Bro, I don't know what do you want with that post because I think the context isn't related each other. I never said anything about why abraker is dead or something.
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Here is the context you postHika wrote:
@Foxtrot and John:
If Ace was scum, he probably NK'd abraker to clear himself.
Scum could have also created WIFOM to make you think Ace did it.
I want you to let that sink in a bit.
And you guys tell me what you think about that.
Here is my contextLincolm wrote:
Well, I haven't read again. I just go vote as starter. Btw, it isn't because NK result. I found that his first post is weird post if he is town.Hika wrote:
@Lincolm;
I think abraker would've stopped scumhunting Ace depending on NK.
I'll type some stuff up tomorrow.
@Fox: funny thing is, that's how abraker has played his games. He'll analyze too deep and get caught up on something you said 50 pages ago that's super irrelevant.
he wouldn't put himself "leader in scumhunting" with a PR. I don't think he gave off a cop/tracker vibe or anything. Just a VT generating conversation.
I'll be looking at his ISO and reads and we can come up with something from there.
@Fox: funny thing is, that's how abraker has played his games. He'll analyze too deep and get caught up on something you said 50 pages ago that's super irrelevant.
he wouldn't put himself "leader in scumhunting" with a PR. I don't think he gave off a cop/tracker vibe or anything. Just a VT generating conversation.
I'll be looking at his ISO and reads and we can come up with something from there.
Need content from Aomi and slaini.
I think you quoted the wrong post tbhFoxtrot wrote:
Ace Timing wrote:
o..k..?
what's the relevance of this?Hika wrote:
Scum could have also created WIFOM to make you think Ace did it.
I didn't say that he was going to read me as town, but as scum I would leave him alive cause I know he was never going to lynch me.Lincolm wrote:
Because he didn't get anywhere doesn't mean he automatically read you town and let you go. Depends on NK, perhaps it can.
I don't say anything abraker died because he intimidated you.
why else would I kill him?
puts you into night faster and stops town from talking as long o/Lincolm wrote:
Lul, i never seen self-hammer as scum, but it is funny i can't stop laughing now.
no. I held my vote because I couldn't be bothered to move it until you guys tried lynching a townread of mine.Lincolm wrote:
You hold your vote because you doesn't know which scum you should push.
I like to put my vote down when the day starts. Hence why I voted randomly as soon as I got into the game.
Hello guys,
sorry for taking so long for an answer, it is a bad combination of me reading the message, that I successfully joined the game around 22:00 on that day and having really surprising problems in RL, but I want to read the history of the game concentrated to be able to get into the game.
I will give an useful post tomorrow, as it is 22:25 here.
sorry for taking so long for an answer, it is a bad combination of me reading the message, that I successfully joined the game around 22:00 on that day and having really surprising problems in RL, but I want to read the history of the game concentrated to be able to get into the game.
I will give an useful post tomorrow, as it is 22:25 here.
prod Aomi @Mod
WAKE UP EVERY1
Vote Aomi
i like sleeping and i hate workingHika wrote:
WAKE UP EVERY1
i'll try to write something when i come back from work though
how convenient, aomi is in my scum listHika wrote:
Vote Aomi
mmmh i'll save my vote though
Something first: Beeboy did thank me for stealing my PM's so I guess my first post in this game was... inadequate.
Onto the important stuff: long story short, abraker was probably killed because of his charts and the way he made the game "simple to read". Eventually, one of his summaries was going to get one of the scum players caught. Scum not killing Aomi after his claim is the most interesting part of all, but honestly there are so many possibilities here that's not worth the time to analyse them all.
abraker's main scum read throughtout the second part of D1 was Ace, however I still fail to see what was so scummy about his reactions, most of them seem to come from the same attitude I townread.
I'm specially interested about the self-vote that happened early D1, seemed to be triggered by Lincolm's vote on abraker back then, which was the result of also a very early PoE. I'm not really sure, but this vote seems to be very safe from a scum perspective. I'm pretty sure that if Lincolm is scum, he's not scum with Ace.
Foxtrot is the other one that gives me scumvibes. Foxtrot's lastest's post have been incredibly neutral and borderline stating the obvious. Also:
In the meanwhile:
Vote: Foxtrot
Onto the important stuff: long story short, abraker was probably killed because of his charts and the way he made the game "simple to read". Eventually, one of his summaries was going to get one of the scum players caught. Scum not killing Aomi after his claim is the most interesting part of all, but honestly there are so many possibilities here that's not worth the time to analyse them all.
abraker's main scum read throughtout the second part of D1 was Ace, however I still fail to see what was so scummy about his reactions, most of them seem to come from the same attitude I townread.
I'm specially interested about the self-vote that happened early D1, seemed to be triggered by Lincolm's vote on abraker back then, which was the result of also a very early PoE. I'm not really sure, but this vote seems to be very safe from a scum perspective. I'm pretty sure that if Lincolm is scum, he's not scum with Ace.
Foxtrot is the other one that gives me scumvibes. Foxtrot's lastest's post have been incredibly neutral and borderline stating the obvious. Also:
Which answer do you think abraker's death gave us? Still waiting for this.Foxtrot wrote:
Hika wrote:
i feel like abraker got too close at one point and scum freaked out, making him the first victim. and that's also why i was wondering if that was a rookie mistake, because targeting abraker was just damn too obvious. shouldn't the scums go after someone who didn't contribute at all so we could scratch our heads even further? i feel like abraker's death gave us more answers than questions. that said, this new day gave me new reads. i'll go over them once i'm not too tired
In the meanwhile:
Vote: Foxtrot
ps I see ur format broke
Fox said that, not me, just for clarification for everyone else that reads ur post zexion.
