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angela - Zenryoku*Summer! TV Size [Taiko]

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Nifty
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, September 22, 2017 at 2:00:32 PM

Artist: angela
Title: Zenryoku*Summer! TV Size
Source: アホガール
Tags: aho ahogaru clueless girl anime op opening
BPM: 158
Filesize: 2343kb
Play Time: 00:56
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (1.91 stars, 138 notes)
  2. Muzukashii (2.58 stars, 205 notes)
  3. Oni (3.54 stars, 298 notes)
  4. Inner Oni (4.32 stars, 369 notes)
  5. Kantan (1.25 stars, 76 notes)
Download: angela - Zenryoku*Summer! TV Size
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banana

Vulkin
ayylmao
Topic Starter
Nifty

Vulkin wrote:

ayylmao
Can I be Mitsuho
Vulkin

Nifty wrote:

Vulkin wrote:

ayylmao

Can I be Mitsuho


sure
ill be takiyaki then
Vulkin
OK doing ze mod for thanks for the timing or idk for the same song LOL

-Kantan-
00:03:803 (6) - finisher? symbolize start of song (previous was like intro idk)
00:14:436 - having d kdkk 1/1 is ok i think, and it fits
00:36:249 - a d might fit here, wont it?
00:48:021 (38,39,40,41,42) - might want to replace slider from here to 00:49:540 - , ignoring those laughs, i dont think they're necessary to follow in this song anyway lol
00:54:097 - will following those notes with the change of BPM be ok? at least for new players

-Futsuu-
00:03:044 (6,7,8) - might wanna remove the finishers for those notes, a bit overdoing it, and maybe make 00:03:803 (9) - finisher? seems more worth it
00:09:310 (23) - make this k for variability? different from 00:06:082 - owo
00:19:183 (50) - k so its consistent with 00:16:145 (42) - ?
00:48:021 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76) - might want to replace slider from here to 00:49:540 - , ignoring those laughs, i dont think they're necessary to follow in this song anyway lol
00:54:097 - will following those notes with the change of BPM be ok? diff is still relatively low

-Muzukashii-
00:04:943 - why not d k ddd k d k k k so the ddd's are consistent with one another? only one kkk in this part is a bit weird imo
00:49:730 (112,113,114,115) - i dont think its necessary to follow this

-Oni-
00:49:730 (170,171,172,173) - i dont think its necessary to follow this
its very good lol

-Inner Baka Oni-
00:19:563 - ddkkdkd might be better here, theres noise on the empty part
00:49:730 (191,192,193,194) - i dont think its necessary to follow this

good luck for ur map
Topic Starter
Nifty

Vulkin wrote:

OK doing ze mod for thanks for the timing or idk for the same song LOL

-Kantan-
00:03:803 (6) - finisher? symbolize start of song (previous was like intro idk) ain't nothin different
00:14:436 - having d kdkk 1/1 is ok i think, and it fits 4 1/1s is inconsistent with the rest
00:36:249 - a d might fit here, wont it? sure
00:48:021 (38,39,40,41,42) - might want to replace slider from here to 00:49:540 - , ignoring those laughs, i dont think they're necessary to follow in this song anyway lol deleted. no slider cause there's nothing to roll on
00:54:097 - will following those notes with the change of BPM be ok? at least for new players it's so spaced it shouldn't matter

-Futsuu-
00:03:044 (6,7,8) - might wanna remove the finishers for those notes, a bit overdoing it, and maybe make 00:03:803 (9) - finisher? seems more worth it the 3 k's can begin appearing here
00:09:310 (23) - make this k for variability? different from 00:06:082 - owo not supported by drums :/
00:19:183 (50) - k so its consistent with 00:16:145 (42) - ? the voice here doesn't support the middle note as much as before, so I make it d
00:48:021 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76) - might want to replace slider from here to 00:49:540 - , ignoring those laughs, i dont think they're necessary to follow in this song anyway lol deleted. no slider cause there's nothing to roll on
00:54:097 - will following those notes with the change of BPM be ok? diff is still relatively low it's a pretty deliberate slowdown, at a slow scroll speed, so it's fine

-Muzukashii-
00:04:943 - why not d k ddd k d k k k so the ddd's are consistent with one another? only one kkk in this part is a bit weird imo oke I did somethin
00:49:730 (112,113,114,115) - i dont think its necessary to follow this I do

-Oni-
00:49:730 (170,171,172,173) - i dont think its necessary to follow this I do
its very good lol

-Inner Baka Oni-
00:19:563 - ddkkdkd might be better here, theres noise on the empty part not over-complicating it to match the previous vocal phrases
00:49:730 (191,192,193,194) - i dont think its necessary to follow this I do

good luck for ur map
good luck u 2 lol
Midnaait
Hey, from my modding queue
// = Suggestion
Bold = Needs to change


[General]


I'd punch the HP a bit higher on all diffs, OD:4 for an Inner Oni with less than 400 notes is waaay too easy to pass lol


[Kantan]


00:24:477 - This note feels weird here, I'd delete it or move it to 00:23:324
If you moved the note, change 00:22:919 to k
00:26:376 - Shouldn't this be k? Look at 00:38:528 - it's the same sound and it's mapped like kkd

Overall nice diff


[Futsuu]


00:09:310 - // Change to k? For a bit of variety and because of drums
00:17:854 - Change to d, voice pitch never changes, also it'd contrast well with

the previous section
00:52:958 (79,80,81,82) - k dkd? Flows way better imo


[Muzukashii]


00:02:854 - // Optional, you can remove this to emphasize the finishers
00:17:095 - Change to d? It'd make more sense since (kdk dkd) and then (ddk kkd)
00:26:566 - Change to k? Consistency with 00:38:718 -
00:44:224 (90,91,92,93,94) - kkddk sounds better, as it follows both the vocals and the harp lol
00:52:578 (122,123) - Ctrl+g these


[Oni]


Nerf needed?

