jack1817 wrote:

From my Queue,

My mod focus on the appropriacy of the notes, so for designed ones, I try to respect them. So it maybe short for you, but I promise I will point out things I think that it is not good enough.

[General]
⏩In terms of maps itself, all diffs are well polished so at this point I don’t have many thing to say. But my concern lies in the spread. Spread difference is appropriate certainly. However, now it feels like oni is nerfed to a point where it “sacrifices” the potential of what the music offers, here’s what I think, maybe you map another diff of inner oni, or you boost the spread difference. I am sure keeping like that would end up not a good set on player’s view. >I prefer not to add anymore diffs onto the set now as I don't think the song's mood fits a challenging diff.

[Muzukashii]
⏩01:07:129 - I think adding a don here should be better in terms of spread. >Retained for a necessary 2/1 break.
Nothing else to point out actually.

[Oni]
As said in general, another comment I want to point out is that, it is not healthy for a ‘hardest difficulty’ when there are so many rhythms that the music provides aren’t used.

⏩00:49:682 - For some reason I think you should not miss out the gap of this one. Maybe try ddd triple here or duplet start from 00:49:789 - . >The fxs you pointed out isn't in my mapping intention
⏩00:43:087 (35,36,37) - The beat sound at 00:43:406 (36) - quite stands up when 00:41:704 (29) -, 00:40:002 (22) -, 00:38:299 (15) - don’t have that. I think having 00:43:087 (35,36,37) - different from the previous three would be way better. In the end, colour scheme cannot completely rule over better ways of representing the music. >Yes I do agree these patterns are a bit boring, but it has to be arranged like that to make a reasonable spread with Muzukashii. I will consider that when more modders mention about that.
⏩01:19:470 (130,131,132) - Feel like this should be ddkkd, filling those gaps with k to recap the pattern at 01:07:768 (71,72,73,74,75) -, and to be better stating the intensity of the music. >The notes you highlighted is identical to 01:05:853 (63,64) - instead of those you pointed out earlier. It is done for the sake of consistency.


That’s all! Thanks for requesting
Good luck with the mapset

remii wrote:

Hello! :3

Muzukashii

00:03:512 (10) - change to d >Tend to be consistent with 00:01:810 (5) -
00:06:491 (1) - replace with K D K >The background music is so calm here that finisher can never fit.
00:16:916 (31) - remove this >I don't want to interrupt the o_oo_oo_ pattern here.
00:24:363 (4) - add finisher >The mood here is so calm, finisher cannot reflect the song's mood here.
00:55:321 (7) - change to k >It's just muzukashii
00:55:321 (7) - put this on the next tick >Next tick by what interval?
00:58:725 (20) - change to k ^^
00:58:831 (21) - put this on the next tick ^^


Oni
00:38:299 (15) - remove this
00:40:002 (22) - remove this
00:41:704 (29) - remove this
00:45:108 (43) - remove this
^All denied in order to have reasonable spread with Muzukashii
01:06:077 - add k >Unsnapped time stamp
01:06:197 - add k >Don't see a reason adding note here
01:06:491 (68) - change to k >Maintain 1/1 d pattern here
01:19:659 - add k ^^

xfraczynho wrote:

Here I am, looking good on a first impression

General

1. Offset: 3938 (read below)
2. Background size: Try to use some standard dimensions like 1366x768 (current one is 1277x767) >Fix after everything settled down
3. Audio bitrate: Even current bitrate is nice, I think you could try to renderize to 192kbps so you take advantage of that :p >^
4. OD and HP spread: I would suggest changing: Muzu OD to 5 and Oni HP to 6/5.5 cause length and note density (also spread) >^
5. Kiai times: 01:06:704 - 01:08:619 - break on here could look nice >I disagree this as kiai is meant to represent chorus part.
6. Volumes:
   
   1. 00:06:065 - 70
   2. 00:07:342 - 80
   3. 00:55:002 - 90
7. Please try to start every diff at the same point; 00:03:938 (1) - is pretty nice imo cause sounds before could be skipped nicely for taiko >I think it is acceptable as JuDa might have different interpretation to the song.
8. I know this isn't a real problem, but I think it would be nice if you try to make a better spread on this section:
   >This is intentional as the song is VERY CALM here
9. Also this >Leaving this to JuDa as I think my 2 diffs have reasonable spread here.

