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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, May 21, 2018 at 12:06:05 AM

Artist: Tia
Title: Deal with the devil
Source: 賭ケグルイ
Tags: ryo(supercell) kakegurui compulsive gambler opening tv size kwk foxygrandpa xilver mir aeril sdafsf air imbor meat inspector 102335 _83 bor borborygmos pyroflayer shanipika shiguma dwtd
BPM: 141
Filesize: 4972kb
Play Time: 01:34
Difficulties Available:
  1. _83's Insane (4.58 stars, 336 notes)
  2. Advanced (2.11 stars, 160 notes)
  3. Aeril's Expert (5.58 stars, 353 notes)
  4. AIR's Insane (4.72 stars, 396 notes)
  5. Expert (7.45 stars, 495 notes)
  6. kwk's Expert (5.98 stars, 460 notes)
  7. Mir's Expert (5.73 stars, 400 notes)
  8. Normal (1.59 stars, 100 notes)
  9. sdafsf's Expert (5.11 stars, 413 notes)
  10. Shani's Hyper (4.25 stars, 412 notes)
  11. Shiguma's Hard (3.18 stars, 260 notes)
  12. Xilver's Expert (6.07 stars, 409 notes)


Download: Tia - Deal with the devil
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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this was going to be a gd, so it's a nerfed version of my usual mapping bc i don't like inhibiting setowners too much with ranking
but since that host is demotivated now, i've taken over the set
hope you still can enjoy this less expressive style

Shiguma's Hard by this person
Shani's Hyper by this person
_83's Insane by this person
AIR's Insane by this person (pro)
sdafsf's Expert by this person
Aeril's Expert by this person
Mir's Expert by this person
Xilver's Expert by this person
kwk's Expert by this person (and hs'd by this person)
Expert by me
(Normal and Advanced by me too)
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x2.56

1rd
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Xilver wrote:

x2.56

1rd
same
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timing check as requested!

note that with the timing i've used, you may see stuff like 01:29:280 - 01:32:197 - 01:32:373 - so 1/3 and 3/4 snaps are correct here

hope it helps and don't hesitate to ask for a 2nd opinion

diff to copy red lines
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looks good to me, thanks a ton raiden! <3
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Note: Mentions of a specific problem apply to other iterations of it also.

_83's Insane

00:06:812 (1) - This slider starts and ends at a bad time. Because there is one short note and one held note, the best rhythm to use here would be something like this.
00:07:131 (1,2,3,4,5) - Object one does not properly bridge the gap between itself and the circles that follow it. Turning it into a repeat slider that repeats once would work better.
00:08:268 (6,7) - Players are not expecting an overlap to have a 1/4 gap between objects, as the previous ones had been 1/2 gaps. Removing the overlap and placing object six beside object seven would work better.
00:13:433 (3) - This is a bad way of executing a 1/6 slider due to the odd gap in rhythm. It would be better to have this slider repeat once. These instances of a slider causing an odd gap in rhythm happen multiple times in the map.
00:37:543 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Having the gaps between sliderend and next slider be 1/6 is completely unnecessary, especially when considering that the previous gap was 1/4.
01:02:261 (2,3,4,5) - The movement for this is unintuitive and causes improper emphasis when compared to the rest like it. Something like this would be better.
01:13:036 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This rhythm with the overlaps is unexpected. Organizing the circles into triangles would fix this.

Weird gaps in the timeline and bad usage of sliders. The overlaps are a bit weird as well, but that's completely subjective. Some of the rhythms are unintuitive as well.

Mir's Expert

00:10:053 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The song calls for six drum beats in 1/6 time, but a 1/8 stream is used.
00:15:968 (1,2,3) and 00:16:708 (3) - These 1/4 sliders are unnecessary, circles would be better. This happens very often.
00:17:236 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - The circles before the sliders are unnecessary. The rhythm intensity is lowered due to the song intensity being lowered, what's the point in having 1/6 circles before sliders?
00:59:515 (1,2,1,2) - Circles instead of 1/4 sliders would fit better here.

This is MUCH harder than an Expert diff, could be renamed to "High Velocity Expert" maybe?
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over_loadcode wrote:

Note: Mentions of a specific problem apply to other iterations of it also.

