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Charlotte

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Charlotte 2017-08-28T13:46:43+00:00

_yu68 wrote:
こんにちは :3

mod
[General]
Kantanとtoara's MuzukashiiでSVが1.40000000596046に設定されています。メモ帳から修正してください。
プレビューはフェードインのような始まり方をするので、ボーカルの始点がしっかりと聞こえるようにプレビューポイントは00:53:750 - あたりでも良いかもしれません。
各kiaiは流れや小節線を考えると01:21:164 - 02:25:716 - 03:45:164 - でそれぞれ終わらせるのがベターなように感じます。

All fixed.
[Kantan]
00:38:957 (45,46) - delete? パート前半との音圧差に対して密度が過剰に上昇している印象を受けます。
00:59:647 (73,74,75) - remove finishers? シンバルの音を考慮して、01:01:302 - この部分の強調を優先すべきだと個人的に思いました。確かにその通りなのですが、他の箇所もFinishを入れるべき音のように感じているのでno changeで
01:12:888 (94,95,96) - 02:05:854 (169,170,171) - 02:19:095 (190,191,192) - 03:18:681 (268,269,270) - ^
01:51:784 (150) - remove finisher? 音の強さや00:45:578 (54) - などを考慮するとこのfinisherは不要に感じます。
[Futsuu]
00:30:888 - add k? Kantan同様に00:34:819 - 以降との密度差を減らす意図です。
00:49:302 - add a circle? (難易度的に問題無ければ00:48:681 - も) ボーカルが似たリズムをとっている 00:42:681 - などとの一貫性を与えることでより統一感が生まれると思います。最初のタイムスタンプのみfixed
01:55:509 - (01:54:888 - ) ^
00:53:853 (106) - delete? ボーカルソロの表現・他難易度との統一のために。
00:59:647 (119,120,121,122) - remove finishers? Kantan同様の理由です。Kantanと同じく
01:12:888 (152,153,154,155) - 02:05:854 (272,273,274,275) - 02:19:095 (305,306,307,308) - 03:18:681 (431,432,433,434) -
03:23:026 (442,443) - delete + 03:23:853 (444) - move to 03:23:647 - ? ボーカルが存在しないため、初心者がリズムを理解しやすいようにシンプルなリズムで構成しても良いと思います。
[Inner Oni]
00:07:198 (27) - move to 00:07:095 - ? 静かなパートなので、複雑なリズムの使用はは控え安定感を重視しても良いかもしれません。移動させるよりかは消すかで迷っていますが今のところno chnageで
00:13:819 (64) - move to 00:13:716 - ? 00:13:716 - で鳴っているシンバル・ギターが休符にされている点に違和感を覚えます。
01:50:336 (627) - change to k? プレイしていてもclapに意識が寄るように感じます。
02:46:612 (902) - change to k? ボーカルのピッチによりマッチするように感じます。
03:24:371 - add k + 03:24:474 (1085) - change to d? 聞こえやすいドラムの音を拾うことでより演奏感を出せると思います。

ranked頑張ってください～

no comment = fixed.

davidminh0111 wrote:
Hello Charlotte, from PM mod:

[General]
Kantan and toara's Muzu have SV bugs, go to the notepad and fix the SV
It would be better if the kiai starts 00:54:681 till 01:20:336 fixed

[Kantan]
00:14:957: Should this place add Drum hitsound because strong melody fixed

00:36:888: Change to d, melody is in low pitch

00:41:440: Big D? Strong melody fixed

00:51:371: ^

00:58:819: To d? The melody is rising up?

01:06:267: The pattern too long? May remove a note? fixed
Do it for repeat section (if there is)

