1. Easy (1.73 stars, 127 notes)
2. Fly Away (4.44 stars, 368 notes)
3. Hard (3.42 stars, 306 notes)
4. Normal (2.31 stars, 202 notes)

thanks to all modders!

ShiiTsuin
Joe Castle
Voli (the pic we were talking about was this one )
PotatoJet
AiDaiki
Firis Mistlud
Ohwow
kunka
timemon
DJ Lucky
cococolaco
faputa
[Miku]
Underdogs
- Matha -
Noffy
Shortthu

ShiiTsuin wrote:

I might try and mod your Hyper difficulty some point later, but I have other stuff to mod and it's pretty low difficulty, and inherently hard for me to mod.

Fly Away

00:02:644 - There's a distinct noise here which you could use for a slider leading into 00:03:333 (1) maybe. Slider points could be 00:02:644 to 00:02:989 .
00:06:092 (1) - The slider shape that you use here is rather odd. I suggest keeping it simple, and relying on the hitsound to convey the sound correctly. Also, you could get away with something like a simple bezier, rather than your squiggle.
00:08:851 (1) - slider shape is a bit uneven. It's playable, just a bit of a visual distaste.
00:09:540 (2) - Move to (268,116) if you want it to lead from the slider.
00:11:609 (1) - Once again, this is a bit of an odd slider shape where the hitsounding can do the talking instead of the shape.
00:19:885 (1) - A "2" shaped slider uwu. This shape somewhat works for the latter half of the slider, but is a bit tacky.
00:22:644 (1) - Another slider where the shape can be made simpler, as the hitsounds do a good enough job of demonstrating what the slider does visually.
00:42:644 (4,5,6,7) - Looks like you might be trying to hard to make the song difficult. You could have kept with the sliders from before, and used jumps between the sound produced here and 00:43:851 (3,4,5,6,7).
00:43:851 (3,4,5,6,7) - Another case of using jumps where they aren't entirely necessary, though
00:44:713 (1) - From here you switch to sliders again, despite that nothing has actually changed rhythmically. To solve this issue of making sure you keep the consistency whilst also not creating an uninteresting, filler rhythm, can be done by using the sliders the same way as 00:38:334 (6,7) , but instead changing the slider direction and positioning.
00:47:471 (1,2) - This should probably be more emphasized than 00:47:816 (2,3) as the music has a greater emphasis at the first two of the combo, and therefore a greater intensity is at this part than the latter.
00:48:851 (6,7,8,9) - Feels a bit too jumpy for what it should be, maybe make it into equally spaced back and forths. Unsure on how to make this play much better without using complicated sliders.
00:50:230 (1,2,3) - Spacing here is ideal compared to 00:47:471 (1,2)
00:51:609 (6,7,8,9) - Feels like the jumps should be close to identical like the notes in the soundtrack, though this is preference.
00:54:368 (6,7,8,9) - Maybe try making more rotation with this to line up with 00:55:747 (1) a bit better.
00:58:506 (1,2,3,4) - Try and make these a little bit neater, maybe by making them into more of a square shape or something along those lines.
01:00:575 (5) - Make this a linear reverse slider, since later for this section you use solely linear sliders to represent the music.
01:01:265 (1,2,3,4) - Positions of these feel a bit random.
01:03:334 (5) - Like previous, this should be a linear reverse slider to keep the consistency up for this section of the music.
01:05:747 (7) - Make into Linear slider which points into 01:06:092 (8) rather than curving into it with a bezier slider. Alternatively, you could make the middle anchorpoint for the slider into a red one by shift+left clicking on the point.
01:07:471 (1,2,3,4) - You could make this into a kick slider and readjust the stream to fit. I only suggest this because its a ~4* map and the 174bpm stream might be a bit too challenging for some players to hold for 3 seconds. The map plays fine either way, and the kick slider would increase the amount of work required, but might be a good idea to experiment with, especially with more streamy, high bpm maps in the future.
01:15:058 (1) - Weird Slider shape again. Understandable why you did this, but maybe using a different, simpler slider shape with hitsounding could work better.
01:15:920 (3,4,5) - Not a huge fan of this shape you have going on here, try to keep to recognisable patterns, and tighter angles - note that wide angles like here are harder to play (as they require two directions of motion to aim each jump) and should be used where appropriate
01:17:816 (1) - Another weirdly shaped slider, although not as bad as some of the previous.
01:23:334 (1,2,3) - Consider which notes you want to emphasize and by how much if any of them have additional focus in the track. No point just placing jumps into a sharp(ish) triangle if it doesn't really match the song that well. It also doesn't really lead into 01:23:851 (4) at all >.<
01:26:609 (5,6) - Two more pretty weirdly shaped sliders. Try not to rely on using complicated slider patterns, especially on higher slider velocities and lower SR maps/
01:30:230 (1) - Very messy slider. A wavy slider could be used here to generate the same effect.
01:33:506 (4,5) - These two sliders have very close timings but still quite a bit of spacing. Consider overlapping the sliders if it makes the map play better.
01:35:747 (1,2,3) - Should have just left these as a stack, that or you could have made them into a back and forth
01:36:265 (4,5) - Once again, the spacing and timing makes this a bit awkward to play
01:44:368 (2,3,4,5) - I like how you deal with the issue above like this. It plays quite nice and looks decent enough.
01:46:954 and 01:47:299 are lacking notes, despite there being very clear hitsounds here. You could map these as would be appropriate, or make 01:46:782 (1) and 01:47:127 (2) into linear 1/2 sliders.
01:53:506 (6) - Another weird slider. This works and is at the end, so the shape likely won't make a huge impact on gameplay.

General

Good first attempt as hitsounding, it helps with playing the maps, though you sometimes opt to rely more on slidershape rather than hitsounding (as mentioned in the Fly Away Mod).
I feel like there's maybe a bit too much emphasis at parts, but that's something you'll pick up over time

All round not a terrible first start for a map! Good luck with any future mapping endeavours, and if you need any help such as mods or playtests, feel free to pm me here, post on my mod queue again, or message me ingame

silvershell wrote:

ShiiTsuin wrote:

I might try and mod your Hyper difficulty some point later, but I have other stuff to mod and it's pretty low difficulty, and inherently hard for me to mod.