_83's Insane

00:06:812 (1) - This slider starts and ends at a bad time. Because there is one short note and one held note, the best rhythm to use here would be something like this. this is a cool suggestion, but I think there are more appropriate types of emphasis to help facilitate a proper spread, for example in my version the emphasis comes from the halted movement at the slider end
00:07:131 (1,2,3,4,5) - Object one does not properly bridge the gap between itself and the circles that follow it. Turning it into a repeat slider that repeats once would work better.actually when you consider the time gap between the passive part of the object and the following notes you would notice its even
00:08:268 (6,7) - Players are not expecting an overlap to have a 1/4 gap between objects, as the previous ones had been 1/2 gaps. Removing the overlap and placing object six beside object seven would work better. players can expect this because the distance of the approach circles from each other changes
00:13:433 (3) - This is a bad way of executing a 1/6 slider due to the odd gap in rhythm. It would be better to have this slider repeat once. These instances of a slider causing an odd gap in rhythm happen multiple times in the map. I don't quite get where the issue here arises :/ I think its good
00:37:543 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Having the gaps between sliderend and next slider be 1/6 is completely unnecessary, especially when considering that the previous gap was 1/4. its kind of the fault of the music, the gaps are 1/6 because the drum beats and stuff are in 1/6
01:02:261 (2,3,4,5) - The movement for this is unintuitive and causes improper emphasis when compared to the rest like it. Something like this would be better. actually this movement is a type of emphasis that would bring relevance to each individual circle instead of having them played in a singular smooth fashion.
01:13:036 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This rhythm with the overlaps is unexpected. Organizing the circles into triangles would fix this. the abrupt stop helps the player recognize something different, especially since they are stacked and each stack is nc'd at the top it helps people recognize that it will be 1/3 based instead.
Thanks for the mod :D!
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Is this even going for rank, every map is controversial in its own way, and if it is, I could complain about stuff throughout the difficulties.
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MaridiuS wrote:

Is this even going for rank, every map is controversial in its own way, and if it is, I could complain about stuff throughout the difficulties.
yes this is going for rank, feel free to complain if you see it necessary, we'll respond to any concerns
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[expert]
00:03:939 (3) - this happens over few more difficulties, this seems like a pure overmap, I don't hear anything on that note at all.
00:04:577 (3) - ^ and more similar notes.
00:17:236 - this whole section could use some adjustments aesthetically, and structurally. There is no consistent visual spacing between notes, and the movement is also arbitrary. 00:21:673 (3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - for example these patterns here all have movement going from top to bottom, sharp angles and such. While before that everything is kinda chaotic, I don't notice any system of movement. Aesthetically it could be a bit polished: 00:19:983 (3) - for example is not fitting in the square, stacked on wrong note. 00:20:616 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - another messed up square. 00:21:814 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - is this even hexagrid, because it looks crude. 00:24:349 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - random angles, no connections, no present visual spacing and 00:25:476 (3,1,2,3,1,2) - more squares. Consistent visual spacing is having the same distance between notes always, that results in a tidy structure, and looks well I guess?

00:30:783 - rhythm here is very random. Keep in mind that its a short song, having short sections, so having at least some consistency wouldn't hurt. Actually I just revisited and noticed what you're following its the trumpet or w/e it is, but you know, since it took me so long as a mapper checking your map in detail to realize what you're following, it would be even more uncanny for the players. That leads me to believe that this isn't really what you should be following in the section, but should focus on more obvious layers and consistent ones, like the piano hitting like here, or the vocals 00:31:416 (1,2,2,3) - . The song is going really fast for people to notice distinct trumpet, right?
00:31:416 (1,2) - compare this to 00:31:944 (1,2,3,4) - this for example. What is the purpose of making (2) in the second pattern not a slider since it follows a vocal,
00:32:261 (4) - what does this even follow, there's nothing particular on it yet it is emphasized as a slider.
00:32:473 (1) - this is not a slider yet this is 00:32:895 (1) - , and a long one, resulting in ignoring this 00:33:106 - piano sound usually followed for jumps.

