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Serizawa Haruki

Botan wrote:

Jack's Normal

00:33:503 (2,3) - I personally wouldn't give up the structure you've established in your map just to faithfully map one part to the vocals. Put the circle on the white tick. Nothing wrong with where it's placed now, I just think consistent patterning is more important than faithfully representing each vocal.
Not much else to say either, nice map.
Thanks! You're right, I fixed it
Serizawa Haruki

Shortthu wrote:

J a c k
  1. i'd use OD 3 and CS around 3.5, CS gap between normal and hard is kinda big OD 4 is used on most normal maps and the fact that there's a CS gap is not really my fault since i didn't map hard, CS 3 is fine
  2. same SV with easy? i'd bump it to 1.3 or something Why tho? Most people use DT anyways and I'm not gonna remap everything
  3. how about making 00:11:174 (1) - as a spinner and remove 00:12:878 (2,3,4) - ? the 00:11:174 (1) - following music, the 00:12:878 (2,3,4) - following vocal and back to music at 00:13:901 (1) - is kinda strange.
    o and other diffs doesn't mapped the 00:12:537 - to 00:13:901 - part (except last diff) Good idea, fixed it
  4. 00:56:174 (3) - convert this to a circle, would fit better in this section have no (or calm, or something) background music Fixed
  5. 01:12:196 (4,5) - 404 blanket not found Fixed
  6. 01:13:901 (1,2,3,4) - :thinking: What's wrong with it?
  7. 01:16:628 (1,2,3,4) - :tHinKIng: ^
  8. 01:15:265 (5,6) - 01:17:992 (5,6,7) - the rhythm is similar-ish why you change it Fixed
  9. look kinda okay-ish, but you need to care more about aesthetics xd some blanket are off, some flow are... idk what to say lol
Serizawa Haruki

-Faded- wrote:

[Jack's Normal]
  1. This difficulty doesn't have any hitsounds. The ranking criteria says that:

    Ranking Criteria wrote:

    You must use hitsounds. Without these, things get way too monotonous as you are throwing away one of the main elements of variation present in mapping. You don't need to place them on every note (and are discouraged from doing so), but they must at least be frequently heard when playing.
    Added hitsounds
  2. Where are the custom combo colours? This is done in every other difficulty except for Mcen's Hard, so I would add some to be consistent. It also enforces a good theme to your map, making it less boring. Added this too
  3. 00:11:174 (1,1) - I wouldn't do this. Firstly, this is a normal so players still need adequate recovery time. Having to hit another note just 1 beat after the spinner is just too much to expect of them. Secondly, the note appears right in the middle of the screen before the player is even half way through the spinner, which can be very disorientating to them, especially if you consider the approach circles of the spinner and the hit circle. Fixed
  4. 00:46:287 (5,3) - Hm, you could stack these so that the structure and overall presentation is nicer. Yup
  5. 01:12:196 (4,5) - This blanket is off by a large margin and it can be noticed easily during gameplay. I would heighten the first curve on (5) so that it's parallel to the parameter of (4) Fixed
Kirylln
@J a c k: hi, just a little advice but you should put all of your mod reply into 1 post, to avoid flooding the thread and stuff
ts8zs
From queue.ts8zs.com
[Story of the end]
00:12:111 (6,7) - move to 00:12:196 - this should be a mistake
00:45:946 (3) - this distance to 2 and 4 is too short,how about 218,101
00:57:452 (6) - overmap?
00:59:327 (6) - ^
01:21:997 (7) - ^
01:09:810 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - avoid edge touching?
01:17:992 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why suddenly bells here
[Kiry]
00:13:901 (1,2,3,4,5) - how about lager distance every pattern https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9027815
00:25:151 (2) - 256,192?
00:28:049 (2) - 256,128?
00:38:276 (4) - remove?
01:03:503 - add a note here
00:57:537 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - good pattern but not fit the whole diff's avarage difficulty.
[Insane]
00:07:083 (3) - nc
00:08:446 (1,2) - swap nc
00:13:560 (2,1) - swap nc and simmilar parts?
00:16:628 (1,2) - swap nc?
00:59:327 (3) - overmap?
01:18:674 (3) - remove a reverse
Topic Starter
Stormiverse

ts8zs wrote:

From queue.ts8zs.com
[Story of the end]
00:12:111 (6,7) - move to 00:12:196 - this should be a mistake Oops
00:45:946 (3) - this distance to 2 and 4 is too short,how about 218,101 ctrl + G'ed
00:57:452 (6) - overmap? I want to emphasize that last note
00:59:327 (6) - ^ emphasize vocal
01:21:997 (7) - ^ deleted
01:09:810 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - avoid edge touching? will fix if seems like a big problem
01:17:992 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why suddenly bells here idk, ask hitsounder :/
[Insane]
00:07:083 (3) - nc
00:08:446 (1,2) - swap nc
00:13:560 (2,1) - swap nc and simmilar parts?
00:16:628 (1,2) - swap nc?
NC on white tick only :/
00:59:327 (3) - overmap? to emphasize vocal
01:18:674 (3) - remove a reverse why? i want to change flow direction here
Kirylln

ts8zs wrote:

From queue.ts8zs.com
[Kiry]
00:13:901 (1,2,3,4,5) - how about lager distance every pattern https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9027815 the music doesn't rlly suggesting that for me
00:25:151 (2) - 256,192? cool
00:28:049 (2) - 256,128? sth similar
00:38:276 (4) - remove? drum is still there tho
01:03:503 - add a note here i'd prefer not to since there's nothing there
00:57:537 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - good pattern but not fit the whole diff's avarage difficulty. its not that hard rlly, just a normal zigzag pattern with some added speed 'cause of kick sliders, also sth quite similar was introduced earlier in the map so it shouldn't throw the players off-guard
thx!
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PyroBear
AI mod says something about filesize and I don't think this mapset has a storyboard so idk might want to check it out. Probably because of the BGs so might want to compress them

[Easy]
  1. Left side is neglected
  2. 00:07:083 (2) - NC
  3. 01:22:083 (1) - Remove NC
  4. 01:22:765 (2) - NC
  5. 01:27:367 (1) - Slider feels too short

[Normal]
  1. RIP corners
  2. 00:15:435 (4,5) - Feels too hard on a normal
  3. Slider touching the healthbar, please move it
  4. idk how to feel about the buildup before kiai to be the hardest part
  5. url=https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9033754] Barely touching the healthbar but you should lower it a bit[/url]

[Hard]
  1. 00:00:265 (1,1) - I feel like these could be mapped
  2. Might want to space 01:04:270 (5,1,2,3) - these differently

[Insane]
  1. Hmmm
  2. 00:05:719 (1) - Sliderend is almost unhearable, might want to up the volume a bit
  3. 00:26:174 (1,2) - Weird flow
  4. 00:38:958 (2) - Straight slider here but curved here 00:40:321 (2)?
  5. 01:25:662 (6,7,8) - Same as first point

[The other insane]
  1. 00:52:083 (8,1) - Weird fow

[Last dif]
  1. About your corners...
  2. 00:00:094 (1) - Is placing a beat before the red line even allowed?
  3. 00:01:628 (1) - Why NC
  4. 00:02:821 (4) - Should be NC-ed here instead of here 00:02:992 (1)

Can't really say much for the 2 highest diffs since I can't play them

Edit: oh yeah my map https://osu.ppy.sh/s/540180
Topic Starter
Stormiverse

PyroBear wrote:

AI mod says something about filesize and I don't think this mapset has a storyboard so idk might want to check it out. Probably because of the BGs so might want to compress them It's because of the hitsounds, I'll talk to them.

[Easy]
  1. Left side is neglectedI wouldn't really say that it's neglected because there're a lot of sliders on that left side which ctrl + A doesn't show
  2. 00:07:083 (2) - NC Why? NC-ing it here would make this combo 00:05:719 (1) - too short :/
  3. 01:22:083 (1) - Remove NC right
  4. 01:22:765 (2) - NC yep
  5. 01:27:367 (1) - Slider feels too short That's a spinner, and it's 4 beats long, fits perfectly with the RC