Fly Away

00:02:644 - There's a distinct noise here which you could use for a slider leading into 00:03:333 (1) maybe. Slider points could be 00:02:644 to 00:02:989 .
00:06:092 (1) - The slider shape that you use here is rather odd. I suggest keeping it simple, and relying on the hitsound to convey the sound correctly. Also, you could get away with something like a simple bezier, rather than your squiggle.
00:08:851 (1) - slider shape is a bit uneven. It's playable, just a bit of a visual distaste.
00:09:540 (2) - Move to (268,116) if you want it to lead from the slider.
00:11:609 (1) - Once again, this is a bit of an odd slider shape where the hitsounding can do the talking instead of the shape.
00:19:885 (1) - A "2" shaped slider uwu. This shape somewhat works for the latter half of the slider, but is a bit tacky.
00:22:644 (1) - Another slider where the shape can be made simpler, as the hitsounds do a good enough job of demonstrating what the slider does visually.
00:42:644 (4,5,6,7) - Looks like you might be trying to hard to make the song difficult. You could have kept with the sliders from before, and used jumps between the sound produced here and 00:43:851 (3,4,5,6,7).
00:43:851 (3,4,5,6,7) - Another case of using jumps where they aren't entirely necessary, though
00:44:713 (1) - From here you switch to sliders again, despite that nothing has actually changed rhythmically. To solve this issue of making sure you keep the consistency whilst also not creating an uninteresting, filler rhythm, can be done by using the sliders the same way as 00:38:334 (6,7) , but instead changing the slider direction and positioning.
00:47:471 (1,2) - This should probably be more emphasized than 00:47:816 (2,3) as the music has a greater emphasis at the first two of the combo, and therefore a greater intensity is at this part than the latter.
00:48:851 (6,7,8,9) - Feels a bit too jumpy for what it should be, maybe make it into equally spaced back and forths. Unsure on how to make this play much better without using complicated sliders.
00:50:230 (1,2,3) - Spacing here is ideal compared to 00:47:471 (1,2)
00:51:609 (6,7,8,9) - Feels like the jumps should be close to identical like the notes in the soundtrack, though this is preference.
00:54:368 (6,7,8,9) - Maybe try making more rotation with this to line up with 00:55:747 (1) a bit better.
00:58:506 (1,2,3,4) - Try and make these a little bit neater, maybe by making them into more of a square shape or something along those lines.
01:00:575 (5) - Make this a linear reverse slider, since later for this section you use solely linear sliders to represent the music.
01:01:265 (1,2,3,4) - Positions of these feel a bit random.
01:03:334 (5) - Like previous, this should be a linear reverse slider to keep the consistency up for this section of the music.
01:05:747 (7) - Make into Linear slider which points into 01:06:092 (8) rather than curving into it with a bezier slider. Alternatively, you could make the middle anchorpoint for the slider into a red one by shift+left clicking on the point.
01:07:471 (1,2,3,4) - You could make this into a kick slider and readjust the stream to fit. I only suggest this because its a ~4* map and the 174bpm stream might be a bit too challenging for some players to hold for 3 seconds. The map plays fine either way, and the kick slider would increase the amount of work required, but might be a good idea to experiment with, especially with more streamy, high bpm maps in the future.
01:15:058 (1) - Weird Slider shape again. Understandable why you did this, but maybe using a different, simpler slider shape with hitsounding could work better.
01:15:920 (3,4,5) - Not a huge fan of this shape you have going on here, try to keep to recognisable patterns, and tighter angles - note that wide angles like here are harder to play (as they require two directions of motion to aim each jump) and should be used where appropriate
01:17:816 (1) - Another weirdly shaped slider, although not as bad as some of the previous.
01:23:334 (1,2,3) - Consider which notes you want to emphasize and by how much if any of them have additional focus in the track. No point just placing jumps into a sharp(ish) triangle if it doesn't really match the song that well. It also doesn't really lead into 01:23:851 (4) at all >.<
01:26:609 (5,6) - Two more pretty weirdly shaped sliders. Try not to rely on using complicated slider patterns, especially on higher slider velocities and lower SR maps/
01:30:230 (1) - Very messy slider. A wavy slider could be used here to generate the same effect.
01:33:506 (4,5) - These two sliders have very close timings but still quite a bit of spacing. Consider overlapping the sliders if it makes the map play better.
01:35:747 (1,2,3) - Should have just left these as a stack, that or you could have made them into a back and forth
01:36:265 (4,5) - Once again, the spacing and timing makes this a bit awkward to play
01:44:368 (2,3,4,5) - I like how you deal with the issue above like this. It plays quite nice and looks decent enough.
01:46:954 and 01:47:299 are lacking notes, despite there being very clear hitsounds here. You could map these as would be appropriate, or make 01:46:782 (1) and 01:47:127 (2) into linear 1/2 sliders.
01:53:506 (6) - Another weird slider. This works and is at the end, so the shape likely won't make a huge impact on gameplay.

General

Good first attempt as hitsounding, it helps with playing the maps, though you sometimes opt to rely more on slidershape rather than hitsounding (as mentioned in the Fly Away Mod).
I feel like there's maybe a bit too much emphasis at parts, but that's something you'll pick up over time

All round not a terrible first start for a map! Good luck with any future mapping endeavours, and if you need any help such as mods or playtests, feel free to pm me here, post on my mod queue again, or message me ingame

ahh, thanks so much! the reason why there were so many weird sliders is cause i liked how strange they were, but i guess you're right and they don't fit in the music i also kind of gave up on hitsounding but am planning on going at it again later on. i applied pretty much everything you suggested. again, huge thanks for all the help! (ps. how do you give more than one kudosu...?)

1. 00:02:644 (1) - there are some unsnapped objects in your map, you can see that when they aren't snapped to a tick in the timeline at the top of the editor like so:
   image. Perhaps open AImod under the file menu to check more of these errors.
   