To Choco:

[Muzukashii]

1. 00:20:959 - a break instead spinner here would be better imo >I am emphasizing the fade out effect with the spinner.
2. 00:23:725 (3) - a K on here would fit nice to emphasize pitches and next 00:24:363 (4) - d specially >There are like more than 5 modders mentioning this, I think it's better to listen the modders' suggestion then, fixed.
3. 00:26:916 (6,7) - ctrl+g on these would fit great since first one sounds lower, also 00:27:768 (7,8) - are really similar >00:27:768 (7) - has to be d to emphasis the guitar sound.
4. I would like to see 00:44:576 - a ddd on here instead 00:44:789 - D on here cause I think drums are more important than that sound :p, also variety here could be fine >Possible, yet I want to keep patterns simple here. It is just Muzukashii.
5. 00:55:002 - basically on Kiai starting with triples instead doubles would be really better. My point here is: 00:55:321 (7) - by deleting here I don't hear any sound to be mapped, and it seems not totally needed, also 00:55:214 - here I can hear the voice so I think it's a better point that deserves to be mapped. I will wait for your comment here (also this applies though the whole Kiai) >I think the 2plets are needed to make the patterns more interesting to play. I don't necessarily map directly to sounds to allow flexible mapping.
6. 01:06:704 (52) - K here, since pitch + strong instrument use here deserves d K imo >I prefer D since the instrument played here is quite deep.

[Oni]

1. 00:20:959 - refer to muzu
2. 00:09:682 (12,13,14) - it seems more like kkk or ddk cause 00:09:895 (14,15) - sounds similar >The 3plet is a reverse pattern to allow better emphasizing effect.
3. 00:12:448 (25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33) - hmmm I don't like how it seems, pretty sure you could make any change here >This is used to express the upward piano pitch.
4. 00:19:257 - ^
5. 00:23:725 (3) - muzu
6. 00:55:002 - somehow I can agree more with them cause it's Oni, I would pref to see doubles on here >00:55:321 (11,12,15,16) - doubles here.
7. 00:57:555 (21,22,23,24) - ddk d fills really nice >k on every alternative 1/1 interval.
8. 01:00:533 (34,35,36,37,38,39) - k d kdk k same >^, I want to keep patterns simple despite it is a Oni

I would like to see some more comments on Oni specially, there are some pitches that can be really better followed :3, let me know when you get a little more comments on Oni specially!

Invective wrote:

o7

mod

Quick mod for Oni as requested.

1. 00:26:916 (6,7) - Ctrl+g? I think it's better to emphasise the third of the 2/1 notes there. >As I mentioned b4, 7 has to be d to emphasis the guitar sound.
2. 00:33:725 (11,12) - ^ ^
3. 00:49:044 (60) - Change to k? I think having the k's match with the drum sounds on the 1/1 beats fits better. You do use non-monocolor doubles in the kiai, so it won't be overly difficult relative to other parts of the map(also low bpm) >non-monocolor is harder than monocolor and I think it is suitable to express non-kiai and kiai's difference by the complexity of the color scheme.
4. 00:49:895 (63) - ^
5. 00:50:746 (67) - ^
6. 00:59:895 (32,33,34,35) - Ctrl+g (kd_kk on 1/2 to kk_dk)? I think this fits the high -> low vocal pitch better. >However it breaks 00:59:682 (31,32,33) - where it follows vocal's pitch.
7. 01:13:512 (99,100,101,102) - ^

Hope it helps

xfraczynho wrote:

Considering spread is nice and there aren't general problems, let's mark until you get a mod on Oni
Since I only made suggestions, I think you should try to fix some pitches usage, try to hear suggestions better on Oni :p. I will be back after 1 mod

Ppus wrote:

mod requested from PM a long time ago...

