Powerless feat. kakichoco - Vanity · forum

Kyuukai

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-08-09T14:26:21+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on mardi 13 février 2018 at 20:37:15

Artist: Powerless feat. kakichoco
Title: Vanity
Tags: kakiless 柿チョコ無力P MuryokuP Comiket Odyssey Utaite worminators linada yaleufeu celerih realazy psionic naotoshi sotarks kin
BPM: 180
Filesize: 8939kb
Play Time: 01:39
Difficulties Available:

cereal's Extra (5.3 stars, 341 notes)
Kyunada's Insane (4.11 stars, 294 notes)
Nao's Insane (4.69 stars, 325 notes)
Normal (2.03 stars, 180 notes)
PsiOniC & Kin's Easy (1.59 stars, 98 notes)
Sotarks' Arrogance (5.65 stars, 344 notes)
Wormi's Hard (2.98 stars, 242 notes)

Download: Powerless feat. kakichoco - Vanity
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Easy by PsiOniC & Kin

Normal by Me

Hard by Worminators

Insane by Me & Linada, Naotoshi

Extra by celerih & Realazy

Arrogance by Sotarks

Metadata : https://diverse.direct/kakiless/odyssey/

log

: Nevo

: Chromoxx

Last edited by Kyuukai 2018-03-07T14:35:39+00:00, edited 54 times in total.

Linada

992 posts

Joined November 2014

Linada 2017-08-09T14:35:06+00:00

OMG I LOVE THIS MAP

Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Shunao 2017-08-09T14:50:38+00:00

o/

General

open aimod lul

Easy

open aimod
00:21:524 - note pour emphasis le piano?

Normal

00:20:524 - note pour emphasis le piano?

Hard

00:54:024 (1,4) - contact
01:15:357 (1,2) - unstack les, pour emphasis les drums

bye

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,089 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-08-09T14:52:15+00:00

update august 9 2017

osu file format v14

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Title:Vanity
TitleUnicode:Vanity
Artist:Powerless feat. kakichoco
ArtistUnicode:Powerless feat. kakichoco
Creator:Kyuukai
Version:Nao's Insane
Source:
Tags:無力P MuryokuP Comiket Odyssey Utaite Kakiless worminators linada yaleufeu celerih realazy psionic ovoui naotoshi
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Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-08-09T14:55:48+00:00

ShogunMoon wrote:
o/

General
open aimod lul
a merci, fixed

Normal
00:20:524 - note pour emphasis le piano?
no, trop dense si je mappe la note xd

bye

celerih

617 posts

Joined July 2014

celerih 2017-08-09T15:03:49+00:00

Fixed 1 thing + changed diff name

cereal's Arrogance

osu file format v14

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Also here's a quick mod

[

Nao's Insane]

00:02:857 (3) - This rhythm should be changed. If you want to go for piano then add a reverse to it, because ending it there ignores the piano on 00:03:190 - or you can extend it by 1/2 to cover the 1/1 vocals, your choice
00:13:524 (3) - Same
00:37:024 (5,7) - 00:39:691 (5,7) - Kidna nitpicky but they're slightly off

Throat infection is ruining me so I'll have to stop here, hopefully these few points we're useful

Last edited by celerih 2017-09-20T18:09:03+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

[ IWeenox ]

306 posts

Joined January 2015

[ IWeenox ] 2017-08-09T15:12:16+00:00

psiovoui's easy

[]00:25:691 (2) - meilleur blanket avec ça 00:27:357 (1) - ?

normal

[]ça serait peut-être mieux si tu mettais un circle sur le red tick après ça 00:26:190 (4) - et positionné sur la head de 00:26:691 (6) - (pour chaque patterns qui le font)
ex:

[]tu loupes un son important ici 00:34:690 (6) -

wormi's hard

[]le blanket pourrait être légèrement mieux fait 00:10:857 (6) -

Nao's insane

[]met cette note 01:25:691 (6) - à la même place que celle-là 01:26:857 (3) - elles sont quasiment superposées c'est dommage mdrr
[]je sais pas si c'est voulu mais t'as pas mal d'occasions de mieux faire tes blankets style là 00:09:524 (4) - par rapport à 00:09:024 (2) -
ou là 00:28:024 (3) - par rapport à la head de 00:27:357 (1) - bref c'est pas vital mais voilà quoi

Last edited by [ IWeenox ] 2017-08-09T15:14:51+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-08-09T15:13:59+00:00

[ IWeenox ] wrote:
normal
[]ça serait peut-être mieux si tu mettais un circle sur le red tick après ça 00:26:190 (4) - et positionné sur la head de 00:26:691 (6) - (pour chaque patterns qui le font)
ex:
[]tu loupes un son important ici 00:34:690 (6) -

no changes, car j'suis obligé de simplifier car low diff

Ovoui

995 posts

Joined January 2013

Ovoui 2017-08-09T15:27:02+00:00

[Normal]

00:34:191 (4,5) - stack les
01:18:024 (1) - fais un slider 1/1
01:27:357 (4) - fais un reverse 1/2 au lieu d'un d'un slideer 1/1

Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-08-09T15:27:41+00:00

Ovoui wrote:
[Normal]

00:34:191 (4,5) - stack les
01:18:024 (1) - fais un slider 1/1
01:27:357 (4) - fais un reverse 1/2 au lieu d'un d'un slideer 1/1

fixed all merci !

Wormi

200 posts

Joined November 2014

Wormi 2017-08-09T18:15:51+00:00

[Easy]
00:17:024 (2,3) - 00:55:524 (4,5) - AiMod demande de fix le spacing
00:19:358 (1) - copie le slider (4) d'avant, scale x0.7 et ctrl+h pour remplacer celui la, histoire d'avoir la meme courbe
01:31:357 (1) - same ici^
00:25:691 (2,1) - fix blanket
01:06:191 (3,1) - enleve le repeat et fait un plus long slider plutot histoire d'eviter le gap 1/2 avec le cercle

[Normal]
Le spacing en dessous de 1.0x sur une normal c cancer aaaaaaa

00:06:357 (2) - stack pas ça sous un slider sur une normal c'est dur a read en plus ça nique le DS
01:20:357 - met un slider 1/2 ici plutot
01:26:524 - on s'attend plus à avoir une note ici pour suivre les vocals , genre met le slider (2) ici ou met un cercle

[Kyunada]
00:26:190 - j'ai pas compris le spacing aussi petit sur toute cette section??
00:28:357 (1) - je trouve ça bof de stack ce slider là on s'attend a plus de mouvement
00:42:690 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - c'est cancer a read un peu avec ce spacing
00:46:024 - toute cette partie full cercles jpp
00:51:190 (1,2,3) - le spacing pls
01:23:024 (1,1) - offstack

01:36:690 (1) - niec slider!!!

