Just a hitsound and storyboard check, plus a quick look at note placements
Pop saved I hope?
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2017-09-14 14:03 Asherz007: How's the irc going?
2017-09-14 14:04 Calcyon: going fine!
2017-09-14 14:04 Calcyon: (hopefully)
2017-09-14 14:04 Asherz007: hopefully lol
2017-09-14 14:04 Asherz007: perhaps weber won't trip up on this one
2017-09-14 14:05 Calcyon: I feel like a test subject
2017-09-14 14:05 Asherz007: You kinda are I guess? Well, at least the mapset anyway. Wouldn't worry about it too much
2017-09-14 14:06 Asherz007: By the way, don't be afraid to defend your own mapping decisions if you think they're better. Provide a logical argument as to why though.
2017-09-14 14:06 Calcyon: Yeah I would
2017-09-14 14:06 Calcyon: But all of the stuff weber pointed out atleast, were sloppy mistakes on my part
2017-09-14 14:06 Calcyon: and pattern improvements
2017-09-14 14:07 Asherz007: did he say anything about icons by any chance
2017-09-14 14:07 Calcyon: hm? what do you mean, like a bubble?
2017-09-14 14:07 Asherz007: yeah
2017-09-14 14:08 Asherz007: I had a look at the map a little while back and the simply storyboard works really well
2017-09-14 14:08 Asherz007: (I think I ended up not modding because you hadn't responded to a couple of mods at that point)
2017-09-14 14:09 Calcyon: yeah actually i was really busy with school, had to apologize to the modders
2017-09-14 14:09 Calcyon: cause I responded really late
2017-09-14 14:10 Asherz007: I wouldn't worry too much about it now
2017-09-14 14:10 Asherz007: But I'd better take a look just in case
2017-09-14 14:12 Calcyon: look at what exactly?
2017-09-14 14:13 Asherz007: Just in case Weber's done something silly again
2017-09-14 14:13 Calcyon: The map?
2017-09-14 14:13 Asherz007: Last map he bubbled it had an offset of -4000 or so
2017-09-14 14:13 Calcyon: anyways yeah, we were talking about an icon
2017-09-14 14:13 Calcyon: probably not a secret
2017-09-14 14:13 Calcyon: i think
2017-09-14 14:21 Calcyon: finished IRC with weber, told him that you wanted to check the map too
2017-09-14 14:21 Asherz007: Just taking a quick look for any critical issues
2017-09-14 14:21 Calcyon: yeah, just didnt want to exclude anyone, when we're talking about the same set at the same time :p
2017-09-14 14:29 Asherz007: Still there?
2017-09-14 14:29 Calcyon: Yep
2017-09-14 14:29 Asherz007: Just a couple of questions about the storyboard
2017-09-14 14:29 Asherz007: Are you the right person to talk to about that?
2017-09-14 14:30 Calcyon: Yeah that's the issue
2017-09-14 14:30 Calcyon: Had the storyboard made by a guy called 'Acnos'
2017-09-14 14:30 Calcyon: he offered
2017-09-14 14:30 Asherz007: I see.
2017-09-14 14:30 Calcyon: but he has fixed any issue that came up
2017-09-14 14:30 Asherz007: Well, I'm going through the sb folder and I think there are a couple of unused files
2017-09-14 14:31 Calcyon: I think I could fix that alone
2017-09-14 14:31 Calcyon: I could ask him if you point them out? I think
2017-09-14 14:31 Asherz007: Secondly, I'm not quite sure why the storyboards are copied in each difficulty
2017-09-14 14:32 Asherz007: Is there any difference in the storyboard between each diff?
2017-09-14 14:32 Calcyon: Wait
2017-09-14 14:32 Calcyon: I don't have to do that?
2017-09-14 14:32 Asherz007: no
2017-09-14 14:32 Calcyon: lol
2017-09-14 14:32 Asherz007: You can use a .osb file
2017-09-14 14:32 Calcyon: ...
2017-09-14 14:32 Calcyon: All you have to do is insert it?
2017-09-14 14:33 Calcyon: like into the folder?
2017-09-14 14:33 Asherz007: Probably will make it significantly easier for me to check unused stuff if I only have to check one file
2017-09-14 14:33 Asherz007: Yeah
2017-09-14 14:33 Asherz007: Any sb things that are in the .osu files are usually only difficulty-specific
2017-09-14 14:33 Calcyon: I think I did that before, but it didn't work for some reason
2017-09-14 14:33 Calcyon: well time to give it a try
2017-09-14 14:34 Asherz007: I'll keep a copy of the old diffs just in case
2017-09-14 14:34 Calcyon: yeah same
2017-09-14 14:34 Calcyon: so, I should remove the content under 'Events' in the .osu and copy in the .osb?
