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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, October 2, 2017 at 8:50:41 PM

Artist: ClariS
Title: SHIORI - TV size mix -
Source: 終物語
Tags: kirylln mcen314 j_a_c_k owarimonogatari second season ed ending araragi koyomi senjougahara hitagi hachikuji mayoi oshino meme ougi shinobu hanekawa tsubasa gaen izuko shaft monogatari series anime tv size vampire crab snail monkey snake cat
BPM: 176
Filesize: 14554kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.44 stars, 88 notes)
  2. Insane (4.18 stars, 300 notes)
  3. J a c k's Normal (2.04 stars, 130 notes)
  4. kiry's Insane (4.82 stars, 342 notes)
  5. Mcen314's Hard (3.32 stars, 223 notes)
  6. Story of the End (5.28 stars, 342 notes)
Download: ClariS - SHIORI - TV size mix -
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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"I don't know anything. It's you who knows, Araragi-senpai."

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8/20/17: Kirylln's GD.
8/21/17: Mcen's GD.
8/23/17: J a c k's GD.
Easy: 100% by Me
J a c k's Normal: 100% by J a c k
Mcen314's Hard: 100% by Mcen314
Insane: 100% by Me
kiry's Insane: 100% by Kirylln
Story of the End: 100% by Me
Hitsounds: by Kirylln and Hitsound Copier Tool
hypercyte
It was fun, I liked the sliders :)
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8878240
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hypercyte wrote:

It was fun, I liked the sliders :)
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8878240
Thanks :D
Dstorv
Modding, cuz was bored

General
  1. Disable Widescreen support, There's no SB here

Story of the End

  • Check AIMod
  1. 00:01:628 (1) - change this to 2 circle (preferably stacked)
  2. 00:05:719 (1,3) - Overlap... ;w;
  3. 00:06:401 (3,1) - Stack the sliderhead with silderend
  4. 00:12:878 (2) - Move the red anchor, so that it completely stack with 00:12:196 (6) - https://puu.sh/xdTp0/31d5a5bdcb.png
  5. 00:15:605 (2,3) - Swap this, the movement in 00:13:901 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - is really consistent, and then you break it without any warning
  6. 00:16:628 (1,3) - overlap
  7. 00:22:083 (1,3) - ^
  8. 00:33:503 (2,4) - stack this
  9. 00:36:742 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - this jump is really hard to read, imo
  10. 00:42:196 (4,1) - overlap, stack 00:42:196 (4) - sliderend with 00:43:219 (2) -
  11. 00:56:174 (4) - ctrl + g
  12. 01:00:265 (1,2) - 01:00:776 (4,1) - ? What's with this huge 1/4 spacing?
  13. 01:13:560 (4) - The 1/4 drum continue until 01:13:901 -
  14. 01:22:594 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - I have no clue what this even mapped to, there's no 1/4 beat in it...
  15. 01:25:662 - 1/4 drum
It's quite a solid diff, some overlap issue, but it's great. I dont know if I really like how you blanket.Some of the blanket is so tight, it almost look like overlapping
Topic Starter
Stormiverse

sullywally wrote:

Modding, cuz was bored

General
  1. Disable Widescreen support, There's no SB here Not yet :D

Story of the End

  • Check AIMod Oops
  1. 00:01:628 (1) - change this to 2 circle (preferably stacked) Why tho? I want to make it less intense
  2. 00:05:719 (1,3) - Overlap... ;w; It's just the slider's body, it won't affect during gameplay. Fix tho
  3. 00:06:401 (3,1) - Stack the sliderhead with silderend Fixed
  4. 00:12:878 (2) - Move the red anchor, so that it completely stack with 00:12:196 (6) - https://puu.sh/xdTp0/31d5a5bdcb.png
  5. 00:15:605 (2,3) - Swap this, the movement in 00:13:901 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - is really consistent, and then you break it without any warning Yes, without warning 8-) Fixed
  6. 00:16:628 (1,3) - overlap Just the slidertail man
  7. 00:22:083 (1,3) - ^ o ^
  8. 00:33:503 (2,4) - stack this 'stack these', but who am I? The vocal at 00:33:503 (2) - is pretty prominent, it's different from the previous beat-long slider
  9. 00:36:742 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - this jump is really hard to read, imo yeah, i get annoyed looking at them too, will fix if have free time
  10. 00:42:196 (4,1) - overlap, stack 00:42:196 (4) - sliderend with 00:43:219 (2) - fixed by rotating 00:41:174 (1,2,3,4) - , like 7 degrees
  11. 00:56:174 (4) - ctrl + g ok
  12. 01:00:265 (1,2) - 01:00:776 (4,1) - ? What's with this huge 1/4 spacing? have you ever heard of the concept 'kicksliders?' there're also piano sounds on 00:41:515 (2,3,4) - , so i make them stand out by adding 1/4 sliders
  13. 01:13:560 (4) - The 1/4 drum continue until 01:13:901 - right, kicksliders added
  14. 01:22:594 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - I have no clue what this even mapped to, there's no 1/4 beat in it... #OvermapToExpressIntensity
  15. 01:25:662 - 1/4 drum damn, you're right. Fixed
It's quite a solid diff, some overlap issue, but it's great. I dont know if I really like how you blanket.Some of the blanket is so tight, it almost look like overlapping Yes
Bored? Have you ever consider?