[Naotoshi]
00:00:108 (1) - I dont really like objects before the red line, some BNs may not like it too, also this spinner seems a bit short
00:31:691 (5,7) - 00:37:024 (5,7) - 00:39:691 (5,7) - you may want to polish the curves so its transition is better
01:14:357 (2,3,4,6) - that triangle is not perfect

pourquoi j'ai ecrit en anglais ici au final c'est kyuukai qui va apply lmao

Wormi

200 posts

Joined November 2014

Wormi 2017-08-09T18:34:34+00:00

ShogunMoon wrote:
Hard
00:54:024 (1,4) - contact fix
01:15:357 (1,2) - unstack les, pour emphasis les drums fix
bye

[ IWeenox ] wrote:
le blanket pourrait être légèrement mieux fait 00:10:857 (6) - fix

update

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Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,089 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-08-09T18:48:48+00:00

Kyuukai will fix whatever he sees fit for me. One request: don't fuck up the stacked 1/1 and 1/2 slider patterns those took rly long to make.

Also for the love of God don't speedrank this and get yourself absolute souled

Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-08-09T19:30:09+00:00

FUCK I ACCIDENTALY GAVE A KUDO TO WORMI 2 TIMES DDD:

Naotoshi wrote:
Kyuukai will fix whatever he sees fit for me. One request: don't fuck up the stacked 1/1 and 1/2 slider patterns those took rly long to make.

Also for the love of God don't speedrank this and get yourself absolute souled

yes sir

Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-08-09T19:50:33+00:00

Worminators wrote:
[Easy]
00:17:024 (2,3) - 00:55:524 (4,5) - AiMod demande de fix le spacing
00:19:358 (1) - copie le slider (4) d'avant, scale x0.7 et ctrl+h pour remplacer celui la, histoire d'avoir la meme courbe
01:31:357 (1) - same ici^
00:25:691 (2,1) - fix blanket
01:06:191 (3,1) - enleve le repeat et fait un plus long slider plutot histoire d'eviter le gap 1/2 avec le cercle
Tout fix
[Normal]
Le spacing en dessous de 1.0x sur une normal c cancer aaaaaaa

00:06:357 (2) - stack pas ça sous un slider sur une normal c'est dur a read en plus ça nique le DS
01:20:357 - met un slider 1/2 ici plutot je mets 2 sliders 1/2 pour transitionner avec un son intense
01:26:524 - on s'attend plus à avoir une note ici pour suivre les vocals , genre met le slider (2) ici ou met un cercle C'est weird tbh xd

[Kyunada]
00:46:024 - toute cette partie full cercles jpp tkt
00:51:190 (1,2,3) - le spacing pls
01:23:024 (1,1) - offstack
tout fixed
01:36:690 (1) - niec slider!!! Merci !!! Je l'ai beaucoup travaillé ca fait plaisir !!

[Naotoshi]
00:00:108 (1) - I dont really like objects before the red line, some BNs may not like it too, also this spinner seems a bit short
00:31:691 (5,7) - 00:37:024 (5,7) - 00:39:691 (5,7) - you may want to polish the curves so its transition is better
01:14:357 (2,3,4,6) - that triangle is not perfect
all fixed
pourquoi j'ai ecrit en anglais ici au final c'est kyuukai qui va apply lmao

mrci mon frr pour le mod t le meyeur <3

Linada

992 posts

Joined November 2014

Linada 2017-08-09T19:57:18+00:00

Worminators wrote:
[Kyunada]
00:26:190 - j'ai pas compris le spacing aussi petit sur toute cette section??
00:28:357 (1) - je trouve ça bof de stack ce slider là on s'attend a plus de mouvement
00:42:690 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - c'est cancer a read un peu avec ce spacing

tout fixééée

boite

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Shii

379 posts

Joined October 2016

Shii 2017-08-10T11:39:38+00:00

Bonjour! Je ne suis francais pas

This will be an English mod, sorry if it's hard to understand, I'll keep it as simple as possible

Nao's Insane

Sorry Naotoshi, don't hate me <3
00:14:358 (2) - Move slider end to the left. This is more of a preference thing, but I think it works better than having the slider point to the right.
00:20:857 (2) - I would have moved this a bit further down to further emphasize the change in vocals. You do this more with 00:21:191 (3) , but this creates more emphasis from 00:20:691 (1) .
00:31:024 (4) - Not a huge fan of this slider's shape, and how much it comes downwards. Yes this kind of stuff is done in ranked maps, but I think it looks a but messy. That and there's no significant change in the music to map the shape to, unless it's meant to emphasize the subtle bit.
00:33:691 (3) - Also not entirely certain on this sliders shape. I hear the bit where the end is mapped to better this time though, so I haven't got any real complaints with this.
00:36:357 (4) - Is the end of this slider mapped to the quietening of the music? Since there's no real change in the guitar or piano(?) for this bit.
01:06:857 (3,4,1,2) - Not a fan of the shape of the stream in this bit here. I would have thought that a simple change in flow on each beat would have worked just as well here, rather than this strange shape. Explain away if I'm wrong.
01:36:691 (1) - Would have thought you would have just mapped the end of the vocals, and then put this kind of slider 01:39:357 instead.

I see some really nicely done patterns here, and good use of slider shape, especially when you reuse the same slider shape for part of a longer slider.
The kiai parts at the end might have just been better as one big one, since the brief moments without the kiai don't really add to the experience that much with the skins I use - still an interesting idea though!

cereal's Arrogance

00:01:690 (4) - Very specific here, but i'd move 00:01:690 (4) just a little bit to around 286,222. This just plays nicer coming from the previous slider, as you don't actually have to change your motion that much, just the direction of motion.
00:03:357 (1) - I would have separated this from 00:03:690 (2) to give more emphasis to it, as it is the only somewhat important note at this part of the track.
00:22:024 (1,1) - Surprised these weren't mapped into one long slider with a low slider velocity. Is it to match up with all the other difficulties?
00:36:357 (4) - Not a fan at how far to the right this is.
00:37:857 (5) - How far do you want to go off the field? This might be rankable, but i find it a bit uncomfortable to play at that height. I would have moved it down a bit and further to the right.
00:38:524 (2) - Fine with this one since I can't see any real alternative bar moving it down to the left a bit.

