Ataraxia wrote:

[Extra]

1. 00:00:380 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,1,1,2,3) - Sinceramente, deixe tudo na sample soft-default e siga o vocais com o whistle, eu não sei como sons de Kick estão se conectando aqui, se a musica fosse mais voltado pro genero de Metal até entenderia but é um rock J simples... se você colocar whistles seguindo os vocais vai da pra por em todo momento e fica melhor que assim
   
   01:25:998 (5,8) - Overlap mto desnecessario, ja que é sessões de jumps, poderia simplesmente aumentar o DS ai.

Ok, apliquei tudo

por hora só. Completo o mod futuramente

Ataraxia wrote:

[ATP extra]

1. 00:44:537 (3) - NC sem necessidade, retire ele. o mesmo vale em 01:11:504 (1) - Gay mas ok

Sonnyc wrote:

Extra.
01:10:323 - I liked the 1/1 gaps in your diffTHANKS, but since there's a vocal existing in this part unlike other empty spotsDidnt notice this one , i'll fix it, mapping this part would fit the song better imo.Thanks a lot <3

Sonnyc wrote:

Easy.
00:48:919 (2,1) - I think the overlap with the end of (1) and the body of (2) can be avoided. Since the current spacing is 1.10x, reducing it to 1.00x will make things easier. Fixed

Hard.
00:57:177 (1,2) - I'm not sure if this jump was really necessary, since the music change wasn't really noticable imo. Fixed
01:21:278 (1,2,3) - 00:54:312 (1,2,3) - These feel like some rhythm inconsistency. Would be better in rhythm structures if you could made the rhythms the same. Fixed
01:27:009 (1) - Since this is a hard, I think it's okay to start the spinner a little earlier than now. I'm not really sure which part of the music it's following right now. Okay, I left him at 01: 26: 840 -

Insane.
00:01:728 (5,1,4,1) - I can't really catch what combo logic you were following. Shapes seem to be the closest guess for me, but I'm not sure if combo settings were fitting with the song. I didn't understand your point
00:27:346 (1,2,3) - These were all in the same direction, and I wasn't sure if this created some good momentum in playing aspect. Making (1,2) a closer overlap would work better imo. I don't think it's better
00:55:660 (1,2,3) - Since (3) isn't having something different in the song, setting some different spacing concept felt awkward.00:56:335 - Sound is relatively strong compared to this session
01:00:969 (7,1) - I didn't get why the spacing for here decreased? owo Fixed :/

Expert.
00:01:054 (3,1) - Why is this having an overlap, while no major change happened in the song? I don't see some overlap concept being used around here, so it felt really inconsistent. If you really want to use that, at least you'll want something consistent for 00:06:447 (4,1). Fixed
00:30:042 (1,2,3,4) - The song is quite different here, but the mapping idea that was applied felt quite similar with 00:11:166 (1,2,3,4) which had a different song. The techniques itself felt quite fine enough, but since the idea was commonly used for different parts of the song, it didn't felt nice in representing this song. altered

Technical levels of the map felt nice enough. Yet, since I think the concept of your mappings weren't established further for sections, I'm not really sure if I can tell the difference between kiai vs non-kiai or the similarity between kiai sections in your mapping. Don't get me wrong, they do exist, but I think you can expand your concepts for each sections even further than now. I don't think that's a very big problem

I think you've got potential. Good luck!