2. 00:42:961 (5,6) - There are two objects on the same tick in this place. Remove the note at 00:43:133 (6) -, it's unrankable and impossible to play xD
   
3. A short lesson on structure/spacing: Oftentimes strong sounds that start on a new measure like 00:11:581 (1) - here feel nice to the player when the spacing correlates to that strong sound in the music. Spacing these strong objects (which you already identified correctly by using NC's on those) further away from your regular patterning with a jump/harsh direction change will emphasize those sounds. In the example of 00:11:581 (1) - , we could do something like this.
   
4. Likewise, sounds that ''belong'' to each other in the music (yes it sounds a bit vague, but thats how mapping theory mostly is xD) like 00:48:306 (4,5) - , would be more accurately portrayed by grouping them together in the map as well like so. This is because right now your visual distance between these objects 00:48:133 (3,4,5) - is the same, while 00:48:478 (5) - appears much faster than 00:48:306 (4) - does, making it unpredictable to read for the player. The same goes for patterns like this 00:50:892 (3,4,5) -
   
5. Another short thing on curves/aesthetics: Sliders like 00:19:857 (1) - have very harsh/sharp curves, which usually look a bit off in shape to most people. To make these curves look smoother, we can drag the white point down, to the middle of the other two points, like this. Doing this consistently will clean up your slidershapes a lot.
   
6. 01:06:754 (1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - That was really neat, especially for in your first map. The comboing, escalation and shape are on point. Really well done ^^
   
7. Rhythm: 01:10:892 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - sometimes, such as here, I'm not exactly sure what you're following in the music. The drums have a different pattern than what you mapped here, and if you'd follow the synth you'd better be off using sliders (because they are long, held sounds) instead. Perhaps give that a thought?

Joe Castle wrote:

Hi there! Im here since you requested a mod via websiite!

Lets see what you have:

Normal

1. even tho there are some parts that actually look ok, i will link you this https://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Difficulties/osu!/Normal?locale=en. This thread will help you to know how to make a normal diff, what settings you should use and stuff like that. Also, in a normal diff, big spacings arent welcome , this means that the objects should be closer to each other

2. 00:02:644 (1,1) - do something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8798488

3. 00:03:307 (1,2,3,4) - spacing is kinda too much for just a normal, reduce it a bit more, but just a bit

4. 00:14:340 (1,2) - separate them a bit more, since they are too close

5. 00:21:926 (4,5,1) - you can make this a straight line, or make it a curve

6. 00:24:685 (4,1) - make the same thing i told you on 00:02:644 (1,1)

7. 00:36:409 (1) - you have a problem with a inherit point in that slider, you should fix it

8. after the brake, some sliders end on a blue tick, and that doesnt look quite nice on a normal diff, so please make those sliders end in the white tick

9. other problem i saw is that most of the sliders have irregular spacing between them, please fix this and give them an equal spacing.

10. 00:40:547 (3) - the second gray dot should be in the center of the slider, kinda like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8798612, also, move that slider to x316-y:72, so it flows better with 00:41:581 (5)

11. 00:47:443 (1,2,3,4) - this objects should have the same spacing between them

12. 00:51:581 (5,6) - the second slider doesnt fit well like that, please fix the curve of it and also separate it a bit more from the first slider

13. 00:57:788 (6) - do something like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8798635 it will flow better

14. 00:58:478 (1,2,3,4) - this circles doesnt have the same spacing between them, you should give them a quick look

15. 01:00:547 (1) - a curved slider doesnt fit that well, make it a line slider, and make it have the same spacing with 00:58:478 (1,2,3,4)

16. 01:06:754 (1,2) - this sliders looks very weird, try doing them like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8798712 (pay attention to the highlighted one)

17. 01:09:512 (1) - you have a problem with a inherit point here, so fix it

18. 01:09:512 from here you can put some slider in the blue tick if you want

19. you still have some problems with the spacing between the objects, but i think i told you that a lot xD

20. 01:31:581 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - fix the position of this circles so it can look like a circular chain

21.01:45:719 (2,3) - separate this objects a bit more, so they dont collide

Light Insane

1. 00:22:616 (1,2) - move the circle to x:404-y:76, so it can flow better with the slider

2. 01:19:168 (6) - this slider doesnt look good at all, please change it

3. 01:19:857 (7) - you can improve the curve of this slider moving the second gray dot a bit more down, adjusting it to make it look better

4. 01:30:202 (7) - same reason as #3

5. 01:30:892 (8) - same reason as #3 too, take a look of how i edited it https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8798917

6. 01:53:478 (12) - instead of a slider, put a circle here

7. you can improve certain parts of the song to emphatize some sounds, but its your choice

Fly Away

1. 00:06:064 (6) - try doing something like this, i think it will flow better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8798956

2. 00:08:823 (1) - it would sound better if this slider ends on the red tick

3. 00:11:581 (1) - same reason as problem #1

4. 00:19:857 (1) - fix the curve of this slider by moving and adjusting the position of the second gray dot

5. 00:19:168 (4,5,1) - give this objects the same spacing between them

6. 00:42:961 (5,6) - you placed a circle in the same time the slider ends, delete the circle

7. there are some of the maps that you should check, where the spacing is too weird, but this is just saying

8. 01:07:099 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - you should make this stream a bit more clean, so it doesnt have those weird bumps like 01:07:357 (4,1), 01:08:047 (4,1) and 01:08:823 (1,2)

9. 01:30:202 (1) - put the second gray dot in the middle of the slider, so it can flow better.

10. 01:44:340 (2,3,4) - this is not good, put the circle "4" more closer to the circle "3"

11. 01:53:478 (6) - delete the slider, put a circle instead

Voli wrote:

your avatar is really cute o.o

Hey, I saw you posted your map in my queue! Since it's your first map, rather than posting a detailed mod, I chose to go over it in a more general manner since, from my experience, that is often more helpful for new mappers than nitpicking individual errors.

[Fly Away]

1. 00:02:644 (1) - there are some unsnapped objects in your map, you can see that when they aren't snapped to a tick in the timeline at the top of the editor like so:
   image. Perhaps open AImod under the file menu to check more of these errors.
   