Can't really think of much which is wrong with this one. I just think the spacing might need toning down a bit in some areas, and that the positioning of some of the notes on the edges of the editor area should probably be reconsidered.

Sorry if these mods aren't really that much of a help

Not as good at modding this kind of stuff.
Good luck with getting this ranked or whatever! If you need any help in the future, feel free to post on my queue again, or to pm me ingame or on the forums.

Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-08-10T13:42:15+00:00

I'm replying for Nao, he's too busy atm xd
no reply = fixed

ShiiTsuin wrote:
Bonjour! Je ne suis francais pas
This will be an English mod, sorry if it's hard to understand, I'll keep it as simple as possible
Nao's Insane
Sorry Naotoshi, don't hate me <3
00:14:358 (2) - Move slider end to the left. This is more of a preference thing, but I think it works better than having the slider point to the right. Doesn't flow really good
00:20:857 (2) - I would have moved this a bit further down to further emphasize the change in vocals. You do this more with 00:21:191 (3) , but this creates more emphasis from 00:20:691 (1) . There's nothing to emphasize on the 1, sound intensity remains the same
00:31:024 (4) - Not a huge fan of this slider's shape, and how much it comes downwards. Yes this kind of stuff is done in ranked maps, but I think it looks a but messy. That and there's no significant change in the music to map the shape to, unless it's meant to emphasize the subtle bit. follows the guitar's tone
00:33:691 (3) - Also not entirely certain on this sliders shape. I hear the bit where the end is mapped to better this time though, so I haven't got any real complaints with this. ^
00:36:357 (4) - Is the end of this slider mapped to the quietening of the music? Since there's no real change in the guitar or piano(?) for this bit. ^
01:06:857 (3,4,1,2) - Not a fan of the shape of the stream in this bit here. I would have thought that a simple change in flow on each beat would have worked just as well here, rather than this strange shape. Explain away if I'm wrong. Both doesn't have the same sound intensity, the 1st stream has a more intense sound than the 2nd one, and the 2nd stream's volume decreases. Hitsounding is different on both streams to represent that
01:36:691 (1) - Would have thought you would have just mapped the end of the vocals, and then put this kind of slider 01:39:357 instead. well it finishes the song I don't know what's wrong in that xd

I see some really nicely done patterns here, and good use of slider shape, especially when you reuse the same slider shape for part of a longer slider.
The kiai parts at the end might have just been better as one big one, since the brief moments without the kiai don't really add to the experience that much with the skins I use - still an interesting idea though!

Sorry if these mods aren't really that much of a help Not as good at modding this kind of stuff.
Good luck with getting this ranked or whatever! If you need any help in the future, feel free to post on my queue again, or to pm me ingame or on the forums.

Thanks for modding and your support !
Trying to mod is better than a full NC/Blanket mod

Petal

Nomination Assessment Team

1,170 posts

Joined November 2015

Petal 2017-08-10T22:22:57+00:00

o/

SPOILER

arrogance

00:21:191 (3) - NC (SV change)

00:50:024 (1) - I think this is better if the reverse slider gets on the white tick here 00:50:357 -

SPOILER

Insane

00:02:857 (3) - This could be extended to the red tick

00:08:191 (4) - just like how you did here ^

00:10:024 (1) - no need NC

Good map xd

UniqueBlock11

195 posts

Joined August 2014

UniqueBlock11 2017-08-10T22:38:49+00:00

Hello, from my queue. This was being edited while - Matha - posted their mod, so my mod may conflict with theirs.

note: everything marked with a * is just a comment.

general
Change CS on Kyunada's Insane to 4 for conventional purposes.
Change OD on Kyunada's Insane to 8 for same reason.

Add 'cereal', 'Kyunada', 'Nao', 'Psiovoui', and 'Wormi' to tags.

psiovoui's easy
Looks clean.

normal
00:01:857 - Add a circle here, since you're mapping to the vocals near the start it doesn't make sense to just skip some.
00:04:524 - ^
00:09:357 (3) - Perhaps change this to a single 1/2 repeat slider to emphasize the vocals and make a neat rhythm at the same time.
00:12:524 - Add a circle here, you've skipped a vocal line.
00:15:190 - ^
00:26:190 (4,5) - This rhythm just sounds awkward, especially (4), since there is a drum that sounds at 00:26:024 which you ignored. Following this rhythm would feel better:

00:28:857 (4,5) - Same as above, but only change (4) and not (5), since there's no extra note after the slider end.
00:31:357 (4,5) - Same as above, change both (4) and (5) here.
00:36:857 (4,5) - *Don't change this rhythm or anything else ahead of it since now it sounds correct the way it is.
00:46:024 (1) - Using a rhythm like the below would allow you to emphasize the vocals and still leave room to add in drum hitsounds.

00:48:691 (1) - Consider doing something similar with this rhythm and other similar rhythms forward like the above so the vocals get emphasized.

wormi's hard
To avoid having to use rhythms that contain sliders and overlap each other repeatedly, try to use abnormal distance snapping to remove the overlap, increase the difficulty, and perhaps make the map more fun to play.

00:00:691 (1,2,3,4,5) - Why does this combo not emphasize the vocals but the next couple of combos do? Use this rhythm to emphasize the vocals while retaining the difficulty of your map:

00:35:357 (1,2) - Blanket these for appeal, then move 00:36:024 (3) somewhere to retain the difficulty.
00:51:357 (1) - Some players may not expect this slider so early since 00:50:857 (4,5), the two evenly spaced notes right behind, emphasize the vocals, and this slider unexpectedly starts on the drums instead of the vocals. Try this rhythm instead:

This will surprise fewer players and make the map more intuitive.
00:54:690 (3) - This slider is inconsistent, the vocals are on each 1/2 tick but this slider is 1/1, unlike the other sliders near it. Change it to a single 1/2 repeat slider for consistency.