1. 00:11:166 (1,1) - Lowering the starting position slightly will eliminate overlap 00:11:166 (1,2,3) -
2. 00:30:042 (1) - 00:28:694 (3,1) - Since the tune has changed from here, it is uncomfortable to express with the same slider
   00:27:346 (1,3) - As the song is ringing with loud sounds here, I think that you can use 1/1 slider here
3. 00:58:357 (4) - Add NC considering pattern

1. 00:31:728 (2) - I feel uncomfortable in the rhythm
   Stop folding and add circles to the slider end place how about
2. 00:38:638 (2,3) - It is better to do Ctrl+G when thinking about rhythm
   01:05:604 (2,3) - just like here
3. 00:46:728 (2,3) - ^
4. 01:15:969 (2) - Since there is no sound here, it is overmap

1. 00:04:256 - I think that spinners will fit after adding circles here according to vocals
2. 00:09:144 (1,1) - There is no point in placing NC here
   There is no distinctive sound, vocals are not emphasizing
3. 00:27:346 (1,2,3) - It looks the same distance, but because the rhythm is different, I get a misunderstanding

Net0 wrote:

NM

[General]

1. Coloca vídeo na diff ATP Ok
2. Tem um hitsound não usado na pasta drum-hitwhistle2.wav Excluido
3. Qualidade do áudio está ruim, 153 kbps. Lembre-se de sempre usar uma qualidade 192 na medida do possível e se tratando de música de anime é muito fácil conseguir o mp3 (na maioria dos casos pelo menos), lá no servidor tem link de sites que vc vai achar essa música com qualidade superior :< Alterei

[Easy]

1. 00:11:166 (1,2,3) - O visual disso tá um pouco off se vc comparar o spacing de 1-2 e 2-3, parece que o 3 está mais próximo, não é obrigatório mudar mas fica a dica. :/
2. Ia ficar mais legal se fosse um blanket mas imagino que com esse DS vc tentou e não deu muito certo 00:42:177 (1,2) - . Bom eu recomendo um overlap parcial pra ficar mais polido https://puu.sh/zFHJl.png eu fiz algo diferente mas creio que funcionou
3. Não faz wave desse jeito, tá muito estranho 00:48:919 (2) - faz com a técnica dos 4 pontos ou 5 pontos :/ Ok
4. Mesma coisa sobre o aspecto visual 00:48:919 (2,1) - melhorei

[Normal]

1. 01:18:582 (3,4) - Achei esse ritmo estranho porque o vocal prolongado está aqui 01:18:582 (3) - e não aqui 01:18:919 (4) - . Faz mais sentido dar ctrol+g nesse ritmo. também achei, alterado
2. 01:21:953 (5,2) - Stack :3 fixed

[Hard]

1. 00:30:379 (2,1) - Ajeita o stack Ok
2. 00:30:042 (1,3) - Está um tanto quanto difícil de ler isso aqui, porque a nota stackado no final do slider 1 aqui lembra isso aqui 00:29:031 (2,3,4) - . Eu recomendo que vc mude a posição do 00:30:717 (3) - Não acho que seja um problema
3. Vc pode dar uma melhorada na estética disso aqui 00:35:436 (1,2,3,4) - , o 00:35:941 (2,4) - parece que está fora do pattern se vc olhar o spacing e o blanket. Ok eu alterei
4. 00:54:312 (1,2,3) - e 01:21:278 (1,2,3) - muta os sliderends prolongados Acho que não precise mutar, o som já está baixo

[Collab Insane]

1. Stack 00:12:514 (1,1) - ok
2. O flow aqui 00:33:413 (9,1) - ficaria mais interessante se o 00:33:582 (1) - não seguisse o flow da stream 00:32:739 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - . Tenta colocar ele em por exemplo em x:28 y: 356 mudei para o que você sugeriu
3. Melhora esse pattern tá bem estranho tanto o suposto blanket como o spacing das sliderends com as outras pontas do próximo slider. Outra coisa sobre isso aqui 00:54:312 (1,2,3,4,1) - é que o hard tá usando um ritmo mais difícil. Ou vocês nerfam o ritmo da hard diff ou pelo menos repetem ele aqui. corrigido, e sobre o ritmo a diff é um collab então ter diferenças em relação a uma diff mais baixa não vejo problema
4. 01:25:997 (3,5) - podia usar o mesmo spacing daqui pra fazer essa distancia aqui 01:25:997 (3,1) - . Ok :/

Cansei x.x, boa sorte!