2017-09-14 14:35 Calcyon: but yeah, i mean if it was purely for the checking purpose, every .osu file should have the same storyboard in it
2017-09-14 14:35 Asherz007: Copy them over yeah.
2017-09-14 14:35 Asherz007: Let me check something
2017-09-14 14:35 Asherz007: Leave everything in background and video events
2017-09-14 14:36 Asherz007: And don't delete any line starting //
2017-09-14 14:36 Calcyon: Even the //Storyboard Layer 0?
2017-09-14 14:36 Asherz007: Yep
2017-09-14 14:36 Asherz007: because in a map without a storyboard they're there, just blank
2017-09-14 14:37 Calcyon: alright
2017-09-14 14:37 Calcyon: ill leave the storyboard layers in
2017-09-14 14:37 Calcyon: ok one sec
2017-09-14 14:37 Calcyon: ill get to it
2017-09-14 14:37 Asherz007: Hopefully this isn't going to go catastrophically wrong
2017-09-14 14:37 Calcyon: I hope
2017-09-14 14:37 Calcyon: lol
2017-09-14 14:38 Calcyon: can you just check
2017-09-14 14:38 Calcyon: http://puu.sh/xzxPV.png
2017-09-14 14:39 Calcyon: if this is how its probably supposed to look like?
2017-09-14 14:39 Calcyon: cause im gonna copy this into the other .osu files
2017-09-14 14:39 Asherz007: Should be it
2017-09-14 14:39 I mean, the sb *is* identical in each difficulty, right?
2017-09-14 14:39 Calcyon: yes
2017-09-14 14:39 Asherz007: yeah
2017-09-14 14:39 Calcyon: I literally copied contents from .osb to the .osu file under events
2017-09-14 14:40 Asherz007: I mean I came just to check hs and sb lol
2017-09-14 14:40 Asherz007: Actually, while I'm here, how come you're not using a kick hitsound?
2017-09-14 14:42 Calcyon: oh yeah one more thing, had a friend do the hitsounds, or like I manage them now, but he made them ground up, no idea why he didn't use it
2017-09-14 14:42 Calcyon: Should it be used?
2017-09-14 14:42 Calcyon: I mean, I guess it should to represent the kicks but
2017-09-14 14:42 Asherz007: I think it would be a good idea to
2017-09-14 14:43 Calcyon: ill ask him
2017-09-14 14:43 Asherz007: Feel like it would be a good idea to put one in
2017-09-14 14:49 Calcyon: wow fucking end my life
2017-09-14 14:49 Calcyon: the .osb thing is so easy
2017-09-14 14:49 Calcyon: why did i not know this sooner
2017-09-14 14:49 Asherz007: aw
2017-09-14 14:49 Asherz007: by the way, does acnos actually have his name in the storyboard?
2017-09-14 14:49 Asherz007: Because I can't really see it I think?
2017-09-14 14:50 Calcyon: updated, .osb should be in, .osu files should be clean
2017-09-14 14:50 Calcyon: no I dont think he put himself in
2017-09-14 14:50 Asherz007: I'd probably get him to put himself in
2017-09-14 14:50 Asherz007: Would be nice to see who actually made the sb
2017-09-14 14:50 Calcyon: yeah definitely
2017-09-14 14:51 Calcyon: I gave him credit in the description, but I guess considering he made the SB, putting his name on the SB would make sense lol
2017-09-14 14:51 Calcyon: anyways, try redownloading and seeing if all is good
2017-09-14 14:51 Asherz007: also if you wanted to you can put your HSer and SBer in your tags.
2017-09-14 14:51 Calcyon: yea i could do that
2017-09-14 14:52 Calcyon: I'll ask them if they care
2017-09-14 14:52 Calcyon: oh yeah what i wanted to say was, I requested a hitsound check from dudehacker a couple weeks ago
2017-09-14 14:52 Asherz007: lol my osu won't recognise the .osz
2017-09-14 14:52 Calcyon: I think I'm on top of his list right now so it could come pretty soon
2017-09-14 14:52 Calcyon: not sure
2017-09-14 14:52 Asherz007: right
2017-09-14 14:52 Calcyon: I dont wanna message him about it, just checked his queue yesterday
2017-09-14 14:53 Asherz007: Lemme just restart to check whether osu will accept osz then brb
2017-09-14 14:54 Asherz007: something's gone wrong I think
2017-09-14 14:54 Calcyon: oh no
2017-09-14 14:55 Calcyon: does the .osz not add itself to the game?
