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Zekks

Foxtrot wrote:

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

Who's her?
are you deliberately avoiding my question?
what was your question 'w'
Foxtrot

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

what was your question 'w'
did you ready my post?

idc, as long as I'm walking, there's no stopping for me 'w'
what did you mean by this?
Zekks

Foxtrot wrote:

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

what was your question 'w'
did you ready my post?

idc, as long as I'm walking, there's no stopping for me 'w'
what did you mean by this?
As long as I'm still alive, no mafia can't stop me ;)
Hika
maybe cuz u r scum smh ^

Unvote
Foxtrot

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

As long as I'm still alive, no mafia can't stop me ;)
really now? interesting
Zekks

Foxtrot wrote:

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

As long as I'm still alive, no mafia can't stop me ;)
really now? interesting
Yes, very interesting
Hika
why the fuck are there three votes on me that's crazy as fuck
Hika
also zekks, stop that its annoying u scum
Foxtrot
you're acting very scummy, zekks. if you're town, i advise you to stop it. you're most likely not.
johnmedina999

Hika wrote:

why the fuck are there three votes on me that's crazy as fuck
The votecount is wrong, I didn't vote for you.
Hika
Oh alright I was just wondering cause I only remember getting voted twice
Hika
Oh also I forgot to hit submit but if someone asks for reads or opinions, it's probably better to reveal them in a timely matter and in complete honesty because it definitely can shape a better opinion of you for someone else. In this case, if you're scum/town. @john
Hika
p.s. RVS is over imo
abraker

Zexion wrote:

I missed Dawnsday image-posts.

This is going to be a fun game.
I thought I was the only one who made charts and stuff and over analyzed everything.


johnmedina999 wrote:

as soon as you saw Zekks thinking about hopping on the bandwagon, you saw that your partner being killed might be a certain possibility, and you hopped off the wagon to avoid that. That seems suspicious to me.
Zekks was onto both on Foxtrot and Lincolm. What difference does it make who gets the vote? It doesn't make sense for Foxtrot to go easier on Lincolm if Foxtrot himself ends up on the end of the voting stick instead.

Speaking of that,

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

I might vote for Foxtrot, since she is trying to pin everyone on Lincolm, but that seems kinda weak, but I'll still hold onto that

Or I can change my vote to Lincolm, because Foxtrot has decent amount of evidence to support the fact that Lincolm could be the mafia
My scum detector is getting a faint reading here. Attempting to justify the no change in vote using indecisiveness between the two most active members? By what I see Lincolm was trying to break RVS and caught the attention of Foxtrot in the processes. Why even mention a change in vote before the dust has settled a bit is beyond me.

abraker wrote:

Zekks, why do you think Lincolm is asking you so many questions?
And you ignored my question too, what gives? Answer mine and Lincolm's questions already!


Zekks - is the most suspicious one for giving the weirdest responses and ignoring questions. Such crude indecisiveness and accumulation of mishaps is what killed Dawnsday day 1 last game.

Lincolm - don't want to draw any conclusions just yet, but is slightly on my radar

Foxtrot - My personal BS detector from now on

John - Poor guy. He needs more heat lol

The rest are null
Foxtrot

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

Yes, very interesting
you know what would be more interesting?

Unvote

Vote: Zekks
Zekks
I'm just confused, I'm too lazy to look over things asdf. If I die the mafia will have a higher chance of living, so if you decide to kill me off, good luck!
Dawns
Vote: Zekks

Maybe this gives you the incentive to "look things over". You're setting off my scumdar now.
Foxtrot

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

I'm just confused, I'm too lazy to look over things asdf. If I die the mafia will have a higher chance of living, so if you decide to kill me off, good luck!
nice taunt
Hika
need vote count b4 I vote Zekks
Dawns
last mod post, he was 1 vote, me and fox voted so that's 3?

L-2 I think but not sure of it's accuracy.

/shrug

Kinda hope Zekks posts soon, been scummy the entire time and this latest post doesn't help :S
Lincolm
Catching up!

Here is the unofficial vote count
Unofficial Vote Count 
[ - Zekks - ] (L-2) : rEdo, Foxtrot, Dawnsday
Hika (L-3) : Zexion, Lincolm
rEdo (L-4) : [ - Zekks - ]
Lincolm (L-4) : johnmedina999
Not Voting : abraker, Hika

==

abraker wrote:

I am considering to vote for myself if I cannot come up with any conclusions in the next couple days because fuck RVS.
So any reason why "fuck RVS"?