00:33:423 (3) - if you use this here as a slider it is expecting this to also be 00:33:740 (2) - for the sake of following the same instrument, but you give emphasis to the snare 00:33:846 (3) -.
00:32:684 (3,1) - please fix this overlap.
00:51:487 (1) - maybe out of screen, but you should consider anyways moving it a bit to the right.

01:01:416 (1) - okay so the kiai section, it is overloaded. Reason being, I don't think that contrasts and intesities of the song are properly followed. The note I linked here for example has a strong backup and strong vocals. 01:03:106 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2) - while this pattern has clearly stronger SV's when imo it should be much lower. The vocals aren't really intense here, tia even losing breath not singing loudly, just barely managing to do it rhythmically correct, preserving energy for other parts like. Its like chill jazz singing nothing too apparent, just because its a buildup doesnt mean it should go up to 3SV, like I'd give it 2.5SV max. 01:08:177 (1,1,2) - 01:14:937 (1,2,3) - Those overloaded sliders are imo not viable for these sounds and for christ sake, you could rescale the section not to be 7.5*, to make it more playable.

01:02:261 (1,2) - why do you hate blankets so much, they have been accepted in the meta because it is widely known that they making things like this look good if blanketed..
01:08:494 (2) - this should be a slider
01:10:360 (1,2) - (2) is seriously overemphasized, extremely uncomfy flow to it, uncomfy flow after it and big spacing, please reconsider, complete pain in the ass to play. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9057306 this for example makes the leniency from the (1) into it, resulting in also a bit hard but not a pain to play. Ofcourse readjust patterns after it if applied.
01:18:106 (3) - I really see no reason for this, it's not even consistent: 01:16:416 (3) - 01:23:177 (3) - It's used on a whim, if you plan on doing such weird SV's it is highly suggested to keep it consistent.

01:33:324 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - jesus christ

And aesthetics are imo really messy, Idk but in such an insane map, making it more tidy will make playing much more enjoyable, since the player will be able to recognize more what's going on. Firstly visual spacing is this: https://snag.gy/4guF0i.jpg all these lines, are kinda different, so by keeping the same visual appearence between two closest objects it would be much more tidy, and understandable for players: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9057376 , basic stuff, just probs not what you intend with gameplay. This could be applied to a lot of the map
00:31:944 (1,2,3) - next we have unplanned overlaps, structurally you should choose either partial or full overlaps, in a same pattern there's an partial and full overlap leading to poor design. Happens more than only this pattern
00:33:740 (2,3,1) - "map is based on overlaps" That doesn't mean every overlap looks good, this is really messy and you could really reposition it a bit or something idk.
00:37:543 (1,2) - random pattern complaining, and why I don't like it looks: look at the space between 1 and 2, nothing is being filled, and curves are not circular. Placing 2 somewhere like here https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9057388 wouuld make the odd curve matching disappear.
00:38:283 (2,3,1) - look at this pattern and compare visual spacings. Also new issue here is how do you think the circular slider is connecting with the linear one? In no way I see fit, the curved slider should have its empty space aimed opposite of the linear slider https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9057399 , having no weird empty spaces.
01:01:416 (1,2,3,1,2) - huge visual spacing differences and such. I would usually not be against any aesthetics, but on maps that have huge star rating and density it is kinda required to make it more accessible for the players.

Will probably edit complaining about few more difficulties. Sorry for bad wording or mod design, I'm kinda in a hurry and a rusty modder.
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over_loadcode wrote:

Mir's Expert

00:10:053 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The song calls for six drum beats in 1/6 time, but a 1/8 stream is used.
00:15:968 (1,2,3) and 00:16:708 (3) - These 1/4 sliders are unnecessary, circles would be better. This happens very often. - i think it's fine personally, makes no difference and if anything is more lenient at the cost of being somewhat harder to read
00:17:236 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - The circles before the sliders are unnecessary. The rhythm intensity is lowered due to the song intensity being lowered, what's the point in having 1/6 circles before sliders? - hihats
00:59:515 (1,2,1,2) - Circles instead of 1/4 sliders would fit better here. - nah these 1/8 sliders are perf

This is MUCH harder than an Expert diff, could be renamed to "High Velocity Expert" maybe?
idk about diffname up to UC

thanks!