Here's a kudosu for modding ;)
Atomosphere
was pretty fun ima just shoot kudosu for this cuz i wanna see this get ranked!
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Atomosphere wrote:

was pretty fun ima just shoot kudosu for this cuz i wanna see this get ranked!
OwO thanks man
rockstarrzz
Hi, from modreqs

Easy
00:00:265 (1,1) - nice slider art, could remove the 2nd NC maybe?
00:41:174 (4) - reusing the same shape alot, theres one thing for keeping structure and consistency but it might get a little boring
00:31:287 (5) - NC?
01:08:446 (1) - maybe move this around so it overlaps on 3's head
01:20:719 (3,5) - slight overlap triggers me

Map is fine from a playability standpoint, but the patterns are slider shapes are very repetitive, you're gonna wanna change them up a bit

(dunno if u wanted this one modding aswell but here ya go regardless)
Story of the End
Could boost OD to 8.5
00:33:503 (2,4) - Not a fan of this overlap
00:38:958 (2) - maybe stack on 1?
00:41:515 (2) - ^
00:42:537 (1,2,3) - silence/quieten the slidertails
00:54:128 (2) - stack on 1
00:54:810 (3) - ^
01:11:174 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is quite unpleasant to play, the odd numbered notes decrease in spacing a bit too much for my liking
nice map, very neat placements and blanketing, good job :D
Topic Starter
Stormiverse

rockstarrzz wrote:

Hi, from modreqs

Easy
00:00:265 (1,1) - nice slider art, could remove the 2nd NC maybe? sure, why not? :D
00:41:174 (4) - reusing the same shape alot, theres one thing for keeping structure and consistency but it might get a little boring imo, new players are very bad at the game, so I reuse the same shape so that they can easily relate that to the song. something familiar is obviously easier than something new and strange, right?
00:31:287 (5) - NC? NC every 4 measures (generally), so no
01:08:446 (1) - maybe move this around so it overlaps on 3's head yes, definitely, absolutely
01:20:719 (3,5) - slight overlap triggers me triggers me too

Map is fine from a playability standpoint, but the patterns are slider shapes are very repetitive, you're gonna wanna change them up a bit

(dunno if u wanted this one modding aswell but here ya go regardless)
Story of the End
Could boost OD to 8.5 hmm, higher OD = more pp, hell yeah
00:33:503 (2,4) - Not a fan of this overlap yeah, i did think about that earlier, i'll see what i can do
00:38:958 (2) - maybe stack on 1? ooh, damn, stacking is much better. have to fix that jump tho
00:41:515 (2) - ^ uhh, it's already stacked
00:42:537 (1,2,3) - silence/quieten the slidertails now I have to do it for all the other extended sliders to keep consistency
00:54:128 (2) - stack on 1 i separated them on purpose to lead into 00:54:810 (3) -
00:54:810 (3) - ^o^
01:11:174 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is quite unpleasant to play, the odd numbered notes decrease in spacing a bit too much for my liking the vocal of the song gets softer and softer, so i mapped the jumps shorter and shorter
nice map, very neat placements and blanketing, good job :D such flattering, here, have a kudosu
Arow
>.>
<.<
#modreqs


Easy

00:05:719 (1) - I think shape or placement could be better
00:31:287 (5) - without NC it feels bad, what if you would make 4th circle overlap slider and then space it a little bit.
00:52:082 (4) - snap this slider to the timeline
01:04:696 (4,5) - should be placed same as 01:07:424 (4,5)


ugh, change this slider shape in all sliders exept those with reverse arrows.
Nikakis
Very beautiful map, wish you the best~!
Topic Starter
Stormiverse
gonna use color from now on
BLUE = yes
RED = persuade me


x Arow wrote:

>.>
<.<
#modreqs

Easy

00:05:719 (1) - I think shape or placement could be better better how? (i dislike the shape too) fixed tho
00:31:287 (5) - without NC it feels bad, what if you would make 4th circle overlap slider and then space it a little bit. can you be a bit clearer? i don't understand what you're trying to say (like with a screenshot or something)https://a.uguu.se/5ICKB5k8LxQr_xArow-20170820-105752.txt
00:52:082 (4) - snap this slider to the timeline oops, forgot about AImod
01:04:696 (4,5) - should be placed same as 01:07:424 (4,5) yes, yes it should, fixed the later tho, parallel is better


ugh, change this slider shape in all sliders exept those with reverse arrows. but doing that would ruin patterns like these

massive changes in slider shapes

Nikakis wrote:

Very beautiful map, wish you the best~!
You too man, you beautiful... man... or woman...
SparkNights
I'd like GD a Hard diff
But <Source> is Garbage characters,So you need fix <Source> manually
Topic Starter
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Mcen314 wrote:

I'd like GD a Hard diff
But <Source> is Garbage characters,So you need fix <Source> manually
Thanks for the GD.
Walshy
Saw this posted in modreqs the other day
First mod sorry if its super subjective

Easy:
00:09:128 (3) - Why stack this?
01:24:810 (5) - Would look pretty if it was blanketed around the three sliders

Mcen314's Hard:
00:05:719 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - The first note in each combo has a different beat than the second, maybe try and display that
00:35:378 (3,1) - Fix blanket? not sure if this is supposed to be a blanket or not
00:35:719 (1) - Repeat slider doesn't really fit here, doesn't match rhythm or lyrics