Yasaija 714 wrote:

hi
easy

1. 00:11:166 (1,1) - Lowering the starting position slightly will eliminate overlap 00:11:166 (1,2,3) - Okay, fixed
2. 00:30:042 (1) - 00:28:694 (3,1) - Since the tune has changed from here, it is uncomfortable to express with the same slider I used many sliders that way, i left consistent
   00:27:346 (1,3) - As the song is ringing with loud sounds here, I think that you can use 1/1 slider here I wanted to simplify the sound as much as possible
3. 00:58:357 (4) - Add NC considering pattern Ok

hard

1. 00:31:728 (2) - I feel uncomfortable in the rhythm
   Stop folding and add circles to the slider end place how about Ok
2. 00:38:638 (2,3) - It is better to do Ctrl+G when thinking about rhythm I don't find it better
   01:05:604 (2,3) - just like here ^
3. 00:46:728 (2,3) - ^ ^
4. 01:15:969 (2) - Since there is no sound here, it is overmap fixed

collab insane

1. 00:04:256 - I think that spinners will fit after adding circles here according to vocals don't agree :/
2. 00:09:144 (1,1) - There is no point in placing NC here
   There is no distinctive sound, vocals are not emphasizing if speaking a different word can already serve as an emphasis
3. 00:27:346 (1,2,3) - It looks the same distance, but because the rhythm is different, I get a misunderstanding fixed

Good luck!

Sotarks wrote:

Hi,

Yotsugi
00:21:321 (1) - This will we better as a single circle since you don't have 1/4 beats on it.
00:33:456 (1) - ^ you can so same thing here ( tho those suggestions, are really subjective, you can keep it.)
leaving the 1/4 would leave a greater strain than using a circle
00:39:861 (2,3) - can you ctrl+g the rhythm here to follow the main vocal sound on red tic? 00:40:029 - because here you have it on a slider end
01:04:130 (2,3) - ^ same here
Ok

00:43:821 (3,7) - really makes me sad when you overmap triplets 1/4 when there are no sound on those actual beats :[
01:10:451 (8) - ^ overmaped here too
I removed the overmap but kept the stack, I think it looks better for the representation

00:49:973 (1) - I'd change the shape of this slider just for the sake of not having it be the same that 00:49:636 (1,2) - to avoid the missread of the SV change, just slightly curve it. Ok

01:25:703 (1,1,1) - just remove nc here, those don't work as 1-2 combo pattern. Ok


Expert
00:18:625 (4,5) - SInce you follow vocals on this section how about doing it here too? Try smth like this instead Ok

Hard
00:32:276 (4) - Fix this stack here xd fixed
[]

Ok this set is fine!
Just provide me the metadata and we should be good once those will be adressed.
Call me back for recheck. :)
edit: I changed the offset off

Sotarks wrote:

Hi,Hello :3
ATP
00:14:243 (2,3) - You can ctrl+g this to follow vocalsKay

00:24:187 (4) - here can you make a rhythm like this instead, focus the song in a better place with that.i didnt like it that much tbh , i'll just put 2 notes in the place of the slider

00:26:546 (3,4) - I don't get this usage of 1/4 sliders here, there's nothing on 1/4 to be supported. How about making a rhythm like you did 00:23:512 (2) - here for consistency?changed the kick sliders to circles , her vocals in this section are more itense and i like the way it is rn tbh so i'll keep the rhythm

00:36:658 (5,1) - Spacing really low here, consider moving that to make it more emphasized ?Kay , rotated a lil bit and moved it

00:52:670 (5,6) - Can you keep consistency stack with 00:36:490 (4,5) - ?KayTried at least

Sotarks wrote:

Recheck

Yotsugi
01:04:299 (3,4) - Actually you didn't understand what what the problem on this one, now with what you did 01:04:467 - this is not clickable while it's major voice sound. just ctrl+g 01:04:299 (3,4) - the rhythm here.