00:02:379 - You don't really need this note because I'm supposing you're following melody lol
00:12:348 - Change to k? Pitch on melody changes more on the next note than on this
00:17:949 (109,110) - // Opinion, but I think it'd be better if you remove these to emphasize the vocals
00:27:705 - This kind of structure feels really off in this part (xx xxxx regardless of colours), and the song technically doesn't call for it, so I'd change it to odd patterns (triplets or 5plets, as you like)
00:42:895 - ^


[Inner Oni]


00:04:278 - Assuming you're following vocals, delete this note since there's a break
00:08:835 - Change to k? It'd flow better into the 1/6
00:35:395 - k? trumpet pls

Not much to say here rip

That's all, good luck! :)
Topic Starter
Nifty

Midnaait wrote:

Hey, from my modding queue
// = Suggestion
Bold = Needs to change


[General]


I'd punch the HP a bit higher on all diffs, OD:4 for an Inner Oni with less than 400 notes is waaay too easy to pass lol


[Kantan]


00:24:477 - This note feels weird here, I'd delete it or move it to 00:23:324
If you moved the note, change 00:22:919 to k
00:26:376 - Shouldn't this be k? Look at 00:38:528 - it's the same sound and it's mapped like kkd

Overall nice diff


[Futsuu]


00:09:310 - // Change to k? For a bit of variety and because of drums
00:17:854 - Change to d, voice pitch never changes, also it'd contrast well with the previous section gotta love that trumpet sound
00:52:958 (79,80,81,82) - k dkd? Flows way better imo


[Muzukashii]


00:02:854 - // Optional, you can remove this to emphasize the finishers
00:17:095 - Change to d? It'd make more sense since (kdk dkd) and then (ddk kkd)
00:26:566 - Change to k? Consistency with 00:38:718 -
00:44:224 (90,91,92,93,94) - kkddk sounds better, as it follows both the vocals and the harp lol
00:52:578 (122,123) - Ctrl+g these


[Oni]


Nerf needed?

00:02:379 - You don't really need this note because I'm supposing you're following melody lol
00:12:348 - Change to k? Pitch on melody changes more on the next note than on this
00:17:949 (109,110) - // Opinion, but I think it'd be better if you remove these to emphasize the vocals
00:27:705 - This kind of structure feels really off in this part (xx xxxx regardless of colours), and the song technically doesn't call for it, so I'd change it to odd patterns (triplets or 5plets, as you like)
00:42:895 - ^
Kinda remapped this diff a little big in some places kinda


[Inner Oni]


00:04:278 - Assuming you're following vocals, delete this note since there's a break
00:08:835 - Change to k? It'd flow better into the 1/6
00:35:395 - k? trumpet pls

Not much to say here rip hehe yes >:)

That's all, good luck! :)
ty for mod, everything I didn't comment on helped ^^
Lumenite-
peep 2 kudosu
nm from queue

[Kantan]
I can't find anything too wrong here. 4/1 breaks could be more prominent as 2/1 breaks are more common here, but that's the only thing I can really comment abount.

[Futsuu]
There's nothing here I can say either.

[Muzukashii]
There's only 1 2/1 break in the song. It's not even a minute, yeah, but still.
00:05:133 (17) - I think getting rid of this note (and repeating the same deletion throughout the intro) sounds better and gives a tiny bit more emphasis on the triplet
00:23:718 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - I think you should map SOMETHING in the futsuu for this, because there's nothing for this in the futsuu but there's notes here. Like 1 or 2 notes would do just fine.
00:49:730 (112,113,114,115) - there's a timing/snapping issue here because if you slow it down to 25% the notes are not in time with the vocal you're trying to emphasize.

[Oni]
00:19:753 (113,114,115,116) - This is very clearly a 5 note pattern, not a double + double.
In general, muzu kiai -> oni kiai is also kind of weird in spread, there's only 1/2 in muzu but quite a bit of 1/4 in the regular oni. I suggest finding places similar to the ones in oni to put monocolor 1/4 in the muzu.
00:49:730 (153,154,155,156) - please fix this omg

[Inner Oni]
00:08:930 (61,62,63,64) - Yeah it might be for effect but it's dumb. It's literally the only 1/6 in the map.
00:44:224 (146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154) - Oversaturated, could easily be condensed to something like kkddk d k for the same general effect

ok
Topic Starter
Nifty

Taikocracy wrote:

peep 2 kudosu
nm from queue

[Kantan]
I can't find anything too wrong here. 4/1 breaks could be more prominent as 2/1 breaks are more common here, but that's the only thing I can really comment abount. hehe xd

[Futsuu]
There's nothing here I can say either. gg futsuu easy

[Muzukashii]
There's only 1 2/1 break in the song. It's not even a minute, yeah, but still.
00:05:133 (17) - I think getting rid of this note (and repeating the same deletion throughout the intro) sounds better and gives a tiny bit more emphasis on the triplet ye ok
00:23:718 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - I think you should map SOMETHING in the futsuu for this, because there's nothing for this in the futsuu but there's notes here. Like 1 or 2 notes would do just fine. there's like 00:22:513 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this
00:49:730 (112,113,114,115) - there's a timing/snapping issue here because if you slow it down to 25% the notes are not in time with the vocal you're trying to emphasize. yeah, I'm just not gonna map those

[Oni]
00:19:753 (113,114,115,116) - This is very clearly a 5 note pattern, not a double + double. since the main focus here is vocal, I map here to emphasize the vocal ^^ it reflects well with the previous vocal 00:18:234 (103,104,105,106) - so changing this one which sounds almost identical may seem out of place
In general, muzu kiai -> oni kiai is also kind of weird in spread, there's only 1/2 in muzu but quite a bit of 1/4 in the regular oni. I suggest finding places similar to the ones in oni to put monocolor 1/4 in the muzu.
00:49:730 (153,154,155,156) - please fix this omg remove kebab

[Inner Oni]
00:08:930 (61,62,63,64) - Yeah it might be for effect but it's dumb. It's literally the only 1/6 in the map. I like it there, it's not hard to play, and it ain't my fault angela only used that conga flair once in the song
00:44:224 (146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154) - Oversaturated, could easily be condensed to something like kkddk d k for the same general effect u got me there

ok
ty hun
DeletedUser_4212641
Hi, small mod from queue due to lack of free time

[Futsuu]
Move 00:37:768 (42) - to 00:38:528 (44) - and change it to d!

[Oni]
Making two doubles instead of 00:52:009 (159,160,161,162) - ?

[Inner]
Test this in 00:08:930 (61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68) -

Hope it helps a little

edit: I did not do this "quickly", I seriously take my time but I dont have more to view Muzu correctly, sorry. Kantan is fine
Topic Starter
Nifty

Vyiuri wrote:

Hi, small mod from queue due to lack of free time

[Futsuu]
Move 00:37:768 (42) - to 00:38:528 (44) - and change it to d! I'm not sure what this means, so no.

[Oni]
Making two doubles instead of 00:52:009 (159,160,161,162) - ? Also not sure what this means, doubles where? there's no rhythm that has doubles.

[Inner]
Test this in 00:08:930 (61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68) - 1/4 to 1/6 to 1/3? I'm mapping to vocals here, the 1/6th is for effect in part of the congas.

