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johnmedina999
Also sorry @mod if you were gonna do that, I couldn't wait, nor could I pass up the chance.
Lincolm
Hola!

Vote : Hika
because she is a meanie, so she must be a scum

Dawnsday haven't confirmed

Unofficial Vote Count
rEdo (L-3) : Hika, [ - Zekks - ]
Hika (L-3) : Zexion, Lincolm
[ - Zekks - ] (L-4) : rEdo
Not Voting : johnmedina999, Foxtrot, abraker, Dawnsday
Lincolm
Hey John, what does your PM colour have?
johnmedina999
It's mostly black text, if that's what you're asking.

Vote: Lincolm, I'm not that stupid.
johnmedina999
Please don't try to pick off the fresh meat just because it's juicy.
Zekks
pick off the meat when half of us are dead
Lincolm
That's logical answer. And no, I just ask if you get red or green colour, hoping you to answer red somehow.

Well-written flavour, though.
Lincolm
Hey Zekks, what do you think about John?
Zekks
idc, as long as I'm walking, there's no stopping for me 'w'
Lincolm

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

idc, as long as I'm alive, there's no way town win from me 'w'
FTFY
Zekks

Lincolm wrote:

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

idc, as long as I'm alive, there's no way town win from me 'w'
FTFY
do you wanna fight
Lincolm

Yep, let's fight.
abraker

Lincolm wrote:


Yep, let's fight.
Foxtrot

Lincolm wrote:

That's logical answer. And no, I just ask if you get red or green colour, hoping you to answer red somehow.

Well-written flavour, though.
why would he answer red? are you trying to distract us from actual scum and shift the attention to the new players?

Hey Zekks, what do you think about John?
this further proves my suspicion; stop trying to initiate a bandwagon, it's not working

Vote: Lincolm
Zekks
woah
Lincolm
I just want to know how experienced he is. He wrote really nice flavour for mafia but doesn't know RVS. Most people, even newbies, will know green and red are the expected answer, and some experienced people might be jokingly answer it by any means as it was in RVS. But I get John's POV, but your POV is same exactly same with him. Do you agree that he is newbie?

And no, I only asked read or opinion for actual contents. I don't see why John is scum by 2 fluff post and 2 actual content post that voting me.

Nice content anyway.
Lincolm
You don't want to vote me Zekks? A nice green fast wagon to jump in
Foxtrot
He wrote really nice flavour for mafia but doesn't know RVS.
doesn't take an experienced player to write good flavour

Do you agree that he is newbie?
yeah

Most people, even newbies, will know green and red are the expected answer, and some experienced people might be jokingly answer it by any means as it was in RVS
and because it's still RSV, I don't think he has any idea whether you're town or not, hence why he gave you a vague answer. to me, that makes perfect sense, he really has no reason to trust you.

i still don't understand why you asked about john to zekks. you could have asked anybody but you went straight for zekks

You don't want to vote me Zekks? A nice green fast wagon to jump in
what are you trying to accomplish
Lincolm
Ayyyy top page!

Foxtrot wrote:

doesn't take an experienced player to write good flavour
Maybe just me then.

Foxtrot wrote:

and because it's still RSV, I don't think he has any idea whether you're town or not, hence why he gave you a vague answer. to me, that makes perfect sense, he really has no reason to trust you.
Not vague, imo.

Foxtrot wrote:

i still don't understand why you asked about john to zekks. you could have asked anybody but you went straight for zekks
Because he was around. I like to engage someone who was around. If I want to ask who not online, I would put it later.

Foxtrot wrote:

what are you trying to accomplish
What do you think about Zekks, then? Am I wrong to engage to him? What should I ask to him?
Zekks
I would reconsider my vote, but I don't know to vote for

I might vote for Foxtrot, since she is trying to pin everyone on Lincolm, but that seems kinda weak, but I'll still hold onto that

Or I can change my vote to Lincolm, because Foxtrot has decent amount of evidence to support the fact that Lincolm could be the mafia
Lincolm
Okay fail top page. . . I'm stupid
Lincolm
It doesn't hurt me or Foxtrot if you vote me or Foxtrot.

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

I might vote for Foxtrot, since she is trying to pin everyone on Lincolm, but that seems kinda weak, but I'll still hold onto that
I think tunnelling is good in this condition, I like what he do.

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

Or I can change my vote to Lincolm, because Foxtrot has decent amount of evidence to support the fact that Lincolm could be the mafia
What do you think about my clarification?

Here is the unofficial vote count
Dawnsday haven't confirmed

Unofficial Vote Count
Lincolm (L-3) : johnmedina999, Foxtrot
rEdo (L-3) : Hika, [ - Zekks - ]
Hika (L-3) : Zexion, Lincolm
[ - Zekks - ] (L-4) : rEdo
Not Voting : abraker, Dawnsday
rEdo
[quote="[ - Zekks - ]"Or I can change my vote to Lincolm, because Foxtrot has decent amount of evidence to support the fact that Lincolm could be the mafia[/quote]

What do you mean by decent?
rEdo
wow are you serious that this quote box has fucked up LOL
rEdo

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

Or I can change my vote to Lincolm, because Foxtrot has decent amount of evidence to support the fact that Lincolm could be the mafia
What do you mean by decent?

