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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on maandag 18 november 2013 at 21:33:38

Artist: Evanescence
Title: Tourniquet
Tags: Mancuso_JM_ Fallen mancusojuanmattos
BPM: 102,13
Filesize: 4652kb
Play Time: 03:26
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,02 stars, 116 notes)
  2. Hard (4,35 stars, 273 notes)
  3. Insane (4,88 stars, 324 notes)
  4. Mancuso's Normal (2,8 stars, 177 notes)


Download: Evanescence - Tourniquet
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Do you remember me?
Lost for so long

Will you be on the other side
Or will you forget me?

I'm dying, praying, bleeding and screaming
Am I too lost to be saved?
Am I too lost?

Please redownload the file if you downloaded it before 31-10-2013, changed audio.
Please delete the map & redownload if you downloaded it before 02-11-2013, because of the significant changes in the skin.
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Resurrect?
posted
If you're going to finish this map, Let me make a diff. Please!
Maybe a Normal
posted
Sorry for delay, I had some problems to finish with my Guest Difficulties and mods, But here it is. I only use Clap and Finishes in the map, if you want to add some Whistle just tell me, I feel free to add some in some place :P. Also if you see any wrong, tell me please, I'll fix as soon as possible, and finally... don't forget to add my username in tags :P
Sorry for double post xD

Download: Evanescence - Tourniquet (misja056) [Mancuso's Normal].osu
posted
Hey
[General]
*Add the album's name in all the tags

[Easy]

Too many new combo(s). Example? 01:57:686 (1) I cannot see a logic behind these, sorry. Please fix this little issue!

Please silence the sliderticks at the beginning. They create too contrast and it's awful to hear it.

01:20:675 (1) - This slider may be confusing, not only because its repeat is on a blue tick (when I cannot listen the main drum), but also because there's a custom slidertick that is quite unexpected (even if it follow the clap pattern, but it's a concept not really understood by every beginner). I suggest you to change its rhythm. Same issue on copy-pasted part: 02:17:073 (1) -
01:27:725 (2) - A bit offscreen, I suggest you to make its position higher
01:57:686 (1) - Make this pattern better by making its position perfectly symmetrical with the previous (1)
02:41:748 (1) - BAD start, not really intuitive to hit
02:55:260 (x) - I'd add a hitcircle here -> same thing here 03:14:060

[Normal]

Cool and clean. Just an advice: make it cleaner by deleting some useless combo(s). Example: 02:00:330 (2,1)
02:47:036 (1) - clap at the end? // 02:52:323 (2,3) - add a clap on (3) instead of (2)?
You didn't follow the clap-pattern with your slidertick in all the parts! (example 02:53:498 (5) - )

[Hard]

that normal whistle just hurt my ears

01:21:556 (x) - What if you add a hitcircle here? It would help to keep the flow constant too
01:53:281 (4) - Quite random position I'd say :S
01:54:749 (9) - Stack this perfectly
02:45:420 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4) - I feel another rhythm here:http://puu.sh/D9X2

That's all for now!
posted
All Fixed on Armin's mod. I'll check the whole of my diff. to see if I can find another inconsitency, but when I have more free time.
The diff :)

osu file format v9

[General]
AudioFilename: 06 - Tourniquet.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 77738
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 211685
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4

[Metadata]
Title:Tourniquet
Artist:Evanescence
Creator:misja056
Version:Mancuso's Normal
Source:
Tags:mancusojuanmattos

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:4
SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"evanescence21.jpg"
//Break Periods
2,96150,101680
2,152548,160281
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,163,162,255

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[Colours]
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Combo2 : 123,169,214
Combo3 : 184,235,239
Combo4 : 179,189,198
SliderBorder : 0,0,0
SliderTrackOverride : 240,245,255

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posted
posted
Hey ho :3

General

You Have to Map at least 80% of the Audio-File ._. .. its a bit too Short qq but i think you can fix it :)

[Easy difficult]
.. Nothing Found, Nice :) !

