Nekomata Master - Sennen no Kotowari · forum

celerih

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

celerih 2017-10-28T13:59:14+00:00

Mir wrote:
Gravity of the Moon
- 00:16:460 (3,4) - This and 00:19:206 (2,3,4) - ignore the slap-bass so much despite it really standing out. I wish at least they'd land on slider ends or something if you really don't want to make them clickable (but clickable would be nice.) 00:21:952 (1,3) - etc etc I concede
- 00:51:374 (5) - Would be nice to have 1/4 sliders here instead since it's a climax but the 1/2 slider here actually lowers that tension. Something like https://i.imgur.com/gFQXfTV.jpg done
- 01:35:702 (1,2) - Blanket! me2thanks
- 01:37:271 (1,2) - Shouldn't this be a bit more uncomfortable like the previous sliders? 01:34:133 (1,2) - referring to this this is the first time someone has told me to make movement more uncomfortable in my map and I'm so happy that I could cry. Finally someone gets me (':
- 01:44:332 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Not sure why you put a 4 note split here. If it's for the flute: firstly it's quite hard to hear, secondly, it should also be done at 01:49:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8). Personally, I'm not a fan of it and think it would be nice to just continue the 9 note streams since the flute is so barely audible in the back. Instead of a spit stream I had the second section have a bit higher ds. This imo is a more subtle way to still follow the pitch change of the flute, since I do think it stands out quite a lot

Novice
- 01:04:319 (1,2) - Why all of a sudden does spacing here drop so massively. Players might get confused over this and click much earlier than they should. I recommend keeping the DS as you did the first whole minute. I thought I fixed all of these woops. Done

Basic
- 01:34:133 (4,5,1) - Triangle here can be improved. triangled better

Thanks for the mod!
Updated all diffs

Mir

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Mir 2017-10-28T15:23:37+00:00

ok

seems metadoots were kwanfirmed at some point in the past

lets goo

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined June 2011

Lasse 2017-10-28T17:28:11+00:00

nice diff name
my main concern is how you handle a lot of the 1/6, things like 00:05:476 (2,1,2,3) - starting the 1/6 on that tick instead of 00:05:673 - is very ?? the thing about 1/6 is that you get 4 distinct sounds, but you made it simply a faster triple instead of 4 clicks, whereas something like https://i.imgur.com/1sKKaGh.jpg feels much more reflective of the song
(and imo it's also way nicer to play starting from a 1/2 tick)
this applies to a lot of other instances, like 00:55:885 - 01:08:438 - 01:17:461 - etc. (basically all spots where you have 1/6 triples)

you could argue that in there they are similar to 1/4 blue tick doubles (01:23:934 (3,4,5) - etc) but they play out so differently here imo

00:16:755 (4,5) - putting this below (2) would actually look so much cuter https://i.imgur.com/ZLtV4Jq.jpg
00:29:210 (4,5,6,7) - https://i.imgur.com/iVTVWS7.jpg is actually way nicer to play rhythmtically
00:51:374 (5) - would make so much sense to nc these
01:19:815 (9,10,1) - since melody picks up again here it you could have this different from before or even https://i.imgur.com/Nyhph4c.jpg
01:32:368 (9,10) - ^
01:20:991 (4,5) - triple would be nice here
01:26:581 - melody is picking up on blue tick so ^
01:30:079 (1,2) - this 1/6 feels way less supported by the song (melody) than your others
01:34:721 - offbeat melody

think https://i.imgur.com/9yOpYOH.jpg would be nice

like the diff overall, but the mentioned 1/6 stuff seemed a bit tilting to me

exhaust
hp6 would be nice
00:29:210 (5) - why not https://i.imgur.com/sabJNpJ.jpg ? think that works way better here
00:41:174 (2,3,4,5) - would rather make these into a repeat so stream starts again on the more outstanding 00:41:567 -
00:51:276 (4,1,2) - this is suddenly so much harsher

advanced
01:22:168 (2,3,4) - noticeably curving this looks really off when you other manual stack things looks so different
01:49:824 (1,2) - kinda lol to introduce 3/4 gaps like this so late. how about https://i.imgur.com/WhdM1Gz.jpg ? makes the transition much nicer imo

novice
00:51:766 (1) - would space or remove nc this looks a bit gross, actually https://i.imgur.com/HPI7CKE.jpg would be even better I think
01:56:101 (1) - ^

basic
01:15:303 (3,4,5,1) - could be misleading movement/visual spacing wise. 90° angles or https://i.imgur.com/gvVTO9K.jpg work better
01:20:011 (1,2,3) - similar
your other triangles are more clear due to movement into them, but these can really throw of beginners
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can qualify if you're willing to change the 1/6 things or bring out some convincing reasoning to keep them as triples
though I think actually mapping 1/6 quads would be more intuitive to play and reflect the song better

Realazy

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Realazy 2017-10-28T17:46:51+00:00

Lasse wrote:
exhaust
hp6 would be nice
00:29:210 (5) - why not https://i.imgur.com/sabJNpJ.jpg ? think that works way better here i'd like to keep what i currently have, the reason for that being that i want to emphasize the 1/3 triple by making it clickable, and it would be too tricky to play with a 1/6 repeat slider before that, or turning it into 2 sliders as you suggested wouldn't emphasize it enough

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2017-10-28T18:19:20+00:00

fixed both via Discord with Lasse

updoot

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HabiHolic

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HabiHolic 2017-10-30T00:29:22+00:00

:3

defiance

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defiance 2017-11-01T16:21:38+00:00

i think you should add ultima to the tags cause he hitsounded it

celerih

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celerih 2017-11-11T17:19:08+00:00

~~Note to self: don't forget to change Real's BG~~ done!