kyunada's insane
00:02:774 - Unused inherited timing point.
00:10:774 - ^
00:13:440 - ^
00:22:690 - The long drawn sound starts here, so start the spinner here, not 00:22:690 (1).
00:28:190 - Add a circle or add a repeat on 00:27:857 (2), as it seems as if you're missing a sound here. You did something similar at 00:25:524 (3).
00:38:857 - ^, or add repeat on 00:38:524 (2) for the same reason.
00:46:024 (1,2) - This part with only circles is so neat, but even though I can usually do well on 4* maps, it kind of feels unreadable. I had to play this section twice to get the rhythm down. Maybe add in the occasional slider whenever the singer switches verses in the lyrics, just to improve readability.
01:36:690 (1) - *love you sir

nao's insane
00:02:774 - Unused inherited timing point.
00:10:774 - ^
00:13:440 - ^
00:09:357 (3,4) - Reverse this rhythm since the repeating slider belongs with the vocals, and the circle can support itself. (why did that sound like a food bank advertisment)
00:29:024 (3,5) - *you are so mean!
01:17:191 (1,2,3,4,5) - Some of these have whistle hitsounds, is that intentional? Doesn't sound correct with them on.
01:36:691 (1) - Be careful with this slider, as it's not that obvious that it overlaps itself.

cereal's arrogance
00:50:024 (1) - This rhythm should work better:

In the scrnshot above, (1) starts on the vocals and ends on the drum, which I want to be emphasized (you didn't emphasize this with your 1/8 slider). (2) also starts on the vocals and ends on the drum. With this rhythm you can emphasize almost everything important at once without sacrificing the rhythm.
01:08:024 (2) - Add NC for consistency.

Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-08-10T22:50:48+00:00

- Matha - wrote:
SPOILER
Insane

00:02:857 (3) - This could be extended to the red tick follows the piano

00:08:191 (4) - just like how you did here ^

00:10:024 (1) - no need NC NC'd every 1/1 measure xd

Good map xd

UniqueBlock11 wrote:
Hello, from my queue. This was being edited while - Matha - posted their mod, so my mod may conflict with theirs.

note: everything marked with a * is just a comment.

general
Change CS on Kyunada's Insane to 4 for conventional purposes. ?
Change OD on Kyunada's Insane to 8 for same reason. ?

Add 'cereal', 'Kyunada', 'Nao', 'Psiovoui', and 'Wormi' to tags. No need to, all usernames are already added

normal
00:01:857 - Add a circle here, since you're mapping to the vocals near the start it doesn't make sense to just skip some.
00:04:524 - ^
00:09:357 (3) - Perhaps change this to a single 1/2 repeat slider to emphasize the vocals and make a neat rhythm at the same time.
00:12:524 - Add a circle here, you've skipped a vocal line.
00:15:190 - ^
00:26:190 (4,5) - This rhythm just sounds awkward, especially (4), since there is a drum that sounds at 00:26:024 which you ignored. Following this rhythm would feel better:

00:28:857 (4,5) - Same as above, but only change (4) and not (5), since there's no extra note after the slider end.
00:31:357 (4,5) - Same as above, change both (4) and (5) here.
00:36:857 (4,5) - *Don't change this rhythm or anything else ahead of it since now it sounds correct the way it is.
00:46:024 (1) - Using a rhythm like the below would allow you to emphasize the vocals and still leave room to add in drum hitsounds.

00:48:691 (1) - Consider doing something similar with this rhythm and other similar rhythms forward like the above so the vocals get emphasized.
no changes, I have to simplify the map since it's a Normal diff

kyunada's insane
00:02:774 - Unused inherited timing point.
00:10:774 - ^
00:13:440 - ^ no need to delete them, they come from hitsound copying
00:22:690 - The long drawn sound starts here, so start the spinner here, not 00:22:690 (1). actually, it follows the guitar
00:28:190 - Add a circle or add a repeat on 00:27:857 (2), as it seems as if you're missing a sound here. You did something similar at 00:25:524 (3).
00:38:857 - ^, or add repeat on 00:38:524 (2) for the same reason.
00:46:024 (1,2) - This part with only circles is so neat, but even though I can usually do well on 4* maps, it kind of feels unreadable. I had to play this section twice to get the rhythm down. Maybe add in the occasional slider whenever the singer switches verses in the lyrics, just to improve readability. I don't get what's unreadable right here lol, it's just plain hexgrid mapping
01:36:690 (1) - *love you sir love u too

nao's insane
00:02:774 - Unused inherited timing point.
00:10:774 - ^
00:13:440 - ^ no need to delete them, they come from hitsound copying
00:09:357 (3,4) - Reverse this rhythm since the repeating slider belongs with the vocals, and the circle can support itself. (why did that sound like a food bank advertisment) no, the circle maps the most intense sound (piano right here), slider follows the vocals with the next one
00:29:024 (3,5) - *you are so mean!
01:17:191 (1,2,3,4,5) - Some of these have whistle hitsounds, is that intentional? Doesn't sound correct with them on. fixed
01:36:691 (1) - Be careful with this slider, as it's not that obvious that it overlaps itself. I don't think it's THAT hard to read lol

Thanks for modding !

UniqueBlock11

195 posts

Joined August 2014

UniqueBlock11 2017-08-10T23:15:30+00:00

Kyuukai wrote:
no need to delete them, they come from hitsound copying

Removing inherited points will increase download speed.

Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-08-10T23:17:50+00:00

UniqueBlock11 wrote:
Kyuukai wrote:
no need to delete them, they come from hitsound copying
Removing inherited points will increase download speed.

Well, ok if u insist xd

Wormi

200 posts

Joined November 2014

Wormi 2017-08-10T23:21:18+00:00

UniqueBlock11 wrote:
wormi's hard
To avoid having to use rhythms that contain sliders and overlap each other repeatedly, try to use abnormal distance snapping to remove the overlap, increase the difficulty, and perhaps make the map more fun to play. tg??

00:00:691 (1,2,3,4,5) - Why does this combo not emphasize the vocals but the next couple of combos do? Use this rhythm to emphasize the vocals while retaining the difficulty of your map: keeping like this to make a progressive difficulty since this is the very beginning of the map

00:35:357 (1,2) - Blanket these for appeal, then move 00:36:024 (3) somewhere to retain the difficulty. not worth, would kill flow a bit
00:51:357 (1) - Some players may not expect this slider so early since 00:50:857 (4,5), the two evenly spaced notes right behind, emphasize the vocals, and this slider unexpectedly starts on the drums instead of the vocals. Try this rhythm instead: not changing rythm but stack instead

This will surprise fewer players and make the map more intuitive.
00:54:690 (3) - This slider is inconsistent, the vocals are on each 1/2 tick but this slider is 1/1, unlike the other sliders near it. Change it to a single 1/2 repeat slider for consistency.. fixed

updaet

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Egotrip

92 posts

Joined May 2015

Egotrip 2017-08-10T23:23:59+00:00

General: Rien a dire de particulier, juste quelques suggestions

Kyunada's Insane

00:22:690 (1) - Je suggère que tu stoppes ton spinner ici 00:24:024 -
(Si tu décides d'appliquer ça, stream de 4 notes ici 00:24:357 - )

00:28:190 (3) - Pourquoi ne pas rajouter un circle pour dynamiser le rythme ? comme tu as pu le faire ici 00:29:857 -

00:29:357 (4) - Stack a 00:29:524 (5) - ?????