[Insane]
  1. Hmmm :hmm: you know that ctrl + A doesn't judge how good a map, right?
  2. 00:05:719 (1) - Sliderend is almost unhearable, might want to up the volume a bit that's the point
  3. 00:26:174 (1,2) - Weird flow oops, inconsistency
  4. 00:38:958 (2) - Straight slider here but curved here 00:40:321 (2) ? i have no excuse
  5. 01:25:662 (6,7,8) - Same as first point :hmm:, fixed

[Last dif]
  1. About your corners...I don't like corners, they're 'hard to reach'!(Bad puns are not allowed on this forum)
  2. 00:00:094 (1) - Is placing a beat before the red line even allowed? Yes, yes it does.
  3. 00:01:628 (1) - Why NC because of the big white tick
  4. 00:02:821 (4) - Should be NC-ed here instead of here 00:02:992 (1) again, big white tick

Can't really say much for the 2 highest diffs since I can't play them
play more then ;)

Edit: oh yeah my map https://osu.ppy.sh/s/540180
mod coming soon :D
Kirylln
@PyroBear did sth to the flow
Serizawa Haruki

PyroBear wrote:

[Normal]
  1. RIP corners How is this relevant lol
  2. 00:15:435 (4,5) - Feels too hard on a normal Not really, you can find things like this in many normals
  3. Slider touching the healthbar, please move it Okay
  4. idk how to feel about the buildup before kiai to be the hardest part Imo the buildup should be one of the hardest parts
  5. url=https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9033754] Barely touching the healthbar but you should lower it a bit[/url] Fixed
Ali-
from my mod q, feel free to deny

[story of the end]
00:02:992 (1,3) - i think itd be better if these two sliders were equal spacing from 00:03:333 (2) -, it has more symmetry that way.
00:04:185 (4) - i think this would flow and look better if it were placed at 357,329
00:06:230 (2,1,1,2) - try to avoid overlapping these with the slider track. it doesnt look very neat
00:10:321 (4,6) - if you were to ctrl+j on the both of these sliders it would feel a lot more natural to play. i think it more highly represents the music
00:12:196 (6,2) - this overlap is messy, they're close enough in play to be noticable
00:13:390 (3) - consider blanketing this for more support in your current structure
00:17:140 - this section, while purposeful and stuff, is very close-knit and doesnt look very appealing
00:31:458 (5) - i think a triple here would better represent the music, but i understand remapping sounds a bit daunting
00:33:674 (3,4,5) - odd flow, kinda sticks out since there hasnt been any anti-flow thus far
00:37:594 (4,6) - again, not a big fan of how your circles sometimes overlap with the sliders
00:44:924 (5,3) - could you stack the slider heads instead? looks rather weird if you only overlap the slider ends
00:49:355 (1,2,4) - a few pxiel overlap, but still very noticable
00:52:083 (5,2) - no overlap here?
01:00:265 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - very disorientating hitsounds, but i think that can be neglected since it reflects the music
01:26:174 (1,2) - nice heart

----
messy map, you should pay more attention to your placement and flow. usually flow only changes with very emphasized sounds, but you use that very liberally. make sure you have hit animations disabled!!

good luck with rank
Topic Starter
Stormiverse

Ali- wrote:

from my mod q, feel free to deny

[story of the end]
00:02:992 (1,3) - i think itd be better if these two sliders were equal spacing from 00:03:333 (2) -, it has more symmetry that way. They are.
00:04:185 (4) - i think this would flow and look better if it were placed at 357,329 Snapped to pattern. Also drastic change in spacing emphasize more.
00:06:230 (2,1,1,2) - try to avoid overlapping these with the slider track. it doesnt look very neat The first two, they're not overlapped, enable Hit Animation. And the last two, stacked on purpose.
00:10:321 (4,6) - if you were to ctrl+j on the both of these sliders it would feel a lot more natural to play. i think it more highly represents the music 1/4 gap here 00:09:810 (3,4) - , ctrl + J would make this a 1/4 jump, which looks similar to 1/2 sand I don't want that.
00:12:196 (6,2) - this overlap is messy, they're close enough in play to be noticable Not really a problem since players are focusing on the jumps, making the overlap unnoticeable.
00:13:390 (3) - consider blanketing this for more support in your current structure Misplaced somehow.
00:17:140 - this section, while purposeful and stuff, is very close-knit and doesnt look very appealing That's the point, this is one of the calmer senction of the song, so I reduced the spacing.
00:31:458 (5) - i think a triple here would better represent the music, but i understand remapping sounds a bit daunting Same sound as 00:30:094 (5,1) - . Also triplets here would be overmapping.
00:33:674 (3,4,5) - odd flow, kinda sticks out since there hasnt been any anti-flow thus far Yes there has: 00:28:219 (3,4,5) -
00:37:594 (4,6) - again, not a big fan of how your circles sometimes overlap with the sliders Ok, broke the pattern while fixing tho.
00:44:924 (5,3) - could you stack the slider heads instead? looks rather weird if you only overlap the slider ends Sure, why not?
00:49:355 (1,2,4) - a few pxiel overlap, but still very noticable 00:49:867 (2,3,4) - These three make up a triangle :/
00:52:083 (5,2) - no overlap here? No.
01:00:265 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - very disorientating hitsounds, but i think that can be neglected since it reflects the music What do you mean disorientating? Finish/Whistle on every 1/4 Slider's head is very straightforward.
01:26:174 (1,2) - nice heart <3