(oh, I fucked it up.)
rEdo
Let this one be a lesson to new guys, too: DO NOT EDIT YOUR POSTS, even if you messed up your formatting. It's third-rate, the content and the intent to send such content is the meat that we want.
Foxtrot

Lincolm wrote:

Because he was around. I like to engage someone who was around. If I want to ask who not online, I would put it later.
fair enough

Lincolm wrote:

It doesn't hurt me or Foxtrot if you vote me or Foxtrot.
i like your confidence

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Lincolm wrote:

Not vague, imo.
well, you were expecting a red or green answer. he said mostly black. that can be seen as vague...

AND suspicious!!!

remember when i said:

Foxtrot wrote:

to me, that makes perfect sense, he really has no reason to trust you.
let me take that back.

he could have said green to win our trust, but he didn't. that can be seen as a redflag.

honestly, there's two possibilities here: he was scared of giving information away to you because he thought of you as scum, or to any other possible scum reading the thread. that's understandable. now, why would he think scum would target him right away, i don't know. it's not like he poses a certain threat. or does he? ANYHOW! like i said, because it's RSV there's simply not enough evidence to trust you, but that also counts for john.

the second one is simply this: he doesn't have green, so he was afraid of giving himself out.

yeah, voting for Lincolm was too rash. but hey, that's RSV for you. john actually didn't have any plausible reason to vote for you, except blatant paranoia.

or i must be going crazy...



by the way, thank you for your comments Lincolm. i haven't played mafia much, but i'm glad to see that i'm doing okay.

Zekks wrote:

idc, as long as I'm walking, there's no stopping for me 'w'
i missed this

why would you say that?
johnmedina999
I purposely did not give out any information because there was no real reason to. If someone asks for your credit card info, would you give it to them on the spot? I thought so. Also, I voted for him because RVS: there was no one to really vote for, no evidence to analyze yet, but the second he started fishing for an easy noob kill, it seems suspicious to me, and I voted.

Foxtrot, you confuse me. Hopping onto the first bandwagon that seemed plausible would be a scum thing to do (redo and Hika bandwagons are based on nothing), but I see you are starting to hop off it with your post, and going more neutral. My instincts tell me this is not a scum move, but there is also the possibility of you being Mafia and Lincolm being your partner: as soon as you saw Zekks thinking about hopping on the bandwagon, you saw that your partner being killed might be a certain possibility, and you hopped off the wagon to avoid that. That seems suspicious to me.

I still hold my vote against Lincolm, though, because even if going after fresh meat is a plausible thing to do, trying to create a bandwagon is scummy to me.
Foxtrot

John wrote:

I purposely did not give out any information because there was no real reason to. If someone asks for your credit card info, would you give it to them on the spot? I thought so
but you didn't say that you were town, either, so we're back to square one. we don't know who you are, so that's a good enough reason to not trust you.

John wrote:

Also, I voted for him because RVS: there was no one to really vote for, no evidence to analyze yet, but the second he started fishing for an easy noob kill, it seems suspicious to me, and I voted.
this is ONE of the possibilites i mentioned so i dont think i have to add anything to that

John wrote:

Foxtrot, you confuse me. Hopping onto the first bandwagon that seemed plausible would be a scum thing to do
are you trying to say that i mindlessly agreed with you? because that's not the case. i gave my reasons, and they just happened to concise with yours. until i read the thread over.

John wrote:

but I see you are starting to hop off it with your post, and going more neutral. My instincts tell me this is not a scum move, but there is also the possibility of you being Mafia and Lincolm being your partner: as soon as you saw Zekks thinking about hopping on the bandwagon, you saw that your partner being killed might be a certain possibility, and you hopped off the wagon to avoid that. That seems suspicious to me.
but i haven't even refrained my vote from Lincolm so you're contradicting yourself there.
no, i didn't hop off from any wagon, and i wasn't on any either.
i just think that the possibility of you being scum is as high as Lincolm's because you both acted fairly suspicious. but hey, you didn't go after rEdo when he voted for Zekks for simply being new. are you being hypocritical or are you partners with him?

honestly, you seem to forget that i posted TWO possibilites. that doesn't mean i stopped thinking that Lincolm is scum. like i said,

i just think that the possibility of you being scum is as high as Lincolm's because you both acted fairly suspicious.
Lincolm

Foxtrot wrote:

i like your confidence
Mafia game is full of doubt and naturally heated game. I'm trying to not mentally unbalanced like in the past. Confidence is just to hide my tantrums. Hope I do well in holding it.

