff or lower cuz apparently newbies cant read it
00:37:444 - this 1/2 streak is too long
00:50:162 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - this flow doesnt fit with the rest of the map and the song doesnt support it in any way possible
01:00:596 - same
01:16:901 (2,3) - not readable in normal diff

[sky]
00:44:292 - not enough spinner recovery time in easy diff, u need atleast 1 measure
01:08:423 (1,2,3) - this flow looks out of place compared to rest of map lol atleast use it ''twice'' in the whole map if u wanna keep it

lower diffs could use some polishing
LowAccuracySS
aaaaa i'll respond soon sorry
Akitoshi
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Swegmec wrote:

Insane
00:20:162 (1,2,3) - Doesn't match the 1/2 beats of the song. variation on playing, also there's an audible things on 00:20:732 - so it should be alright
01:10:216 (3) - Odd to play after coming off 2 straight sliders, then going into another straight slider. vocal emphasis, i can get your point cuz i used straight sliders on 01:06:955 (1,2,3) - but 01:10:216 (3) - has longer held sound so yh
Other than this I really don't see any errors. Sure there are a few things that seem weird but for the difficulty it's okay to keep them. Outstanding! i have weird taste on every aspects

Deppyforce wrote:

[corinn]
00:14:618 (3) - can u make this more visible by moving it out to the right a bit ok
00:27:254 - there are 1/4 here dat u skipped how about changing 00:27:173 (3) - to kicksliders instead so theres atleast something on the sound (same for next one) this undermap is fine for differentiate some intensity change
01:14:537 - theres no sound here tho -_ -
thankies

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Title:Honey Come!! (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:Honey Come!! (TV Size)
Artist:Ogura Yui
ArtistUnicode:小倉唯
Creator:Kawashiro
Version:Akitoshi's Insane
Source:城下町のダンデライオン
Tags:Castle Town Dandelion Joukamachi no Dandelion Ending Akitoshi LowComboFC [_Space_] tkbaka
BeatmapID:1401278
BeatmapSetID:661932

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lcfc
all fixed from deppy's mod, thank you!

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Topic Starter
Kawashiro

Swegmec wrote:

General Feedback
You don't have custom combo colors; you need at least 2 (this is really easy to add but IDK if you're aware of it). - it seems not necessary

Expert
I would bump HP down to 6 just because the CS is low meaning it's harder to be accurate. - No, i think cs4.5 is not a small and 6.5 and 6 is almost same
00:21:466 (1) - Could continue the stream for up to 5 more circles to match the echo of the song. - No, vocal start at here
00:31:493 (5,1) - I get that you're trying to match the song with spacing but it's still somewhat weird and confusing to play. If you want that surprising addition try making the start of the stream on the other side so players have to do a 180 with their wrist. - "weird and confusing to play"
is not a good reason to change my own patterns.

00:33:694 (2,3) - Don't think the song warrants that big of a jump. - It seems fine to me. because of 00:32:390 (2,3,4) - this jump, it doesn't break the mood
00:35:162 (3,4) - ...but here, a larger jump seems more logical.
00:42:336 (1,2,3,4,5) - Maybe some more dramatic / louder hitsounds here? - No. It seems already pretty loud
00:54:564 (9,1) - I would stack 1 below 9's tail. - But I wouldn't

Deppyforce wrote:

q m4m

[expert]
00:00:597 - doesnt really matter but how about using lower sv for this beginning part - Nah, i think it already fit at song.
00:34:183 (4) - how about mapping 1/3 piano for variance - I aimed simple map so don't want to use 1/3
01:10:216 (4,5) - lol is this too big
no comment = fixed

Aki and LCFC's diffs are updated
LowAccuracySS

Deppyforce wrote:

[space]
00:08:423 (1,2) - ur not allowed to reverse a slider more than once in normal diff or lower cuz apparently newbies cant read it hopefully what I changed it to is better now, thanks
00:37:444 - this 1/2 streak is too long
00:50:162 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - this flow doesnt fit with the rest of the map and the song doesnt support it in any way possible can you explain? I just did this so it's cleaner and so I could manage space better
01:00:596 - same ^ ????????
01:16:901 (2,3) - not readable in normal diff fixed

lower diffs could use some polishing

TheBenderGamer wrote:

00:39:564 (9) - I recommend you remove this circle because it does not make any sound emphasizing the vocal, or at least it I think it did before I changed it in deppy's mod

Your kiai is what troubled me in this difficulty.
well, let's go :D

00:48:205 (2,3) - these notes that you put do not match the beat gets weird.
Some examples of how you could leave

ex: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9234587 I rolled a little the slider is not very polished but it's just as an example :)

ex 2: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9234623 I put 2 circles in the white tick and a slider in the bigger white tick as it is in the image but you would have to change a lot on the map later on :D

I don't like either of your suggestions because I'm clearly emphasizing the vocal in the part you suggested these changes to. If I really have to spell it out: syllable at 00:48:205, mutliple vocals in the held slider (sort of undermapped because it's still a normal), "ah" sound at 00:49:020

There are a lot of mistakes in this kiai but I will not quit since it would be annoying. :lol: No, I would like you to go further because if there are problems to you I can clarify my reasoning behind decisions or fix them. By just leaving it at that won't help the map get better and I would really like to hear your input on it! :)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e9bs8jri9e3vu ... D.osu?dl=0
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00:42:336 (1) - ficed
00:48:857 (3) - make curved
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