2. 00:42:961 (5,6) - There are two objects on the same tick in this place. Remove the note at 00:43:133 (6) -, it's unrankable and impossible to play xD
   
3. A short lesson on structure/spacing: Oftentimes strong sounds that start on a new measure like 00:11:581 (1) - here feel nice to the player when the spacing correlates to that strong sound in the music. Spacing these strong objects (which you already identified correctly by using NC's on those) further away from your regular patterning with a jump/harsh direction change will emphasize those sounds. In the example of 00:11:581 (1) - , we could do something like this.
   
4. Likewise, sounds that ''belong'' to each other in the music (yes it sounds a bit vague, but thats how mapping theory mostly is xD) like 00:48:306 (4,5) - , would be more accurately portrayed by grouping them together in the map as well like so. This is because right now your visual distance between these objects 00:48:133 (3,4,5) - is the same, while 00:48:478 (5) - appears much faster than 00:48:306 (4) - does, making it unpredictable to read for the player. The same goes for patterns like this 00:50:892 (3,4,5) -
   
5. Another short thing on curves/aesthetics: Sliders like 00:19:857 (1) - have very harsh/sharp curves, which usually look a bit off in shape to most people. To make these curves look smoother, we can drag the white point down, to the middle of the other two points, like this. Doing this consistently will clean up your slidershapes a lot.
   
6. 01:06:754 (1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - That was really neat, especially for in your first map. The comboing, escalation and shape are on point. Really well done ^^
   
7. Rhythm: 01:10:892 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - sometimes, such as here, I'm not exactly sure what you're following in the music. The drums have a different pattern than what you mapped here, and if you'd follow the synth you'd better be off using sliders (because they are long, held sounds) instead. Perhaps give that a thought?

Overall, I'm impressed this was your first attempt! You've got a lot of things going already, NC structure is mostly correct and makes sense, most of the rhythm is also on point and your stream shapes are better than my first maps could ever hope to be. Keep mapping, I think you have potential!

I hope this was a bit helpful - if you have any questions or need a bit of help, don't hesitate to throw me a pm ^^

PotatoJet wrote:

hello, sorry for late mod ;-;

General
needs an ENHII spread (you need to map hard diff and easy but if you don't want to map 'Easy' you don't have to but you at least have to have a hard difficulty.) Also, I'll mod your map as a whole rather than individual things that need to be fixed as I do with other new mappers because this helps more rather than presenting you a huge list of what you did that I suggest you need to change or is unrankable.

Normal
Change to 1/2 beat snap divisor on the top right.

This diff is good but the only thing that needs to be fixed is structure (what a lot of new mappers get wrong) and some extra polish to the map. I suggest checking other normal diffs to get a better idea of how people map normal diffs.

Light Insane
I'll mod all the diffs too xd cuz I barely said anything in Normal ^^

Ok so small sliders like 00:51:369 are really uncomfortable because they are small but if they were big, this wouldn't be a problem. I've seen a lot of new mappers do this for some reason (or maybe it's fine and only I find it uncomfortable.) Try exchanging these sliders with something more comfortable.

01:07:302 You have a lot of areas where the spacing is way too small and uncomfortable (which most of the time includes ^). It's okay to have small spacing but in these sections they aren't and it would be better if they were more spaced. If it was more spaced in this section leading to the stream, it would be more intense like the build up in the song.

Fly away
I feel like you did a good job here for a completely new mapper but has some problems from previous difficulties.

Sorry if the mod feels rushed, I haven't done any of the mods in my mod queue for some time so I'm trying to help everybody

AiDaiki wrote:

Hey,

M4M
I'm really thankful for your mod <3
I wish you good luck with your map and have fun at playing and mapping
My english is a bit bad, if u don't understand something, don't hesitate to write me

mod

Normal
The easiest difficulty should be less than 2 stars, check Ranking Criteriaah. i'll probably just map an easy later on

00:02:616 (1,1) - distance could be like here 00:08:823 (1,2) fixed
00:14:340 (1,2) - overlap is not pretty, it will confuse fixed
00:23:650 (3,4) - some space between them, they are a bit close too each other okay, i couldn't really use distance snap cause they're a little to far apart in the timeline but i tried to space them
00:36:409 (1,2,3) - should be same distance, 1 and 2 a bit close okay
00:51:581 (5,6) - ^, 5 and 6 too close okay
00:54:512 (5) - a tick too late, should start here 00:54:340 (5) dunno what happened there
00:58:478 (1,2,3,4,5) - too close, will confuse because of the same spacing before it
01:01:237 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
01:10:374 (3) - slider with multiple reverse should be avoided, check Ranking Criteriaokay vv
01:37:099 (1,2) - ^
01:39:168 (6,1) - ^
01:43:995 (3,4) - ^ there are some more, don't listed all
01:10:374 (3,4) - too close
01:46:064 (3,4,5) - ^
01:19:857 (5,2) - overlap is not prettyok

Light Insane
I think the HP Drain Rate at 8 is a bit too hard, maybe put it on 6/7, I just died because of several 100 in a row xD
I also noticed that the circles sometime put in align, some drastical changes of direction would be nice

00:03:305 (1,2) - more space between them like here 00:06:064 (1,2) fix
00:05:030 (4) - maybe NC, because of start of other melody hmm. good point, but i wanted to emphasize the downbeats because there's some nice bass on those beats.
00:07:788 (4) - ^
00:10:547 (4) - ^
00:13:650 (5) - ^
00:16:064 (7) - ^
00:19:857 (4) - ^
00:21:926 (6) - ^
01:21:926 (8) - ^
01:24:685 (7) - ^
00:12:961 (4,5) - more space between them or NC kinda hard to space, too far apart in the timeline, won't nc because ^
00:36:409 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 00:44:685 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this parts could have more spacing between them like here 00:41:926 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12), it's easier to click if they don't overlappingfixed,
01:31:581 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
00:48:133 (3,4,5,6) - 00:50:892 (3,4,5,6) - 00:56:409 (3,4,5,6) - same here, not overlap them would be easier to click, maybe using a higher Distance Spacing
01:03:995 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
01:19:168 (6,7) - too close
01:30:202 (7,8) - ^fixed fixed fixed

Fly Away
same as in light insane dff, some changes in direction would be fine,for example like shapes