Kyri's Insane:
00:09:810 (1) - The beat is too strong to be a sliderend
00:31:628 (1) - Differentiate this slider from 00:31:969 (2,3) to emphasize the different sound
01:07:083 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Increase spacing here
Kiai - Increase the spacing a bit more?
01:12:452 (5) - NC

Story of the End:
00:08:446 (1) - Slider here to match 00:05:719 (1) and 00:07:083 (1) ?
00:11:515 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - The music here is getting consistently more intense, but you only made it seem like the intensity changed between 00:11:855 (4,5)
00:43:219 (2) - NC
00:43:901 (3) - NC

Really pretty mapset! Sorry again if my mods were too opinionated :)
Topic Starter
Stormiverse
BLUE = agree
RED = persuade me


Walshy wrote:

Saw this posted in modreqs the other day
First mod sorry if its super subjective

Easy:
00:09:128 (3) - Why stack this? idk :D
01:24:810 (5) - Would look pretty if it was blanketed around the three sliders yes, yes it would

Story of the End:
00:08:446 (1) - Slider here to match 00:05:719 (1) and 00:07:083 (1) ? no, because the vocal at 00:08:446 (1) - is much shorter than those at 00:09:128 (2,3) - . another reason why i chose hitcircle is because the vocals at 00:08:446 (1) - and 00:09:128 (2) - are the same.
00:11:515 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - The music here is getting consistently more intense, but you only made it seem like the intensity changed between 00:11:855 (4,5) the increasing intensity can also be represented by that, spacing doesn't necessary have to be higher after each hitobject
00:43:219 (2) - NC why? NCing it here would cause inconsistency with 00:09:128 (2,3) -
00:43:901 (3) - NC ^

Really pretty mapset! Sorry again if my mods were too opinionated :)
Thanks
Kirylln

Walshy wrote:

Saw this posted in modreqs the other day
First mod sorry if its super subjective

Kyri's Insane:
00:09:810 (1) - The beat is too strong to be a sliderend ye
00:31:628 (1) - Differentiate this slider from 00:31:969 (2,3) to emphasize the different sound they all represent the vocal, there's no need
01:07:083 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Increase spacing here its enough for me
Kiai - Increase the spacing a bit more? nah
01:12:452 (5) - NC no since i want to emphasize the cymbal afterward
thx!
just copy everything in, fix the tag too
Aro
Hey! #modrequest; Excuse any language mistakes I do, because my English isn't fluent.

Story of the End
General: Space Usage
->press cntrl+a in the editor, you recognize a limited field of object placement -> many overlaps, cluttered -> lacks aesthetics

Detailed Mod:
00:09:128 (2,3) - I don't know why you over mapped them on the 1/4 because there is a really strong sound on 1/2
00:42:537 (1,2,3) - ^ same case
00:10:492 (4) - I think to go with sliders here is off because the slider tail has a much stronger sound than the slider head
00:23:105 (4) - ^
00:35:719 (1) - ^
00:36:230 (2) - ^ in this case the return arrow has the strongest sound
00:45:605 (2,3) - ^
00:46:969 (2) - ^
00:48:333 (6) - ^
-> strong sounds often need to be clicked, so putting a slider tail/reverse arrow on them screws with the emphasis of a sound
00:11:344 (x) - I don't know why you under mapped
00:16:202 (x) - ^ but in this case i would replace 00:16:117 (2) - by a kickslider, so 00:16:287 (3) - doesn't loose it's emphasis
00:38:787 (1) - ^
00:24:725 (6) - unnecessary over map in my opinion
00:32:907 (6) - ^
00:59:327 (6) - ^
01:04:270 (6) - ^
01:06:997 (9) - ^
01:12:537 (1,2) - second and last slider tick is over mapped
01:19:355 (1,2) - ^^
01:20:719 (1,2) - ^^
01:05:634 (6) - ^ it's over mapped and you put emphasis by spacing on a sound that's not given
01:08:361 (6) - ^^
00:27:367 (4,5) - I would space them more cause of their strong sounds
01:16:969 (3,4) - unreasonable double, because the sounds aren't the same also the emphasis is off because the second circle is clearly a strong instrument sound
01:21:912 (6,1) - ^

Good Luck with your set! o/
Topic Starter
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Aro wrote:

Hey! #modrequest; Excuse any language mistakes I do, because my English isn't fluent.

Story of the End
General: Space Usage
->press cntrl+a in the editor, you recognize a limited field of object placement -> many overlaps, cluttered -> lacks aesthetics

Detailed Mod:
00:09:128 (2,3) - I don't know why you over mapped them on the 1/4 because there is a really strong sound on 1/2
00:42:537 (1,2,3) - ^ same case
00:10:492 (4) - I think to go with sliders here is off because the slider tail has a much stronger sound than the slider head
00:23:105 (4) - ^
00:35:719 (1) - ^
00:36:230 (2) - ^ in this case the return arrow has the strongest sound
00:45:605 (2,3) - ^
00:46:969 (2) - ^
00:48:333 (6) - ^
-> strong sounds often need to be clicked, so putting a slider tail/reverse arrow on them screws with the emphasis of a sound
00:11:344 (x) - I don't know why you under mapped
00:16:202 (x) - ^ but in this case i would replace 00:16:117 (2) - by a kickslider, so 00:16:287 (3) - doesn't loose it's emphasis
00:38:787 (1) - ^
00:24:725 (6) - unnecessary over map in my opinion
00:32:907 (6) - ^
00:59:327 (6) - ^
01:04:270 (6) - ^
01:06:997 (9) - ^
01:12:537 (1,2) - second and last slider tick is over mapped
01:19:355 (1,2) - ^^
01:20:719 (1,2) - ^^
01:05:634 (6) - ^ it's over mapped and you put emphasis by spacing on a sound that's not given
01:08:361 (6) - ^^
00:27:367 (4,5) - I would space them more cause of their strong sounds
01:16:969 (3,4) - unreasonable double, because the sounds aren't the same also the emphasis is off because the second circle is clearly a strong instrument sound
01:21:912 (6,1) - ^