Foxtrot wrote:

well, you were expecting a red or green answer. he said mostly black. that can be seen as vague...
Maybe I'm not clear enough in my explanation before. If he answered either red or green jokingly, it means he is experienced and vice versa.
Some experienced people might jokingly answered it with the expected answer, but newbie is not.

johnmedina999 wrote:

I still hold my vote against Lincolm, though, because even if going after fresh meat is a plausible thing to do, trying to create a bandwagon is scummy to me.
Mmmm... even though if you said red colour, did it makes everyone believe you're mafia and vice versa? Tbh, I'm not trying to create a bandwagon, but I'm trying to push everyone to get out from RVS and post actual content. Unfortunately, I don't have any reads to change my vote to serious vote.

Foxtrot wrote:

but hey, you didn't go after rEdo when he voted for Zekks for simply being new. are you being hypocritical or are you partners with him?
Basically, that was rEdo's RVS vote.

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@Zekks :
What do you think about Johnmedina999?

@abraker :
Why did you not join RVS? What do you think about me?
Lincolm
@Mod : May you please put this in your (most first) post?
Players ISO :
1. johnmedina999
2. Zexion
3. Dawnsday
4. Foxtrot
5. Hika
6. [ - Zekks - ]
7. Lincolm
8. abraker
9. rEdo

Mod ISO :
beeboy123
abraker

Lincolm wrote:

@abraker :
Why did you not join RVS? What do you think about me?
I am considering to vote for myself if I cannot come up with any conclusions in the next couple days because fuck RVS

You remind me of Sakura (who turned out to be town) from the previous game in some aspects. You seem to take the initiative, and I learned that if someone is pushing opinions or pulling strings here and there, it doesn't imply mafia.
Zexion
Too soon to be wallin'. Too much newbhunting and too little scumhunting.

Lincolm wrote:

That's logical answer. And no, I just ask if you get red or green colour, hoping you to answer red somehow.

Well-written flavour, though.
Lincolm plz, even the role PM's are up.

johnmedina999 wrote:

I purposely did not give out any information because there was no real reason to. If someone asks for your credit card info, would you give it to them on the spot? I thought so. Also, I voted for him because RVS: there was no one to really vote for, no evidence to analyze yet, but the second he started fishing for an easy noob kill, it seems suspicious to me, and I voted.

Foxtrot, you confuse me. Hopping onto the first bandwagon that seemed plausible would be a scum thing to do (redo and Hika bandwagons are based on nothing), but I see you are starting to hop off it with your post, and going more neutral. My instincts tell me this is not a scum move, but there is also the possibility of you being Mafia and Lincolm being your partner: as soon as you saw Zekks thinking about hopping on the bandwagon, you saw that your partner being killed might be a certain possibility, and you hopped off the wagon to avoid that. That seems suspicious to me.

I still hold my vote against Lincolm, though, because even if going after fresh meat is a plausible thing to do, trying to create a bandwagon is scummy to me.
It's way too soon to be assuming bandwagons mean something. I've seen games when players get to L-1 and it doesn't mean anything in particular. Also why do you assume rEdo and Hika wagons are "based on nothing"? Have you ever asked the reasons why is that?
johnmedina999
Well, I guess I meant nothing in this game. The first vote was for redo by Hika with no reasoning or previous posts, and you voted for Hika because she "didn't like my bastard game", which (to me) is not based on anything. Sure, cross-game interactions are valuable, but the reasoning isn't there. Now that you're here, may I ask if you have a different reason for voting for Hika?
Topic Starter
beeboy123
Day 1, VC 1

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to lynch!

Hika (3) - Zexion, Lincolm
Lincolm (1) - Foxtrot, johnmedina999
rEdo (2) - Hika, [ - Zekks - ]
[ - Zekks - ] (1) - rEdo
Not Voting (2) - Dawnsday, abraker

Mod Notes -

Deadline: https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/g ... nt=cursive
Hika
L0L
Dawns
Hello! Sorry for the delay. Catching up on everything now and will do the do
Hika
I read this when I get on my laptop! Eating dinner rn
Dawns
A Brief History of this mafia game thus far, authored by me.
https://image.prntscr.com/image/-UQ7l4aYRG6knsiOOuxHTA.png

Judging that I didn't skip a post/some super relevant info I'm in the neutral party currently: Lincolm attempted a..? Thing? and John responded with the choice to abstain from any info rather than straight up claiming his PM text was green.

John also seems to be willing to progress other lines of reading (see; his most recent post) whereas Lincolm has stuck to explaining his play. Nothing solid for me atm

My entire opinion on the entire "PM color" thing is that no matter what John responded (even red?), it couldn't be taken at face value ever. He responds green? Duh he's scum, or town. Leaving you with nothing. He responds with nor green nor red? Great, he's given you nothing. He responds red? He can simply claim he was trying to see how far you'd push him as a newb and how devoted you'd be to taking such info at face value. (Though I'm not sure I'd even consider this a possbility in hindsight, just pointing out that even in the most extreme of responses it could be played off.) therefore I think the entire concept of asking for his PM color was flawed in response.

Again, siding with neither of you on this one.

Foxtrot did the same amount of nosing around on the subject as I did so, neutral on her.
Dawns
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