00:29:857 (6) - Stack a 00:30:024 (1) - ?????

00:38:857 - Circle ?

00:41:524 - ^

01:26:524 - Mettre un 1/2 slider ici semble une meilleure idée, du fait que ça soit le kiai time, je pense qu'il vaut éviter ce genre de vide.

Nao's Insane:

00:02:857 (3) - Essaie de l'aggrandir jusqu'ici: 00:02:857 (3) - pour mapper les vocalismes dans leur intégralitée.

00:10:857 (3) - ^

00:13:524 (3) - ^

01:12:191 (4) - CTRL + G ?

Ranked incoming =)

Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-08-10T23:29:09+00:00

Jager-kun wrote:
General: Rien a dire de particulier, juste quelques suggestions

Kyunada's Insane
00:22:690 (1) - Je suggère que tu stoppes ton spinner ici 00:24:024 -
(Si tu décides d'appliquer ça, stream de 4 notes ici 00:24:357 - ) ok pour le changement au dessus, non pour le stream xd

[box=Nao's Insane:][notice]00:02:857 (3) - Essaie de l'aggrandir jusqu'ici: 00:02:857 (3) - pour mapper les vocalismes dans leur intégralitée. mappé sur le piano

00:10:857 (3) - ^ ^

00:13:524 (3) - ^ ^

01:12:191 (4) - CTRL + G ? no, la distance entre 01:12:191 (4,1) - serait vraiment trop haute

Ranked incoming =)

mrci pour le mod mek

lazygirl

506 posts

Joined February 2016

lazygirl 2017-08-12T19:00:03+00:00

Hola!

[Psiovoui's Easy]

the map needs a bit of visual cleanup. F.ex. 00:11:357 (1) - pretty ugly imo doesn't fit with the smooth shape of the first slider either. 00:11:357 (1,2,3) - the alignment with 3 is somewhat clunky looking. 00:20:024 (2,3) - Alignment as well. Well you get the deal. Many sliders are badly aligned and a few blankets are somewhat off. Map's fine otherwise

[Normal]

01:36:690 (7) - maybe NC, nothing else to say, nice and clean diff.

[Wormi's Hard]

00:00:691 (1) - and 00:03:690 (1,2) - are inconsistent. I read your answer to UniqueBlock11, but your argument doesn't really make sense to me. Replacing 00:00:691 (1) - with a single circle and adding a slider where it ends right now is perfectly fine and easy for the beginning of the map.
00:21:190 (5) - shouldn't end on a strong sound like that, even if the vocal continues through all the way.
01:36:690 (1) - make the spacint more like 00:25:190 (2,3) - . This is more intense yet lower spacing (generally your kiai is low spacing compared to what the rest looks like)

[Kyunada's Insane]

00:21:190 (1) - not too fond of this ending on a strong sound like on the Hard diff, same with 01:36:690 (1) -
00:48:524 (1,2,3) - don't see why 3 stacks here but not here 00:50:524 (1,2,3) -

Cool diff with the perfect stacks I like it a lot

[Nao's Insane]

00:02:857 (3) - why does this end so early
00:21:357 (4) - why do you all do this lel same with 01:36:691 (1) -
00:56:691 (6) - maybe worth an NC

Good stuff :3

[cereal's Arrogance]

Why are you using a miniscule c on the diff name? Maybe capitalize it

That's all for me *away I go*

Realazy

Elite Mapper

1,004 posts

Joined June 2011

Realazy 2017-08-13T16:19:31+00:00

ShiiTsuin wrote:
00:01:690 (4) - Very specific here, but i'd move 00:01:690 (4) just a little bit to around 286,222. This just plays nicer coming from the previous slider, as you don't actually have to change your motion that much, just the direction of motion. but it literally doesn't change anything except the spacing, and even then it doesn't change anything because most people aren't going to move further to hit that
00:03:357 (1) - I would have separated this from 00:03:690 (2) to give more emphasis to it, as it is the only somewhat important note at this part of the track. i've done this for the entirety of my part in the intro, all 1/1 gaps are stacked like these and they pretty much always sound the same

- Matha - wrote:
00:50:024 (1) - I think this is better if the reverse slider gets on the white tick here 00:50:357 - the rhythm of the vocals is different here, they sound more like 3/4 (though it's not technically correct) than 1/1, so this slider follows them as closely as possible

UniqueBlock11 wrote:
00:50:024 (1) - This rhythm should work better:

In the scrnshot above, (1) starts on the vocals and ends on the drum, which I want to be emphasized (you didn't emphasize this with your 1/8 slider). (2) also starts on the vocals and ends on the drum. With this rhythm you can emphasize almost everything important at once without sacrificing the rhythm. but 2 doesn't start on the vocals actually, if i had to follow them as precisely as possible i'd have to place an object at 00:50:315 - then at 00:50:524 - which would make for some weird 7/8 + 5/8 rhythm, so the simplest alternative there is is to use 3/4, which is what i did. i don't pay nearly as much attention to the kicks as i would with the snares, so it's fine to leave them unmapped
01:08:024 (2) - Add NC for consistency. consistency with..? most of the NCs are on downbeats

lazyboy007 wrote:
Why are you using a miniscule c on the diff name? Maybe capitalize it

celerih parts

ShiiTsuin wrote:
00:22:024 (1,1) - Surprised these weren't mapped into one long slider with a low slider velocity. Is it to match up with all the other difficulties?
00:36:357 (4) - Not a fan at how far to the right this is.
00:37:857 (5) - How far do you want to go off the field? This might be rankable, but i find it a bit uncomfortable to play at that height. I would have moved it down a bit and further to the right.
00:38:524 (2) - Fine with this one since I can't see any real alternative bar moving it down to the left a bit.