Good Luck with your set! o/
I'm gonna go easy on you, man, because it seems like you didn't get my intention behind my object placements and rhythm choices.

First thing first, let me clear something out for you, I mapped VOCALS, so my map follows closely to the vocals of the song, of course with exceptions here and there, but mostly vocals. Most of your mods, on the other hand, follow closer to the instrument of the song, which is kinda opposite of what I'm doing here.

For example, your first 'detailed mod' indicate that these sliders 00:09:128 (2,3) - are overmapped, but if you listen to the vocals, there are held sounds, and those sounds extended to 1/4. The three sounds in the middle are really not that big of a deal, since I'm following the vocals.
However, there was another held sound after the two sliders, at 00:10:492 (4) - , but I didn't mapped them like the previous two, and I have two reasons to change the rhythm.
  1. The first being what you said,
00:10:492 (4) - I think to go with sliders here is off because the slider tail has a much stronger sound than the slider head
and you're correct, the tail do have a much stronger INSTRUMENTAL sound than the sliderhead, which was mapped after the VOCAL. If I place another Extended Slider there, it would mean I'm neglecting those two really stand out sounds, which is different than the first two, 00:09:128 (2,3) - .The second reason why I chose two 1/2 sliders is because of intensity. Take a look that the previous 2 seconds, the intensity here is very low, described through the lack of active notes, with only one every two beats. Now take a look at the next 2 seconds, what do you see? Jumps. Consecutive 1/2 beat active notes, which push the intensity way higher than the that of the previous 2-second segment. So what I wanted to do was to make a smooth transition between the two, with 2/1 active note to 1/1, and then 1/2, aka the jump.

00:09:128 (2,3) - I don't know why you over mapped them on the 1/4 because there is a really strong sound on 1/2
00:42:537 (1,2,3) - ^ same case
00:10:492 (4) - I think to go with sliders here is off because the slider tail has a much stronger sound than the slider head
00:23:105 (4) - ^
00:35:719 (1) - ^
00:45:605 (2,3) - ^
00:46:969 (2) - ^
00:48:333 (6) - ^
-> strong sounds often need to be clicked, so putting a slider tail/reverse arrow on them screws with the emphasis of a sound
Active notes follow Vocals, not the Instrument.

00:11:344 (x) - I don't know why you under mapped
There're no sounds there.

00:16:202 (x) - ^ but in this case i would replace 00:16:117 (2) - by a kickslider, so 00:16:287 (3) - doesn't loose it's emphasis
The 1-2-3 1-2-3 pattern is much more prominent than drum sounds being played background. Consistency with 00:15:435 (1,2,3) - .

00:38:787 (1) - ^
Is there a sound there? If not, it would be overmapping. Moreover, this is the entrance to the 'calm' part of the song, which means note density shouldn't be as high as the previous segments.

00:24:725 (6) - unnecessary over map in my opinion
00:32:907 (6) - ^
00:59:327 (6) - ^
01:04:270 (6) - ^
01:06:997 (9) - ^
01:05:634 (6) - ^ it's over mapped and you put emphasis by spacing on a sound that's not given
01:08:361 (6) - ^^
Triplets to emphasize the last note.

00:36:230 (2) - ^ in this case the return arrow has the strongest sound
There're no vocals here, only instruments, so i chose the least intense way to map the three beats.

01:12:537 (1,2) - second and last slider tick is over mapped
01:19:355 (1,2) - ^^
01:20:719 (1,2) - ^^
They're not overmapped. They're placed that way to express the vocals, which were held sounds. Unlike the held sounds at the beginning, this section is much more intense because this is the Chorus of the song. So instead of using 1 long-ass un-intensed slider, I used two kicksliders with reverses.

00:27:367 (4,5) - I would space them more cause of their strong sounds
OK.

01:16:969 (3,4) - unreasonable double, because the sounds aren't the same also the emphasis is off because the second circle is clearly a strong instrument sound
If you have the Lyrics for the song, you would found out that there are actually vocals on the second note. The three notes 01:16:969 (3,4,5) - makes up the word "hatte" in Japanese, pronounced "ha-at-te", but the "at" is spoken at a much faster rate than the others. You'll understand what I'm saying if you know a little bit about Japanese and their pronunciation.
While we're at it, if you're wondering what vocal is at 01:17:480 (6) - , it's "i"


01:21:912 (6,1) - ^
Fixed into Triplet.