Hope it helps a little

edit: I did not do this "quickly", I seriously take my time but I dont have more to view Muzu correctly, sorry. Kantan is fine
ty for small mod
Dainesl
short IRC "mod" with Nifty deny me all you want bitch xd

Look here.
2017-09-04 10:58 Dain: test
2017-09-04 10:58 Nifty: OWO
2017-09-04 10:58 Dain: okay great uh
2017-09-04 10:58 Nifty: HI IRC LOG
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: first lemme check metadata and shit
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: i think it should be fine...
2017-09-04 10:59 Nifty: you know what you should do is do it over discord and then screenshot it all and post it
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: no because that takes way too much effort and way too many screenshots
2017-09-04 10:59 Nifty: if it isn't fine I'm shooting myself in the foot with a blowdart
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: I'll just get the log transcript
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: also if you're gonna have op put opening in tags I guess
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: just helps with arbitrary searching
2017-09-04 11:00 Nifty: what if i just delete all the tags like a nofool map
2017-09-04 11:00 Dain: then i will not care
2017-09-04 11:00 Nifty: ok cool
2017-09-04 11:00 Dain: okay now for actual shit
2017-09-04 11:01 Dain: given that the song is really really short, i'd propose increasing the HP on every diff by 1 (6-6-7-8-9) or, alternatively...
2017-09-04 11:01 Dain: make Kantan-Muzu OD 3-4-4.5?
2017-09-04 11:01 Dain: or something?
2017-09-04 11:01 Dain: kantan doesn't need to be od2 even if it is that easy
2017-09-04 11:02 Nifty: what if i just made kanta nand futsuu the same
2017-09-04 11:02 Dain: nah because Futsuu is noticeably harder
2017-09-04 11:02 Nifty: also owo hp 9
2017-09-04 11:02 Dain: or maybe just make k-m 0.5 higher instead
2017-09-04 11:02 Dain: idk
2017-09-04 11:03 Dain: aight anyways
2017-09-04 11:03 Nifty: changed to 3 4 4.5 ye
2017-09-04 11:04 Dain: 00:02:284 (8,9,10,11,12) - I find this pattern to be a bit weird, I'm listening to it and it sounds a little more like xx xxxx rather than xxxxx
2017-09-04 11:04 Dain: like, the drummy sounds are way more emphasised on 00:02:284 (8,9) - and 00:02:569 (11,12) - than 00:02:474 (10) -
2017-09-04 11:05 Dain: in fact removing 00:02:474 (10) - would give more emphasis for that rather than blending in together
2017-09-04 11:05 Dain: imo
2017-09-04 11:05 Dain: try it
2017-09-04 11:05 Nifty: mhm it was like that earlier
2017-09-04 11:05 Dain: what made ya change it
2017-09-04 11:06 Nifty: but removing the 10 reveals a pretty noticeable sound
2017-09-04 11:06 Dain: it's noticeable sure but it gets drowned out a little
2017-09-04 11:07 Nifty: eh I removed it because offfffff
2017-09-04 11:07 Nifty: 00:19:943 -
2017-09-04 11:07 Dain: 00:19:943 - has an actual swish sound though that's very noticeable
2017-09-04 11:07 Dain: implying a k
2017-09-04 11:07 Dain: in fact it's like the main thing
2017-09-04 11:08 Dain: i can't hear such a sound back at the beginning
2017-09-04 11:08 Nifty: consistency with vocals ecks dee
2017-09-04 11:08 Dain: anyways
2017-09-04 11:09 Dain: 00:05:322 (31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39) - i'd suggest making this bit of the stream a bit more don-heavy than the other half, by which i mean maybe add one or two more dons instead of kats
2017-09-04 11:09 Dain: because the overall pitch of the vocals (not sure about instrumentation) seems a bit
2017-09-04 11:09 Dain: lower
2017-09-04 11:10 Dain: i'm assuming you're focusing on vocals here right
2017-09-04 11:10 Nifty: the kats are mapped the the emphasized vocal rhythm
2017-09-04 11:10 Nifty: there's noticeable emphasis on the beats the kats are on
2017-09-04 11:10 Dain: mhm
2017-09-04 11:10 Dain: 00:05:797 (36) - but this bit i'm not sure about
2017-09-04 11:11 Dain: maybe the runover from the instrumentation but like
2017-09-04 11:11 Dain: you could emphasise that bit more by just having the one kat instead of 2 imo
2017-09-04 11:11 Nifty: yeah it goes guru guru or whatever right
2017-09-04 11:11 Nifty: one guru is higher than the other mhm
2017-09-04 11:11 Dain: yeah, but the "ru" in the first one
2017-09-04 11:11 Dain: is lower
2017-09-04 11:12 Dain: it goes high-medlow-medium-low
2017-09-04 11:12 Dain: kinda
2017-09-04 11:12 Nifty: and the gu on the next one is even lower tho
2017-09-04 11:12 Dain: yes
2017-09-04 11:12 Dain: that's why medlow -> low
2017-09-04 11:13 Dain: 00:09:215 (64) - a similar thing here actually
2017-09-04 11:13 Nifty: the drum thing goes k d k there
2017-09-04 11:13 Nifty: so kkddk for the fill is what goes there
2017-09-04 11:13 Dain: yeah
2017-09-04 11:14 Dain: that's fine
2017-09-04 11:15 Dain: 00:13:392 (97) - this one feels like it should be a don too imo but my second thought is the vocals, because there's kind of like a mix here?
2017-09-04 11:15 Dain: the instrumentation kinda suggests d but the vocals suggest k?
2017-09-04 11:15 Nifty: ye so it doesn't matter
2017-09-04 11:15 Dain: but given how there's like a mix between the two styles here i don't know if i can really call this a suggestion and more of a "what do you think"
2017-09-04 11:16 Nifty: I think it'll play either way being the streams are so slow
2017-09-04 11:16 Nifty: wow that's a new way to spell because
2017-09-04 11:16 Dain: yeah
2017-09-04 11:16 Dain: LOL
2017-09-04 11:17 Dain: 00:17:095 (125) - I'd say definitely don here because the drum from earlier is more deep and resonating, plus it contrasts with 00:16:715 (122) - where it's significantly higher pitch
2017-09-04 11:17 Dain: also vocals get lower
2017-09-04 11:17 Dain: high drum, high vocals, k / deep drum, low vocals, d
2017-09-04 11:17 Dain: ye?
2017-09-04 11:17 Nifty: fine I switched them
2017-09-04 11:18 Dain: no I mean
2017-09-04 11:18 Dain: 00:16:715 (122) - this stays as k
2017-09-04 11:18 Dain: 00:17:095 (125) - this becomes d
2017-09-04 11:18 Dain: or are you on about something else here?
2017-09-04 11:19 Nifty: nah dkk ddk because the vocals deserve emphasis, not pitch relevance
2017-09-04 11:19 Dain: alright
2017-09-04 11:19 Dain: that's cool
2017-09-04 11:20 Nifty: the rest work that way anyways lel
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: yeah
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: that sounds pretty good to me
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: 00:22:783 (3) - what about this one?
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: because it sounds kinda similar to 2
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: was thinking it could be k, unless you wanted to have like
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: only the very highest pitch be k
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: in that
2017-09-04 11:21 Nifty: it's the same note as 1
2017-09-04 11:21 Nifty: :think:
2017-09-04 11:21 Dain: oh yeah durr
2017-09-04 11:21 Nifty: bazinga
2017-09-04 11:21 Dain: i was focused on 2 too much lmao
2017-09-04 11:21 Dain: b a z i n g a
2017-09-04 11:22 Nifty: this mod is gonna be thicc mami but it's just us saying bazinga
2017-09-04 11:22 Nifty: kds denied
2017-09-04 11:22 Dain: xd
2017-09-04 11:22 Dain: 00:38:148 (100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108) - again was thinking that this stream could be represented differently unless you wanted to specifically focus on the drum
2017-09-04 11:23 Nifty: the trumpet
2017-09-04 11:23 Dain: it sounded drummy
2017-09-04 11:23 Dain: i removed it and it still sounded drummy
2017-09-04 11:23 Nifty: trumpet is the only moving part there so emphasis to it mhm
2017-09-04 11:24 Dain: there's like 2 bits where the trumpet was playing and the other bits were like
2017-09-04 11:24 Dain: backing instrumentation
2017-09-04 11:24 Dain: but in general the b.i. is like that yeah
2017-09-04 11:24 Nifty: I mean taiko is a drum game
2017-09-04 11:24 Dain: you wanna keep it like that?
2017-09-04 11:24 Nifty: I like the pattern
2017-09-04 11:25 Dain: meh
2017-09-04 11:25 Dain: it's a harmless pattern so i'm not concerned about how it looks
2017-09-04 11:26 Dain: i think this might be the last thing but
2017-09-04 11:26 Dain: 00:49:445 - was considering about adding a note here because there seems to be like this sound that's just absent in the map
2017-09-04 11:26 Dain: even playtesting it where the taiko notes should drown it out
2017-09-04 11:26 Dain: it doesn't fully do that so it sounds a bit empty
2017-09-04 11:27 Nifty: that's because there's no sound there
2017-09-04 11:27 Dain: no there is a sound, even if it's just the runover from the previous instrumentation
2017-09-04 11:27 Dain: i'm listening to it and I can definitely hear that
2017-09-04 11:27 Nifty: it's a cutoff which is lame and ending a stream on a blue tick is wonky as hell
2017-09-04 11:27 Nifty: especially with the rest of the map being on whites and reds
2017-09-04 11:28 Dain: well I mean this is the only time the song does this anyways
2017-09-04 11:28 Dain: just like how there was 1 instance of 1/3s
2017-09-04 11:28 Dain: not saying that justifies the note fully but like
2017-09-04 11:28 Dain: was just thinking about it like that
2017-09-04 11:28 Nifty: yeah people will miss it thinking the stream ends normally when it doesn't
2017-09-04 11:29 Nifty: also that cymbal cuts off on the white tick so
2017-09-04 11:29 Dain: i'm inclined to disagree with that given that people who play onis such as this
2017-09-04 11:29 Dain: would be used to more unorthodox patterns
2017-09-04 11:29 Dain: and would have semi-proficient reading at medium bpm
2017-09-04 11:29 Nifty: eh but there's no sound
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: if you want to leave that bit for sound purposes that's fine but it wouldn't make the map hard in any way
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: imo that's a bit disingenuous to imply
2017-09-04 11:30 Nifty: and the stream cuts off with the last drum hit
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: ye
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: i suppose
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: either way though that is indeed the last thing I feel like commenting on in that
2017-09-04 11:30 Nifty: onii
2017-09-04 11:31 Dain: actually no i have another thing and that would be just to double check the timing particularly at the end, i swear one or two notes sound slightly late
2017-09-04 11:32 Dain: 00:56:347 (218) - like this sounds a tiny bit late relative to 00:55:864 (217) -
2017-09-04 11:32 Dain: actually no wait
2017-09-04 11:32 Dain: i'm a dumbass because i accidentally did something weird
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: nvm
2017-09-04 11:33 Nifty: yee
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: good to know that i haven't changed in the 5 years i've played this game
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: anyways given that this map is actually, you know
2017-09-04 11:33 Nifty: it will sound late on 25% because the perceived beat it later than the actual beat
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: competent
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: and the fact that i wanna do something important right now
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: i trust that the lower diffs are all kinda good
2017-09-04 11:33 Nifty: owo
2017-09-04 11:34 Dain: this is really all i have to say for now so uhhh
2017-09-04 11:34 Nifty: nice 1 diff mod kds DENIED
2017-09-04 11:34 Dain: sorry to disappoint LOL
2017-09-04 11:34 Nifty: D E N I E D
2017-09-04 11:34 Dain: I'll be banking that KD like a mofo tyvm xdddd
Topic Starter
Nifty

