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wajinshu wrote:

  • [deetz]
  1. 00:18:006 (6) - drum whistle i'd rather have complete focus on the drum rhythm here
  2. 01:03:955 (8,1) - this is kinda way too much lol spacing is mostly equal to 00:22:942 (1,2) - where the gap is 1/1, even after this jump spacing is heavily decreased this harsh movement is really unkewl :|for now i won't change this, because I wanted this to feel very sudden and that's exactly what I had seemed to achieve from my playtesting. in fact, it's somewhat similar to what i did at 00:39:461 (5,1) - . however, i'll try to ask around a bit and do some more testing of my own though, to be 100% sure. i think there might be some validity in what you're saying here.
    apart from that its godlike thx u 2
posted
ametrin
00:32:436 - no the vocals in both instances r different
01:29:208 - its rly not that hard considering how everything is spaced out


wajinshu
00:19:145 (2) - if u playd the map before looking at it urd proly know why its ther (playability btw)
00:25:980 (1) - y Lol
00:37:373 (2,3,1) - y Lol
00:56:550 (1) - isnt this already stacked on 4
01:08:512 (1,2) - that wud b quite weird
01:19:145 - its jus a breath bro
01:31:297 (4,1) - its 1 jump dude,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


o yea i didnt rly change ametrins first point but i changed the part after

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Title:Natsukoi Hanabi
TitleUnicode:夏恋花火
Artist:chano & 40mP
ArtistUnicode:シャノ & 40mP
Creator:Lasse
Version:VINXIS' Insane
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Tags:Shano 40meterP Panorama Note VINXIS Bonsai deetz
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posted

Ametrin wrote:

M4M

uhhhh this bg... :thinking:

[Easy]
00:20:664 (4) - maybe stop at 00:21:044 - ? feels like you are not following the drum at this part except this slider both work but current is nicer polarity
00:24:272 - this might be clickable for the same reason some rest moments are nice for low diffs and fits transition
01:05:094 (2) - remove this? not strong enough imo are we listening to the same song lol

[Normal]
00:19:335 (3,4) - i don't think it's 00:19:904 (4) - that should be clickable... i mean maybe put two slider here or ctrl+g (just rhythm) melody
00:23:702 (6,7) - there's a sound here so maybe ctrl+g current follows drums better

[Hard]
00:22:942 (1) - i'll ctrl+g here. all point to the top kinda lose impact at here kills the whole movement concept in this part
00:39:461 (1) - sv 1.3 here seems a bit high.. shapes makes it easy and very lenient cause end is so close

[Insane]
looks nice for me but 00:13:069 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 1 pixel error lol not perfect symmetrical

sorry but deetz's Insane and Expert is really nice :o nothing to say

:)

wajinshu wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/612658
  • [Expert]
  1. 00:31:677 (4,5) - should have lesser spacing instead of 00:31:487 (3,4) - bcz vocals, its the only moment where you emphasize drum instead of vocals (00:35:474 (2,3) - 00:34:715 (4,5) - 00:36:234 (1,2) - etc.) whole map is mainly about emphasis through spacing changes in either direction and matching overall intensity, not always "stronger sound" = higher ds
  2. 00:51:423 (5) - drum + softclap fixed
  3. 00:51:613 (6) - symmetry and all, but maybe space this out a bit more? new part is coming, would be nice to have a jump here angle+spacing fits fine here
  4. 01:00:727 (1) - whistle on head fixed
  5. 01:03:575 (1,2,3) - id change the pattern here because 01:04:525 (1,2,3) - here you have the same pattern, but all 3 sounds are stronger and are strong equally, but here 01:03:765 (2,3) - these sounds are both pretty same weak. just doesnt make any sense for me tbh for this whole buildup pattern vocals get high spacing, so 01:03:955 (3) - too
  6. 01:08:322 (7) - whistle sounds nice takes away from whistle on 01:08:512 - imo, I tried to use them very carefully
  7. 01:20:474 (7) - 01:14:398 (7) - ^ same
    wait, wasnt riven's set dq'ed for the same 1-2 jumps? i mean there they were pp and here fun, but concept is still pretty the same? patterning here follows the song though as it puts low spacing on non melody/non vocal circles instead of just sharp angle jump spam lol.
    also things like 00:18:575 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - are definitely not your typical anime 1-2 jumps
  • [Insane]
  1. 00:39:461 (2) - maybe a 1/2 slider like here 00:12:120 (5) - ? whole part is mapped without any filler rhythm so overmapping one sliderend would be lol
  2. 00:59:018 (1,2) - swap ncs to catch the vocals? current fits better imo, see 00:55:980 (1,2,3) -
    cute