Secondly, about your statement of my
Space Usage
and
limited field of object placement
, I'm following a similar pattern to that of Monstrata's, only using different geometric shapes. For example, if you take a look at the active notes of 00:01:117 (4,5,1,2) - , you can easily see what pattern I'm using here.
And just because I'm following a strict pattern, DOES NOT mean I'm going to have overlaps and clustered object, since every objects that are on the same spot on the grid are spaced far away from each other on the timeline.
And if that lacks aesthetics, your pattern is just not good enough.
Shunao
You can give kudosu to Aro because you fixed 2 things on his mod~

And you can explain him the reasons of your refusals without being too rude.

Stormiverse wrote:

I'm gonna go easy on you, man
And if that lacks aesthetics, your pattern is just not good enough.
...
Topic Starter
Stormiverse

ShogunMoon wrote:

You can give kudosu to Aro because you fixed 2 things on his mod~

And you can explain him the reasons of your refusals without being too rude.

Stormiverse wrote:

I'm gonna go easy on you, man
And if that lacks aesthetics, your pattern is just not good enough.
...
Got it, thanks.
Spayyce
yo, m4m reply ! <3

Story of the End

00:01:287 (5) - Ctrl+G for more consistency, it will match slider 3 this way and make a better circular flow. Also, Ctrl+G 00:01:628 (1) if you do agree

00:01:628 (1) - Unsure if this overlap is intentional, just an aesthetic suggestion.

00:01:287 (5,2) - ^

00:05:378 (4) - Feels like overmap for the bass guitar, I would make this a slider with no reverse, but maybe slow the velocity down to reflect it because atm the 1/4 isn't mapped to any 'real' sound.

00:08:446 (1) - Move this to x:288 y:320 so it is centered between the two notes, again aesthetic suggestion:)

I am hearing vocals at 00:13:219 , 00:13:390 , and a guitar sound at 00:13:560 . All are quite big parts to this buildup, I think mapping them all out would make this part feel more difficult (which would be more suitable for this diff) as well as being responsive to these notes.

00:12:196 (6,2) - Also, put the 6 on this slider so it matches your map style more! :)

00:18:333 (2) - Ctrl+G so it has a contrast just like 00:17:310 (3,4) do.

00:22:765 (3) - Sliderend isn't central in this other slider so it kind of looks strange, maybe moving it up a touch will see some aesthetic improvement.

00:23:105 (4,3) - Stack?

00:49:867 (2,3) - The stacking here causes the note go overlap the blanket, and I am sure this is unintended, you should enable overlapping in the editor by default, because in gameplay the player will see this:


00:57:367 (5,1) - ^

01:04:355 (1,5) - Stack sliderend, dont know, just cleans stuff up a bit xD

01:14:242 (3,7) - Stack these so it's consistent with the other stack you've made.


kiry's Insane

00:01:799 (2,4,1) - Again, as in the extra make sure you've enabled stacking in the editor so you can see where osu is automatically stacking notes, because in gameplay it looks like this.


00:10:662 (1,2,3) - Spacing here is inconsistent with the distance snap. I appreciate the underjumps you've done early in the map though, but this feels a bit odd. You could try placing note 2 at x:136 y:20 for a similar mapping effect to before, but it's up to you.

01:20:037 (2) - Similar to above, this could be a bit jarring, even with it being introduced it just feels odd with the spacing.

01:27:537 (1) - Could make the velocity a higher so it ends on the red tick, so it's consistent with all the other diffs.

owo love the map style on this!

Mcen314's Hard

00:00:265 (1,1) - Hello mapping? XD

00:05:719 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I don't get the aesthetic here, again it feels quite undermapped. A lot of copy paste is here, I would try and incorporate more variation just so the player is kept more engaged.

00:14:412 (2,4) - Overlap here, unsure if this was intentional or not though, maybe stack it or try and blanket it with slider 2.

00:15:435 (4,5,6) - Spacing here isn't consistent, but it really feels like it should because there is no change in the music to break distance snap for.

00:17:992 (5) - Stack this where the end of slider 1 is, because like above it's not snapped.

00:21:060 (2,3,4) - Blankets here are off, which in turn ruins the triangle effect I believe you're trying to go for, blanketing them would yield a cleaner result like so:


00:25:833 (4,5) - Make is so the end of slider 4 is in the middle of the next slider, just for consistency.

00:42:537 (1,3) - ^

00:46:628 (1) - At 00:46:969 , there is a strong beat you don't seem to be mapping on, which breaks the rhythm that you've set since it's a large and prominent beat within the song. It worked at 00:35:719 (1) because the vocals were slow and extended on one word, I would make the slider in question 1/1 to make it more uniform with the rest of your rhythm choices.

00:49:867 (2,3,4) - One of them isn't blanketed and kind of looks unappealing considering you're going for a blanket pattern straight after.

00:53:105 (3,1) - Curving the new combo slider would make a blanket here too, looks more aesthetically appealing imo. (If you agree make sure to reblanket 00:54:128 (2) too!) :)


00:55:833 - Add a note here?

00:56:685 - ^, as a suggestion you could make the note at 00:56:174 (4) a reverse slider that starts its reverse on the timing point.

01:00:776 (3,6,1) - Like the above two diffs, enable stacking in the editor to avoid stuff like this (which is shown in gameplay)


01:12:878 (3,4,5) - Spacing isn't consistent here.

01:27:622 (1) - End on the downbeat

J a c k Normal

00:21:401 (4) - Move this to x:388 y:184 so the slider end makes a nice triangle shape like so:


00:24:469 (6) - X:228 Y:340 for a more circular flow.