Dain wrote:

short IRC "mod" with Nifty deny me all you want bitch xd

Look here.
2017-09-04 10:58 Dain: test
2017-09-04 10:58 Nifty: OWO
2017-09-04 10:58 Dain: okay great uh
2017-09-04 10:58 Nifty: HI IRC LOG
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: first lemme check metadata and shit
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: i think it should be fine...
2017-09-04 10:59 Nifty: you know what you should do is do it over discord and then screenshot it all and post it
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: no because that takes way too much effort and way too many screenshots
2017-09-04 10:59 Nifty: if it isn't fine I'm shooting myself in the foot with a blowdart
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: I'll just get the log transcript
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: also if you're gonna have op put opening in tags I guess
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: just helps with arbitrary searching
2017-09-04 11:00 Nifty: what if i just delete all the tags like a nofool map
2017-09-04 11:00 Dain: then i will not care
2017-09-04 11:00 Nifty: ok cool
2017-09-04 11:00 Dain: okay now for actual shit
2017-09-04 11:01 Dain: given that the song is really really short, i'd propose increasing the HP on every diff by 1 (6-6-7-8-9) or, alternatively...
2017-09-04 11:01 Dain: make Kantan-Muzu OD 3-4-4.5?
2017-09-04 11:01 Dain: or something?
2017-09-04 11:01 Dain: kantan doesn't need to be od2 even if it is that easy
2017-09-04 11:02 Nifty: what if i just made kanta nand futsuu the same
2017-09-04 11:02 Dain: nah because Futsuu is noticeably harder
2017-09-04 11:02 Nifty: also owo hp 9
2017-09-04 11:02 Dain: or maybe just make k-m 0.5 higher instead
2017-09-04 11:02 Dain: idk
2017-09-04 11:03 Dain: aight anyways
2017-09-04 11:03 Nifty: changed to 3 4 4.5 ye
2017-09-04 11:04 Dain: 00:02:284 (8,9,10,11,12) - I find this pattern to be a bit weird, I'm listening to it and it sounds a little more like xx xxxx rather than xxxxx
2017-09-04 11:04 Dain: like, the drummy sounds are way more emphasised on 00:02:284 (8,9) - and 00:02:569 (11,12) - than 00:02:474 (10) -
2017-09-04 11:05 Dain: in fact removing 00:02:474 (10) - would give more emphasis for that rather than blending in together
2017-09-04 11:05 Dain: imo
2017-09-04 11:05 Dain: try it
2017-09-04 11:05 Nifty: mhm it was like that earlier
2017-09-04 11:05 Dain: what made ya change it
2017-09-04 11:06 Nifty: but removing the 10 reveals a pretty noticeable sound
2017-09-04 11:06 Dain: it's noticeable sure but it gets drowned out a little
2017-09-04 11:07 Nifty: eh I removed it because offfffff
2017-09-04 11:07 Nifty: 00:19:943 -
2017-09-04 11:07 Dain: 00:19:943 - has an actual swish sound though that's very noticeable
2017-09-04 11:07 Dain: implying a k
2017-09-04 11:07 Dain: in fact it's like the main thing
2017-09-04 11:08 Dain: i can't hear such a sound back at the beginning
2017-09-04 11:08 Nifty: consistency with vocals ecks dee
2017-09-04 11:08 Dain: anyways
2017-09-04 11:09 Dain: 00:05:322 (31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39) - i'd suggest making this bit of the stream a bit more don-heavy than the other half, by which i mean maybe add one or two more dons instead of kats
2017-09-04 11:09 Dain: because the overall pitch of the vocals (not sure about instrumentation) seems a bit
2017-09-04 11:09 Dain: lower
2017-09-04 11:10 Dain: i'm assuming you're focusing on vocals here right
2017-09-04 11:10 Nifty: the kats are mapped the the emphasized vocal rhythm
2017-09-04 11:10 Nifty: there's noticeable emphasis on the beats the kats are on
2017-09-04 11:10 Dain: mhm
2017-09-04 11:10 Dain: 00:05:797 (36) - but this bit i'm not sure about
2017-09-04 11:11 Dain: maybe the runover from the instrumentation but like
2017-09-04 11:11 Dain: you could emphasise that bit more by just having the one kat instead of 2 imo
2017-09-04 11:11 Nifty: yeah it goes guru guru or whatever right
2017-09-04 11:11 Nifty: one guru is higher than the other mhm
2017-09-04 11:11 Dain: yeah, but the "ru" in the first one
2017-09-04 11:11 Dain: is lower
2017-09-04 11:12 Dain: it goes high-medlow-medium-low
2017-09-04 11:12 Dain: kinda
2017-09-04 11:12 Nifty: and the gu on the next one is even lower tho
2017-09-04 11:12 Dain: yes
2017-09-04 11:12 Dain: that's why medlow -> low
2017-09-04 11:13 Dain: 00:09:215 (64) - a similar thing here actually
2017-09-04 11:13 Nifty: the drum thing goes k d k there
2017-09-04 11:13 Nifty: so kkddk for the fill is what goes there
2017-09-04 11:13 Dain: yeah
2017-09-04 11:14 Dain: that's fine
2017-09-04 11:15 Dain: 00:13:392 (97) - this one feels like it should be a don too imo but my second thought is the vocals, because there's kind of like a mix here?
2017-09-04 11:15 Dain: the instrumentation kinda suggests d but the vocals suggest k?
2017-09-04 11:15 Nifty: ye so it doesn't matter
2017-09-04 11:15 Dain: but given how there's like a mix between the two styles here i don't know if i can really call this a suggestion and more of a "what do you think"
2017-09-04 11:16 Nifty: I think it'll play either way being the streams are so slow
2017-09-04 11:16 Nifty: wow that's a new way to spell because
2017-09-04 11:16 Dain: yeah
2017-09-04 11:16 Dain: LOL
2017-09-04 11:17 Dain: 00:17:095 (125) - I'd say definitely don here because the drum from earlier is more deep and resonating, plus it contrasts with 00:16:715 (122) - where it's significantly higher pitch
2017-09-04 11:17 Dain: also vocals get lower
2017-09-04 11:17 Dain: high drum, high vocals, k / deep drum, low vocals, d
2017-09-04 11:17 Dain: ye?
2017-09-04 11:17 Nifty: fine I switched them
2017-09-04 11:18 Dain: no I mean
2017-09-04 11:18 Dain: 00:16:715 (122) - this stays as k
2017-09-04 11:18 Dain: 00:17:095 (125) - this becomes d
2017-09-04 11:18 Dain: or are you on about something else here?
2017-09-04 11:19 Nifty: nah dkk ddk because the vocals deserve emphasis, not pitch relevance
2017-09-04 11:19 Dain: alright
2017-09-04 11:19 Dain: that's cool