fixes:
osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 0
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.2
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Title:Deal with the devil
TitleUnicode:Deal with the devil
Artist:Tia
ArtistUnicode:Tia
Creator:UndeadCapulet
Version:Mir's Expert
Source:賭ケグルイ
Tags:
BeatmapID:1401231
BeatmapSetID:659328

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posted

MaridiuS wrote:

[expert]
00:03:939 (3) - this happens over few more difficulties, this seems like a pure overmap, I don't hear anything on that note at all. sax/trumpet beats here
00:04:577 (3) - ^ and more similar notes.
00:17:236 - this whole section could use some adjustments aesthetically, and structurally. There is no consistent visual spacing between notes, and the movement is also arbitrary. 00:21:673 (3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - for example these patterns here all have movement going from top to bottom, sharp angles and such. While before that everything is kinda chaotic, I don't notice any system of movement. Aesthetically it could be a bit polished: 00:19:983 (3) - for example is not fitting in the square, stacked on wrong note. 00:20:616 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - another messed up square. 00:21:814 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - is this even hexagrid, because it looks crude. 00:24:349 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - random angles, no connections, no present visual spacing and 00:25:476 (3,1,2,3,1,2) - more squares. Consistent visual spacing is having the same distance between notes always, that results in a tidy structure, and looks well I guess? prefer my current arranging, gives more freedom in motioning, all the slight rotational changes and things are intentional, specific geometric shapes would just stand out here instead of giving the entire section a cohesive feeling. i also get to have nice subtle effects like the long top-to-bottom linear motioning of 00:28:433 (3,1,2,3,1,2) - to build into the next section, etc.

00:30:783 - rhythm here is very random. Keep in mind that its a short song, having short sections, so having at least some consistency wouldn't hurt. Actually I just revisited and noticed what you're following its the trumpet or w/e it is, but you know, since it took me so long as a mapper checking your map in detail to realize what you're following, it would be even more uncanny for the players. That leads me to believe that this isn't really what you should be following in the section, but should focus on more obvious layers and consistent ones, like the piano hitting like here, or the vocals 00:31:416 (1,2,2,3) - . The song is going really fast for people to notice distinct trumpet, right? ww nice to see you realized what i was following, i think it's the important part, and fits my rhythming structure of brass-based stuffs that you can see throughout the map
00:33:423 (3) - if you use this here as a slider it is expecting this to also be 00:33:740 (2) - for the sake of following the same instrument, but you give emphasis to the snare 00:33:846 (3) -. following sax as usual, and clicking on 00:33:846 (3) - brass as well, players should find this rhythming intuitive, esp since if you look at just clickingmotions 00:33:212 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - is 2 triples
00:32:684 (3,1) - please fix this overlap. nope this is a special arrange for sliderleniency manipulation between 3 and 1 and makes for a great play experience
00:51:487 (1) - maybe out of screen, but you should consider anyways moving it a bit to the right. it's not offscreen so no need

01:01:416 (1) - okay so the kiai section, it is overloaded. Reason being, I don't think that contrasts and intesities of the song are properly followed. The note I linked here for example has a strong backup and strong vocals. 01:03:106 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2) - while this pattern has clearly stronger SV's when imo it should be much lower. The vocals aren't really intense here, tia even losing breath not singing loudly, just barely managing to do it rhythmically correct, preserving energy for other parts like. Its like chill jazz singing nothing too apparent, just because its a buildup doesnt mean it should go up to 3SV, like I'd give it 2.5SV max. we clearly have different interpretations of the song here, for me the sharp doublesvocals and sax are a very distinct and intense part, and i've gotten a lot of positive opinions for these arranges and how they fit the song here. and 01:01:416 (1) - is a nicely emphasized kiai start since it relieves all the tension built up with the previous slow sliders 01:08:177 (1,1,2) - 01:14:937 (1,2,3) - Those overloaded sliders are imo not viable for these sounds and for christ sake, you could rescale the section not to be 7.5*, to make it more playable. they fit well for me, and it's not the mapper's issue how difficult the map is, just the players, there will be plenty other diffs in the set for the weak like us