01:05:719 (1,3) - Don't think these work too well together due to the angle at which each slider is positioned at, I would make them go in a single direction so it looks more aesthetically pleasing and consistent.

01:13:730 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Could be a little difficult considering for the most part you've been doing 1/1 with only isolated parts being 1/2. I would maybe tone this part down a little bit by adding more 1/1 sliders.


Easy

I'm unsure on how you've structured your combos on this map, they don't appear to be following a measure set. For example you're using 2 measure every new combo, then changing to 3 measures and even putting combos on every note following. Just feel it needs a little touch up to establish some consistency in the combos.

00:13:901 (1,1,1,1,1) - A bit heavy on the new combos in my opinion, the fact 00:15:435 (1) ends on a downbeat and is going through a lot of heavy beats in the song (yes I appreciate the slider is curved to the beats) means that you're going to be using a large amount of new combo's offsetting the drain and overall consistent of the combos. I would consider revising this part and the slider in particular so you're engaging proper use of the songs beats.

00:35:719 (5) - This slider is off the screen in game play, and goes against the ranking criteria. Move this up a touch.

01:04:696 (4,5) - I'd be fine with this, even in the easy. It's just that it's really sudden and the player hasn't been given any previous indication that you're going to be using 1/2 as a main part to hit. I would probably just keep a 1/1 on this part since it still matches the vocals ups and downs here.

01:07:424 (4,5) - ^

01:10:492 (4,4) - Small issue with stacking here

01:15:265 (4,5) - This is a really good way to introduce the 1/2. Since the player is still actively clicking 1/1 but they can hear that you're introducing 1/2. Trying something like this at the 1/2 part mentioned above.

01:19:355 (1,2,3,4) - The vocals here are the same, as well as the beats backing them. I would keep the pattern idea consistent here for a better reflection of the music.

01:24:895 (1,1) - I'd be careful on the length here, as well as the spinner leading into other spinner idea as new players aren't fully grasped with the concept of spinners, nevermind double spinners.


best of luck! <3
Topic Starter
Stormiverse

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yo, m4m reply ! <3

Story of the End

00:01:287 (5) - Ctrl+G for more consistency, it will match slider 3 this way and make a better circular flow. Also, Ctrl+G 00:01:628 (1) if you do agree i'm planning on changing circular flow here, so no

00:01:628 (1) - Unsure if this overlap is intentional, just an aesthetic suggestion. what overlap?

00:01:287 (5,2) - ^ they barely touch each other :/

00:05:378 (4) - Feels like overmap for the bass guitar, I would make this a slider with no reverse, but maybe slow the velocity down to reflect it because atm the 1/4 isn't mapped to any 'real' sound. true af, fixed

00:08:446 (1) - Move this to x:288 y:320 so it is centered between the two notes, again aesthetic suggestion:) rotational symmetry at 00:07:594 (2,3,4,1) -

I am hearing vocals at 00:13:219 , 00:13:390 , and a guitar sound at 00:13:560 . All are quite big parts to this buildup, I think mapping them all out would make this part feel more difficult (which would be more suitable for this diff) as well as being responsive to these notes. i neglected the vocals because there're no instruments being played, and i neglected the guitar because i want to map that last vocal before the drop. does it make any sense to you?

00:12:196 (6,2) - Also, put the 6 on this slider so it matches your map style more! :) done

00:18:333 (2) - Ctrl+G so it has a contrast just like 00:17:310 (3,4) do. ok

00:22:765 (3) - Sliderend isn't central in this other slider so it kind of looks strange, maybe moving it up a touch will see some aesthetic improvement. i'm following the same pattern as the beginning here, so i want 00:22:765 (3) - to blanket the sliderhead of 00:23:787 (2) -

00:23:105 (4,3) - Stack? why did i place it there in the first place?

00:49:867 (2,3) - The stacking here causes the note go overlap the blanket, and I am sure this is unintended, you should enable overlapping in the editor by default, because in gameplay the player will see this:

yes, i have been aware of that during my test plays, dunno how to fix it tho. i'll see what i can do

00:57:367 (5,1) - ^ fixed

01:04:355 (1,5) - Stack sliderend, dont know, just cleans stuff up a bit xD i'm following a different pattern here (triangles)

01:14:242 (3,7) - Stack these so it's consistent with the other stack you've made. ok


Easy

I'm unsure on how you've structured your combos on this map, they don't appear to be following a measure set. For example you're using 2 measure every new combo, then changing to 3 measures and even putting combos on every note following. Just feel it needs a little touch up to establish some consistency in the combos.
NC every 4 measures. If contains long-ass sliders, 2~4 active notes per combo. If contain unusual long pauses (ex. 00:30:265 (4,1) - ), NC after the pause. If contain irregular rhythms (ex. 00:13:901 (1,1,1,1) - ), NC all of them.

00:13:901 (1,1,1,1,1) - A bit heavy on the new combos in my opinion, the fact 00:15:435 (1) ends on a downbeat and is going through a lot of heavy beats in the song (yes I appreciate the slider is curved to the beats) means that you're going to be using a large amount of new combo's offsetting the drain and overall consistent of the combos. I would consider revising this part and the slider in particular so you're engaging proper use of the songs beats.