thats it i think, good luck!


thanks!

updated everything and replaced deetz' bg with the same in less fucked up resolution
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thanks for the detailed replies and sorry for having to put up with me being anal about a few things lol.

i'm happy enough with the mapset as it currently is, so i don't see any reason to not push it forward.
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tilted me too
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it's so tilting
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these shitposts not being nominations
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vinxis
00:04:335 (3,4) - no idea why you don't space them it's the same with 00:05:474 (6,7) -
00:09:461 (1) - delete this it doesn't follow sounds you're supposed to follow, probably
00:19:145 (2) - should skip this like the other parts
00:23:702 (3) - 1/1 slider works better with your rhythm logic
00:25:411 - ^ same since there's nothing on the red tick, like 00:30:348 - this one, i like tilting
00:25:221 - this could be clickable imo
00:27:689 (1,2) - if i'm not wrong you should swap nc here, the vocal is a new part
00:39:841 (1,2) - ^
00:44:778 (2,3) - 00:38:892 (2,3) - why are they inconsistent, personally i prefer the second one
00:51:993 - why not keep your concept in this part, it's too normal rn
01:08:512 (1,2,3) - 01:11:550 (1,2,3) - and 01:20:664 (1,2,3) - 01:23:702 (1,2) - this is the only thing i really don't like, don't go too far when you map gimmick stuff, consistency is still a basic mapping concept, you can tilt people with your rhythm or spacing but i just don't accept this. if you do this in different kiais it's acceptable tho but it's a short map
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00:04:335 (3,4) - the direction chang4e is supposed to emphasize that, the spacing in that whole aprt isnt to emphasize single accented notes anyway it plays moreso into pitch
00:19:145 - whereeelse do i skip this
00:25:601 - theres a note righte there
00:25:221 - if u meant that this is where i skip as well, let me tell u that this place is completely different because look at how the patterning is spaced out here compared to th epart at 00:19:145 -, the 1 at 19 seconds plays a huge role in pattern playability and making the section more coherent for the player, also y should that b clickable >: /
00:44:778 (2,3) - 00:38:892 (2,3) - i real;ly wouldnt cosndier those 2 parts similar at all considering the first timestamp is much more similar to 00:32:816 - and that part (referring to 00:38:892 (2,3) -) only has similarity in terms of ending a minisection and having 2 piano notes, but it shuts off much more energy than the other 2 timestamps do
00:51:993 - the whole idea is to not map drums so i think it is keeping the concept, i shortened 2 sldiers in this section tho
01:08:512 (1,2,3) - 01:11:550 (1,2,3) - and 01:20:664 (1,2,3) - 01:23:702 (1,2) - its really not gimmicky i mean its ltiaerlly just 3/4 sliders, also there are vocals at each part and they really feel like 3/4 moreso than 1/1 or 1/2 aside for 01:21:044 (2) - where there is a vocal note there

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227,156,81044,2,0,P|165:135|111:137,1,85,2|0,1:0|1:0,1:0:0:0:
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402,27,82183,1,0,0:0:0:0:
401,26,82373,6,0,P|417:66|421:108,2,85,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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woah
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i havent seen an insane with lower sr than hard qualified in a while
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00:00:348 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,1,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,1,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - remap :):):)8-):!:
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ignor ds gimmicks r rly hard to read n play but concepts k nic work
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oh
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is it just me or is the timing early, adding 5+ ms would fit better
@bonsai

also vinxis 01:21:044 (2) -
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don't think so, it might work better with the snares but most of the bass-beats would sound late then, so it seems alright to me as is
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I hope you'll answer this

