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R3 Music Box - Sugar Song to Bitter Step [Taiko]

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Setup: I don't see reason for last timing point, could you please explain or, if it's a mistake, delete it
I guess you should ask BN or QAT about double hitsounds on mania diffs, I had some cases with it and BNs told me it's better to not use double hitsounds (sorry if it was discussed before).

1-9 / S+1-8 columns

Muu's Hard

I think OD HP 7,8 is too high for 1,86* , there are some LNs that players will lost accuracy on

00:16:527 (16527|3,16688|3,16850|2) - last note can be shifted to left hand to make pattern more comfortable, I guess previous points can be changed too (00:04:269 (4269|2,4430|2,4592|3) - 00:14:592 (14592|0,14753|0,14914|1) ) but you can keep them as for pitch relevance. Exactly this one ( 00:16:850 - ) can be shifted because it's not really pitch related

00:25:882 (25882|2,26043|2,26205|2,26366|2,26527|2) - would be better if you do not so sudden thing, whole map is pretty calm and you are placing five 1/4 notes on one column, I guess many players will miss here and rage :p
you can use something like this https://puu.sh/yEKsJ/02c481e29e.png , it will be representing the music as well and not so uncomfortable

about this pattern 00:28:463 - pitch here is gradually increasing and I can see your pattern is going to emphasize it but last LN is breaking the PR 00:30:721 (30721|0) . First 3 LNs are going to right side (represents PR) and last one is on the first column, what looks like pitch suddenly fell down (I'm saying about https://puu.sh/yEKBv/f3d20857b8.png)
My suggestion is to make 1/2 LNs go 1>2>3>4. Like this: https://puu.sh/yEKG4/7718b67e02.png

00:32:334 (32334|2,32495|1,32656|0,32817|1,32979|2) - stair-shaped pattern is not really suitable for it, better keep using pattern like this 00:42:656


Eraser's Normal

00:04:269 (4269|3,4430|3,4914|3,5237|2) - inaccuratly PR, 00:05:237 (5237|2) - is higher pitch than 00:04:269 (4269|3,4430|3,4914|3) , https://puu.sh/yEKQh/71f9107342.png would be much more suitable

00:06:850 (6850|2,7172|1) - CTRL+H, pitch is going up here. Also it makes that more balanced

00:08:140 (8140|0,8785|0,9592|1) - maybe swap columns, last one seems to be lower pitch than first two

00:10:398 - pitch is going up here and you can make it a linear stair, why'd you make it broken pattern?

I don't want to mention out many about PR, it looks like you are trying to make it PRed but it's awfully broken in many places, you randomly swap high/low pitch sides and it looks not PRed properly. Sure if you will be following PR 100% accurately, it will be repetitive and boring, my suggestion is to consistenly mirror pitch side (maybe every 1/1 tick or less often).


Easy

This difficulty is poor in terms of snap variety
00:04:269 (4269|3) - gives you feeling of incompletness, because music pattern is not still finished, try to move it to 00:04:430 , it will represent music

00:09:753 (9753|0) - you are following the main sound (idk how to call it), not the background sound, move it to 00:09:592 , it will be more consistent

00:17:495 (17495|2,18463|2,19269|2) - you are overwhelming it

00:31:043 - oh really it's just copy of first half... it looks boring, I'd recommend you to rearrange this kiai because it's literally copying. You might want to add some new extra notes that weren't mapped in first half.

^don't forget to apply that for the second half of map as well

Poii
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Poii

eyes wrote:



Setup: I don't see reason for last timing point, could you please explain or, if it's a mistake, delete it its not a mistake, i just copying it from taiko diff, but yeh del it
I guess you should ask BN or QAT about double hitsounds on mania diffs, I had some cases with it and BNs told me it's better to not use double hitsounds (sorry if it was discussed before). double HS ?

Easy

This difficulty is poor in terms of snap variety
00:04:269 (4269|3) - gives you feeling of incompletness, because music pattern is not still finished, try to move it to 00:04:430 , it will represent music

00:09:753 (9753|0) - you are following the main sound (idk how to call it), not the background sound, move it to 00:09:592 , it will be more consistent

00:17:495 (17495|2,18463|2,19269|2) - you are overwhelming it

00:31:043 - oh really it's just copy of first half... it looks boring, I'd recommend you to rearrange this kiai because it's literally copying. You might want to add some new extra notes that weren't mapped in first half.