01:21:164: Big D

Good Kantan but use more 4/1 space

[Futsuu]
00:40:405: Better with dd k d

01:46:612: It would be better if you do dd k d

01:48:267: dd?
Do for repeat sections

Others are fine
GL

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m1kado

25 posts

Joined April 2015

m1kado 2017-09-05T06:39:04+00:00

1日遅刻しました
modします

Inner Oni

00:51:784 add d 最初にやったとき物足りない感があったのと、あったほうがリズムが取りやすいかと

01:44:853 add d 音あると思いました

02:08:957 change k 音的に
02:09:164 change d 〃

02:09:371 change k 前にあわせるため
02:09:474 change d 〃

03:40:509 change d dのほうが音はあってそうなのと後ろと合わせるため

03:40:716 change k 合わせるため
03:40:819 change d 〃

自分あんまり偶数配置置かないのでちょっとしか指摘するとこ見つけられなかったです
すみません

Ranked頑張ってください！！

Charlotte

1,905 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Charlotte 2017-09-05T08:06:52+00:00

m1kado wrote:
1日遅刻しました
modします

Inner Oni
00:51:784 add d 最初にやったとき物足りない感があったのと、あったほうがリズムが取りやすいかとリズム難ではありますが、vocal取りでいきたいので今の方があってる気がしました。変える可能性もあります。

01:44:853 add d 音あると思いました伸びてる音のように聞こえるのでno changeです。

02:08:957 change k 音的に
02:09:164 change d 〃

02:09:371 change k 前にあわせるため
02:09:474 change d 〃

03:40:509 change d dのほうが音はあってそうなのと後ろと合わせるため

03:40:716 change k 合わせるため
03:40:819 change d 〃

自分あんまり偶数配置置かないのでちょっとしか指摘するとこ見つけられなかったです
すみません

Ranked頑張ってください！！

赤字 + no comment = no change

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Y O U T A

109 posts

Joined September 2014

Y O U T A 2017-09-11T09:11:57+00:00

大遅刻しました
低難易度の知識はｳﾝﾁなのでmuzukashiiから上をmodします

[toara Muzukashii]
・00:14:129 (35,36,37,38) - と01:20:336 (268,269,270,271) - 色どっちかに統一させたいかも？

・01:30:888 (304) - 01:31:302 (306) - delete ここだけdkkkddkって変な感じしない？

・02:32:336 (525) - d? 次のd置いてる音といっしょだしなぁと思いながら

・最後03:45:578 - と03:45:991 - にノーツいれたくない？（配色は何が正解かわからんけど）ほかのdiffにもこ↑こ↓置いてあったから

[yuzurin Oni]

天才だと思った　音取りドンピシャだしなにも言うことありません！ｗ

[Inner Oni]
・01:19:922 (446) - add finisher? 割と強い音が鳴ってると思うので

・03:43:095 (1215) - シンバルの音取りたいかもです・・・

sorry for ガバガバmod です

ランクドがんばってください！

Charlotte

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Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Charlotte 2017-09-12T12:43:17+00:00

Y O U T A wrote:
大遅刻しました
低難易度の知識はｳﾝﾁなのでmuzukashiiから上をmodします

[Inner Oni]
・01:19:922 (446) - add finisher? 割と強い音が鳴ってると思うので悩んでます。仮に追加する場合は直前+対応する箇所もfinish入れようと思います。

・03:43:095 (1215) - シンバルの音取りたいかもです・・・少し浮くかなと思ったので今のところkeepで

sorry for ガバガバmod です

ランクドがんばってください！

Thanks for mods

toara_fict

1,319 posts

Joined July 2012

toara_fict 2017-09-12T15:41:07+00:00

Y O U T A wrote:
[toara Muzukashii]
・00:14:129 (35,36,37,38) - と01:20:336 (268,269,270,271) - 色どっちかに統一させたいかも？

・01:30:888 (304) - 01:31:302 (306) - delete ここだけdkkkddkって変な感じしない？

・02:32:336 (525) - d? 次のd置いてる音といっしょだしなぁと思いながら

・最後03:45:578 - と03:45:991 - にノーツいれたくない？（配色は何が正解かわからんけど）ほかのdiffにもこ↑こ↓置いてあったから　Finishで終わらせたい　このまま

空白はfix です

Muzu

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[Metadata]
Title:Shalulu
TitleUnicode:シャルル
Artist:Ballon feat. Flower
ArtistUnicode:バルーン feat. Flower
Creator:Charlotte
Version:toara's Muzukashii
Source:
Tags:Vocaloid yuzu__rinrin toara_fict
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Chromoxx

904 posts

Joined August 2012

Chromoxx 2017-09-20T04:08:01+00:00

hi, quick check

Inner Oni
looks good

yzrin's oni
- the only problem i have with the diff is the parts at 00:14:957 - and 01:21:164 - which are kinda too repetitive imo since they keep repeating the same patterns over and over (kkddd and dkd etc.), maybe find some way to bring more variety into this in a structured way?