- Matha - wrote:
00:21:191 (3) - NC (SV change)

Last edited by Realazy 2017-08-13T22:44:39+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Ovoui

995 posts

Joined January 2013

Ovoui 2017-08-13T22:19:16+00:00

euh balec lazyboy, personne ne la jouera cette diff, et le slider suit la musique

Wormi

200 posts

Joined November 2014

Wormi 2017-08-15T14:51:37+00:00

lazyboy007 wrote:
[Wormi's Hard]

00:00:691 (1) - and 00:03:690 (1,2) - are inconsistent. I read your answer to UniqueBlock11, but your argument doesn't really make sense to me. Replacing 00:00:691 (1) - with a single circle and adding a slider where it ends right now is perfectly fine and easy for the beginning of the map. fine, changed
00:21:190 (5) - shouldn't end on a strong sound like that, even if the vocal continues through all the way. idk it fits imo
01:36:690 (1) - make the spacint more like 00:25:190 (2,3) - . This is more intense yet lower spacing (generally your kiai is low spacing compared to what the rest looks like) fixed

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Ovoui

995 posts

Joined January 2013

Ovoui 2017-08-15T20:43:49+00:00

@lazyboy

More seriously, i think the issue you pointed out is very minor and do not change the gameplay of the diff, that's why i didn't change anything.

Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-08-16T14:21:32+00:00

no reply = fixed

lazyboy007 wrote:
Hola! hi

[Normal]

01:36:690 (7) - maybe NC, nothing else to say, nice and clean diff.
[Kyunada's Insane]

00:21:190 (1) - not too fond of this ending on a strong sound like on the Hard diff, same with 01:36:690 (1) - marks the end of a section
00:48:524 (1,2,3) - don't see why 3 stacks here but not here 00:50:524 (1,2,3) - rhythm is different on both, one features a big white tick, the other doesn't
Cool diff with the perfect stacks I like it a lot

[Nao's Insane]

00:02:857 (3) - why does this end so early piano
00:21:357 (4) - why do you all do this lel same with 01:36:691 (1) - marks the end of a section
00:56:691 (6) - maybe worth an NC NC'd all "full patterns" this one is a jump series, so no xd
Good stuff :3

[cereal's Arrogance]

Why are you using a miniscule c on the diff name? Maybe capitalize it
That's all for me *away I go*

Ty for modding

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,089 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-08-16T16:44:23+00:00

some self modding stuff

osu file format v14

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please update to this thanks!

thanks for modding, thanks for replying for me

Kurai

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Kurai 2017-08-18T14:55:52+00:00

J'en ai marre de rien faire à cause de ma fièvre donc je me suis dit pourquoi pas essayer de modder ce magnifique mapset ?

[Psiovoui's Easy]

00:00:691 (1) - it looks extremely weird to have a 6-second long slider that is ignoring both the vocals and the piano, and right after it you start having patterns following what you previously ignored. Try being consistent.
00:10:191 (3) - Following your previous hitsounding logic with 00:06:691 (3,4) - , both the head and the tail of this slider should have a whistle in order to accentuate the piano notes.
00:11:357 (1) - Same as before. I understand you tried following the piano with those angles, but as the vocals are louder than the instrumental, it's really hard to guess what those angles are here for. And to be honest, it does not really look great.
00:20:857 (3) - Why do you suddenly start following the vocals when all you've been doing before was following the instrumental. It's really important to stay consistent with what you are following when mapping an Easy. → extend this slider by 1/2.
00:25:691 (2) - Not such a good idea to end this slider on 00:26:857 - as it would suggest 00:27:190 - should be mapped as well (they go in pair rhythmically speaking). I would rather end this slider at 00:26:690 - .
00:28:357 (2) - And for the sake of consistency, I would do the same with this one.
00:31:024 (2) - ^ also, reducing those slider would let the player breath a bit more inbetween patterns.
00:34:690 (3) - I would rather you just had a circle here. Having nothing between 00:34:690 - and 00:35:357 - would result in a better emphasis of 00:35:357 (1) - 's upbeat.
00:41:691 (2) - Instead of going downward, it would be much better to have this slider go upward as it would reflect the change of pitch of the piano and would therefore transition better with 00:43:357 (1) - .
00:50:191 (4) - Since you decided to map the piano with 00:46:691 (3,4) - despite the foreground instrument being the vocals, this slider should start on 00:50:357 - as there is no piano note being played at 00:50:190 - .
01:12:691 (1,2,3,4,1) - Maybe you could try making a better pattern here as there is absolutelyzero ephasis on 01:15:357 (1) - . It's just stuck in a corner of the screen when it should be at the center!
01:23:024 (4) - Delete this note? It would let the player have a small break and it would better emphasize 01:23:357 - .
01:28:024 (3) - Make it a circle for the same reasons as above?
01:33:691 (4) - ^

[Normal]

00:30:024 (1,2,3) - In order to better reflect the piano (higher at the beginning and lower at the end), I believe you should vertically flip this pattern in order that when the low piano note is played, the cursor in going downward.
00:30:024 (1) - It is pretty disrupting not to have a circle here as you are ignoring a strong drum beat. It is much more intuitive to have one more circle here than just having nothing as it will confuse the player who may end up misclicking 00:34:857 (6) - : http://up.kuraip.net/0818H1Q447r2562.png
00:44:357 (3) - Since you are actively following the drums here, it would make more sense to end this slider at 00:44:690 - (i.e. shorten it by 1/2).
01:27:357 - Mapping this is not a good idea because there is nothing actually intelligible here. You should rather focus on the drums. This means you should map this section like this:
SPOILER
01:27:857 - However you could definitely map this as it would emphasize the drums 01:28:024 (5) - is following.

[Wormi's Hard]

00:04:690 - I believe having a whistle here would significantly improve how your pattern sound!
00:12:690 - ^
00:15:357 - ^
00:25:190 (2,3) - I don't think having a jump here makes much sense as you are usually using jumps to emphasize the piano (which does deserve emphasis as they are placed on upbeats) like for 00:26:857 (4,1) - and 00:30:024 (1) - . If you want to emphasize those strong drum beats, I would suggest you use a lower spacing than for the piano jumps (something inbetween 1,50x and 2,00x). This also goes for all the other similar jumps.
00:41:690 (4,1,2,3,4) - Not really fan of how those brown sliders overlap the blue ones. It hinders readability and it is not good-looking either.
00:42:357 (2,3,4) - I don't like how you are putting zero emphasis on 00:42:690 - when it actually is a dominant piano note. I would rather you stopped following the logic behind 00:39:524 (1,2,3,4) - and other patterns and started focusing on the piano here.
00:48:024 - You should have a circle here, ignoring a such a strong drum beat is rather disrupting here.
00:50:357 (2) - I would delete this circle in order to accentuate the drums.
00:58:524 (3) - I understand that you are silmuteanously following the vocals and the drums, but I still believe have more impact than the vocals. Therefore I would rather you mapped both 00:58:524 - and 00:58:690 - or just 00:58:690 - (but not only 00:58:524 - has it has less power than 00:58:690 - ).