^don't forget to apply that for the second half of map as well

All fixed ty eyes
Caput Mortuum
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Caput Mortuum

eyes wrote:

Eraser's Normal

00:04:269 (4269|3,4430|3,4914|3,5237|2) - inaccuratly PR, 00:05:237 (5237|2) - is higher pitch than 00:04:269 (4269|3,4430|3,4914|3) , https://puu.sh/yEKQh/71f9107342.png would be much more suitable
00:06:850 (6850|2,7172|1) - CTRL+H, pitch is going up here. Also it makes that more balanced
original was 4321 1234 then I changed it to 1321 4234 and I got bad feedback from various sources regarding "plagiarism". I'll think of another pattern then

00:08:140 (8140|0,8785|0,9592|1) - maybe swap columns, last one seems to be lower pitch than first two

00:10:398 - pitch is going up here and you can make it a linear stair, why'd you make it broken pattern?

I don't want to mention out many about PR, it looks like you are trying to make it PRed but it's awfully broken in many places, you randomly swap high/low pitch sides and it looks not PRed properly. Sure if you will be following PR 100% accurately, it will be repetitive and boring, my suggestion is to consistenly mirror pitch side (maybe every 1/1 tick or less often).
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Poii
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Poii

Ortlinde wrote:

whoa.
it's beautiful.
So, because it's kind of music box song, i'll mainly focused on pitch relevancy here
Feel free to reject this. it's already good i think.
[1|2|3|4]

Easy
  1. 00:06:527 (6527|3) - i suggest move this into column 2 so they don't jack with 00:06:527 (6527|3) - im not sure about that, since it fit with the flow, demn i dunno how to call it
  2. 00:17:495 (17495|2) - the keysound is a bit off here. Change into F5 instead
  3. 00:18:463 (18463|2) - maybe move this into column 2 to avoid layering?
  4. 00:48:463 (48463|1) - F5 too fixed all


i'd like to see this on ranked
good luck
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Muu-chan
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eyes wrote:



Setup: I don't see reason for last timing point, could you please explain or, if it's a mistake, delete it
I guess you should ask BN or QAT about double hitsounds on mania diffs, I had some cases with it and BNs told me it's better to not use double hitsounds (sorry if it was discussed before).

1-9 / S+1-8 columns

Muu's Hard

I think OD HP 7,8 is too high for 1,86* , there are some LNs that players will lost accuracy on Decreased to 7.5

00:16:527 (16527|3,16688|3,16850|2) - last note can be shifted to left hand to make pattern more comfortable, I guess previous points can be changed too (00:04:269 (4269|2,4430|2,4592|3) - 00:14:592 (14592|0,14753|0,14914|1) ) but you can keep them as for pitch relevance. Exactly this one ( 00:16:850 - ) can be shifted because it's not really pitch related i would love to keep them. Beside the pitch, i also considering the.. what is it called.. "Hand filled (?)" and try to put notes on blank space to fill it.

00:25:882 (25882|2,26043|2,26205|2,26366|2,26527|2) - would be better if you do not so sudden thing, whole map is pretty calm and you are placing five 1/4 notes on one column, I guess many players will miss here and rage :p
you can use something like this https://puu.sh/yEKsJ/02c481e29e.png , it will be representing the music as well and not so uncomfortable I would keep this too, so they could learn how to pass this lol. In case they play piano, they will remember this :D

about this pattern 00:28:463 - pitch here is gradually increasing and I can see your pattern is going to emphasize it but last LN is breaking the PR 00:30:721 (30721|0) . First 3 LNs are going to right side (represents PR) and last one is on the first column, what looks like pitch suddenly fell down (I'm saying about https://puu.sh/yEKBv/f3d20857b8.png)
My suggestion is to make 1/2 LNs go 1>2>3>4. Like this: https://puu.sh/yEKG4/7718b67e02.png Yes i think so, i replaced it :) thank you

00:32:334 (32334|2,32495|1,32656|0,32817|1,32979|2) - stair-shaped pattern is not really suitable for it, better keep using pattern like this 00:42:656 Yeea xd replaced~
Sorry was on final exam, Update here http://puu.sh/yKLsj/2f0b019c6e.rar
Poii
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updated, btw are you guys forgot that we have mod from ortlinde ? xD
Caput Mortuum
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oki doki

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Poii
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Topic Starter
Poii
updated
Envory
Envory
Ok from Nekopoi Poii req to re-mod



|1|2|3|4|



Easy
00:31:043 (31043|0,31366|1,31688|2,32011|3,32334|2,33301|1) - buat ini jangan stair deh kalo part kiai... > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10014390 (should be better)
00:48:946 - tambahin 1 note biar konsistem seperti sebelumnya (rekomen bgt)
00:59:766 (59766|1,60096|3) - jadiin ln aja itu suara hold


Penghapus's susah
00:01:366 - bikin kyk https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10014432
00:05:237 (5237|0) - ini tambah 1 lagi ga masalah deh
00:10:398 (10398|2) - ini juga ^
00:15:559 (15559|0) - sama ^
00:31:043 (31043|3) - ini buat opening kiai koq 1?? kasi 2 biar enaq
00:32:495 (32495|2,32817|2) - sepi amat kiainya bang? kyk diatas la
00:36:205 (36205|2) - ini juga tambah 1