Dawnsday wrote:

Lincolm has stuck to explaining his play.
I read both Foxtrot and John as town, for now. So yes, I was stuck.

Any way, never seen someone explain what happen via image of text. Nice method.

johnmedina999 wrote:

It doesn't help that both times he asked someone about me he asked Zekks.
Because somehow he doesn't care about you? When I asked about you, he said "idc" and it's weird?

Maybe he doesn't care about the game at all, which is clarify his answer. Some people like to trolling around regardless his alignment or maybe he doesn't even have slight what's going on, so...

Dawnsday wrote:

I have no idea as to Lincolm's experience but I'm just giving my opinion on the matter.
Have play mafia like 4-5 years ago, stopped playing 2 years ago, aaaaaand back.

Hika wrote:

p.s. RVS is over imo
I like my vote sticks in you >:)

abraker wrote:

Foxtrot - My personal BS detector from now on
What is the abbreviation BS in here? Is it bullshit? I thought you like to over-analyzed everything. Can you explain more about your read on Foxtrot?

==

So, I think Zekks is scummy because of fence-sitting, but perhaps just his style of trolling. Way too confident and careless.

So you guys should back off and chill out a little bit and see other players as we have 120 hours before deadline.

I'm gonna wait more contents from rEdo, Zexion, Hika.
Lincolm
Somehow this question doesn't posted in my previous post.

Dawnsday wrote:

furthering the narrative that Zekks & Lincolm seems to have some connection

What do you mean by "connection" between me and Zekks? Do you mean scum-scum interaction or something? What if one or both of us town?
Dawns

Lincolm wrote:

Somehow this question doesn't posted in my previous post.

Dawnsday wrote:

furthering the narrative that Zekks & Lincolm seems to have some connection

What do you mean by "connection" between me and Zekks? Do you mean scum-scum interaction or something? What if one or both of us town?
You and Zekks seemed to speak to eachother a lot, you were asking Zekks for his thoughts about John (you've explained this to be solely down to online users but I'm still iffy.)

Not saying it's scum scum but I'm not sure about buddying in any scenario as townies.
Foxtrot

Lincolm wrote:

What is the abbreviation BS in here? Is it bullshit? I thought you like to over-analyzed everything. Can you explain more about your read on Foxtrot?
BS means bullshit, yes


Lincolm wrote:

So you guys should back off and chill out a little bit and see other players as we have 120 hours before deadline.
it's not like we can't unvote, so why would you say that? is zekks getting too many votes for your liking?
Lincolm

Dawnsday wrote:

You and Zekks seemed to speak to eachother a lot, you were asking Zekks for his thoughts about John (you've explained this to be solely down to online users but I'm still iffy.)
I think there are more interaction between me and Foxtrot now. What do you think about that?

Foxtrot wrote:

it's not like we can't unvote, so why would you say that? is zekks getting too many votes for your liking?
As abraker and Hika scum-read Zekks also, I would like you guys to see other players as I don't think Zekks is scum for now. Also, you can go unvote and vote him back. It's not about the votes, but everyone seems too focused on Zekks.

Somehow, I'm pretty sure there is no point in pressuring or waiting Zekks. But if you want to stick your vote, I don't mind also.
Dawns

Lincolm wrote:

Dawnsday wrote:

You and Zekks seemed to speak to eachother a lot, you were asking Zekks for his thoughts about John (you've explained this to be solely down to online users but I'm still iffy.)
I think there are more interaction between me and Foxtrot now. What do you think about that?
Incomparable. This is currently an open discussion, not a simple "hey X what do you think about Y" out of the blue (where X is currently most people's top scumread). You x Foxtrot interaction is limited to discussion, not the half-buddying I witnessed, again. I'm not claiming it to be scum-scum buddying. Was just an observation I made when rereading the thread.

Lincolm wrote:

Foxtrot wrote:

it's not like we can't unvote, so why would you say that? is zekks getting too many votes for your liking?
As abraker and Hika scum-read Zekks also, I would like you guys to see other players as I don't think Zekks is scum for now. Also, you can go unvote and vote him back. It's not about the votes, but everyone seems too focused on Zekks.

Somehow, I'm pretty sure there is no point in pressuring or waiting Zekks. But if you want to stick your vote, I don't mind also.
Explain? When asked to open up on certain things he simply says "I'm too lazy" and literally applies a logical fallacy (Appeals to emotion in his statement that if we lynch him we'll give mafia a higher probability.)