2017-09-04 11:20 Nifty: the rest work that way anyways lel
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: yeah
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: that sounds pretty good to me
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: 00:22:783 (3) - what about this one?
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: because it sounds kinda similar to 2
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: was thinking it could be k, unless you wanted to have like
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: only the very highest pitch be k
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: in that
2017-09-04 11:21 Nifty: it's the same note as 1
2017-09-04 11:21 Nifty: :think:
2017-09-04 11:21 Dain: oh yeah durr
2017-09-04 11:21 Nifty: bazinga
2017-09-04 11:21 Dain: i was focused on 2 too much lmao
2017-09-04 11:21 Dain: b a z i n g a
2017-09-04 11:22 Nifty: this mod is gonna be thicc mami but it's just us saying bazinga
2017-09-04 11:22 Nifty: kds denied
2017-09-04 11:22 Dain: xd
2017-09-04 11:22 Dain: 00:38:148 (100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108) - again was thinking that this stream could be represented differently unless you wanted to specifically focus on the drum
2017-09-04 11:23 Nifty: the trumpet
2017-09-04 11:23 Dain: it sounded drummy
2017-09-04 11:23 Dain: i removed it and it still sounded drummy
2017-09-04 11:23 Nifty: trumpet is the only moving part there so emphasis to it mhm
2017-09-04 11:24 Dain: there's like 2 bits where the trumpet was playing and the other bits were like
2017-09-04 11:24 Dain: backing instrumentation
2017-09-04 11:24 Dain: but in general the b.i. is like that yeah
2017-09-04 11:24 Nifty: I mean taiko is a drum game
2017-09-04 11:24 Dain: you wanna keep it like that?
2017-09-04 11:24 Nifty: I like the pattern
2017-09-04 11:25 Dain: meh
2017-09-04 11:25 Dain: it's a harmless pattern so i'm not concerned about how it looks
2017-09-04 11:26 Dain: i think this might be the last thing but
2017-09-04 11:26 Dain: 00:49:445 - was considering about adding a note here because there seems to be like this sound that's just absent in the map
2017-09-04 11:26 Dain: even playtesting it where the taiko notes should drown it out
2017-09-04 11:26 Dain: it doesn't fully do that so it sounds a bit empty
2017-09-04 11:27 Nifty: that's because there's no sound there
2017-09-04 11:27 Dain: no there is a sound, even if it's just the runover from the previous instrumentation
2017-09-04 11:27 Dain: i'm listening to it and I can definitely hear that
2017-09-04 11:27 Nifty: it's a cutoff which is lame and ending a stream on a blue tick is wonky as hell
2017-09-04 11:27 Nifty: especially with the rest of the map being on whites and reds
2017-09-04 11:28 Dain: well I mean this is the only time the song does this anyways
2017-09-04 11:28 Dain: just like how there was 1 instance of 1/3s
2017-09-04 11:28 Dain: not saying that justifies the note fully but like
2017-09-04 11:28 Dain: was just thinking about it like that
2017-09-04 11:28 Nifty: yeah people will miss it thinking the stream ends normally when it doesn't
2017-09-04 11:29 Nifty: also that cymbal cuts off on the white tick so
2017-09-04 11:29 Dain: i'm inclined to disagree with that given that people who play onis such as this
2017-09-04 11:29 Dain: would be used to more unorthodox patterns
2017-09-04 11:29 Dain: and would have semi-proficient reading at medium bpm
2017-09-04 11:29 Nifty: eh but there's no sound
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: if you want to leave that bit for sound purposes that's fine but it wouldn't make the map hard in any way
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: imo that's a bit disingenuous to imply
2017-09-04 11:30 Nifty: and the stream cuts off with the last drum hit
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: ye
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: i suppose
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: either way though that is indeed the last thing I feel like commenting on in that
2017-09-04 11:30 Nifty: onii
2017-09-04 11:31 Dain: actually no i have another thing and that would be just to double check the timing particularly at the end, i swear one or two notes sound slightly late
2017-09-04 11:32 Dain: 00:56:347 (218) - like this sounds a tiny bit late relative to 00:55:864 (217) -
2017-09-04 11:32 Dain: actually no wait
2017-09-04 11:32 Dain: i'm a dumbass because i accidentally did something weird
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: nvm
2017-09-04 11:33 Nifty: yee
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: good to know that i haven't changed in the 5 years i've played this game
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: anyways given that this map is actually, you know
2017-09-04 11:33 Nifty: it will sound late on 25% because the perceived beat it later than the actual beat
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: competent
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: and the fact that i wanna do something important right now
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: i trust that the lower diffs are all kinda good
2017-09-04 11:33 Nifty: owo
2017-09-04 11:34 Dain: this is really all i have to say for now so uhhh
2017-09-04 11:34 Nifty: nice 1 diff mod kds DENIED
2017-09-04 11:34 Dain: sorry to disappoint LOL
2017-09-04 11:34 Nifty: D E N I E D
2017-09-04 11:34 Dain: I'll be banking that KD like a mofo tyvm xdddd
all points denied
hikiko-
hi, quick comments on timing
00:22:120 - the barline in this section should go here; the way you currently have the barlines makes it seem like the bar starting at 00:20:524 - is in 5/4 and the bar at 00:22:525 - is in 3/4, while the entire song is in constant 4/4. in order to fix this you'll need another timing point here
once this gets corrected, the exact timing here isn't a problem since you just go over everything with a spinner, but i'd poke a couple other bns just to be sure
gl with rank
Raiden
timing as requested