Lasse wrote:

nice diff name
my main concern is how you handle a lot of the 1/6, things like 00:05:476 (2,1,2,3) - starting the 1/6 on that tick instead of 00:05:673 - is very ?? the thing about 1/6 is that you get 4 distinct sounds, but you made it simply a faster triple instead of 4 clicks, whereas something like https://i.imgur.com/1sKKaGh.jpg feels much more reflective of the song
(and imo it's also way nicer to play starting from a 1/2 tick)
this applies to a lot of other instances, like 00:55:885 - 01:08:438 - 01:17:461 - etc. (basically all spots where you have 1/6 triples)

At first I wa a bit hesistant to actually change this, but after testing myself and getting some feedback, this way the 1/6 becomes much clearer and plays really like 1/6 instead of just fast 1/4, so I'll change it

you could argue that in there they are similar to 1/4 blue tick doubles (01:23:934 (3,4,5) - etc) but they play out so differently here imo

00:16:755 (4,5) - putting this below (2) would actually look so much cuter https://i.imgur.com/ZLtV4Jq.jpg done for ultimate cuteness
00:29:210 (4,5,6,7) - https://i.imgur.com/iVTVWS7.jpg is actually way nicer to play rhythmtically done
00:51:374 (5) - would make so much sense to nc these NC'ed
01:19:815 (9,10,1) - since melody picks up again here it you could have this different from before or even https://i.imgur.com/Nyhph4c.jpg
01:32:368 (9,10) - ^
01:20:991 (4,5) - triple would be nice here done
01:26:581 - melody is picking up on blue tick so ^ that kind of weird boop sound there feels really out of place, mapping it wouldn't work well with the main melody
01:30:079 (1,2) - this 1/6 feels way less supported by the song (melody) than your others since only that alst 1/6 tick is supported I guess I can put a slider to it and hope people don't get too triggered by the 1/6 and not 1/4
01:34:721 - offbeat melody think https://i.imgur.com/9yOpYOH.jpg would be nice done

like the diff overall, but the mentioned 1/6 stuff seemed a bit tilting to me

novice
00:51:766 (1) - would space or remove nc this looks a bit gross, actually https://i.imgur.com/HPI7CKE.jpg would be even better I think did like you proposed
01:56:101 (1) - ^ spaced out

basic
01:15:303 (3,4,5,1) - could be misleading movement/visual spacing wise. 90° angles or https://i.imgur.com/gvVTO9K.jpg work better
01:20:011 (1,2,3) - similar
your other triangles are more clear due to movement into them, but these can really throw of beginners fixed both

can qualify if you're willing to change the 1/6 things or bring out some convincing reasoning to keep them as triples
though I think actually mapping 1/6 quads would be more intuitive to play and reflect the song better

All updated + added ultima in tags

Mir

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Mir 2017-11-12T01:52:28+00:00

Decided it might be better to recheck this.

Top: 00:57:454 (2) - could remove for flute stuff but optional
01:34:819 - really faint noise here and 01:22:266 - also rhythm 01:34:133 (1,2,3) - 01:21:580 (1,2,3) -

confirming tags added

waiting for reply, if no changes i can rebub

Lasse

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Lasse 2017-11-12T12:00:18+00:00

agree with mir for the first thing, would nicely differentiate it from 00:54:316 (2) -

for some reason 00:05:673 (1,2,3,4) - looks a bit broken ingame
00:55:885 (1,2,3,4) - is really broken

celerih

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celerih 2017-11-14T23:35:32+00:00

Fixed all, except the faint noises because there's super unoticeable, aaaanndd updated

Mir

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Mir 2017-11-14T23:45:50+00:00

Sendan no Kotowari

Lasse

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Lasse 2017-11-15T23:58:51+00:00

q

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Aurele 2017-11-16T00:00:55+00:00

woo

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defiance 2017-11-16T02:53:15+00:00

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Seijiro 2017-11-16T17:16:22+00:00

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Dailycare

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Dailycare 2017-11-19T01:31:26+00:00

01:17:461 (1,2,3,4) - Why did you use 1/6 here? I think a sound is at 01:17:608 -
01:29:818 (2) - Same

celerih

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celerih 2017-11-19T01:40:38+00:00

Dailycare wrote:
01:17:461 (1,2,3,4) - Why did you use 1/6 here? I think a sound is at 01:17:608 - Don't know why this is as 4 1/6 notes, it's indeed wrong, fixed by making the same as 01:29:818 (2) -
01:29:818 (2) - Same The sound here does end on the 1/6 tick, not the 1/8 tick

Thanks for the suggestions, will get it DQ'ed to fix

Naxess

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Naxess 2017-11-19T02:30:21+00:00

yes

Mir

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Mir 2017-11-19T02:38:45+00:00