I'm not saying he's guaranteed scum but he should 100% be setting off some alarms in your head right about now.
Hika
I'm willing to stand my ground on voting an anti town but anti town > scum so we need to get off zekks a bit.
Hika
o yea btw been busy. School starting and work so I usually will have more time to leave content around 19:00 EST
Lincolm
Is this top page?

Here is the unofficial vote count for top page
Unofficial Vote Count 
[ - Zekks - ] (L-2) : rEdo, Foxtrot, Dawnsday
Hika (L-3) : Zexion, Lincolm
rEdo (L-4) : [ - Zekks - ]
Lincolm (L-4) : johnmedina999
Not Voting : abraker, Hika

==

Dawnsday wrote:

Explain? When asked to open up on certain things he simply says "I'm too lazy" and literally applies a logical fallacy (Appeals to emotion in his statement that if we lynch him we'll give mafia a higher probability.)

I'm not saying he's guaranteed scum but he should 100% be setting off some alarms in your head right about now.
As I said before, his post when he stated "idc" is already weird for me. It turned on my scum-radar, but I considered many scenarios as it was RVS also.
I think he is scummy because of fence-sitting, but it is just the way he plays this mafia game right now, either he is trolling or he has no idea what's going on. I don't see how this is coming from confidence, yet careless scum.

Hika wrote:

I'm willing to stand my ground on voting an anti town but anti town > scum so we need to get off zekks a bit.
Not fully disagree about this, but I rather push him to give a content or something.
abraker

Lincolm wrote:

So any reason why "fuck RVS"?
... I will pretend this question was not asked


Lincolm wrote:

What is the abbreviation BS in here? Is it bullshit? I thought you like to over-analyzed everything. Can you explain more about your read on Foxtrot?
He just latched on to you since you started being radioactive. Pointing out the bullshit stuff such as asking needless question like "So any reason why 'fuck RVS'?" is what he did. Other than that, if you can't figure out whether I think town on scum from what I wrote, then I can't figure either.
Hika
I agree with you linc.

There's no point in letting Zekks go off easy so pressure him harder to see what he's all about.
@Zekks: what da fuck u think you doing playing the way you're playing
Hika
@abraker: why do u think rvs is over? I agree with ya but I'd like to see what you're saying
Foxtrot

Lincolm wrote:

As abraker and Hika scum-read Zekks also, I would like you guys to see other players as I don't think Zekks is scum for now. Also, you can go unvote and vote him back. It's not about the votes, but everyone seems too focused on Zekks.
You don't think he's scum, and yet you call him scummy. You're contradicting yourself there.

I think he is scummy because of fence-sitting, but it is just the way he plays this mafia game right now, either he is trolling or he has no idea what's going on. I don't see how this is coming from confidence, yet careless scum.
And why should we stop focusing on Zekks if they might be possible scum? Waiting for other players is not a valid reason for it, because even if the other players come by that doesn't mean Zekks is not scum anymore. Everybody has actually posted here, but Zexion and rEdo haven't posted enough for me to get a read on them. Still, doesn't mean I shouldn't focus on Zekks; I got my read.

Again, it seems like Zekks getting votes is bothering you too much.

Also, the fact that Zekks keeps ignoring what we say is also a big redflag.

Lincolm wrote:

Not fully disagree about this, but I rather push him to give a content or something.
Last time Zekks got pushed all they said was "go ahead kill me that gives mafia higher chance to win" instead of trying to reason with us. Isn't that kind of a rookie mistake to do when you have a red role? You've been playing this for quite a while, so you should probably know.
rEdo
jesus I forgot to copy my LastPass password for osu! somewhere to log in at work :( I will catch up tomorrow, I don't really have time tonight to do all the stuff.
Dawns
looking forward to posts from rEdo and Zexion honestly, haven't seen enough to get reads.


Also even if Zekks isn't a redname his posts don't exactly scream "pro-town" to me so I'm still entirely set on getting some info from him, obviously I'm open to let him go and follow other reads if we get any but this is defo the flavor of the day controversy for me.
Lincolm

abraker wrote:

He just latched on to you since you started being radioactive. Pointing out the bullshit stuff such as asking needless question like "So any reason why 'fuck RVS'?" is what he did. Other than that, if you can't figure out whether I think town on scum from what I wrote, then I can't figure either.
It's not bullshit when you did RVS in your previous game. Somehow you changed to "Nah, fuck RVS". It is implying you're trying to changing your play style or you have changed in 6 months.