muzukashii
00:24:267 - add a note here for consistency?
00:48:060 - this part is more dense than the parts before even though it's a slow buildup compared to the ones like 00:14:957 - which are pretty intense due to the guitar, so i'd suggest lowering the density here a bit
01:03:164 - delete and add a d at 01:03:578 - to fit the vocals better and be a bit more consistent with 01:15:991 -
01:30:888 - add a note here for consistency
02:22:612 - add a note here for consistency with 02:09:371 -
02:27:371 - this part is mapped more densely than in the oni, so i'd suggest nerfing it until it's less dense
03:05:853 - this kiai is less dense than the 2nd kiai in some parts so i'd suggest at least bringing it to the same density or making it a bit more dense since the density is progressive from the 1st to the 2nd kiai

Futsuu
- my main problem with this diff is the kiais being less intense than some of the other parts like 00:14:957 - etc. so i'd suggest buffing the kiais slightly and nerfing the other parts a little bit

Kantan
00:14:957 - density-wise these parts are more intense than the kiais so i'd suggest adding a break inbetween somewhere like deleting 00:22:405 -

looks fine otherwise

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

Joined July 2014

yuzu__rinrin 2017-09-20T11:44:52+00:00

Chromoxx wrote:
hi, quick check

yzrin's oni
- the only problem i have with the diff is the parts at 00:14:957 - and 01:21:164 - which are kinda too repetitive imo since they keep repeating the same patterns over and over (kkddd and dkd etc.), maybe find some way to bring more variety into this in a structured way?
I can agree with that.
However, these are perfect along the sound and flow.

If I can change it, change 01:22:095 - k.
By doing so, it will be the same as 01:23:647 -.

If I put the Notes on 01:22:302 - and so on.
It becomes a map which is not clear whether it is a guitar or Drum.

looks fine otherwise

Thanks Chromoxx

toara_fict

1,319 posts

Joined July 2012

toara_fict 2017-09-20T16:17:07+00:00

Chromoxx wrote:
muzukashii
00:24:267 - add a note here for consistency?　add d
00:48:060 - this part is more dense than the parts before even though it's a slow buildup compared to the ones like 00:14:957 - which are pretty intense due to the guitar, so i'd suggest lowering the density here a bit delete 00:49:095 (154,155) -
01:03:164 - delete and add a d at 01:03:578 - to fit the vocals better and be a bit more consistent with 01:15:991 - ok
01:30:888 - add a note here for consistency add k
02:22:612 - add a note here for consistency with 02:09:371 - add k
02:27:371 - this part is mapped more densely than in the oni, so i'd suggest nerfing it until it's less dense delete 02:30:474 (520) - 02:33:784 (527) - 02:37:095 (535) - 02:40:405 (543) -
03:05:853 - this kiai is less dense than the 2nd kiai in some parts so i'd suggest at least bringing it to the same density or making it a bit more dense since the density is progressive from the 1st to the 2nd kiai add 03:08:957 (620) - k 03:22:198 (672) - k 03:32:543 (713) - d 03:39:164 (736) - d

ty.

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Charlotte

1,905 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Charlotte 2017-09-20T16:57:37+00:00

Chromoxx wrote:
hi, quick check

Inner Oni
looks good

Futsuu
- my main problem with this diff is the kiais being less intense than some of the other parts like 00:14:957 - etc. so i'd suggest buffing the kiais slightly and nerfing the other parts a little bit kiai added more notes.

Kantan
00:14:957 - density-wise these parts are more intense than the kiais so i'd suggest adding a break inbetween somewhere like deleting 00:22:405 - fixed.

looks fine otherwise

Thanks for mods

Chromoxx

904 posts

Joined August 2012

Chromoxx 2017-09-21T02:12:16+00:00

the problem for yzrin's diff can be solved by simply adding some kind of 1212 variation instead of spamming the same pattern over and over, even if the music is repetitive, there are still options to map it differently if it's in a structured way. I don't see copypasting the same pattern over and over here as good mapping.

the rest looks good now, also do you have some official source for the metadata that specifies the romanised title as "Shalulu" and not "Sharuru" and the romanised artist as "Ballon" and not "Balloon", since those should be the normal romanisation.

call me back

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

Joined July 2014

yuzu__rinrin 2017-09-21T11:26:50+00:00

Chromoxx wrote:
the problem for yzrin's diff can be solved by simply adding some kind of 1212 variation instead of spamming the same pattern over and over, even if the music is repetitive, there are still options to map it differently if it's in a structured way. I don't see copypasting the same pattern over and over here as good mapping.
I changed the coloring only slightly from the first time.