00:08:823 (1,2) - maybe some space between them, don't overlap, since it's your highest diff, make it a bit harder but they go together like peas in a pod
00:10:547 (4,5) - ^
00:14:340 (1,2,3) - large disatnce 00:15:374 (3,4,5,6) - small distance, should be clearer when to click this ok
00:53:306 (2,3,4) - ^
00:06:064 (1) - instead of long slider, would be circles in triangle shape nice and harder to click fix
00:19:857 - 00:22:616 (4) - 00:11:581 (1) - ^
00:36:409 (1,2) - more spacefixed
01:00:030 (4,5) - ^
01:14:685 (7,8,1) - ^
00:37:788 (5) - NC
00:40:547 (7) - ^
01:30:202 (1,2) - too close
01:31:581 (1) to 01:53:478 (6) - the hitsound in the last part are a bit awkward haha yeah im still working on hitsounding

Firis Mistlud wrote:

m4m

[Normal]

1. Rhythms is acceptable, but the flow is quite weird, some place like 00:14:340 (1,2) - the flow is quite rough okay, made it flow better
2. 01:21:409 (2,3,4) - some DS mistake here... also, blanket not 100% sure how to blanket it and fix the DS other than just turning it off
3. 01:44:685 (6,7) - same here
   
   How to check DS distance

   1. Open AiMod
   2. Check "check distance snap"
   3. Pay attention on this part: http://puu.sh/xeJwT/60f64d8ace.jpg to see is the DS are the same

[Fly Away]

1. Overall the distance is basically fine on the intro part, there's usage of variety of DS on different rhythm gaps, such as 00:03:305 (1,2,3,4,5) - which have larger distance on 3/2 than 1/1, But it's better to have some pattern like 00:07:788 (4,5,6) - equal so it looks better aesthetically okay
2. Speaking of that part, some clear hi hat sound were ignored in some place like 00:06:754 - and 00:12:271 - But it might ruin the concept of having to make those electric sound so it's up to you okay
3. 00:36:409 - The distance are good until this part, since it started to get random and lose it's indication between a 3/4 or 1/2 rhythm gap, it's better to have them different for readability, or i should say the distance is random when the music is the same, making it's weird in structuring, for example: 00:45:719 (4,1,2,3) - have same distance but with different rhythm gap i'll go over distance
4. 00:45:202 (3) - 00:46:581 (3) - nazi, but it's too curve for me, if you say. fixed
5. 01:17:788 (1) - ewwww this curve fixed
   Aside from aesthetics and distance, this would have been a sufficient quality for a newbie map
   Light Insane is quite okay for me though, although it also suffers from aesthetics problem

Nice for first try, but not impressive enough imo, a star for your effort thanks for the star ><
good luck

Ohwow wrote:

m4m. Don't need to mod much for my map.

[Fly Away]
00:03:995 (2,3) - why the finished hitsounds changed to drum finish
00:04:685 (3) - What is this mapped to? the tick? Why isn't there one here 00:07:443 - 00:12:961 - added in those places
00:07:788 (4,5,6) - make into perfect triangle?fixed
00:08:478 (6,1) - spacing emphasis not found made it farther apart
00:08:823 (1) - Remove the finish hitsound, there's nothing there to support it. Finish HS should be at places like 00:25:374 - 00:36:409 - 00:47:443 - 00:58:478 - etc etc. removed and added
00:53:306 (2,3) - spacing looks the same as 00:53:650 (3,4) - but the they are rhythmically different in the timeline.changed
01:00:547 (5) - should jsut be two circles on the white ticks, no reason to make a repeating slider. 01:03:306 (5) - this one is okay since there's actually a sound on the red tick. actually, there is a sound on the red tick
01:03:306 (5,6,7,1) - why is the spacing here so close all of the sudden. the whole pattern is really clustered in this one spot. fixed
01:08:823 (1,2,3,4,1) - the whole stream looks nice and smooth except this part. the curvature of the stream including the slider is weird. fixed, sort of
01:15:030 - downbeats like this should be emphasized with larger spacing. 01:14:857 (8,1) - is not as spaced as this pattern before 01:13:650 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - fixed
01:21:581 (7) - the way this slider is curved creates a really bad flow with 01:21:064 (5,6,7) - fixed
01:35:029 (5,6) - Why don'y you make them symmetrical? it will look a lot better than what it is currently. okay
01:43:995 (1,2,3,4) - small spacing all of the sudden made it better
Spacing is weird in many parts, try to use spacing as a way to emphasize sounds; Louder it is, bigger the spacing. Also try to create more symmetrical patterns so the whole map structure looks cleaner. sliders like 01:52:788 (4,5) - looks randomly placed. Blankets are also a good way to make the map look cleaner and more structured.

I recommend NCing every measure, like 00:37:788 - 00:40:547 - it just becomes a long chain without any NCs like you did 00:43:306 - 00:44:685 - 00:46:064 - etc etc. NC should be consistent. okay

[Easy]
Why not make 00:02:616 (1) - a 1/1 slider? done
00:03:305 (1,2) - make this a 2/1 slider, mapping a circle every half a measure is kinda dull. Try to create some variance and follow the electric melody done
00:05:374 (4) - Can make into a 1/1 slider done
00:16:064 (1,1) - blankeeett it already is
00:24:685 (4,1) - ^ ^
00:48:823 (3) - I know you're trying to be creative with these sliders and trying to follow the melody at the same time, these sliders are really tricky for beginners and should avoid these types of wonky sliders. fixed
01:00:547 (5) - It's touching the healthbar fixed
01:08:133 (1,2,3,4) - I would just put a 3/1 slider here, there isn't any loud or distinguishable sound on the white ticks to be worthy for circles. fixed
01:09:512 - Should keep SV the same throughout the whole song, SV changes are not recommended for Easy and Normals welp. it's only a little i suppose
01:09:512 (1,3) - Slightly overlapping. gonna keep it like that
01:12:6 16 - I would stay with the 1/1 beat, you're missing out on the loud clap here.
01:21:926 (3,4) - why only 3 circles here? It feels undermapped since you're missing out on the white ticks. not consistent with 01:16:409 (2,3) -
01:24:685 (3,4) - 01:27:443 (3,4) - 01:30:202 (3,4) - ^ fixed
01:50:892 (1,2,3,4) - inconsistent spacing. Easy and Normals need to have consistent spacing to be rankable. it is