2017-09-14 14:55 Asherz007: it's in my song folder, but not recognised by client
2017-09-14 14:56 Calcyon: that happened to me before
2017-09-14 14:56 Calcyon: when i downloaded the song
2017-09-14 14:56 Calcyon: redownloaded the map before*
2017-09-14 14:56 Calcyon: i fixed it by deleting the file from the game
2017-09-14 14:56 Calcyon: restarting the game
2017-09-14 14:56 Calcyon: and downloading again
2017-09-14 14:56 Asherz007: game sux lul
2017-09-14 14:57 Asherz007: time to restart again lmao
2017-09-14 14:58 Asherz007: success
2017-09-14 14:58 Calcyon: some of the issues this game has are really ... interesting to say the least lol
2017-09-14 14:58 Calcyon: nice
2017-09-14 14:59 Asherz007: that was dumb
2017-09-14 14:59 Asherz007: But yeah try and contact your hser and sber
2017-09-14 15:00 Calcyon: Do you think the kick is really that vital that it needs changing?
2017-09-14 15:00 Calcyon: I'll definitely message the storyboarder to put his name in though.
2017-09-14 15:00 Asherz007: I mean, it's not vital, though I think for it not to be there with all of the other hitsounds doesn't make a lot of sense.
2017-09-14 15:01 Calcyon: I'll ask him and think about it myself then
2017-09-14 15:01 Calcyon: Also, what about the unused files in the SB?
2017-09-14 15:01 Calcyon: is it easier to check now?
2017-09-14 15:01 Asherz007: yeah
2017-09-14 15:01 Asherz007: tbh it's probably duplicates
2017-09-14 15:02 Asherz007: Right
2017-09-14 15:02 Asherz007: artist_n.png appears to be unused
2017-09-14 15:03 Calcyon: looks like title_n is gonna be unused too then, considering he replaced that and artist_n with name.png
2017-09-14 15:04 Calcyon: oh no nevermind
2017-09-14 15:04 Calcyon: that one is used im stupid
2017-09-14 15:04 Asherz007: phrase_name.png also appears to be unused
2017-09-14 15:04 Calcyon: its at the beginning
2017-09-14 15:05 Asherz007: Guess artist_n was also used at the beginning but was taken out
2017-09-14 15:05 Calcyon: Yeah, looks like it
2017-09-14 15:06 Asherz007: Ok seems like other than those I've mentioned everything appears to be used
2017-09-14 15:07 Calcyon: so phrase_name.jpg and artist_n.jpg
2017-09-14 15:07 Calcyon: was it?
2017-09-14 15:07 Asherz007: yeah
2017-09-14 15:07 Calcyon: I'll message him to add his name in and remove those 2 files then, he's probably going to post it into the thread
2017-09-14 15:07 Calcyon: Also, did you do a check on the map, or just SB and HS?
2017-09-14 15:08 Asherz007: I mean you can remove the files yourself
2017-09-14 15:08 Calcyon: Ah yeah I could
2017-09-14 15:08 Asherz007: Probs gonna need to check sb again afterwards just in case something random appears
2017-09-14 15:09 Asherz007: Chart-wise I can't really see anything critically wrong with it
2017-09-14 15:09 Asherz007: 00:17:772 (17772|0) - Would end this 1/2 earlier in each diff since that's where the guitar stops
2017-09-14 15:11 Calcyon: Alright
2017-09-14 15:11 Calcyon: im actually going to do that
2017-09-14 15:11 Calcyon: ill upload the sb without the files too
2017-09-14 15:11 Asherz007: sure
2017-09-14 15:13 Asherz007: By the way, I'm assuming the entire map is meant to use 1/3 and 1/6 snapping?
2017-09-14 15:14 Calcyon: on normal and hard
2017-09-14 15:14 Calcyon: yes
2017-09-14 15:14 Calcyon: hard is basically only 1/6ths
2017-09-14 15:14 Asherz007: I'd better check for snapping errors I guess then
2017-09-14 15:15 Calcyon: and after the IRc, normal should have no 1/4ths that would prove reading difficult either
2017-09-14 15:15 Calcyon: basically to prepare for the hard difficulty
2017-09-14 15:15 Asherz007: The map shouldn't really have any 1/4s at all tho
2017-09-14 15:15 Asherz007: I think
2017-09-14 15:16 Calcyon: 01:22:715 (82715|1,82886|2,82886|0) -
2017-09-14 15:16 Calcyon: in normal
2017-09-14 15:16 Calcyon: for example
2017-09-14 15:16 Calcyon: this is one of the very few 1/4ths
2017-09-14 15:16 Calcyon: used
2017-09-14 15:16 Asherz007: Yeah I don't agree with that
2017-09-14 15:17 Asherz007: Might just be me, who knows
2017-09-14 15:18 Asherz007: I mean it's justified, since there's a quiet snare on the 1/4
2017-09-14 15:18 Asherz007: but
2017-09-14 15:18 Asherz007: A much stronger kick sound is heard on the 1/6
2017-09-14 15:18 Asherz007: Up to you.