Oni
00:06:477 (1) - put an k d K (1/2) here instead of an spinner. >The background music here is not strong enough to fit any notes so I substitute it with a spinner.

00:16:690 (48) - move this to 00:16:796 >Nice suggestion, changed and into k.

00:54:137 (5,6) - remove the finishers >I think there is a special emphasizing effect with these 2 notes being finisher.

00:56:902 - add an k >Let me think about it. If I do that I have to ctrl + G 00:57:328 (20,21,22,23) -

01:00:307 - add an d>^ for consistency

01:04:775 (58,59,60,61) - kkd (1/4) then k in 1/2. with this i mean: >Tend to be consistent with 01:03:073 (47,48,49,50) -

01:13:924 - add an d

01:18:392 (125,126,127,128) - same as 01:04:775 (58,59,60,61)

01:31:583 (48) - move this to 01:31:690

kms chocola asked two mods in the same time

Good luck

Gabe wrote:

Everything's good to go?

Chocola_2287 wrote:

Gabe wrote:

Everything's good to go?

Offset +6, set should be ready to go. (Need to ask for rebubble 1st)

Now you changed it I noticed it was a little advanced so I think it's still +7ms I think (considering your change) it's more accurate. Tell me when you do it

iloveyou4ever wrote:

irc about timing

17:53 Chocola_2287: hi
17:53 Chocola_2287: May I ask for a offset check?
17:53 Chocola_2287: I need a offset check before I get rebubble
17:55 iloveyou4ever: ok
17:55 iloveyou4ever: but why ask me lol
17:56 *Chocola_2287 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1378015 AZALEA - GALAXY HidE and SeeK [Oni]]
17:56 Chocola_2287: I cant find anyone else rn
17:59 iloveyou4ever: 527-230
17:59 iloveyou4ever: 530
17:59 Chocola_2287: wtf so high
17:59 iloveyou4ever: let me redl 
18:00 Chocola_2287: I changed the mp3 before
18:00 iloveyou4ever: oh sorry
18:01 iloveyou4ever: 508-509
18:01 iloveyou4ever: I think 512 is fine 
18:01 iloveyou4ever: I cant really notice the difference
18:01 Chocola_2287: ye
18:02 Chocola_2287: idk why the BN suggested +7
18:02 iloveyou4ever: to 519?
18:02 iloveyou4ever: too late lol
18:02 Chocola_2287: yes ikr
18:02 iloveyou4ever: tell him to have a hearing test
18:02 Chocola_2287: lol
18:03 Chocola_2287: Can I request you to savelog and forum post this as well? I want some experienced mapper to prove that my offset is fine
18:08 iloveyou4ever: ok

Good Luck!

18:41 Chocola_2287: oha... can I ask for a offset check?
18:42 JUDYDANNY: hi :3/
18:42 JUDYDANNY: galaxy?  or other? map link plz?
18:42 Chocola_2287: galaxy
18:42 Chocola_2287: idk why xfrac suggested offset+7
18:42 Chocola_2287: but the offset now plays well already
18:47 JUDYDANNY: http://puu.sh/yd0fi/76d04d4bdd.jpg
18:47 JUDYDANNY: why +7ms lol
18:48 Chocola_2287: did you update the mp3
18:48 Chocola_2287: the latest mp3 is 192kbps, the previous one is only 14x kbps
18:50 JUDYDANNY: http://puu.sh/yd0jg/6c61ac1f40.jpg
18:50 JUDYDANNY: yes, I did.
18:50 JUDYDANNY: ↑ -7ms(means back the before offset.  505)
18:50 Chocola_2287: it is 512 now
18:50 Chocola_2287: the latest version
18:55 JUDYDANNY: 502 seems better to me.
18:55 JUDYDANNY: 512, current is too late
18:56 JUDYDANNY: try 499~502
18:58 Chocola_2287: Sure
18:58 Chocola_2287: I used 502