red line diff

it was mostly accurate just tweaked some offsets and the ending for more smoothness
Lumenite-
Through quite a lengthy IRC, we cleaned up some improvisation, made sure appropriate breaks were allocated in each difficulty, and ensured spread was linear across all the difficulties. As the timing has been checked by hikiko and Raiden, I think this set is quite ready.

Bubbled~

speedcore hate crimes
16:04 *Taikocracy is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1371221 angela - Zenryoku*Summer! [Kantan]]
16:04 Nifty: cool
16:09 Taikocracy: 00:33:607 (18,21) - I think these can be deleted
16:09 Taikocracy: No more than just personal preference, I think it sounds better
16:10 Nifty: putting 2 4/1 in a row in the kiai would be kinda weird though
16:10 Taikocracy: Understandable, plus there's vocal stuff going on
16:10 Taikocracy: But 21
16:10 Taikocracy: ?
16:10 Nifty: yeah ill delete that one
16:10 Taikocracy: :)
16:11 Nifty: onlt cause 00:38:544 (24) - makes more sense being there than 21 >:)
16:11 Taikocracy: Onlt
16:11 Taikocracy: Okay
16:11 Nifty: keyboard small
16:12 *Taikocracy is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1370314 angela - Zenryoku*Summer! [Futsuu]]
16:14 Taikocracy: 00:04:195 (9) - I'd prefer this be deleted because for me it takes emphasis off notes 6 7 and 8
16:14 Taikocracy: And you might say the rest of the difficulty has x x x in 1/2 for that rhtyhm but I like it better without it as well
16:15 Nifty: mhm
16:15 Nifty: so leave it like that for the repeated sections?
16:15 Taikocracy: yeah so like 00:07:233 (16) - would be deleted as well
16:15 Taikocracy: so on and so forth
16:16 Taikocracy: I get it's for vocal emph but there's also vocal stuff on the beat after it, plotting it at one point and not at another is i n c o h e r e n t
16:16 Nifty: can I keep 00:10:271 (23,31) - because of the addition of that backing synth thing
16:16 Taikocracy: Yes
16:16 Nifty: weeeeeee
16:17 Taikocracy: Because then it's clear that it's on the synth and not the vocal
16:19 Taikocracy: I'm not a fan of the rhythms in the kiai
16:20 Taikocracy: After the kiai is fine
16:20 Taikocracy: :thinking:
16:20 Taikocracy: Let me take a gander at this hold on
16:20 Nifty: hmp
16:22 Taikocracy: https://puu.sh/xC9ht/4ef7d3d8ed.png I think sounds better and spreads more equally with the futsuu as well
16:25 Nifty: aight redl I changed some shit
16:27 Taikocracy: Some 1-2-1-2 variation
16:27 Taikocracy: :thinking:
16:27 Taikocracy: Well really it's just 1-2 but eh
16:27 Nifty: nothing repeats but the d dkd in there
16:27 Taikocracy: 00:33:987 (32) - I think you should move this to 00:35:506
16:28 Nifty: ye me 2
16:29 Taikocracy: 00:48:797 (70,71) - these two notes were dons in the kanta
16:29 Taikocracy: Consistency across difficulties fam
16:29 Nifty: ok but 71 it a k now cause we're cool
16:30 Nifty: and since those timestamps are mapped k k in muzu it's oke
16:30 Taikocracy: Did you change it to a k in the kantan then
16:31 Nifty: ye I ctrl g'd
16:31 Taikocracy: Alrighty
16:31 *Taikocracy is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1370316 angela - Zenryoku*Summer! [Muzukashii]]
16:31 Taikocracy: moving on
16:32 Taikocracy: 00:05:334 (17,18,19,20) - I advise ctrl+g and switching the colors
16:32 Taikocracy: More comfortable to play imo
16:32 Taikocracy: As are all triplets that start on red ticks
16:32 Nifty: sure
16:33 Taikocracy: Yeah and you did it here too 00:08:752 (30,31,32,33) -
16:33 Taikocracy: Not sure why you did them differently lol
16:33 Nifty: there's the cool drum sound 00:08:942 -
16:34 Taikocracy: True
16:34 Nifty: also 00:08:752 - is a high vocal
16:34 Taikocracy: Tbh all the triplets in the beginning should start on a red tick in my opinion
16:34 Taikocracy: It's just more comfortable to play
16:34 Taikocracy: And more comfortable to listen to as well
16:35 Taikocracy: 00:15:208 (57,58,59) - is an exception though because of the drum
16:35 Nifty: changed 00:11:410 - to [https://puu.sh/xC9OV/3aa3e57172.png dis]
16:35 Taikocracy: Good deal
16:37 Taikocracy: 00:15:967 (61,62,66,67,71,72) - I know I'm being picky but these sounds are mapped as ks in every difficulty but the kantan
16:37 Taikocracy: Wait let me be more specific
16:37 Taikocracy: 61 and 62 are ks
16:37 Taikocracy: 00:17:486 (66) - is a don
16:38 Taikocracy: And 00:19:005 (71) - is a kat
16:39 Nifty: well the muzu is the only diff that allows for me to do this nifty color switching here so that's why it's different
16:39 Taikocracy: N i f t y color switch thing
16:39 Taikocracy: xd
16:39 Taikocracy: But what do you mean by that
16:40 Nifty: the pattern is repeated but with inverted colors
16:41 Nifty: what if I switched the patterns to make it k k kdk d d dkd
16:41 Taikocracy: I think those notes should just be d k all 3 times
16:41 Nifty: well the second one is d k dkd cause music does that
16:41 Nifty: ok but can 00:19:005 (71,72) - be k kl
16:42 Taikocracy: Why should 71 be a k
16:42 Taikocracy: The trumpet-ish sound?
16:42 Nifty: cause the trumpets are louder here and they stay the same :D
16:43 Taikocracy: Okay I agree with that
16:43 Nifty: cool
16:43 Taikocracy: I think you should keep the basis of those notes the same across all the diffs tho
16:44 Nifty: oke ye in kantan and futsuu the only diff was the first doubles were dd or kk instead of dk changed
16:44 Nifty: same with oni
16:45 Nifty: inner is just.. different
16:45 Taikocracy: 00:28:101 - it really bothers me that this vocal syllable is skipped
16:46 Nifty: you think that phrase would be aight with no break