01:02:261 (1,2) - why do you hate blankets so much, they have been accepted in the meta because it is widely known that they making things like this look good if blanketed.. blankets server to overly restrict design and hamper cursor pacing. this slider arrange makes for a sharper motion from circle to sliderhead and leads better into the 01:02:578 (1) - circle, so no change. you even acknowledge that i clearly avoid blanketing at all costs, so you certainly have a good sense for map analysis, i wish you directed that more towards improving the mapper's intentions of a map instead of insisting on your own ideals, you would have a great and healthy modding career if so
01:08:494 (2) - this should be a slider prefer current rhythming, tho i may reconsider this in the future
01:10:360 (1,2) - (2) is seriously overemphasized, extremely uncomfy flow to it, uncomfy flow after it and big spacing, please reconsider, complete pain in the ass to play. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9057306 this for example makes the leniency from the (1) into it, resulting in also a bit hard but not a pain to play. Ofcourse readjust patterns after it if applied. still gathering testplays for the diff in general to see what is too harsh, tho i think this is perfectly acceptable in playing already, we shall see
01:18:106 (3) - I really see no reason for this, it's not even consistent: 01:16:416 (3) - 01:23:177 (3) - It's used on a whim, if you plan on doing such weird SV's it is highly suggested to keep it consistent. it's consistent with 01:04:585 (3) - , and those reset the cursor hand to prepare for the upcoming wavearranges, and directly contrast 01:05:994 (1) - and 01:19:515 (3) - sv increases

01:33:324 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - jesus christ lol, current testplays have shown this is easier than most of the kiai, it's more just a neat effect for a good conclusion

And aesthetics are imo really messy, Idk but in such an insane map, making it more tidy will make playing much more enjoyable, since the player will be able to recognize more what's going on. Firstly visual spacing is this: https://snag.gy/4guF0i.jpg all these lines, are kinda different, so by keeping the same visual appearence between two closest objects it would be much more tidy, and understandable for players: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9057376 , basic stuff, just probs not what you intend with gameplay. This could be applied to a lot of the map
00:31:944 (1,2,3) - next we have unplanned overlaps, structurally you should choose either partial or full overlaps, in a same pattern there's an partial and full overlap leading to poor design. Happens more than only this pattern
00:33:740 (2,3,1) - "map is based on overlaps" That doesn't mean every overlap looks good, this is really messy and you could really reposition it a bit or something idk.
00:37:543 (1,2) - random pattern complaining, and why I don't like it looks: look at the space between 1 and 2, nothing is being filled, and curves are not circular. Placing 2 somewhere like here https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9057388 wouuld make the odd curve matching disappear.
00:38:283 (2,3,1) - look at this pattern and compare visual spacings. Also new issue here is how do you think the circular slider is connecting with the linear one? In no way I see fit, the curved slider should have its empty space aimed opposite of the linear slider https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9057399 , having no weird empty spaces.
01:01:416 (1,2,3,1,2) - huge visual spacing differences and such. I would usually not be against any aesthetics, but on maps that have huge star rating and density it is kinda required to make it more accessible for the players. if players cannot read the map, that is only the players' issue, not mine. the map as is build much more on true song expression and cursor theory, traditional visual concepts server to only hinder that imo. no overlaps are unplanned and all arranges have purpose

Will probably edit complaining about few more difficulties. Sorry for bad wording or mod design, I'm kinda in a hurry and a rusty modder. lol if that was you in a hurry you are rly good at wording. thank you for your time but we just have fundamental disagreements in mapping. i read those mapping rantposts on your userpage, i am someone that doesn't see rlc maps as particularly nicelooking, they are just boring to me

If you still wish to mod the other diffs, is it okay if you wait for a while? The set is still unfinished and I have my own modding to do on them first. Set is still in it's infancy, with testplays, polishing, and hitsounding to come, before a full push for rank. I can call you when that time comes if you wish.

I appreciate your time, thanks for the random check!