If you have ideas and ideas in this part, please give me a message directly.

call me back

Thanks again.

__'s Oni

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Charlotte

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Charlotte 2017-09-21T15:14:06+00:00

updated yuzu__rinrin diff

fixed metadata

Chromoxx

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Chromoxx 2017-09-22T15:36:42+00:00

ok, confirmed metadata with kwan and added flower to the tags, should be good to go!

Surono

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Surono 2017-09-24T11:37:47+00:00

a little improving for spread balance of lower diffs and changed bg position

17:33 Charlotte: Surono hype!
17:49 Surono: :^ yes?
17:50 Charlotte: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/650733 ^^:
17:50 Surono: :^) 
17:51 Surono: ok lets see Xd
17:51 Charlotte: (>w</
17:52 Surono: set bg position of all diffs to 0,-100
17:54 Charlotte: okay.more good
17:55 Surono: 00:31:922 - add notes on kantan, futsuu has k kkd k d d k
17:57 Surono: for kantan: 00:44:750 - you may move it to 00:44:336 - here and change as kat, it fits more at layer emphasize of vocal and that clap from the song itself. 
17:58 Surono: and also for minibreak xd
17:59 Surono: 01:50:957 - same above
17:59 Charlotte: for clap?
18:00 Surono: clap sound or idk the name of that sound www X"D
18:00 Surono: 02:27:371 - add finish for kantan and futsuu
18:01 Surono: hmmm
18:01 Charlotte: 02:27:371 - hmmm strong?
18:01 Surono: from end of 2nd kiai until 03:00:474 - here, are you sure wanna leave cymbal without finisher? I recommend to add finisher them
18:02 Surono: yeh strong
18:03 Surono: but idk, its up to you XD
18:03 Surono: its for your all diffs, except GDs.
18:04 Charlotte: okay
18:09 Charlotte: all fixed.
18:31 Surono: tes
18:31 Surono: I was afk cuz had dinner xd
18:32 Surono: okay I think just it, posting~
18:34 Surono: update it

Charlotte

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Charlotte 2017-09-25T08:49:57+00:00

Surono wrote:

a little improving for spread balance of lower diffs and changed bg position

17:33 Charlotte: Surono hype!
17:49 Surono: :^ yes?
17:50 Charlotte: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/650733 ^^:
17:50 Surono: :^) 
17:51 Surono: ok lets see Xd
17:51 Charlotte: (>w</
17:52 Surono: set bg position of all diffs to 0,-100
17:54 Charlotte: okay.more good
17:55 Surono: 00:31:922 - add notes on kantan, futsuu has k kkd k d d k
17:57 Surono: for kantan: 00:44:750 - you may move it to 00:44:336 - here and change as kat, it fits more at layer emphasize of vocal and that clap from the song itself. 
17:58 Surono: and also for minibreak xd
17:59 Surono: 01:50:957 - same above
17:59 Charlotte: for clap?
18:00 Surono: clap sound or idk the name of that sound www X"D
18:00 Surono: 02:27:371 - add finish for kantan and futsuu
18:01 Surono: hmmm
18:01 Charlotte: 02:27:371 - hmmm strong?
18:01 Surono: from end of 2nd kiai until 03:00:474 - here, are you sure wanna leave cymbal without finisher? I recommend to add finisher them
18:02 Surono: yeh strong
18:03 Surono: but idk, its up to you XD
18:03 Surono: its for your all diffs, except GDs.
18:04 Charlotte: okay
18:09 Charlotte: all fixed.
18:31 Surono: tes
18:31 Surono: I was afk cuz had dinner xd
18:32 Surono: okay I think just it, posting~
18:34 Surono: update it