[Kyunada's Insane]

00:04:690 - I believe having a whistle here would significantly improve how your pattern sound!
00:12:690 - ^
00:15:357 - ^
00:15:857 - ^
00:26:857 (5) - This slider should go in the same direction as 00:26:357 (3) - and not in the opposite one otherwise you lose all the rhythmical similarity between those drum beats.
00:27:857 (2,1) - I don't know if it's my eyes playing tricks on me again, but they are not perfectly aligned, right? xp
00:29:524 (5) - Same comment as before
00:34:690 (4,5) - You should not have a jump between those circles as if you have the spacing as for 00:34:857 (5,6,7) - , you lose all the emphasis you have on the intensity of the drums with 00:34:857 (5,6,7) - .
00:42:690 (3,4) - You should not have such a large spacing between those circles here as you are putting more emphasis on (4) that is not put on anything in particular whereas (3) has absolutely no emphasis while it is supposed to reflect this unusual high-pitched piano note.
00:46:190 (2,1) - Not really a good idea to have an anti-jump here as you have a 3,60x 1/4 jump just before. It's extremely disrupting and uncalled for.
00:46:524 (1,2) - Why the high spacing here and not between 00:47:857 (1,2,3) - which have more intensity? (especially since 00:49:190 (1,2) - doesn't have a jump either while it is rhythmically similar to this pattern).
01:00:690 (2,3,4) - Badly aligned
from 00:59:024 - to 01:07:357 - Just like in the other Insane, I don't really like how the NC are used only for aesthetical purposes.
from 00:46:024 - to 01:07:357 - I believe you should rework this section a bit. The jumps lack consistency as sometimes you've got large jumps and and sometimes at similar places you've got nothing. Sometimes the spacing is high for no reason as there is nothing to emphasize, and when there actually is something to emphasize, you just ignore it. I believe you are focusing to much on the aesthetics of your patterns which unfortunately affects the flow. I have mentioned some of those issues above so I'll assume you understand what I'm talking about, if you don't, don't hesitate to ask me on Discord.
01:36:690 (1) - It would make much more sense to start this slider on the right side of the screen so that you have a V with 01:36:024 (1,2,3,4,1) - .

[Nao's Insane]

00:24:691 (1) - It's not perfectly aligned
Why is the spacing between 00:34:691 (1,2) - higher than between 00:34:857 (2,3) - when the drum intensity is actually lower? Spacing between 00:34:857 (2,3) - should be the same as between 00:35:024 (3,4) - in my opinion.
00:56:524 (5) - I think the spacing after this circle should be higher than before it in order to emphasize the cymbals better on (6).
01:06:941 (4,1) - Why is the spacing higher here but not with 01:07:274 (4,1) - ?
from 00:59:024 - to 01:07:357 - Just like in the other Insane, I don't really like how the NC are used only for aesthetical purposes.
01:07:357 - this section is not hitsounded
01:36:690 (1) - I would rather you had a spinner here as it is the only difficulty without any.

[cereal's Arrogance]

01:07:357 - this section is not hitsounded
C'est quoi cette diff mdr

Didn't spend much time on the two last difficulties because tired. I'll develop more if I ever recheck this, but as for now, I believe you should get more mods before trying to rank this set.

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,089 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-08-18T15:07:39+00:00

I will respond and apply when i get home. Possibly today or tomorrow.

Kurai wrote:
J'en ai marre de rien faire à cause de ma fièvre donc je me suis dit pourquoi pas essayer de modder ce magnifique mapset ?

[Nao's Insane]
00:24:691 (1) - It's not perfectly aligned recreated the pattern properly
Why is the spacing between 00:34:691 (1,2) - higher than between 00:34:857 (2,3) - when the drum intensity is actually lower? Spacing between 00:34:857 (2,3) - should be the same as between 00:35:024 (3,4) - in my opinion. adjusted
00:56:524 (5) - I think the spacing after this circle should be higher than before it in order to emphasize the cymbals better on (6). adjusted
01:06:941 (4,1) - Why is the spacing higher here but not with 01:07:274 (4,1) - ? created a visual separation
from 00:59:024 - to 01:07:357 - Just like in the other Insane, I don't really like how the NC are used only for aesthetical purposes. the NCs are used here to denote 1/1 gaps vs 1/2 gaps. since the rhythm changes between 1/2 and 1/1 very often, and i used spacing emphasis for the patterns (meaning that spacing cannot be used to determine 1/1 vs 1/2 snapping), denoting each 1/1 gap with an NC is my way of making it simpler for the player to figure out which is 1/1 and which is 1/2 gap.
01:07:357 - this section is not hitsounded added some default soft whistles to highlight vocals and offbeat rhythms. using the drum hitsounding seems a bit too loud for this part for me, hopefully this will suffice.
01:36:690 (1) - I would rather you had a spinner here as it is the only difficulty without any. i don't like spinners much. i prefer a slider,
but a spinner would fit here. if you insist, a spinner can be placed.
also i remapped the intro cuz it was way too dense lmao

[cereal's Arrogance]
01:07:357 - this section is not hitsounded
C'est quoi cette diff mdr
Didn't spend much time on the two last difficulties because tired. I'll develop more if I ever recheck this, but as for now, I believe you should get more mods before trying to rank this set.

thanks!
https://pastebin.com/raw/wLdrshhJ

additionally, a mod for celerih and real (i didnt distinguish between parts cuz lazy, sorry)

[arrogance]
00:06:024 (1,4) - these kinds of things suck for rhythm imo. your rhythm elsewhere is purely vocal based; you have no business switching off of vocals to map piano notes, no matter how loud they are (in the case on 1) and on 4 you end up ignoring a vocal hold to switch to some fairly minor pianos as well. you'd be betteer off making a 1/1 slider at 00:06:690 - anyway

this intro part is way too dense. compare it to the kiai, it has very similar rhythm density... (i noticed this on my diff too, so i reduced the density a lot. you may want to do something similar.)

00:21:357 - imo a click here would make sense since there's another "syllable" enunciated

00:31:524 (1,2) - plz ctrl g, there's nothing on this red tick at 00:31:857 - ...

00:32:357 (4) - same here, nothing noticable so having a stack there seems weird; a slider on 00:32:190 (3) - makes more sense

00:34:857 (1,2,3) - these 3 notes are much more prominent in the song, but due to your absurdly high base spacing the only emphasis they have is the nc and direction change; you should space them out more.