00:09:272 (1,1,1,1) - why they all have NC? It makes them hard to read and don't do any sense.
00:10:791 (3,1,2,1) - what are these notes? why 3,1,2 have same distance and 1,2,1 have different distance? moreever, 00:11:550 (1) - has more quiet sound than 2, but you put in bigger space, what did you tried to express?
00:17:436 (3,4,1,2) - similar with above one. you put 1/4 and 1/2 with same distance. BUT they don't have same sound.
00:19:145 (2,1,2,1,2) - you broke your patterns. If you wanted to express piano sounds, delete NCs and put 00:20:854 (1,2,1) - in same way, didn't you?
00:23:322 (1) - 00:51:613 (6) - This part looks crude, or put without no thinking. You just followed rhythm, not music. If you did, you can explain the reason why you put each part in this way.
01:05:474 (3) - why this has such a big distance than 01:03:955 (3,3) - ?
01:25:411 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - you followed drum sounds, at least we look so. but they don't have same distance although have same sounds.

Thanks anyway.
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Urushi38 wrote:

I hope you'll answer this sure

00:09:272 (1,1,1,1) - why they all have NC? It makes them hard to read and don't do any sense. nc in that part is structured around snapping changes
00:10:791 (3,1,2,1) - what are these notes? why 3,1,2 have same distance and 1,2,1 have different distance? moreever, 00:11:550 (1) - has more quiet sound than 2, but you put in bigger space, what did you tried to express? are both snare + melody, then00:11:550 (1) - follows the increase in melody + change in drum with a drastic spacing increase
00:17:436 (3,4,1,2) - similar with above one. you put 1/4 and 1/2 with same distance. BUT they don't have same sound. idk how this is a problem, the 1/4 spacing is just part of the map design. also 00:17:721 (4,1,2) - are all snares so idk why they "don't have the same sound"???, then 3 is changing drum again
00:19:145 (2,1,2,1,2) - you broke your patterns. If you wanted to express piano sounds, delete NCs and put 00:20:854 (1,2,1) - in same way, didn't you? nc is following the kick-sanre drums, while piano notes starting from 00:19:335 (1) - (cause they don't stand out much for the 2 combos before that) get high spacing, no idea what your problem with this is
00:23:322 (1) - 00:51:613 (6) - This part looks crude, or put without no thinking. You just followed rhythm, not music. If you did, you can explain the reason why you put each part in this way. are you going to question the placement of each individual object? that's pretty pointless. the part focuses on mapping drums/melody/vocals without any filler rhyth, highlighting changes in the song through spacing changes while keeping the maps partially ambiguous 1/1 - 1/2 spacing concept and the aim+uncomfortable movement concept by using corners and high spacing 1/1 a lot. all this while utilizing some basic symmetry and visual spacing to keep objects organized.
also putting low ds on snares whenever possible (no vocal, not after slider) to highlight them with a spacing change that's not a jump, but not when it's the second snare after the low spacing one since low spacing again would lose its effect => high spacing in that case, see 00:31:487 (3,4,5,6) -

01:05:474 (3) - why this has such a big distance than 01:03:955 (3,3) - ? song builds up a lot + cymbal/ending note of the whole buildup?
01:25:411 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - you followed drum sounds, at least we look so. but they don't have same distance although have same sounds. "vocal" = big spacing, drum = "normal" spacing (except the start at 01:25:411 (1,2,1,2) - focuses on melody here to transition/work with the more held vocal), comboing is used to make the repeating kick-snare drum pattern stand out like 00:18:575 -

Thanks anyway same.
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Sadly I'm too noob to get your idea, only got you thought something.
Btw, thanks for sincere answer. Hope your map get right rate.
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