16:46 Nifty: eh it's only like 1.5 measures
16:46 Taikocracy: I'm trying to figure that out
16:47 Nifty: I could delet the triple 00:27:531 - here
16:48 Nifty: but then the vocal on the red would be missed
16:49 Taikocracy: Also fun fact
16:49 Taikocracy: There's no 2/1 breaks in this difficulty
16:49 Taikocracy: They're all 1/1
16:49 Nifty: there's a 4.5/1 tho ;)
16:49 Taikocracy: At the very end of the song lol
16:51 Nifty: 00:15:967 - I made this into a xxx x with a 2/1 after each
16:51 Taikocracy: I'll let you work on that for a second
16:51 Taikocracy: I have to use the bathroom
16:51 Nifty: like the futsuu
16:53 Taikocracy: Let me see a picture please
16:55 Nifty: uploading >:(
16:55 Nifty: it's pretty much the futsuu pattern there
16:56 Nifty: fuckin puush is broke as shit
16:57 Taikocracy: U right
16:57 Nifty: but ye it's the futsuu pattern ok
16:58 Taikocracy: I'll relook after you update lol
17:00 Taikocracy: Hold on
17:00 Nifty: oke
17:02 Taikocracy: https://puu.sh/xCaZ6/02d86a9e40.png
17:02 Taikocracy: Try this rhythm for the kiai
17:06 Nifty: reuploading
17:09 Nifty: ye
17:09 Taikocracy: Mhm
17:09 Taikocracy: I recommend finding a place to but 1 2/1 break in the kiai
17:09 Taikocracy: Just 1
17:10 Nifty: 00:38:164 - there we go I deleted these
17:10 Nifty: that makes 00:38:923 - thiccer anyways
17:10 Taikocracy: Okay
17:10 Taikocracy: The only other things I can say is that the triplet placement seems kind of random
17:11 Taikocracy: 00:32:088 (40,41,42) - and 00:36:265 (57,58,59) - to be specific
17:12 Nifty: I just deleted cause like
17:12 Nifty: idk don't need em
17:12 Taikocracy: That wraps that up then
17:12 Nifty: cool
17:13 *Taikocracy is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1370317 angela - Zenryoku*Summer! [Oni]]
17:15 Taikocracy: 00:14:069 (80,81,82,83,84,85) - uh
17:16 Taikocracy: let me show a picture of what I prefer, because it matches a little bit better instead of this 00:14:448 (82,83,84) - awkward triplet
17:16 Taikocracy: https://puu.sh/xCbE1/b1dbc197ea.png
17:17 Nifty: ok but what about the emphasis on 00:15:208 -
17:18 Taikocracy: That's fine
17:18 Nifty: cause imo the triple on the big white tick is more important than the 5let before
17:18 Nifty: hm nah the drums on the second one are ok I guess
17:18 Nifty: or make it ok to not have a triple on the white tick
17:18 Taikocracy: Oh lol
17:18 Taikocracy: Yeah exactly
17:18 Taikocracy: The second triplet has clear match to the drums
17:19 Taikocracy: The one on the DOWNBEAT (not the "big white tick) sounded awkward
17:19 Nifty: big white ticc
17:19 Nifty: ik what it's called but I'm used to talking to people who have no clue what music terminology is
17:20 Taikocracy: 00:18:246 (20,21,22,23) - I prefer this be a 5 note plet
17:20 Nifty: oke made dkdkd
17:21 Taikocracy: 00:19:670 (30) - I think you should move this to 00:19:955 and make it a kat
17:21 Taikocracy: Oops bad format sorry lol
17:22 Nifty: booo
17:22 Nifty: and dun
17:23 Taikocracy: Triplets that are improvised and start on a downbeat make me angery
17:23 Taikocracy: It makes me u n c o m f o r t a b l e
17:24 Nifty: well the triplet there was mapped to the drum that is there
17:24 Taikocracy: 00:34:746 (65,66,67) - and 00:35:885 (72,73,74) -
17:25 Nifty: ok made into something better and smaller specifically 2 notes
17:25 Taikocracy: And those are the only triplets in the entire kiai that start on a downbeat oeirhaoseiuhfo;diasuf
17:25 Nifty: hehe ye
17:26 Taikocracy: 00:51:455 (157,158,159) - SEE THIS TRIPLET IS FINE
17:27 Taikocracy: IT'S PERFECT
17:27 Nifty: btw made 00:52:025 - into a ddkkd
17:27 Nifty: cause I'm cool and i can do that
17:27 Taikocracy: Understandable, sounds fine
17:28 Taikocracy: Alright
17:28 *Taikocracy is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1370315 angela - Zenryoku*Summer! [Inner Oni]]
17:28 Taikocracy: Almost done
17:28 Nifty: !!!
17:29 Nifty: added k 00:19:955 - here for the kdkdk we added in oni
17:35 Taikocracy: It's a rule of thumb
17:35 Taikocracy: That you're not supposed to map vocal in taoiko
17:35 Taikocracy: But because you've done it the entire set I can't yell at you for that now so
17:35 Nifty: >:)
17:35 Nifty: also the song is literall the same drum beat the entire song
17:37 Taikocracy: Yeah I think if you were to not focus on vocal this would be a 4 diff set with the top diff like 2.8*
17:37 Nifty: mhm
17:37 Taikocracy: 00:18:056 (131) - This note should be deleted, no vocal support
17:38 Taikocracy: 00:18:246 (131,132,133,134) - also this should be a dkdkd like in the oni
17:38 Nifty: ye I said I changed that
17:38 Nifty: oh
17:38 Nifty: oh yeah that too
17:42 Taikocracy: 00:35:885 (83,84,85,86,87,88,89) - take it easy on the improvisation there buddy
17:43 Nifty: made into 5
17:44 Taikocracy: in the oni
17:44 Taikocracy: regular oni
17:44 Taikocracy: 00:23:734 you missed a note here
17:44 Taikocracy: damn formatting agian lol
17:44 Nifty: added
17:46 Taikocracy: Alright, update it and I'll make sure everything's all good
17:47 Nifty: updateos
17:53 Taikocracy: Alright verifying one thing with another BN before I bubble
17:55 Taikocracy: 00:22:542 (1,2,3,4) -
17:55 Taikocracy: Muzu
17:55 Taikocracy: I've gotten a hard suggestion that you should change this to monocolor
17:56 Nifty: ok ye
17:56 Nifty: I was wondering about the difficulty of that anyway
17:57 Taikocracy: What color did you change it to
17:57 Nifty: dddd d
17:57 Taikocracy: Okay I think we're good
Surono
Angela's alteration voice teh fk, angela I know its from 20sec da hell