Gonan stop there, hope you find this useful. Don't give up! Gl

kunka wrote:

Hi
From my Q
General

1. I feel sense of incongruity for setting of the difficulty. The spread has large and small. Need a balanced setting. Try the following suggestions https://puu.sh/xliTx.png cool, fixed
2. Normal diff and easy diff must always use distance snap. This is documented in the create rule. For example, easy content https://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Difficulties/osu!/Easy Check every notes distance, pls. Obviously there are lots of notes that are different in distance. yeah, for some places they're too far apart in the timeline
3. If you are aiming for ranked, you have to consider the spread of the difficulty level. Perhaps, you are urged to create hard diff. ahhhh maybe. i'm kinda lazy but i guess if i have to ://

Fly Away

1. 00:37:788 (5) - You're using NC every 4 beats. So you will need nc here. fixed
2. 01:05:374 (5) - Nc is long. add nc pls fixed
3. 01:10:892 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The way to pick up sounds is not wrong. But it will get bored with a simple rhythm and placement. If you put a slider like a 01:16:409 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , it will be a fun map with good follow. fixed
4. 01:28:133 (4,5,6) - Why do I change the snap method? You used the 01:27:443 (1,2,3) - method from earlier. Incorporating a different snap in the same rhythm can cause confusion. oh i did that because the other objects were sliders, i'm actually gonna keep it
5. 01:30:719 - There is no need for a blank because there is a sound. Please add a circle. there's no circle there cause it's kind of a resting place. in the music it calms down, so the map will too
6. 01:37:099 (1,2,3,4,5) - The size of a sudden distance. It's obvious compared to a 01:31:581 (1,2,3,4,5) - . You need a good reason to increase spacing. I don't know that... fixed
7. 01:38:478 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ ^
   
   There are a lot of slider that have distorted curve. For instance 01:44:857 (4) - 01:48:133 (1,2) - I don't think they mean anything. You can make a good flow by making it to the normal curve. fixed

Light Insane

1. 00:19:168 (2,3,1) - I don't think I need overlap. And I don't feel the also need to stack. Arrangement like 00:10:202 (3,4,5) - is the best. fixed
2. 01:06:754 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This phrase has a sound in each 1/4 rhythm. If light insane, you should pick it up. try this https://puu.sh/xllb6.jpgfixed
3. 01:08:133 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - omg super stack..This kind of stack is not just about stopping the flow, but it is actually difficult for the player. I recommend that you change the spacing to a narrow stream. done
4. 01:09:512 (1,2,3) - If your rhythm until now, you should not snap like this. Perhaps if it was your snap, it would have put it this way. https://puu.sh/xllsd.jpg done like that, i changed the rest of them too
5. 01:12:271 (1,2,3,4) - ^
6. 01:17:788 (1,2,3,4) - ^ Also, you'll need a circle to a 01:17:616 -
7. 01:19:685 - add a circle, pls did it
8. 01:23:650 (3) - This is obviously wrong. Please check the rhythm ever. You should have placed notes that are always clickable in this red-tick ( 01:23:823 - ). yeah, not sure what happened there. accident, i fixed them
9. 01:27:271 (6,7,8,9) - Same reason as above. You don't ever put such a back beats. Should be a white-tick like a 01:10:892 (7,8,9,10) -
10. add a circle, pls assuming you meant 1:30:719, i'm actually gonna keep it without a circle for emphasis
11. 01:31:581 (1) - From here. The notes increase rapidly. It is corroborated that nc is getting longer. I recommend erase some notes. You will be able to maintain the rhythm by making the 2 circle to 1/2 slider. tried to have some variety rather than just all 1/2 sliders :/
    
    Same as Fly Away, and there are many distorted slider. I recommend that you change them to normal slider.

Normal

1. 01:09:512 (1) - The rise of the SV at normal diff is allowed. But the rapid rise will not be approved. In my case 1.1x is the limit. I found no good reason to set a big change over it. i made it 1.2x
2. 01:51:237 (2,1) - It's necessary to remove this overlap.k

Easy

1. 00:37:788 (1,1) - As a general rule, overlap of easy diff is not allowed. If you really want to overlap, we recommend a stack. But I rarely use also the stack. kept it cause there wasn't much overlap

Good Luck

timemon wrote:

[Fly Away]
00:02:616 (1) - why is there object before redline cus it's a pickup
this section 00:03:305 - to 00:25:374 - could use more sliders. Mapping low density is better with sliders with reverse arrows than circles, as players do not have to accurately tap the sliders which reduces the accuracy stress and makes the calm section, calm. sure, i'll add some sliders

01:09:857 (4) - slider like this too curvy, use less curve. yeah don't use those fixed

Your map is hard to read because it is impossible to tell a different gap in rhythm apart without Approach Circle. hmm. maybe... spacing?
You should try to make the patterns symmetrical too. Try Ctrl+Shift+D and play around with it. i'll look into it

1. 00:19:168 (2,3,1) - this can be more like a triangle if you move (1) down a bit
2. 00:45:374 (3,4) - this would look better if both wasn't curve so much
3. 01:06:754 (1,2,3,4) - this would look better this was like this - sorry if hard to see https://imgur.com/a/z4743
4. 01:08:823 (1,2,3,4,1) - this is curve too much imo and it doesn't really look that cool either maybe something like this https://imgur.com/a/SvIJJ

DJ Lucky wrote:

From Queue - I'm taking forever to mod these request - I am not interesting in listening to this for too long (not that I don't like it) so I only modding 1 diff

Light Insane
Mainly Suggestions and should be treated as such (just ignore if you don't like it)

1. 00:19:168 (2,3,1) - this can be more like a triangle if you move (1) down a bit done
2. 00:45:374 (3,4) - this would look better if both wasn't curve so much fixed
3. 01:06:754 (1,2,3,4) - this would look better this was like this - sorry if hard to see https://imgur.com/a/z4743 sure
4. 01:08:823 (1,2,3,4,1) - this is curve too much imo and it doesn't really look that cool either maybe something like this https://imgur.com/a/SvIJJ fixed

overall I think this diff needs more polish because I see lot of slider like this 01:16:409 (1) - that could look a bit better i'll go through and look for sliders like that

