1. Hard (3,16 stars, 55 notes)
2. Insane (4,53 stars, 793 notes)

CelVeritas wrote:

Here from the M4M post. First off, nice song choice. Thx

Since Hard is still WiP, I can only mod Insane.

General Things

Your combo usage is very inconsistent. Sometimes your combos are shorter and sometimes longer with no discernable reason behind it. I'd suggest keeping it consistent, if not throughout the song, then at least through similar sections of it.

Aesthetics

00:00:614 (1,2,3,4,5) - You copy-pasted this group of objects 8 times and it's very visible. You should vary both pattern and, to some extent, how you play the rhythm. For instance, both the first two ,and the third and fourth notes could be replaced by a slider each without contradicting the music; that alone gives you four different variations of the rhythm. Put each of them in a row and play around with object placement, and you have a much more interesting entry to your map.
00:15:819 (1,2,4) - These should be lined up properly. fixed
00:16:230 (3,5,6,7) - These look unorganized. You could put 6-7 parallel to 1-2 and lead 3-5 together. done
00:21:983 (5) - Weird looking slider. You should probably refine it.
00:25:271 (5) - ^
00:26:915 (7,2) - Stack these. fixed
00:27:737 (2,4,6) - These overlaps look weird. Spread it out more. done
00:30:614 (2) - Slidershape not used before, sticks out weirdly.
00:32:668 (3,5) - You could bring these together and blanket 3 with 5. done
00:35:134 (5) - Slider.
00:37:189 (1,2,3,4) - These overlaps look unrefined. You should probably spread these out and make the space between them more consistent by offsetting them more. kinda fixed
00:38:422 (1) - A weird slider, this time a different one. Again, you should refine it. Maybe blanket something that comes after it to give it grip within the following pattern.
00:41:093 (4,7) - Weird overlap. fixed
00:42:942 (4,6,3) - You should blanket using both of these. And blanket that with 00:44:175 (3,5) - done both
00:46:230 (1,3) - Fix overlap + blanket. fixed
00:47:874 (1,3) - Overlap. fixed
00:48:490 (4,1) - Blanket?
00:49:107 (1,3) - Stack or space. done
01:02:873 (4,5) - Fix blanket. fixed
01:07:600 (3,2) - Stack or space (maybe blanket with 01:08:833 (3) - ) done
01:10:682 (3,4) - Overlap. fixed
01:11:504 (1,5) - ^ fixed
01:12:942 (8) - You can clean this slider up like this: done

01:14:175 (3,2) - Blanket? done
01:30:819 (1) - You could make the curves in this look better and possibly blanket something afterwards.
01:40:888 (3,5) - Fix blanket. fixed
01:50:134 (6) - Move this in line with the rest of the pattern.
01:51:161 (3,5,6) - Line these up. done
01:54:038 (1,2,4) - ^ done
01:55:066 (6,1,3) - ^ done
02:06:983 (4,1) - Blanket.
02:13:353 (3) - Move in line with the rest of the pattern.
02:13:970 (2,4) - Blanket. done
02:17:052 (1,4) - ^ Also apparently you know how to do the slider. Do I look condescending for explaining that earlier now? :/ nah im just dumb af, fixed
02:25:682 (1) - Blanket. fixed
02:47:257 (6) - Move into the pattern.
02:47:052 (5,1) - Blanket.
03:07:189 (5,1) - ^ done
03:08:833 (3,4) - Overlap. fixed
03:11:298 (1,2,4) - Line up. done
03:12:326 (6) - Slider looks weird.

Map~Music

I know your map focuses mostly on emphasizing the vocals, but you seem to completely ignore the drums in your design. Spacing emphasis is almost non-existent, and doesn't seem to be replaced with any other sort of emphasis, aside from occasional patterning on vocals, which, as I'll show, isn't even consistent. I'll point out where you could've used spacing to better emphasize songs, as well as where you neglected consistency in your patterning.

Keep in mind, that this is only my opinion on which sections of your mapping I disagree with. You probably have reasons for at least some of the decisions that lead to this. If you can explain them, then by all means, ignore said complaints.