Muu's Hard
00:01:850 (1850|2) - ini pindah ke kolom 4 aja biar spread lah
00:17:979 (17979|3) - kick keras gini cuma 1? jadiin 2 aja pls


Ok itu aja thx
gudlak for ranked~
Poii
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Topic Starter
Poii
thanks envory

and sorry, i decided to remove mania diff bcs muu wont reply the mod and i already have some conversation with eraser about his diff, he said okay about removing his diff from this set

thanks guys for your effort
Caput Mortuum
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Caput Mortuum
Sorry for the unnecessary drama, guys. Looking back to it, I was just overdramatizing things. I hope all parties involved are willing to forgive me. And to Poii, good luck with your current mapset.

also if u pity me pls rank my deconstruction star
Jonarwhal
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Jonarwhal
owo
Aurele
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Aurele
owo

brb in 24 hours
Poii
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Poii
Thanks Jonas and You Gabe :3c
Joe Castle
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Joe Castle
I can wait to see this qualified owo
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rebubbled!

irc
22:38 Poii: gabe
22:38 Gabe: hi!!
22:38 Gabe: yes
22:38 Gabe: let's do this
22:38 Poii: :3c
22:42 Poii: do i have to buff kantan ?
22:45 Gabe: kinda need your opinion on that one
22:45 Gabe: I personally think it needs some more notes
22:45 Gabe: 00:02:979 - 00:03:301 - I've added two dons here
22:45 Gabe: do you think it would fit?
22:46 Poii: thats not hard for kantan, i think they are fit
22:46 Poii: i'll tell the GDr
22:47 Gabe: okay
22:48 Gabe: that means, it would need dons on 00:13:301 - and 00:13:624 - too
22:48 Poii: yeah sure
22:49 Gabe: what about adding a don to 00:23:140 (24) - as well?
22:49 Gabe: It makes a clear distinction from two parts
22:51 Poii: are you in hurry ? gimme 10 min, im on the way to home
22:51 Gabe: oh
22:51 Gabe: no worries
22:52 Poii: ok brb :3c
23:07 Poii: imback
23:13 Poii: just kantan or you find another problems ?
23:19 Gabe: im just checking something quick
23:20 Poii: i added somenotes in kantan, and it looks better for me
23:34 *Gabe is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1388309 R3 Music Box - Sugar Song to Bitter Step [Oni]]
23:34 Gabe: 00:25:881 (46) - 
23:34 Gabe: https://gabe.s-ul.eu/AA1PIZCd
23:34 Gabe: what about this?
23:35 Gabe: or if you want to keep it easier; https://gabe.s-ul.eu/xt9K4BTP
23:36 Poii: 00:26:205 - add smth there, make it easier but hard enough
23:37 Gabe: looks ok
23:37 *Poii is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1476864 R3 Music Box - Sugar Song to Bitter Step [Dapu's Kantan]]
23:37 Poii: i added 00:03:301 -
23:38 Gabe: great
23:38 Poii: every that sound
23:38 Poii: should i add it too in kai ?
23:39 Gabe: 00:03:301 - make it a don
23:39 Poii: yeah its done
23:40 Poii: don
23:40 Poii: muzu ?
23:41 Gabe: its good
23:42 Gabe: u can update
23:44 Poii: updated
23:47 Poii: should i add unicode title as well ?
23:47 Gabe: uh oh, yes
23:48 Gabe: 00:59:437 (29) -  this note should be on 00:59:272 - 
23:49 Poii: ok moved
23:50 Poii: can i update it now ?
23:50 *Gabe is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1388309 R3 Music Box - Sugar Song to Bitter Step [Oni]]
23:50 Gabe: 00:26:527 - change for a kat
23:51 Poii: it have simillar sound like the 47
23:52 Gabe: the issue is that 00:26:526 (48,49) - have different sounds
23:52 Gabe: and they have the same note
23:52 Gabe: implying they are the same sound, right%?
23:53 Poii: 00:26:526 (48,49,50,51) - change to dk kd
23:54 Gabe: perfect!
23:54 Gabe: (y)
23:55 Poii: :3c
23:56 Poii: http://prntscr.com/im61uk i dunno, but i added the unicode
23:57 Gabe: where does it come from
23:57 Poii: kwan
23:58 Poii: the other r3 map have the unicode tittle
23:59 Gabe: oh okayy
23:59 Poii: and this cover song https://osu.ppy.sh/s/606276 too
00:00 Poii: can i update it ?
00:00 Gabe: yup
00:02 Poii: done
Jonarwhal
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Jonarwhal
qual'd
Poii
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much love
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congrats!
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tadaa
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