Mir wrote:

idk about diffname up to UC everything is Expert!!
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sdafsf's Expert

Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 00:13:363 (4,5) - this doesn't really fit the movements you were making prior, i know you're trying to represent the music sorta trailing off here but due to forcing this to be a stop you end up creating more pressure than necessary, editing this would mean ruining the aesthetics and structure you have here though so be careful
  2. 00:16:708 (3) - this is at a really awkward angle considering the huge jumps you just asked the player to make, place it a little bit to the left (doesn't need to be much) to give the player a bit of a buffer for this pattern, the slider after is easy to hit anyway
  3. 00:23:574 (1) - this plays like a return slider but looks like a regular slider. it's straight up unrankable (i thought it was a hard to read return slider until i saw it in editor)
  4. 00:33:635 (2,3) - this is convenient for your aesthetics but doesn't represent the music at all and sounds nothing like the same pattern you used earlier 00:13:363 (4,5) -
  5. 00:36:698 (1,2) - you seem to do blanket spacing or stack spacing when it's convenient for you, the music didn't change here at all yet you use blanket spacing while you were using stack spacing before
  6. 00:40:395 (2,3) - considering this is consistent, maybe my earlier point is less relevant, i still think this is bad representation though
  7. 00:51:487 (1) - i find these vocal sections to be really weak to play, way weaker than the song warrants. i get what you're trying to do but i'd prefer if you also followed the bassline here for some added oomph
  8. 01:06:592 (4,1,2) - a giant spacing increase mid-stream and a huge angle change? okay, even if this was warranted, the jump to (2) afterwards really isn't. just the spacing or angle would be enough here - if you do want to keep the spacingangle change, at least make the angle you use less awkward, cause this is a sudden mess imo
  9. 01:08:177 (1) - this not being stacked on the sliderhead of 01:07:332 (1) - ruins the thing you were trying to do here
  10. 01:13:036 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - i did these kinds of 1/3 jumps in double helix and god they are bad. how are you emphasizing very pronounced 1/3s with a fluid motion? it makes no sense. the only thing these serve to do is highlight the triangle jumps at the end, but that's cause the triangle jumps actually do this correctly. i'd advise having progressive triangles instead (increasing the spacing each instance)
  11. 01:28:439 (2,3,4) - these stacks look like 1/4 triples cause that's what you used this spacing for 00:10:053 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - here. try something like this 00:46:839 (3,4,5) - instead (minus the slider repeat of course)

Good luck!
posted

Tess wrote:

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sdafsf's Expert

Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 00:13:363 (4,5) - this doesn't really fit the movements you were making prior, i know you're trying to represent the music sorta trailing off here but due to forcing this to be a stop you end up creating more pressure than necessary, editing this would mean ruining the aesthetics and structure you have here though so be careful moved a bit
  2. 00:16:708 (3) - this is at a really awkward angle considering the huge jumps you just asked the player to make, place it a little bit to the left (doesn't need to be much) to give the player a bit of a buffer for this pattern, the slider after is easy to hit anyway moved a bit
  3. 00:23:574 (1) - this plays like a return slider but looks like a regular slider. it's straight up unrankable (i thought it was a hard to read return slider until i saw it in editor) adjusted 2nd curve
  4. 00:33:635 (2,3) - this is convenient for your aesthetics but doesn't represent the music at all and sounds nothing like the same pattern you used earlier 00:13:363 (4,5) - fits the trumpets nicely imo
  5. 00:36:698 (1,2) - you seem to do blanket spacing or stack spacing when it's convenient for you, the music didn't change here at all yet you use blanket spacing while you were using stack spacing before i space them when there are trumpets
  6. 00:40:395 (2,3) - considering this is consistent, maybe my earlier point is less relevant, i still think this is bad representation though
  7. 00:51:487 (1) - i find these vocal sections to be really weak to play, way weaker than the song warrants. i get what you're trying to do but i'd prefer if you also followed the bassline here for some added oomph vocals are the main focus of this map and i really want the contrast in intensity
  8. 01:06:592 (4,1,2) - a giant spacing increase mid-stream and a huge angle change? okay, even if this was warranted, the jump to (2) afterwards really isn't. just the spacing or angle would be enough here - if you do want to keep the spacingangle change, at least make the angle you use less awkward, cause this is a sudden mess imo lowered it a bit. i think the intensity is important to make the vocal stand out
  9. 01:08:177 (1) - this not being stacked on the sliderhead of 01:07:332 (1) - ruins the thing you were trying to do here i think its fine and manly part of the visual style
  10. 01:13:036 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - i did these kinds of 1/3 jumps in double helix and god they are bad. how are you emphasizing very pronounced 1/3s with a fluid motion? it makes no sense. the only thing these serve to do is highlight the triangle jumps at the end, but that's cause the triangle jumps actually do this correctly. i'd advise having progressive triangles instead (increasing the spacing each instance) changed to back and forth movement
  11. 01:28:439 (2,3,4) - these stacks look like 1/4 triples cause that's what you used this spacing for 00:10:053 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - here. try something like this 00:46:839 (3,4,5) - instead (minus the slider repeat of course) sure


thanks
Good luck!
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posted
AIR's Insane