But anyways GL

cococolaco wrote:

edit: fuck i double posted

cococolaco wrote:

ur getting so many mods tf i get 0 lsakjdfalkdjh
anyways

m4m
[Fly Away]
00:03:305 (1,2,3) - inconsistent spacing oke
00:17:099 (1,2,3) - ^ ^
00:07:443 (4,5) - this has same ds as 3/2 but is 1/1 wanted to emphasize the sound
00:10:547 (4) - slider too curved it's not that curved but sure
00:18:133 (3) - can rotate so it [url]looks better[/url] rip url. i blanketed it so i hope that's what you were hoping for...
00:19:857 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - spacing is too similar so can get confusing oke
00:37:788 (1,2) - y dont u make it so 1 curves into 2 oke
so the rest of the map has inconsistent spacing and i'll just elaborate a bit: if ur mapping the same sounds with the same patterns u should have identical spacing between all of them. e.g. 00:39:168 (1,2) and 00:40:547 (1,2) have different spacing but it's the exact same thing. this doesnt mean dont make jumps to emphasize, but just to keep things consistent i think u should work on ur spacing for now and aesthetics after ok sure

the rhythm is comfortable to play tho so gj on that

[Light Insane]
00:14:340 (1) - all these sliders have different curves u should keep em the same (copy paste rotate)oke
01:31:926 (3) - ^ ^
00:24:685 (3) - these too ^
00:45:374 (3,4,5) - overlaps meh
for a 20 second kiai there is too much variety. every time 01:10:892 (1,2,3,4) plays ur mapping it differently, and sometimes in these parts as well - 01:15:030 (1). u might think it's boring when keeping it the same, but mapping's purpose is to reflect the music and the music isnt always changing so much

gl

Underdogs wrote:

as per m4m because I'm in need of kudos as well

General

1. First of all, I'll have to say you need a lot of work on the map's quality before this can be pushed for rank. But I can understand this is your beginning of your mapping career so take it slowly, or take it harshly if you want drastic changes (But let's be honest, it takes real time to improve, not just a day or two.)
2. If you didn't know, you can tune in to pishifat's mapping videos on how to properly map. After that, take his advice the next time you map yes i have seen all of them
3. Consistent rhythm is a must on lower diff (Easy diff and Normal diff). This ensures an optimal experience on this game's fundametal features : clicking circles on the music, that is done consistently
4. What is also important is flow. Or in a easier terms, cursor movement. It helps the player feel the music as they click the circles. Failing to comply this would cause serious problem in interpreting the music in whole

thx for tips

Easy

1. As per mentioned earlier. Rhythm is inconsistent. A big issue in Easy diff. Another issue is the fact that you're using syncopates (1/2 rhythm) as an active rhythm (clickable rhythm) surely causes confusion for new players. Last of all is the star rating which I think, is a bit too high for a tv size map.
2. In addition to that. I noticed that in 01:09:512 (1) - is an sv change, at which, is strictly prohibited by the mapping guidelines. So if you can fix it, then you'll be good, at least
3. 00:02:616 (1,1,2) - I am questioned with this spacing and rhythm. Because 00:02:616 (1,1) - is a normal 1/1 rhythm with a normal spacing, while 00:03:305 (1,2) - acts as the same, separated by a 1/1 tick on 00:04:340 - . I understand that there is no sound on 00:04:340 - but with the spacing like this, please fix it.
4. 00:58:478 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - Inconsistent movement usually leads to confusing flows, that questions even newbies. Either make 01:01:237 (1,2,3,4) - backtrack to 00:58:478 (1,2,3,4) - or make it a new section, which does not/overlaps a little with 00:58:478 (1,2,3,4) took out overlap
5. 01:52:961 (4) - Extend this to 01:53:478 - dunno if that'll be confusing at all but i guess it's at the end of the map so it doesn't really matter

Light Insane

1. Structure here looks unpolished. Spacing on circles and sliders are messed up, making the map a hell of a mess in aesthetic
2. 01:19:685 (2) - Remove circle. Would emphasize 01:19:857 (3) - more if no other rhythm is present. someone in a different mod told me to add one. idk what to think anymore ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
3. 01:21:926 (1,2,3,4) - First half, it's sliders, which is good. But reaching this part makes this part inconsistent as a whole. The kiai meant to be the map's hyped part, yet this kind of rhythm is filled, killing the buildup you built before the kiai. My suggestion would be adding circles on the red tick or adding a slider
4. 01:31:409 - add a circle here there actually was a circle there before but i'm gonna delete that for the same reason that you said above
5. 01:44:512 (4,5,6) - the sections before doesn't seem to have triplets, yet you add them when it's already second part of the section. Maybe add triplets from the beginning would be better? will get around to it
   

both objectively, and subjectively, I think this map needs more polishing if you decide to rank it.

good luck (m4m is actually based on your choice, you can take this as a NM because I mostly wanted the kds)i swear i would mod yours if i had time unfortunately i don't. i starred it cause i feel bad now D:

Noffy wrote:

Mod (late) better late than never
I'm amazed you found my profile the same day I made that modding section.. how even?

I think a lot of the things were mentioned in previous mods.. aa
Uhhh, i'm not sure how much of the previous ones are already applied, looking through them, so I held off on modding hard and insane.. find me in irc and we can talk about them if you want !

PM me if you need more help or anything or have questions!

[Easy]
why is this the only difficulty with different combo colors oops

Many of the general points in this apply to your upper difficulties as well.

jack1817 is incorrect. the lowest difficulty only needs to be below 2 stars. All it means if it's above 1.5 is that it will not have an Easy icon on the website.
That said, this IS pretty hard for its place in the spread. i agree, will simplify

A big part of this is that there is often inconsistent spacing, which can be confusing and difficult to read for entry-level players.
I reccomend remapping rather than anything else. It would be easier than going through and finding every offspacing and having to adjust potentially entire patterns to fix it anyways.