01:10:366 (7,1) - Those should be stacked because you kill emphasis on 01:10:534 (1) -. So if you want stack here, 01:10:029 (5,6) - stack them, having same vocals here represent in a better place the music

00:43:749 (2,3) - Same here man stacks don't represent music so well, 00:43:581 (1,2) - stack those instead because they have same kick emphasis.

all applied
[]

Call me back.

Alexsander wrote:

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on sábado, 17 de março de 2018 at 08:34:52

Artist: ClariS
Title: border -TV MIX-
Source: 憑物語
Tags: ending Tsukimonogatari ononoki yotsugi victorfernando AlexTroIIPsy
BPM: 178
Filesize: 20585kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:

1. ATP's Extra (5,48 stars, 377 notes)
2. Collab Insane (4,41 stars, 305 notes)
3. Easy (1,49 stars, 96 notes)
4. Expert (5,06 stars, 348 notes)
5. Hard (3,54 stars, 249 notes)
6. Normal (2,04 stars, 150 notes)
7. Yotsugi (5,57 stars, 400 notes)

Download: ClariS - border -TV MIX-
Download: ClariS - border -TV MIX- (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
---------------
Collab Insane : victorFernando and I
ATP's Expert : AlexTroIIPsy

Metadata ~ http://www.monogatari-series.com/tsukimonogatari/music/

Unknowklone wrote:

Here is my mod

Easy

► 00:27:401 (1) - 00:43:581 (2) - 00:55:041 (4) - These blankets could be better the blankets are good for me
► 01:00:769 (3,1) - You could try a blanket there, it looks a bit weird not everything needs to be blanket :/

Battle wrote:

[Extra]
It doesn't have the video lol (:c)
00:13:918 (1,2,3) - If you're basing a lot of your stuff on symmetry and copy paste (at least it looks like it from the first few seconds of the map, I suggest doing something similar to below, since it helps keep up visual spacing and neatness (Ok , i'll just copy the print lol)

a

00:15:940 (3) - ctrl + g would be nice to keep up with visuals here as well(00:15:603 (2,3,4) - those 3 are following a lower pitch while this one 00:15:266 (1) - is following a higher , ctrl g on the (3) would break this logic :C)
00:28:075 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - it'd be cool to have some sort of build up for the spacing here since rn it kinda just has equal spacing for each pair of 1,2 jumps (I dont feel like changing anything here tbh :/)
00:30:772 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - similar to above, but a bit different, the intensity in the music here drops quite a bit, having a gradual increase in spacing would reflect the music better here. Also, I kinda feel like the way it is currently uses large spacing pretty suddenly despite the music dying, so it doesn't rly reflect the music well(i lowered the spacing b4 the build up here 00:31:783 (1) - Hope its better now)
00:41:895 (4,1) - honestly I really like the idea of a pause for places in the music like this, but the effect of it is pretty jaded since you tend to stack circles a lot during the kiai, so I would suggest either having movement for things like 00:41:558 (2,3) - instead of stacking or to find a different way to have the pauses visually(i agree with u , i like the pauses but i dont like the stacks that much tbh and i couldnt find a better way to do it so i decided to stack it
I'll leave the stacks there but i'll try to avoid that on future maps)
00:46:277 (1,2) - speaking of which, pauses during the kiai are somewhat used inconsistently, for the second half of this kiai you choose to use the pauses a lot more often than you did in the first half. Consider the way you use the pauses and keep them different from how you normally map things in order to really distinguish them and make them feel special
(That happened cuz the beggining of the kiai has more sounds 00:34:142 (1) - / 00:37:513 (3) - and when there arent many sounds , the vocals appears more times but in parts like this one 00:40:884 (1,2,3,4,1) - there arent many things that i can do and i didnt want to overmap)
Ty for the mod :3

Battle wrote:

[General]
I don't really get why you don't map the intro for Easy - Hard, I guess it's more understandable for easy and normal, but there's not really a reason why you wouldn't map it for the hard imo I did the introduction for hard
Not really liking the spinner at the start of the top diffs but w/e I decided to keep the spinner in the highest diffs

[Normal]
00:47:457 (6,1) - tbh i would expect 6,1 to be stacked given the intensity of the chorus has died down a bit (like how 00:42:738 (2,3) - is stacked because the intensity has dropped in the chorus) ok
01:01:771 (2,3,4) - instance where I'd expect there to be movement here, especially since the the vocals are somewhat prepping to going back to being fairly intense, you'll have to move around some things to actually accommodate for movement here tho I improved movement, fixed
01:06:490 (1,4) - tbh it's not visible for long but this overlap really triggers me, consider readjusting some things so that this doesn't happen lol ok, fixed
01:09:187 (1,2,3) - the sliders angle and shape kinda make it look kinda ugly and out of place given that everything around it is either straight slider or curves, i would suggest just adjusting the slider shape of 1 to not be as widely angled for better visuals here Fixed
01:17:276 (1,2,3) - lowkey bummed that this isn't symmetrical lol fixed

[Hard]
00:38:693 (2) - tbh i'm not really liking this repeat slider since ur kinda just going over the drums that you had clickable in the previous combo (the ones like 00:37:513 (3,4) - ), I'd either suggest having a circle on the red tick followed by the repeat slider, or just a circle and a 1/2 slider if u wanna keep 00:39:199 (3,4) - clickable I added circle + slider, fixed

[Insane]
00:11:727 (3) - 00:13:412 (5) - not really liking the repeat sliders here mainly because you're going over some vocals, which, I assume you're following from the start. It wouldn't be as bad but given that you're kinda giving more priority rhythm-wise to some bg drum beat like 00:12:232 (4) - makes things more awk ok, fixed
00:30:603 (2,3,4,5) - it would have been cool if you built more off this concept during the build up section (00:11:221 - ) before the music increases (00:22:008 - ) so that way you revisit this kind of spacing which would be pretty cool structure-wise but yeah each session was mapped differently i think this is subjective
00:37:850 (4,1,2,3) - rhythm like below would make more sense, you don't have to keep every drum beat clickable, especially when it's just a repeating drum sound Ok

a

00:43:243 (4,1) - the 1/1 slider doesn't really make sense at it's current place, assuming you're doing it to follow the vocals, it'd be better to use the rhythm below, doing so also allows you to have the cool bass sounding parts in the bg clickable the strong vocal is at 00:43:581 - you realize if you turn down the volume

a

00:45:940 (4,1,2) - yeah it's kinda like, you're half doing vocals, half doing the drums, which kinda ends up being a bit awkward since you're missing out on key held vocals (such as the 1/1 that should be on the downbeat for the vocals and guitar) and replacing it with some repeat sliders which, in this case, doesn't work too well with the drums Fixed

other stuff just repeats for the kiais so i'll just keep it at this Ok

[Expert]
00:37:513 (3) - yeah, it kinda doesn't really make sense to just do purely sliders given that the drums that I'm assuming you're following given all the circles are present at both the red and white tick, having it a slider like the rest wouldn't make much sense Fixed
00:39:536 (1) - so like, you kinda start follow the vocals now after you've been following the drums, which is kinda awkward in terms of rhythm consistency, it's good to alternate from vocal rhythms to bg rhythms when it comes to held vocals, but kinda establishing it the other way around doesn't really work
00:44:592 (4) - it'd be cool if this was two circles instead, that way you can really emphasize 00:43:581 (1,2,3) - being with the bass sounding thing while making the vocals very differentiated from those sounds I thought it best to use a 1/4 slider

Overall I'm not really getting why sequences like 00:35:491 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - kinda go on when you end up switching to follow the vocals as the kiais progress, in addition it doesn't make a whole lot of sense since the same sounds that you map with just circles are basically the same as the sounds that you map with just sliders so yea
I changed some things to differentiate the vocal from the instrument
[Extra]
It doesn't have the video lol Fixed