00:14:997 (3) - There's a snare here and it's the least spaced note in the pattern. You see what I mean?
00:16:641 (5) - ^
00:18:285 (1) - This one sort of works, because you staggered the flow on it, making it a bit more emphasized. If that's a scheme you want to work with, try to employ it more noticably.
00:19:107 (1,5) - Clap and snare, both emphasized the same as each other.
00:20:751 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - There is no sound in the song that implies 1/4s. And it contradicts the pattern you use for the same phrase later on. This is overmapped.
00:23:627 (5) - Clap.
00:24:038 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - No reason for the stream here either.
00:33:490 (6,7) - You didn't use this kind of stack anywhere else in the map and there doesn't seem to be anything special to justify it here.
00:34:004 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - ^ Also the spacing at the beginning of the stream is confusing, as it implies a seperate group of sounds, while the first "baby" starts on the slider tail.
00:37:189 (1,2,3,4) - Here's the contradiction I talked about. Completely different way of emphasizing the same rhythm.
00:41:298 (5) - Snare.
00:44:586 (4) - ^
00:47:874 (1) - ^
00:49:518 (2) - ^
00:51:161 (4) - ^
00:52:189 (1) - There is no sound on the head of this returnslider.
00:53:216 (7,9) - You're following the snares here, but undermapping additional sounds that very clearly belong to what you emphasize. Replacing 7+8 and 9+10 with 1/8 returnsliders would fix this.
00:54:038 (2,5) - These two sliders seem to want to represent the same sound, but they don't. The first one has two claps, the second one only one. Plus, representing two relatively strong, and equally strong sounds with a slider head and -tail doesn't seem right. The placement you have could be used to fix this issue very easily. Have the singles you placed in the middle go first on the two claps, lead into the right slider second and the left slider third, which would then be emphasized through spacing.
00:55:682 (2,5) - Same as before, although here fixing it in the same way would break your flow significantly. You can figure something out though.
00:57:326 (3,4,7) - Here you could spread the middle of the pattern apart to create both visual- and spacing emphasis. You could form it into a hexagon to keep the visual intact.
00:58:559 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Neat pattern. (Even though you ignored the same sounds much earlier in the map >.>)
01:00:613 (2,5) - Same lack of emphasis as before.
01:02:257 (2,5) - ^
01:03:901 (3,4,7) - ^
Gonna stop pointing out snares now, as I think you get my point and can find the rest yourself, should you agree with my reasoning.
01:07:189 (1,2) - I know this sounds nitpicky, but I kind of expected the pattern you used for these sounds to continue into this section. Honestly, mapping the 1/4 slidiers here wouldn't change flow at all, but would add reference to the song.
01:11:504 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Here it's the full phrase, but your idea still didn't reappear.
01:18:490 (3) - No sound in the song on slider head.
01:26:504 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - Overmapped stream.
01:31:435 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - I don't hear anything in the song that would justify these triples.
01:44:792 (1) - No sound on slider head.
01:45:819 (7,8,9,10) - Same thing as earlier with the undermapped snares.
01:57:942 (1,7,8,9,10) - ^ ^
02:12:120 (3) - I know here you emphasized the saxophone in the background (to be honest, I don't completely understand why. It's a minor gimmick, but I can take it as explanation), but I still would've mapped the snare 1/8s.
02:38:422 (1,2) - You have not introduced this pattern to represent these sounds and it doesn't appear anymore either. Explanation could be intensity, but previously you haven't used 1/4 sliders for that purpose, so I'm honestly not sure.
02:43:764 (1,2,3) - This is your most spaced pattern (quickly followed by your least spaced one - uncomfortable) without this being the most intense section of the song. You should probably scale it down. It would still be recognizable to fit the sound, even with less spacing.
02:50:545 (1,7,8,9,10) - No sound on the slider head again, followed by the undermapped 1/8s.
03:17:874 (7,8,9,10) - ^

I really like some of the patterns you made in relation to the vocals. I think this map could turn out really nicely. Would love to see it ranked at some point

THANK YOU

Ayato_k wrote:

Hi from my mod queue o/

[Insane]

Ok so i think the major problem here is what you are following.
Stuff like that make me think that you are always mapping vocals : 01:00:408 (1,2,3,4,5) - so even all the intro : 00:10:477 (1,2,3,4,5) -

But in those parts :
1) from 00:14:175 (1) - to 00:20:134 (6) -
2) from 00:27:326 (1) - to 00:33:490 (6) -
3) from 01:03:490 (1) - to 01:04:928 (8) -
4) from 01:59:792 (1) - to 02:05:956 (1) -
5) from 02:15:408 (1) - to 02:16:230 (5) -
6) from 02:42:120 (1) - to 02:43:353 (6) - (less relevant here, but a bit incoherent)
7) 02:55:271 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - (same ^)
It's hard to tell, or it's obvious that you are following vocals, but there are some mistakes in the object choice for a given sound. i'm mostly emphasizing vocals, and giving extra emphasis when there is a strong bg sound. i dont follow vocals only when i think the rhythm would be better following other sounds

Parts like this :
1) 00:45:408 (1) - 00:51:983 (7) -
or even
2) 01:19:518 (3) - 01:26:093 (2) -
clearly shows that you know well how to follow the song , so it'll not be that hard for you to fix the tiny issue in the previous pa
rts

A thing that was strange to me :
1) 00:24:038 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) -
For two reasons :
-I think using a stream here isn't really justified. small sliders like you did here : 03:03:490 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - would fit better imo yeah, this stream is wrong at all meanings, i'm working on that
-The shape of the slider at the end isn't really beautiful and can lead to confusion actually a slider with red anchors is perfect here imo, i just dont know yet how to do it properly
although this usage of a stream is ok :
01:19:518 (3,4,5,6) -
or even
03:17:463 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) -


Overall your map has potential and intresting patterns, it was fun to play ! Thx
Keep up the good work !

Thx for the mod, rn i'm remapping Insane so i'll keep in mind everything you said

1. 01:48:490 (6) - move to >> 01:48:696 -
2. 01:50:134 (6) - move to >> 01:50:340 -
3. 01:51:778 (6) - move to >> 01:51:983 -
   and etc

Good luck~!

Franklin_DeJavu wrote:

Hi~! ^^

From Team Frontline Modding Queue

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Little modding :
[Insane]
00:01:846 - ; 00:03:490 - ; 00:05:134 - ; 00:06:778 - ; 00:08:422 - ; 00:10:066 - ; 00:11:709 - have sound at here. Put circle at here i'm emphasizing just vocals here, dont think its necessary

01:31:435 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - remove triplet. I think just place circle at bass sound music this filler rhythm is fine imo to emphasize kiai build up more
01:47:052 - strong beat. move 01:46:846 (3) - head slider to that yea my bad, changed that to a reverse instead since i'm following vocals here
and some slider with same problem^ please move it too

example =

1. 01:48:490 (6) - move to >> 01:48:696 -
2. 01:50:134 (6) - move to >> 01:50:340 -
3. 01:51:778 (6) - move to >> 01:51:983 -
   and etc

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Good luck~!

Thx for the mod