----
messy map, you should pay more attention to your placement and flow. usually flow only changes with very emphasized sounds, but you use that very liberally. make sure you have hit animations disabled!!
It's my style.
good luck with rank
Xiaolin
Sorry for the delay aaaa

Easy

  1. 00:14:924 (1) - Why NC? Don't you NC 4 downbeats here?
  2. 01:24:128 (3,4) - Minor, but the overlap between (3)'s body and (4)'s end ruins the visuals since it feels random, try avoiding it for better aesthetics.


J a c k's Normal

  1. 00:20:719 (3,1) - Overlap here looks messy, don't you think?
  2. 00:43:219 (4,2) - How about making these two parallel? It would turn out better IMO.
  3. 01:01:628 (5) - I'd leave this as a circle, since 01:00:265 (1,3,6) - emphasise vocals. Meanwhile (5) doesn't have any vocals, so it'd make more sense if it was just a circle.


Mcen314's Hard

  1. 00:05:719 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - Why are these so close to each other? There're quite strong drum and finish sounds, and also 00:09:128 (1,2,3) - these are in the same section of the song, yet they have different spacing from the first timeline I mentioned.
  2. 00:16:628 (1,2) - Shouldn't these two have a close distance like the rest of the section does? Also (2)'s sound is pretty weak, so a smaller distance would make more sense.


Insane

  1. 00:06:401 (2,3) - Forgot to unsilence these? (2) and (3) have pretty audiable instuments, and especially (3), it has a strong finish sound, so it really doesn't make sense why it's silenced..
  2. 00:57:708 (2,3,1) - With stacks enabled, (2,3) and (1) are overlapping a bit, how about moving (1) a bit further from (2,3) to avoid it?
  3. 01:01:628 (1) - Ending the slider at 01:02:140 - would play much better IMO because that's where vocals and a woosh sound start at.
  4. 01:25:662 (6,7,8) - These 1/4 jumps look pretty identical to 1/2 jumps, so it could confuse players. How about making them close to each other to avoid confusion?


kiry's Insane

  1. 00:11:515 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - These drums are obviously 1/2 instead of 1/4, you probably know that since slider ends are silenced, but that doesn't change the fact that those slider ends are mapped on nothing. Since slider ends are mapped on nothing, it could be a huge problem because of the fact that there's no sound at all yet it was still mapped, I'd highly suggest you replace those with 1/2 circles, they would work better.
  2. 00:19:355 (1) - Shouldn't this be a jump? Because 00:24:810 (1) - is a jump, and these two sound identical.
  3. 00:30:265 (6) - Missing NC?
  4. 00:32:992 (6) - ^
  5. 00:35:037 (1) - To be honest, I don't really see a good reason of why this should have an NC. I'd just remove NC here and add it on 00:35:719 (3) -.
  6. 00:57:537 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Refer to the first point.
  7. 01:01:628 (1) - And again, I'd end the slider at 01:02:140 - because there's where vocals and the woosh sound start at, it honestly kinda feels unnatural on where it currently ends.
  8. 01:24:810 (1,2,3,4,5) - Just like the first point.