I did not ask whether he is town or scum for you, but I asked why he is town more clearly, but you did answer this.

Foxtrot wrote:

You don't think he's scum, and yet you call him scummy. You're contradicting yourself there.
I'm not contradicting myself. What am I trying to say is, he might be scum because he is ignoring all questions and doesn't do anything, but in his posts there are a lot of confidence yet carelessness that implying he is not scum. Town can trolling, can fence-sitting, can lurking, can looked scummy by anyone with any reason, but I have concluded that he is most likely (anti)town.

Foxtrot wrote:

And why should we stop focusing on Zekks if they might be possible scum? Waiting for other players is not a valid reason for it, because even if the other players come by that doesn't mean Zekks is not scum anymore. Everybody has actually posted here, but Zexion and rEdo haven't posted enough for me to get a read on them. Still, doesn't mean I shouldn't focus on Zekks; I got my read.
I'm not saying you should stop focusing Zekks. I'm trying to tell that you should consider what if Zekks is town, go back and reread the thread again or maybe bring out new content as we still have 120 hours.

Foxtrot wrote:

Again, it seems like Zekks getting votes is bothering you too much.
Yes, because everyone is (going) too focused on Zekks because of his play, or maybe I'm the one who too focused right now.

Foxtrot wrote:

Last time Zekks got pushed all they said was "go ahead kill me that gives mafia higher chance to win" instead of trying to reason with us. Isn't that kind of a rookie mistake to do when you have a red role? You've been playing this for quite a while, so you should probably know.
Well, in my experience, every mafias were trying to win although it was his first game, like myself. But I can see some people don't like mafia role and said "kill me please" instead "replace me" because I thought about that when got mafia role 2 years ago, yet not confidence and careless.
Zexion
Sorry, a bit disconnected right now.

So what's the case on Zekks? Besides their bold claim about mafia to fear them which is pretty null right now. In any case, after a statement like that I definitely wouldn't lynch them today.
Zexion

Hika wrote:

I'm willing to stand my ground on voting an anti town but anti town > scum so we need to get off zekks a bit.
oooh what? Pretty sure we win if we go the other way. A player may be anti-town, but still town after all.

Hika wrote:

There's no point in letting Zekks go off easy so pressure him harder to see what he's all about.
@Zekks: what da fuck u think you doing playing the way you're playing
Maybe it's just me, but if Zekks really meant what he wrote (and it was not some funny rvs stuff) then there's not much more to explain. I totally agree with the second phrase tho.
abraker

Hika wrote:

@abraker: why do u think rvs is over? I agree with ya but I'd like to see what you're saying
Looks like a critical reading question, "Why do you think this character you don't care about in some dumb book is doing this thing?"

Hika wrote:

p.s. RVS is over imo
That's the only thing I remember reading regards to thinking rvs is over. Please quote whatever I said that might imply I think rvs is over. Do note it doesn't mean I never implied it, but I do want explicit text to make my life easier.

you: "So what do you think about it?"

me: "Takes too long"

you: "The new flatscreen?"

me: "oh..."

Pretty much me everyday. Now let's be explicit here.



Lincolm wrote:

abraker wrote:

He just latched on to you since you started being radioactive. Pointing out the bullshit stuff such as asking needless question like "So any reason why 'fuck RVS'?" is what he did. Other than that, if you can't figure out whether I think town on scum from what I wrote, then I can't figure either.
It's not bullshit when you did RVS in your previous game. Somehow you changed to "Nah, fuck RVS". It is implying you're trying to changing your play style or you have changed in 6 months.
What if I told you that I vote knowing I will likely regret the decision later? I vote when I am able to justify my vote since at least last game. Last time I voted Dawnsday as soon as soon as I had justification to vote, which was his mason crap. This time I am hesitant to vote zekks due to me being wrong about Dawnsday last game. This is why rvs sucks even if you can justify your reasons.

Although it is debatable whether zekks caused rvs to be over. Oh there is the answer to Hika's question, which might or might not be following up on something I previously said. Although I am almost sure it's a follow up on something I said due to "I agree with ya but I'd like to see what you're saying". Will wait for the reply I guess.


To whoever wants my history, here are my first, second, and third games I played. The previous game was my fourth.

https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=3
https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=137
https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=161
Hika
Calm down Jesus fuck I thought when you said fuck RVS you were stating it in a way you thought it was over
is okay just calm your nerves
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