>General
* 00:22:145 - volume conflicts on all diffs and 00:23:734 - this one on Inner

>Inner
* 00:03:056 (13,14,15) - I felt 13 has a contrast sound, change it to D?
* 00:36:930 - add notes
nice rap pattern, gonnagobeatnardoz. orz

>Oni
* 00:03:056 -
* 00:48:702 (147,148,149,150,151,152) - dem, 00:48:892 - delete this to emphasize the start hit 00:48:987 - of this

>Muzu
* 00:03:056 -
* 00:18:436 - 00:18:626 - add don to both of there, balance the density with above and below diff.
* 00:20:145 - at least add notes here
* 00:42:911 - kat as 00:42:531 - similar range of vocal
* 00:52:404 - add kat to balance density each diffs

>Footshoe
* 00:03 smh it shows the time in here orz
* 00:49:177 - add kat

bananas are good for relieving stress
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Nifty
dem surowo pop mod. will look when home.

rip volume.
Lumenite-
Just my opinion on some of the things going on here, felt like I should explain why some of Surono's concerns were not my own concerns:

Surono wrote:

Angela's alteration voice teh fk, angela I know its from 20sec da hell

>General
* 00:22:145 - volume conflicts on all diffs and 00:23:734 - this one on Inner Wow, thank you for catching that, can't believe that flew under my eyes.

>Inner
* 00:03:056 (13,14,15) - I felt 13 has a contrast sound, change it to D? I think these were mapped as Ks in every difficulty to show pitch contrast to the note before it, making it a don implies similar pitch, which in all difficulties were K K K is present is not the case.
* 00:36:930 - add notes Why...?
nice rap pattern, gonnagobeatnardoz. orz

>Oni
* 00:03:056 - ^
* 00:48:702 (147,148,149,150,151,152) - dem, 00:48:892 - delete this to emphasize the start hit 00:48:987 - of this There's clear snare hits going on throughout this beat, deleting the mentioned note disregards those sounds, and (imo) is more awkward to play.

>Muzu
* 00:03:056 - ^
* 00:18:436 - 00:18:626 - add don to both of there, balance the density with above and below diff. These sections were edited to allow 2/1 breaks, applying this change gets rid of one of them.
* 00:20:145 - at least add notes here Understandable
* 00:42:911 - kat as 00:42:531 - similar range of vocal I think this note is closer in pitch to note 80 which is a don, as oppose to note 81.
* 00:52:404 - add kat to balance density each diffs Also understandable

>Footshoe
* 00:03 smh it shows the time in here orz What
* 00:49:177 - add kat Why though...?

bananas are good for relieving stress How about eggplants
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