2017-09-14 15:18 Calcyon: hmmm
2017-09-14 15:19 Calcyon: you might be right
2017-09-14 15:19 Calcyon: im thinking
2017-09-14 15:19 Calcyon: cause I know I did that because I felt like 1/6 patterns into chords would be too hard for normal
2017-09-14 15:19 Calcyon: but then the entire diff got buffed by A LOT
2017-09-14 15:19 Asherz007: Because you do follow the 1/8 snares in top diff
2017-09-14 15:19 Calcyon: yeah
2017-09-14 15:19 Asherz007: I don't think 1/6 at this bpm would cause too much of a problem
2017-09-14 15:20 Calcyon: yeah I agree
2017-09-14 15:20 Calcyon: actually
2017-09-14 15:21 Asherz007: I was only gonna check sb elements and now look lmao
2017-09-14 15:21 Calcyon: yeah sorry lol
2017-09-14 15:21 Asherz007: dw dw
2017-09-14 15:21 Calcyon: i didnt want to take that much of your time
2017-09-14 15:22 Asherz007: It's not a problem
2017-09-14 15:22 Asherz007: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1377346 Sana feat.Nekomata Master - Indigo Bird [Easy]]
2017-09-14 15:22 Asherz007: 00:39:761 (39761|1) - I'm thinking move this into RH, since this is suddenly 1/4
2017-09-14 15:22 Calcyon: RH = right hand
2017-09-14 15:22 Calcyon: right?
2017-09-14 15:22 Asherz007: mhm
2017-09-14 15:23 Asherz007: 00:53:908 (53908|0,54249|1,54590|0,54931|1) - Hmm... hand balanced this is not lol. Perhaps move 00:54:249 (54249|1) - into 4?
2017-09-14 15:25 Calcyon: also now that i think about it, I feel like even though there are kicks in the song
2017-09-14 15:25 Calcyon: I think a kick hitsound might be a bit too 'intense'?
2017-09-14 15:25 Calcyon: i dont know if thats the word im looking for
2017-09-14 15:25 Asherz007: I mean it doesn't need to be like the kicks in edm or the like
2017-09-14 15:25 Calcyon: also yep, moved it to 4
2017-09-14 15:26 Asherz007: 01:13:681 - Might want a note here (also there's a HS inconsistency here)
2017-09-14 15:28 Asherz007: tbh you're probably looking for a kick like [https://puu.sh/xzzu7.wav this] perhaps
2017-09-14 15:28 Calcyon: is there?
2017-09-14 15:28 Asherz007: between Normal and top diff, think so
2017-09-14 15:29 Calcyon: oh
2017-09-14 15:29 Asherz007: normal has snare while UW has hihat
2017-09-14 15:31 Asherz007: Yeah
2017-09-14 15:32 Asherz007: I'd just let your HSer know about consistency checking
2017-09-14 15:32 Asherz007: Getting dudehacker to check might also be uself
2017-09-14 15:32 Asherz007: *useful
2017-09-14 15:32 Asherz007: (nailed it)
2017-09-14 15:32 Calcyon: https://trello.com/b/kpu4mP5o/hitsound-appreciation-team
2017-09-14 15:32 Calcyon: working on it
2017-09-14 15:32 Calcyon: lol
2017-09-14 15:32 Asherz007: lol
2017-09-14 15:33 Asherz007: nice
2017-09-14 15:34 Asherz007: In any case when the SB and HS are sorted call me back and I'll take another look (weber doesn't know about hs much, so rip him)
2017-09-14 15:35 Calcyon: yeah will do, sb will probably be whenever acnos is not afk and the hitsounds I'll look for a kick that I like
2017-09-14 15:35 Calcyon: I'm still not sure if i wanna put it in
2017-09-14 15:35 Calcyon: but if you think it's important
2017-09-14 15:35 Calcyon: I might take your word for it
2017-09-14 15:35 Asherz007: p sure there was one more thing I wanted to point out somewhere
2017-09-14 15:35 Calcyon: that its an amazing map amirite
2017-09-14 15:35 Calcyon: jk
2017-09-14 15:35 Asherz007: lmfao
2017-09-14 15:36 Calcyon: its pretty difficult learning all of this stuff on the go, but its fun
2017-09-14 15:36 Asherz007: I think I was convinced that one of the 1/8 rolls should be 1/12
2017-09-14 15:36 Asherz007: eh maybe not
2017-09-14 15:37 Asherz007: I'll post on the forum for the record that sb's been checked
Pop saved I hope?