Fox said that, not me, just for clarification for everyone else that reads ur post zexion.
What stuck with me while reading through the game was how it unsettled me that Zekks was about the most anti-town thing I have played with since early Jess-games. I thought that it would be hard to determine if he was scum, but then Doomsday wrote this:
I feel like I want some more reads on Aomi, now that we have the chance that she(he?) is going to play it different.
Which felt too much like he(she?) was trying to reason his playstyle, rather than getting actual information out of it while still making such a big statement about it. This again makes me sure, that if any of Doomsday (Ace) or Zekks (Aomi) flips scum, I was my decision on who their scumpartner is.Doomsday wrote:
Zekks - I felt like making a "Zekks" zone and putting him in it for the rest of the game, we played irc mafia earlier and he seemed competent as a mafia (he actually won rofl.), his mafia strategy largely entailed parroting the most active townies just enough to stay out of suspicion. But IRC is a different beast to forum so I have no idea how reliable any of it is. He stays in null permanently probably.
I feel like I want some more reads on Aomi, now that we have the chance that she(he?) is going to play it different.
dawn*
What?? I don't understand your post.Hika wrote:
dawn*
Oh wait I saw "doomsday", nevermind
Oops, yeah, that totally broke. Foxtrot said that.Hika wrote:
ps I see ur format broke
Fox said that, not me, just for clarification for everyone else that reads ur post zexion.
Idk that threw me off too and I just felt weird loljohnmedina999 wrote:
Oh wait I saw "doomsday", nevermind
I'm drilling the fuck out of Aomi tho
@mod - requesting replacement, just moved to a new apartment and i dont have stable wifi, so sorry about this. ):
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The possibility of a good WIFOM would be a valid possibility, as some other scum could have killed abraker to create WIFOM. However, as I have said before, Ace is a prime suspect because of his interactions. Whether Ace is scum or not, it sure seems that abraker being shot cleared Ace's name with everyone else. Ace is still not off my scum radar yet.
What do you think of my comments, Ace?
Vote: Ace Timing
Foxtrot wrote:
he was mostly onto you but you're obviously not scum because if you went after him right away that'd just be dumb
As it was said earlier in this game, the premise of "scum won't do scummy things" is not fit for scomhunting, especially for a more experienced player, so Ace should not be cleared from being Mafia due to the sole fact that he is not acting like one.Foxtrot wrote:
what's with the sudden shift on ace timing? it makes no sense whatsoever. if he was scum, why would he go after the guy who pestered him the most? wouldn't it make it too obvious? same to you, john.
Can you go over them now, please?Foxtrot wrote:
that said, this new day gave me new reads. i'll go over them once i'm not too tired
town:
Hika
Lincolm
Ace Timing
null:
sLaiNi
Zexion
scum:
johnmedina999
Aomi
OK, so I did some research on this term, WIFOM, and I watched this video:Hika wrote:
@Foxtrot and John:
If Ace was scum, he probably NK'd abraker to clear himself.
Scum could have also created WIFOM to make you think Ace did it.
I want you to let that sink in a bit.
And you guys tell me what you think about that.
The possibility of a good WIFOM would be a valid possibility, as some other scum could have killed abraker to create WIFOM. However, as I have said before, Ace is a prime suspect because of his interactions. Whether Ace is scum or not, it sure seems that abraker being shot cleared Ace's name with everyone else. Ace is still not off my scum radar yet.
What do you think of my comments, Ace?
Vote: Ace Timing
its amazing you can take so much space to say nothing at all
I'm saying that you shouldn't be cleared from being scum, as Foxtrot and Hika have done.
ok?
i just dont see why you're voting me
Because you're my biggest scumread right now. Dawns didn't really leave any hints, and at the end of Day 1 (when you came in), your interactions with abraker make me suspicious.
I feel you're scum, so I vote. Is that not what a vote is for?
...maybe I'm just reading these posts too superficially. Or maybe I just suck at this game.
This post makes me think you are using reverse psychology, saying that you would never do a thing because it's irrational, hiding the fact that you did. Appeal to emotion, right?Ace Timing wrote:
I didn't say that he was going to read me as town, but as scum I would leave him alive cause I know he was never going to lynch me.Lincolm wrote:
Because he didn't get anywhere doesn't mean he automatically read you town and let you go. Depends on NK, perhaps it can.
I don't say anything abraker died because he intimidated you.
I feel you're scum, so I vote. Is that not what a vote is for?
...maybe I'm just reading these posts too superficially. Or maybe I just suck at this game.
thats not appeal to emotion but w/e
your vote is just
weightless
your vote is just
weightless
Linc > Aomi > slaini > john > fox > ace
my order for lynching rn
my order for lynching rn
I see super town coming from fox and john
they have no idea what they're doing
they have no idea what they're doing
Now that I think about it my reads look super jacked up
I just can't play this game the same way with all replacements and stufff
I just can't play this game the same way with all replacements and stufff
yeah but maybe they don't know what they're doing because they're scumHika wrote:
I see super town coming from fox and john
they have no idea what they're doing
yup yup yup thanks for understandingHika wrote:
I see super town coming from fox and john
they have no idea what they're doing
???Ace Timing wrote:
yeah but maybe they don't know what they're doing because they're scumHika wrote:
I see super town coming from fox and john
they have no idea what they're doing
????
I agree with john, but I can't shake the feeling foxtrot is just staying in the sideways. I don't agree with john's motive for voting Ace but he is atleast trying to reach some conclussions.Hika wrote:
I see super town coming from fox and john
they have no idea what they're doing
Also I do potentially agree with your lynch order, except I would go for fox after Lincolm or the other way around.