Story of the End

  1. 00:37:765 (5,6) - I would ctrl+g (6) for a better flow because the vocals here are pretty smooth, so a smooth flow should work better for this part.
  2. 01:00:265 (1,4,6,7,8) - And again, 1/4 is not needed as there's no sound that lands on 1/4 other than fading sounds that aren't that audiable, and it sounds like as if it's mapped on nothing because of that. I'd highly suggest you replace these with 1/2 circles instead.
  3. 01:19:355 (1,2) - Pretty much the same problem as above, and also these are quite random since reverses are used in drum sounds or any 1/4 sound, meanwhile there's no 1/4 sound at all.
  4. 01:20:719 (1,2) - ^


Good luck!
Topic Starter
Stormiverse

Xiaolin wrote:

Sorry for the delay aaaa

Easy

  1. 00:14:924 (1) - Why NC? Don't you NC 4 downbeats here?
  2. 01:24:128 (3,4) - Minor, but the overlap between (3)'s body and (4)'s end ruins the visuals since it feels random, try avoiding it for better aesthetics.

fixed all

Insane

  1. 00:06:401 (2,3) - Forgot to unsilence these? (2) and (3) have pretty audiable instuments, and especially (3), it has a strong finish sound, so it really doesn't make sense why it's silenced.. fixed
  2. 00:57:708 (2,3,1) - With stacks enabled, (2,3) and (1) are overlapping a bit, how about moving (1) a bit further from (2,3) to avoid it? it's not a very big problem imo
  3. 01:01:628 (1) - Ending the slider at 01:02:140 - would play much better IMO because that's where vocals and a woosh sound start at. ok
  4. 01:25:662 (6,7,8) - These 1/4 jumps look pretty identical to 1/2 jumps, so it could confuse players. How about making them close to each other to avoid confusion? those aren't 1/4 jumps, they're 1/2 jumps with kicksliders.


Story of the End

  1. 00:37:765 (5,6) - I would ctrl+g (6) for a better flow because the vocals here are pretty smooth, so a smooth flow should work better for this part. fixed
  2. 01:00:265 (1,4,6,7,8) - And again, 1/4 is not needed as there's no sound that lands on 1/4 other than fading sounds that aren't that audiable, and it sounds like as if it's mapped on nothing because of that. I'd highly suggest you replace these with 1/2 circles instead. 1/4 sliders to emphasize piano (?) sounds
  3. 01:19:355 (1,2) - Pretty much the same problem as above, and also these are quite random since reverses are used in drum sounds or any 1/4 sound, meanwhile there's no 1/4 sound at all. :ok:
  4. 01:20:719 (1,2) - ^ ^


Good luck! <3
Kirylln

Xiaolin wrote:

Sorry for the delay aaaa
kiry's Insane

  1. 00:11:515 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - These drums are obviously 1/2 instead of 1/4, you probably know that since slider ends are silenced, but that doesn't change the fact that those slider ends are mapped on nothing. Since slider ends are mapped on nothing, it could be a huge problem because of the fact that there's no sound at all yet it was still mapped, I'd highly suggest you replace those with 1/2 circles, they would work better. i used 1/4 sliders because i need the extra movement as well as the speed produced by the slider's bodies to represent the syth better and additionally the drum too, also i silenced the sliderends because i don't need the extra sounds created by them, that in itself wouldnt work with the drum
  2. 00:19:355 (1) - Shouldn't this be a jump? Because 00:24:810 (1) - is a jump, and these two sound identical. not rlly since the vocals are different
  3. 00:30:265 (6) - Missing NC?
  4. 00:32:992 (6) - ^
  5. 00:35:037 (1) - To be honest, I don't really see a good reason of why this should have an NC. I'd just remove NC here and add it on 00:35:719 (3) -.
  6. 00:57:537 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Refer to the first point.
  7. 01:01:628 (1) - And again, I'd end the slider at 01:02:140 - because there's where vocals and the woosh sound start at, it honestly kinda feels unnatural on where it currently ends. the whoosh sound is represented by the slider's shape, as you can see thats where the movement in the slider changed , so it makes sense
  8. 01:24:810 (1,2,3,4,5) - Just like the first point.

all nc thingys fixed



Good luck!
thx!!
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Alexsander
Good music and map :oops:
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