00:36:857 (1,2) - ctrl g
all these need to be ctrl g'd, it makes no sense to have this loud drum hit on a slider end and then a click on nothing.

00:46:024 - this section is very messy rhythm wise.
00:46:024 (1,2,3,4) - this stuff sets up the idea that you'll be following vocals (which is fine, if a bit damaging to contrast imo)
but then you get 00:48:524 (6,1,2) - which switches entirely to drums and skips the vocal hold. similarly 00:49:024 (3) - should therefore be 2 circles and 00:51:190 (4,1) - should be a slider.

00:50:024 (1) - dude the vocal's on the white tick looool

00:56:690 (1) - this section is much better about it, good job!
however some of your visual spacing looks a bit weird:
00:58:357 (3,4,5) - could be more evenly spaced

01:00:024 (3,4,3) - same

01:03:690 (2,4,1) - same

01:07:023 (5) - a was to distinguish these 4 as different could be cool (maybe im biased cuz i did something there tho)

01:09:190 (3,4) - 1/1 slider fits a bit better with the vocal hold, or 3/4

01:11:190 (1,2) - same

01:17:690 (3,2) - overlap... plz...

01:21:524 (2,3) - wtf is this fullscreen jump following? you have a 1/1 repeat on the two important vocals, i suggest you break that up and put jumps on those instead of on random filler things that are not in the song >.>

01:22:357 (2,3,4) - wouldn't ctrl g on this rhythm fit the vocals much better?

the 2nd half of the kiai is significantly easier than the first. without the first half, the SR is 4.92. to be honest, personally, i think the 2nd kiai's spacing is a bit better; there was more spacing contrast, due to overall lower base spacing. i suggest nerfing the first half to be less of a diff spike, and bring the sr down to around 5, then it would be possible to diversify the spacing more.

Last edited by Nao Tomori 2017-08-18T23:50:50+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-08-18T18:01:27+00:00

Kurai wrote:
J'en ai marre de rien faire à cause de ma fièvre donc je me suis dit pourquoi pas essayer de modder ce magnifique mapset ?
[Normal]
00:30:024 (1,2,3) - In order to better reflect the piano (higher at the beginning and lower at the end), I believe you should vertically flip this pattern in order that when the low piano note is played, the cursor in going downward.
00:30:024 (1) - It is pretty disrupting not to have a circle here as you are ignoring a strong drum beat. It is much more intuitive to have one more circle here than just having nothing as it will confuse the player who may end up misclicking 00:34:857 (6) - : http://up.kuraip.net/0818H1Q447r2562.png
00:44:357 (3) - Since you are actively following the drums here, it would make more sense to end this slider at 00:44:690 - (i.e. shorten it by 1/2).
01:27:357 - Mapping this is not a good idea because there is nothing actually intelligible here. You should rather focus on the drums. This means you should map this section like this:
SPOILER
01:27:857 - However you could definitely map this as it would emphasize the drums 01:28:024 (5) - is following.
[Kyunada's Insane]
00:04:690 - I believe having a whistle here would significantly improve how your pattern sound!
00:12:690 - ^
00:15:357 - ^
00:15:857 - ^
01:00:690 (2,3,4) - Badly aligned
from 00:59:024 - to 01:07:357 - Just like in the other Insane, I don't really like how the NC are used only for aesthetical purposes.
from 00:46:024 - to 01:07:357 - I believe you should rework this section a bit. The jumps lack consistency as sometimes you've got large jumps and and sometimes at similar places you've got nothing. Sometimes the spacing is high for no reason as there is nothing to emphasize, and when there actually is something to emphasize, you just ignore it. I believe you are focusing to much on the aesthetics of your patterns which unfortunately affects the flow. I have mentioned some of those issues above so I'll assume you understand what I'm talking about, if you don't, don't hesitate to ask me on Discord.
01:36:690 (1) - It would make much more sense to start this slider on the right side of the screen so that you have a V with 01:36:024 (1,2,3,4,1) - .
Didn't spend much time on the two last difficulties because tired. I'll develop more if I ever recheck this, but as for now, I believe you should get more mods before trying to rank this set.

all fixed
Fixed hitsounding for all diffs

Realazy

Elite Mapper

1,004 posts

Joined June 2011

Realazy 2017-08-19T23:04:14+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[arrogance]

01:00:024 (3,4,3) - same this one bugs me because i think it looks fine as is? fixed the other visual distance things though

01:07:023 (5) - a was to distinguish these 4 as different could be cool (maybe im biased cuz i did something there tho) yea i guess it's fine as it is rn, none of the streams of this length in the map are based on 4 note patterns so it should be okay

the 2nd half of the kiai is significantly easier than the first. without the first half, the SR is 4.92. to be honest, personally, i think the 2nd kiai's spacing is a bit better; there was more spacing contrast, due to overall lower base spacing. i suggest nerfing the first half to be less of a diff spike, and bring the sr down to around 5, then it would be possible to diversify the spacing more. so i reworked some rhythms in the first part of the kiai to make it more dense as it's the climax of the song so i don't think 1/1 repeats would fit that well, and ended up buffing the second part instead because it makes it stand out more from the verse which is still pretty spaced also yolo

finally a mod where i can fix stuff!!

applied things for celerih as he is unable to reply rn

Linada

992 posts

Joined November 2014

Linada 2017-08-20T17:35:33+00:00

Kurai wrote:
[Kyunada's Insane]
00:26:857 (5) - This slider should go in the same direction as 00:26:357 (3) - and not in the opposite one otherwise you lose all the rhythmical similarity between those drum beats. tho i think it's already really similar, since it's the same movement and spacing between 2-3 and 4-5
00:27:857 (2,1) - I don't know if it's my eyes playing tricks on me again, but they are not perfectly aligned, right? xp it was pixel off, fixed
00:29:524 (5) - Same comment as before kinda changed it
00:34:690 (4,5) - You should not have a jump between those circles as if you have the spacing as for 00:34:857 (5,6,7) - , you lose all the emphasis you have on the intensity of the drums with 00:34:857 (5,6,7) - .i believe that have spacing between 4 and 5 is nice because if there is no jump between them, i'll lose all the intensity of the first snare
00:42:690 (3,4) - You should not have such a large spacing between those circles here as you are putting more emphasis on (4) that is not put on anything in particular whereas (3) has absolutely no emphasis while it is supposed to reflect this unusual high-pitched piano note. fixed

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