[Top]
00:15:772 (4,5,6) - repetition of 00:15:266 (1,2,3) - doesn't really make sense with the music, especially with the hitsounds really supporting groups of two (or sliders if you want to put 1/2 sliders on the white ticks instead) I don't think it needs to be different because it's the same sound so i wanted to repeat the pattern
00:43:581 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - kinda feels like it's just, well, there lol. Currently, there isn't really like any sort of pattern that it's kinda going along with from the previous combo, and the transition of this to the next combo feels a bit sharp but not really the effect I think you're trying to pull. Consider making the first two white ticks into sliders, and arranging it so that 00:44:423 (6,1) - feels more like a jump to have that sudden transition from the 1/4 slider into the slow slider to really capitalize on the slowness of the vocal, make sure you don't stack 00:44:255 (5,6) - since you're killing a lot of the movement you could be trying to build up to make the movement for 6,1 sharper Ok,

Popping for the video being missing plus some concerns addressed about rhythm consistency in the Extra and Expert diffs

Battle wrote:

01:13:231 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - still don't really understand the block of single taps here on the ATP diff, however all the rest looks better i changed it and now there are few more sliders in this part , Hope its better now 'v'

Ataraxia wrote:

a

atp extra

00:37:513 (1) - wrong nc usageMy bad , didnt notice
01:21:321 (1,2) - pq aqui tem sv alteration e 00:54:367 (1,2) - nao tem ? Ja expliquei isso e geral aceito :C

few things

Hailie wrote:

i'm such a slacker ~ forgot about this when ya pm x.x

working on the mod currently in the meantime....

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EDIT:

Late night modding ~

drum-hitwhistle2.wav
isn't being used so suggest removing it or find a way to use it Removed


Yotsugi

Note: anything refering to hitsounds applies to all difficulties fyi

01:00:435 - mostly me but I think this NC is a bit unnecessary here to add and it wouldn't be no harm of simply removing it Ok
00:22:682 - add a clap here instead of the whistle (or could do both but just clap is prefer) - it sounds more fitting to note in the music like at 00:23:524 -
^ 00:25:378 - same
^ 00:28:075 - kind of the same but not so much
00:24:030 - missing hitsound here (even if intentional it sounds pretty empty for no clap)
00:30:097 - having a finish here would be fitting especially since there is 1 in the actually song
00:31:277 (9,10,1) - I think this would be better to give emphasis towards this if it was consistent to the other triples (00:30:603 (3,4,5) - ) and not have them all stack like it currently is ok, i removed the stack
00:40:378 (4,1) - would look a bit cleaner if you completely have these overlap I made a stack, fixed
01:24:524 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - sounds pretty empty to not have more hitsounds in these areas especially the way you are emphasizing these notes - like add a whistle here 01:24:523 - add a clap at 01:24:692 - and here 01:24:861 (6) - then add a whistle at 01:25:198 -
^ this also has the same deal regarding hitsounds for 01:25:872 (4,5,6,7,8) -
01:25:872 - whistle for this
01:26:209 (6) - 01:26:546 (8) - claps for these
01:24:861 (6) - would be cool to add a clap like ya did at 01:25:029 (7) - since they both are the same sound to emphasis too
01:26:547 (8) - can ya bring this note down some? think it is a bit the aim is a bit awkard currently going to (1) and it would play a bit better if ya do that Ok

ATP's Extra
- 00:44:592 (8) - missing hitsound here that was used in all the other difficulties
^ 01:03:456 (5) - same
^ 01:06:153 (5) - same
^ 01:22:332 (1) -

k that will all for now ~ do advised going back over some hitsounding in the mean time (i'll finish the rest of the mod later on when i'm more awake)

Hailie wrote:

Expert - slightly picky but the ar can be just 9 - 9.1 kind of don't make no difference Ok