00:17:447 to 00:20:511 and 00:24:208 to 00:27:166 feels weird when i play it, i think it's not in the rhythm.
idk how to explain or where to put the note's in this reply section lol im a noob so i just copy the [Hit Objects] code of the AIR's Insane diff. map.
[HitObjects]
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154,302,642,1,0,2:0:0:0:
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94,264,1493,1,0,2:0:0:0:
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156,351,12166,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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301,288,27166,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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494,62,88439,5,0,1:0:0:0:
509,313,88552,2,0,L|422:298,1,52.5,0|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
379,290,88779,2,0,L|247:266,1,105,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
25,197,89315,5,0,1:0:0:0:
3,245,89417,1,0,0:0:0:0:
23,292,89520,1,0,1:0:0:0:
74,301,89623,2,0,L|203:269,1,105,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
401,181,90149,5,0,1:0:0:0:
326,195,90256,2,0,L|321:124,2,52.5,0|0|0,0:0|1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
206,25,90685,1,0,1:0:0:0:
131,42,90792,2,0,P|97:54|115:89,1,52.5,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
154,108,91113,6,0,L|-5:148,1,157.5,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
15,218,91634,5,4,0:0:0:0:
114,165,91845,2,0,P|142:182|138:226,1,52.5,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
122,283,92056,1,0,1:0:0:0:
122,283,92162,2,0,P|160:234|124:184,1,105,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
364,68,92690,1,0,1:0:0:0:
330,108,92795,1,0,0:0:0:0:
341,159,92901,1,0,1:0:0:0:
385,185,93007,2,0,L|507:175,1,105,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
499,101,93324,5,8,0:3:0:0:
292,31,93464,1,8,0:3:0:0:
319,228,93605,1,8,0:3:0:0:
407,120,93746,1,8,0:3:0:0:
195,141,93887,1,8,0:3:0:0:
325,300,94028,1,8,0:3:0:0:
325,300,94450,6,0,B|356:274|306:253|306:253|273:298|331:320|331:320|319:358|343:372,1,210

paste it, i only move the (1) to (8) note's 2 beat forward.
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"less expressive style"

and yet its unplayable gggggggggggggg
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idk if you plan to have more gds but i feel like doing one xd
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dont rly accept gd's from people that aren't already good friends, sorry x:
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From maximize star rating (MSR) request
Take Expert as standard
  1. Offset : 2025 -> 2751
    No mod | DT mod
  2. timing : 0 -> 0 | 0 -> 0
  3. Normal : 1.59 -> 1.58 | 2.13 -> 2.12
  4. UndeadKisses's Advanced : 2.08 -> 2.09 | 2.82 -> 2.85
  5. Shiguma's Hard : 3.24 -> 3.26 | 4.46 -> 4.47
  6. Shani's Hyper : 4.25 -> 4.25 | 5.95 -> 5.94
  7. _83's Insane : 4.57 -> 4.57 | 6.45 -> 6.47
  8. AIR's Insane : 4.75 -> 4.73 | 6.48 -> 6.45
  9. sdafsf's Expert : 5.12 -> 5.08 | 7.18 -> 7.17
  10. Mir's Expert : 5.75 -> 5.79 | 7.97 -> 8.1
  11. Xilver's Expert : 5.93 -> 5.94 | 8.09 -> 8.15
  12. kwk's Expert : 5.97 -> 5.99 | 8.28 -> 8.31
  13. Expert : 7.47 -> 7.51 | 10.21 -> 10.38

Download MSR version here
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HAHAHAHAHAHA MINE DOESN'T CHANGE

this is really cool though
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