Stormiverse wrote:

If contain irregular rhythms (ex. 00:13:901 (1,1,1,1) - ), NC all of them.
00:35:719 (5) - This slider is off the screen in game play, and goes against the ranking criteria. Move this up a touch. it only appeared to be off-screen in the editor due to the low CS

01:04:696 (4,5) - I'd be fine with this, even in the easy. It's just that it's really sudden and the player hasn't been given any previous indication that you're going to be using 1/2 as a main part to hit. I would probably just keep a 1/1 on this part since it still matches the vocals ups and downs here. doing so would decrease note density, and this is Kiai, where the intensity should be the highest

01:07:424 (4,5) - ^ ^

01:10:492 (4,4) - Small issue with stacking here fixed

01:15:265 (4,5) - This is a really good way to introduce the 1/2. Since the player is still actively clicking 1/1 but they can hear that you're introducing 1/2. Trying something like this at the 1/2 part mentioned above. these are two different sections of the Kiai, sadly. if i put the 3/2 slider here, the slidertail of 01:05:208 (5) - would have nothing, and that's a strong sound

01:19:355 (1,2,3,4) - The vocals here are the same, as well as the beats backing them. I would keep the pattern idea consistent here for a better reflection of the music. ok

01:24:895 (1,1) - I'd be careful on the length here, as well as the spinner leading into other spinner idea as new players aren't fully grasped with the concept of spinners, nevermind double spinners. a measure is long enough for players to recover from the first spinner (double spinners usually refers to spinners that are spaced 1/4 or less tho)


best of luck! <3
luck is has already came *wink *wink
Kirylln

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yo, m4m reply ! <3

kiry's Insane

00:01:799 (2,4,1) - Again, as in the extra make sure you've enabled stacking in the editor so you can see where osu is automatically stacking notes, because in gameplay it looks like this.kill me


00:10:662 (1,2,3) - Spacing here is inconsistent with the distance snap. I appreciate the underjumps you've done early in the map though, but this feels a bit odd. You could try placing note 2 at x:136 y:20 for a similar mapping effect to before, but it's up to you. ended up decreasing the spacing but not too much since i want to properly emphasize the drum, which does not appear until now
01:20:037 (2) - Similar to above, this could be a bit jarring, even with it being introduced it just feels odd with the spacing. yes,make more sense to change it here

01:27:537 (1) - Could make the velocity a higher so it ends on the red tick, so it's consistent with all the other diffs. sure, wanted to change this slider anw :3

owo love the map style on this! <3




best of luck! <3
thx!

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256,196,80463,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,200,80549,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,204,80634,1,2,0:0:0:0:
255,208,80719,6,0,P|191:239|129:202,1,135,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
0,170,81060,2,0,P|51:156|93:172,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
118,303,81401,6,0,P|59:263|50:218,1,90,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
198,295,81742,2,0,P|235:332|242:376,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,290,82083,6,0,B|343:307|383:273|383:273|419:235|496:260,1,180,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
329,224,82765,1,2,0:0:0:0:
250,170,82935,1,2,0:0:0:0:
327,137,83105,6,0,P|334:95|308:33,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
309,43,83361,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,37,83446,2,0,P|337:44|400:18,1,90,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
250,170,83787,1,8,0:0:0:0:
158,138,83958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
66,170,84128,1,8,0:0:0:0:
66,170,84213,1,8,0:0:0:0:
66,170,84299,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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158,138,84640,1,8,0:0:0:0:
158,138,84725,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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158,246,84980,2,8,P|143:289|135:297,1,45,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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233,250,85662,5,8,0:0:0:0:
259,274,85747,1,8,0:0:0:0:
292,287,85832,1,8,0:0:0:0:
328,285,85917,1,8,0:0:0:0:
360,271,86002,1,8,0:0:0:0:
385,244,86088,1,8,0:0:0:0:
394,226,86174,6,0,L|392:282,1,33.7500012874604,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,64,86855,5,2,0:0:0:0:
400,64,87026,1,2,0:0:0:0:
149,216,87367,1,2,0:0:0:0:
149,216,87537,6,0,B|167:202|175:169|175:169|198:208|203:244|203:244|234:243|259:260|259:260|286:244|315:244|315:244|320:207|346:173|346:173|359:204|389:230,1,377.999988464356
bezbashn
[Easy]
00:28:219 - 1 tick up. To make a straight line with 2 and 3

[Jack's Normal]
00:25:833(2,3,1) - Higher all these 2 ticks up. ^
00:31:287(2) - 1 tick up
01:11:174(1,2,3,4,5) - Maybe smth like this ? Visuals are better.

[Mcsen314's Hard]
00:01:628 and 00:04:355 - I realy want circles to be there
00:06:401 - Sliderend 1 tick up
00:09:128 - SLiderend 1 tick down
00:10:492 - Sliderend 1 tick to right
00:43:049 - Stick to grid (size 4) and move 1 tick to right
00:43:219 - Move 2 ticks to right
01:01:458 - Stick to grid (size 4) and move 2 ticks to left

[Insane]
Complete your set man...

[kiry's Insane]
00:00:094 - Song starts here...
00:10:321(2,1) - Unstack
00:16:117(1,2,1,2) - Hot mess of circles
00:36:060 - Stack properly
00:40:662 - ^. Actually there is alot of examples for this. But if you don't want - then dont fix it.
00:52:992(2,3,1) - Mess again

[Story of the End]
00:00:094 - No NC
00:08:446 - Unstack. And 00:12:537(1,2)
00:41:174 and 00:45:265 etc. - ^
00:31:969 - A bit of overlap
00:32:821(5,6,1) - Stack properly
00:57:367(5,6,1) - ^

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Stormiverse
Nothing to see here, I just want to make this place a compilation of mods for Mcen314's GD because he hasn't been online for the last 3~4 days. And I don't want him scrolling everywhere to get his mods.
Yes, I'm that good.