00:36:409 (1,2) - patterns like this are very misleading too. the visual spacing of 1 and 2 ends up very close together despite the long time gap.
http://puu.sh/xMY3i/8de248db27.jpg
It can cause a player to misread it as being played like the linked image illustrates. Try to keep your patterns more simple and straightforward.
I think it's a cool idea in general though, definitely try to implement it elsewhere in the future

00:54:340 (3) - a complex slider shape could be nicer if it was made smoother, like so

01:01:237 (1,2,3) - Similar to the above, this spacing could cause them to see it as (1,3) being 1/1 apart and clicked in that order. Someone newer tends to focus on a smaller part of the screen, so an object more out of the way like 2 is may not be noticed.
00:58:478 (1,2,3,4) - is good, it's very straightforward and the 3/2 rhythm is fairly easy to read.

01:05:374 (3,2) - Generally avoid overlaps like these unless they are meant for a specific concept or theme in the map. Having them out of nowhere like this makes it just look kind of unorganized and random.
01:35:719 (3,2) - ^

01:03:995 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - good buildup rhythm!

01:12:271 (1,2,3) - This meanwhile is ok for reading, but is a bit weird to play. http://puu.sh/xMYlu/a941b832ab.jpg the sharp angle that goes against the direction you were going in 01:11:581 (3,1,2) - puts a lot of emphasis on 01:13:306 (3) - even though it.. in my opinion, isn't that strong in the song.

01:09:512 (1) - this , 01:12:271 (1,2,3) - this, 01:20:547 (1,2) - these are really nice. I like how it introduces two easy to play forms of the rhythm before mixing them together :)))))

[Normal]
This difficulty is better about it, but still has quite a few spacing issues. Be sure to go through and double check them.


00:11:581 (1) - you have quite a few bezier sliders like this throughout normal. Normally 3-point sliders (beginning, middle, end) follow a formula that make them perfect curves. adding more points turns them into beziers. sometimes 3 point sliders behave like beziers by mistake, causing their curves to look "off"
other example: 00:17:099 (1) -
00:03:305 (1,2,3,4) - how come you mapped the soft highhats and ignored the more prominent, louder instrument that is carrying the melody at 00:05:030 - 00:05:374 - 00:05:719 -
>00:06:064 (1,2,3,4) - you mapped it here properly too, and in basically all later occurences. It's ^ that's the problem.

01:00:030 (4,1) - again, careful of needless overlaps ):

01:09:512 - The rhythm from here onwards is rather awkward. 01:10:892 - a strong downbeat here (big white tick) is mapped as a sliderend 01:09:857 (2) - this slider has a similar issue, the note it ends on is stronger than the one it starts with.
http://puu.sh/xN0qL/5a47a99a1a.jpg
I reccomend a rhythm like this to ensure that the player is clicking to the most important and noticable parts of the song. This is true for the rest of the kiai as well, though of course you can vary it as you see fit. i changed that and throughout the kiai... not sure if i made it better but i changed it...

[Insane]
00:05:719 - why the finish hitsound..? In general, maybe do your hitsounds by following the song's percussion pattern. That can help keep it simple and easy to keep track of o:

Shortthu wrote:

hello, late mod lol

Easy

1. Some part of the map is very confusing for new players because it have constant DS, you need to use constant DS in easy diff (use AI Mod for more DS error xd)
   I won't talk about DS since this line because AI Mod will help you
2. Your NC on this diff look kinda confusing, I'd recommend you to NC every 2 downbeat for all parts
3. 00:14:340 (1,1) - avoid overlap like this in lower diff, it needs to be clear
4. 00:15:374 (2,2) - this overlap is kinda meh too lol
5. 00:14:340 (1,2) - you used a reverse slider for rhythm like this before why change to this cause it was a different sound i guess? i'll change it if more ppl comment on it
6. 00:19:857 (1,2,3) - 00:22:616 (1,2,3) - why change to 3 circles this time? something like 00:06:064 (1) - would fit. Rhythm change so suddenly that new player will miss
7. 00:39:168 (1,1) - another overlap lol
8. 00:41:237 (2,1) - 404 blanket not found
9. 00:43:995 (3,4) - you can fix this blanket by remove reverse of 00:43:995 (3) - , change snap to 1/4, scroll up a bit and tada b b but...
   why would i change snap to 1/4? and i think the blanket is fine (well i actually moved it a few pixels but that's it)
   
   
10. 00:58:478 - this part have confusing rhythm for new player (like mentioned above), you can use something like 00:14:340 (1,2) - haha whut? i changed it to sliders i guess
11. 01:04:685 (2,3) - b l a n k e t
12. 01:06:754 (1,2,3,4) - I'm not recommending this on easy diff lol, I'd change 01:06:754 (1,2,3) - to a reverse slider
13. 01:13:650 (4,1) - (slight) o v e r l a p
14. 01:17:788 (1,2,3) - confusing
15. 01:31:581 (1,3) - copy one of them and paste to the other (make sure to rotate 90 degree because that's how it look now) would give more structure, btw i don't really like the shape because it look too random but... i did exactly that

Normal

1. You need to use DS for normal too, please check AI Mod
2. 00:06:064 (1) - w h a t i s t h i s t h i n g , it doesn't look like a wave slider or a straight slider, it look like both
   
   https://twitter.com/rrtyui/status/881033858598043648
3. 00:09:512 (2) - I'd remove it extend 00:08:823 (1) - to 00:08:823 (1) - rip copy and paste. i get what you mean tho
4. 00:47:443 (1,2) - 00:50:202 (1,2) - 00:52:961 (1,2) - 00:55:719 (1,2) - imo, I'd make them to a slider because those doesn't have the same sound with 00:48:133 (3,4) - (and so on), swap (keep (1,2) circle and make (3,4) slider) would be fine
5. 01:15:374 (2,3) - why not make them like the previous one?
6. 01:15:892 (3,4,5) - related to the DS issue mentioned above, this is way tooo far for a normal diff, this is a pattern for a hard diff
7. Please make kiai constant lol, no need to think more rhythm on low diff because it'd be very confusing. Forgot to mention before in easy diff but please make rhythm in the same part constant xd, might apply on higher diff too

too lazy to continue xd
I think you need to look at other people's map other than just watching pishi's video xd, you can learn from them, it's the other way to learn too.