Abraker has died night 1 he was a Vanilla Townie
nice tryFoxtrot wrote:
abraker probably got too close at one point and made scum feel threatened. That's a sign at least
I'm at lunch right now, I'll check progress once I get home
Alright, this made me think of a question.Zexion wrote:
I did not expect this.
But it's more informative than I thought. I'll have to read the first day all over again.
I don't think so. I feel like everyone here had valuable input, those active during the day.Foxtrot wrote:
hey hika, one question. don't you feel like abraker's death was a rookie mistake?
yup, that's my same thought right there. like i said, i feel like abraker got too close at one point and scum freaked out, making him the first victim. and that's also why i was wondering if that was a rookie mistake, because targeting abraker was just damn too obvious. shouldn't the scums go after someone who didn't contribute at all so we could scratch our heads even further? i feel like abraker's death gave us more answers than questions. that said, this new day gave me new reads. i'll go over them once i'm not too tiredHika wrote:
Maybe scum felt threatened or intimidated by the fact he was going through everyone's post that they felt the need to eliminate them.
Wut? Wouldn't he push Ace more in D2?Foxtrot wrote:
he was mostly onto you but you're obviously not scum because if you went after him right away that'd just be dumb
Aomi because you-know-why-and-it-shouldn't-be-discussedHika wrote:
Who do you think would've been targeted at night and why?
are you trying to say that if abraker would have survived, he would have kept pushing ace? what makes you think of that?Lincolm wrote:
Wut? Wouldn't he push Ace more in D2?Foxtrot wrote:
he was mostly onto you but you're obviously not scum because if you went after him right away that'd just be dumb
explain this please. is it because of zekks?Lincolm wrote:
Aomi because you-know-why-and-it-shouldn't-be-discussed
nope, makes no sense. having fights =/= scumJohn wrote:
Abraker has had fights with both Lincolm earlygame and Ace lategame, which makes me suspect them both immediately.
I never said that, I just said that they are prime suspects because they had the most negative interaction with abraker, so they had the most motive. Also, why are you getting so defensive of Ace? Ever since he joined I was always suspicious of his actions, and even if he is a veteran player, his overly-confident attitude didn't fare too well with me.Foxtrot wrote:
nope, makes no sense. having fights =/= scumJohn wrote:
Abraker has had fights with both Lincolm earlygame and Ace lategame, which makes me suspect them both immediately.
Why would he not push Ace again if both of them were alive regardless night kill?Foxtrot wrote:
are you trying to say that if abraker would have survived, he would have kept pushing ace? what makes you think of that?
No. It is scummy as fuck. Next game there is scum self-vote, you're going to confirm him as town. (I did that in my last game in here lul)Hika wrote:
abraker going self-vote crazy made him look wonky but it definitely cleared him as town... obviously.
Why would you not getting information by yourself? As I said, you're too passive.johnmedina999 wrote:
I see that my relative inactivity is turning on me. However, that's because I had no idea what was going on. Now that we have some more information, I can be more active.
I said it is weak reason also, tho.johnmedina999 wrote:
Abraker has had fights with both Lincolm earlygame and Ace lategame, which makes me suspect them both immediately. It's worth noting that Lincolm stared PoE Day 1, no less, on abraker before he voted for himself.
You should check how my interaction after I unvoted abraker was negative interaction. I'm gonna wait your response regarding this.johnmedina999 wrote:
I never said that, I just said that they are prime suspects because they had the most negative interaction with abraker, so they had the most motive.
Well, I haven't read again. I just go vote as starter. Btw, it isn't because NK result. I found that his first post is weird post if he is town.Hika wrote:
@Lincolm;
I think abraker would've stopped scumhunting Ace depending on NK.
to be fair, most of the people in here had a negative interaction with abraker. some just had it worse. abraker was also the most obvious guy scum could have gone after, unless he was scum himself (which clearly, he wasn't). and why wouldn't i be defensive of ace if i think he's town? NK kind of proved me that he isn't, so there's my reason why i think he's innocent. his overly confident attitude wouldn't have done well if he's scum, either.John wrote:
I never said that, I just said that they are prime suspects because they had the most negative interaction with abraker, so they had the most motive. Also, why are you getting so defensive of Ace? Ever since he joined I was always suspicious of his actions, and even if he is a veteran player, his overly-confident attitude didn't fare too well with me.
that seems too obvious imo, but it makes sense. maybe scum went after abraker because they thought he had an investigative role, considering the way he was questioning everybody?Hika wrote:
If Ace was scum, he probably NK'd abraker to clear himself.
Lincolm wrote:
Anyway, I think I can describe my gut. He goes to Foxtrot instantly and said we ignored abraker.
Well, I don't see how Zexion or me ignored him when I read and respond it, especially when abraker asked everyone opinions in his read at Ace Timing and we answered.
Also, D1 Ace holded his vote, but at start of D2 he goes to Foxtrot instantly.
Hika wrote:
Scum could have also created WIFOM to make you think Ace did it.
those fights that had such a powerful impact on me that I was scared of his scumhunting prowessjohnmedina999 wrote:
Abraker has had fights with both Lincolm earlygame and Ace lategame, which makes me suspect them both immediately. It's worth noting that Lincolm stared PoE Day 1, no less, on abraker before he voted for himself.
he didn't get anywhere with it yesterday so why would he today?Lincolm wrote:
Wut? Wouldn't he push Ace more in D2?Foxtrot wrote:
he was mostly onto you but you're obviously not scum because if you went after him right away that'd just be dumb
self-vote isn't scumLincolm wrote:
No. It is scummy as fuck. Next game there is scum self-vote, you're going to confirm him as town. (I did that in my last game in here lul)Hika wrote:
abraker going self-vote crazy made him look wonky but it definitely cleared him as town... obviously.
o..k..?Lincolm wrote:
Also, D1 Ace holded his vote, but at start of D2 he goes to Foxtrot instantly.
Ace Timing wrote:
o..k..?Lincolm wrote:
Also, D1 Ace holded his vote, but at start of D2 he goes to Foxtrot instantly.
what's the relevance of this?
Hika wrote:
Scum could have also created WIFOM to make you think Ace did it.