Here are your mods. Good luck! (Also can you be online more frequently?)

Walshy wrote:

Mcen314's Hard:
00:05:719 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - The first note in each combo has a different beat than the second, maybe try and display that
00:35:378 (3,1) - Fix blanket? not sure if this is supposed to be a blanket or not
00:35:719 (1) - Repeat slider doesn't really fit here, doesn't match rhythm or lyrics

-Space- wrote:

Mcen314's Hard

00:00:265 (1,1) - Hello mapping? XD

00:05:719 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I don't get the aesthetic here, again it feels quite undermapped. A lot of copy paste is here, I would try and incorporate more variation just so the player is kept more engaged.

00:14:412 (2,4) - Overlap here, unsure if this was intentional or not though, maybe stack it or try and blanket it with slider 2.

00:15:435 (4,5,6) - Spacing here isn't consistent, but it really feels like it should because there is no change in the music to break distance snap for.

00:17:992 (5) - Stack this where the end of slider 1 is, because like above it's not snapped.

00:21:060 (2,3,4) - Blankets here are off, which in turn ruins the triangle effect I believe you're trying to go for, blanketing them would yield a cleaner result like so:


00:25:833 (4,5) - Make is so the end of slider 4 is in the middle of the next slider, just for consistency.

00:42:537 (1,3) - ^

00:46:628 (1) - At 00:46:969 , there is a strong beat you don't seem to be mapping on, which breaks the rhythm that you've set since it's a large and prominent beat within the song. It worked at 00:35:719 (1) because the vocals were slow and extended on one word, I would make the slider in question 1/1 to make it more uniform with the rest of your rhythm choices.

00:49:867 (2,3,4) - One of them isn't blanketed and kind of looks unappealing considering you're going for a blanket pattern straight after.

00:53:105 (3,1) - Curving the new combo slider would make a blanket here too, looks more aesthetically appealing imo. (If you agree make sure to reblanket 00:54:128 (2) too!) :)


00:55:833 - Add a note here?

00:56:685 - ^, as a suggestion you could make the note at 00:56:174 (4) a reverse slider that starts its reverse on the timing point.

01:00:776 (3,6,1) - Like the above two diffs, enable stacking in the editor to avoid stuff like this (which is shown in gameplay)


01:12:878 (3,4,5) - Spacing isn't consistent here.

01:27:622 (1) - End on the downbeat

best of luck! <3

bezbashn wrote:

[Mcsen314's Hard]
00:01:628 and 00:04:355 - I realy want circles to be there
00:06:401 - Sliderend 1 tick up
00:09:128 - SLiderend 1 tick down
00:10:492 - Sliderend 1 tick to right
00:43:049 - Stick to grid (size 4) and move 1 tick to right
00:43:219 - Move 2 ticks to right
01:01:458 - Stick to grid (size 4) and move 2 ticks to left
Kirylln

bezbashn wrote:

[kiry's Insane]
00:00:094 - Song starts here... yea but i want to start when the piano starts, it makes more sense to me
00:10:321(2,1) - Unstack why? it fits the drum quite well imo
00:16:117(1,2,1,2) - Hot mess of circles its not for me tho, it is 100% intentional, to capture the change in the music.00:16:117 (1,2) - this is solely for the drum and 00:16:287 (1,2,3,4) - is spaced out and changed direction because there a new instrument flies, not sure what it is called but you should be able to here it quite clearly with hitsounds off
00:36:060 - Stack properly intentional
00:40:662 - ^. Actually there is alot of examples for this. But if you don't want - then dont fix it. k..
00:52:992(2,3,1) - Mess again looks quite nice to me :v
Good luck!
Next time when you're modding, pls first try to understand what the mapper's intention is.It would be way more helpful to the mapper that way
thx for your effort anw and gl on your modding journey :3
Topic Starter
Stormiverse

bezbashn wrote:

[Easy]
00:28:219 - 1 tick up. To make a straight line with 2 and 3 you mean 1 pixel up? if that's what you mean, i say they're already aligned

[Insane]
Complete your set man...
want to join? I'm too lazy to finish this diff :D

[Story of the End]
00:00:094 - No NC its automatic NC bro :/
00:08:446 - Unstack. And 00:12:537(1,2) But... WHY?
00:41:174 and 00:45:265 etc. - ^ Have you ever think I stacked them 'on purpose'?
00:31:969 - A bit of overlap no, no it's not :/
00:32:821(5,6,1) - Stack properly I made them this way so they're 'not stacked'
00:57:367(5,6,1) - ^ Same as above

Good luck!
Spayyce

Stormiverse wrote:

-Space- wrote:

00:35:719 (5) - This slider is off the screen in game play, and goes against the ranking criteria. Move this up a touch. it only appeared to be off-screen in the editor due to the low CS

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Yo, just here to show that on my resolution 1920x1080 fullscreen the slider is offscreen at the centre, just move it up a tiny bit and it will be rankable. I am aware that sliders can go out the map screen in the editor, but in gameplay this is also offscreen.

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