[Normal difficult]
01:21:263 (5) - That sounds Ugly q.q
01:31:250 (5) - ^
02:04:737 (1) - Out of Window..
02:17:074 (5) - That sounds Ugly q.q

[Hard Difficult]
02:23:536 (1) - Out of Window..

Nice work but need some more Mods about Hitsounds i think :c
posted

Xebo wrote:

Hey ho :3

General

You Have to Map at least 80% of the Audio-File ._. .. its a bit too Short qq but i think you can fix it :) Fixed :)

[Easy difficult]
.. Nothing Found, Nice :) !

[Normal difficult]
01:21:263 (5) - That sounds Ugly q.qFind it really unique
01:31:250 (5) - ^ Find it really unique
02:04:737 (1) - Out of Window.. If you play, you see it though.
02:17:074 (5) - That sounds Ugly q.q Find it really unique

[Hard Difficult]
02:23:536 (1) - Out of Window.. If you play, you see it though.

Nice work but need some more Mods about Hitsounds i think :c I think the hitsounds are good actually as they are now.
posted
#Modreqs

[General]
• You have a custom hitcircle and hitcircle overlay so you need to include a custom hitcircle approach circle as well.
• I can see it being annoying for some people when the background/combo colors/cursor are all light blue.
• Seeing as you included a custom cursor you might want to make a custom cusortrail to go along with it.
• Your soft-hitnormal is completely silent, don't do that (it's unrankable). It also sounds very strange.
• Keep the 3rd kiai on 02:51:774 to match the time the others start at + it should start on a hitobject.
• Your 1st/4th combo colors are veryyy similar, I would try and make them stand out more.
• Kind of strange you include the hit0 but nothing else, could cause some skin conflicts.
• (Minor) Breaks aren't quite snapped to the white ticks.


[Easy]
• Might as well use tick rate 2 here if Normal/Hard are going to, and it fits pretty well in my opinion
00:46:639 (3,1) - space further apart
02:54:417 (3) - the first time a slider/circle falls on a red tick, I actually recommend this more for this type of song as it could make the Easy more interesting.

[Mancuso's Normal]
• Yep I knew I would see tick rate 2 here :P
01:21:301 (5) - what happened to following the previous clap pattern here, I would expect it on the start not the slider tick. This actually makes all of the claps after this follow a different beat then the ones before it.
02:51:774 (1,2) - not sure if 2 claps are on purpose or not (none of the other kiai times do it at this point)
02:58:236 (1) - no clap on slider ticks like other times?

[Hard]
• I don't say this very often (as normally jumps are overused) but for the hardest difficulty this has a lot of spacing that is very close together. It looks like most things are done with 0.9 distance snap and very few jumps are put in even during kiai. If you wanted to make this more interesting for people you would need to remap certain upbeat parts and increase the overall spacing, up to you.
03:14:686 (4,5,1) - strange spacing

Not bad so far but too many general/skinning issues right now, if you want to PM me after all of that is fixed I should be able to give you a star, good luck!
posted
I'll be checking this mod and doing some changes in my diff. really soon.
Wait for me! :P


What is old is old xDD.. Anyway I did some tiny changes to make the difficulty better in terms of flow, I fixed some hitsounds too.
Here you have

osu file format v12

[General]
AudioFilename: 06 - Tourniquet.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 77738
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 211685
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 4

[Metadata]
Title:Tourniquet
TitleUnicode:Tourniquet
Artist:Evanescence
ArtistUnicode:Evanescence
Creator:Misja
Version:Mancuso's Normal
Source:
Tags:mancusojuanmattos Fallen
BeatmapID:159996
BeatmapSetID:36579

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:4
SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:2

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//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
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Oh.. and as I told you, have this custom slidertick, is better than the current one because it is a combination between Normal sampleset + the hitclap.
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James2250 wrote:

#Modreqs

[General] All have been fixed here. you need to delete and redownload the map!
• You have a custom hitcircle and hitcircle overlay so you need to include a custom hitcircle approach circle as well.
• I can see it being annoying for some people when the background/combo colors/cursor are all light blue.
• Seeing as you included a custom cursor you might want to make a custom cusortrail to go along with it.
• Your soft-hitnormal is completely silent, don't do that (it's unrankable). It also sounds very strange.
• Keep the 3rd kiai on 02:51:774 to match the time the others start at + it should start on a hitobject.
• Your 1st/4th combo colors are veryyy similar, I would try and make them stand out more.
• Kind of strange you include the hit0 but nothing else, could cause some skin conflicts.
• (Minor) Breaks aren't quite snapped to the white ticks.


[Easy]
• Might as well use tick rate 2 here if Normal/Hard are going to, and it fits pretty well in my opinion Fixed
00:46:639 (3,1) - space further apart Fixed
02:54:417 (3) - the first time a slider/circle falls on a red tic]k, I actually recommend this more for this type of song as it could make the Easy more interesting. I always want the end of the song to be like a really great ending, that is why my endings & bridges are always a bit more complicated and interesting. That's why I used it on a red tick. ;)

[Mancuso's Normal]
• Yep I knew I would see tick rate 2 here :P
01:21:301 (5) - what happened to following the previous clap pattern here, I would expect it on the start not the slider tick. This actually makes all of the claps after this follow a different beat then the ones before it.
02:51:774 (1,2) - not sure if 2 claps are on purpose or not (none of the other kiai times do it at this point)
02:58:236 (1) - no clap on slider ticks like other times?

[Hard]
• I don't say this very often (as normally jumps are overused) but for the hardest difficulty this has a lot of spacing that is very close together. It looks like most things are done with 0.9 distance snap and very few jumps are put in even during kiai. If you wanted to make this more interesting for people you would need to remap certain upbeat parts and increase the overall spacing, up to you. I liked the flow in my diff, I've been suggested to do it otherwise before, but I didn't want to because I felt like it was going to turn out something different then I wanted it to be like. Sorry ;)
03:14:686 (4,5,1) - strange spacing You're right!

Not bad so far but too many general/skinning issues right now, if you want to PM me after all of that is fixed I should be able to give you a star, good luck!
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From #modreq~ and cuz is Evanescence =p

[General]
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[Hard]
I have to agree with James2250 about the spacing on this difficulty, I find it a bit short for a Hard diff also the map is pretty simple and it could turn boring at some point, maybe make it more interesting with jumps like James said, is a good idea ;)
00:40:177 - 00:48:401 - this section is kinda loud, lower the volume a bit
01:26:294 (6,7,8,9,10) - Dunno if you meant to make a perfect arc with these, but it would look nicer
01:51:850 (3) - Center this? I don't know if is on purpose, but this kind of symmetrical patterns looks way better when they are centered
01:53:319 (4,5,6,7) - I suggest to center this too, because when I see a symmetric pattern itself I feel like would look and feel better if its symmetric to the screen too, if you know what I mean? haha just like this http://puu.sh/583ln.jpg
01:57:431 (3,4,5,6) - Same with this
02:02:718 (5) - same as 01:51:850 (3) -
02:14:174 (1,2) - same
02:18:287 (3,4,5) - same
02:20:637 (1,2,3) - same here, also I suggest you to re-do 02:21:812 (3) - , by coping 02:20:637 (1) - and use Flip Horizontally then apply Ctrl+G to invert the direction, this is to make both sliders symmetrical between each other
02:29:449 (5) - longer this slider until 02:30:037 - and start the next spinner 1/4 or 1/2 beat later, spinner doesn't have sound so it wont affect much
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Next I'm going to give you some suggestions about the part from 02:41:639 - to 02:48:983 - that I think would sound better (Note: you must change them all to see how will sound the whole part, and not one by one, then you can consider keeping it or going back to how it was)
02:43:842 - add note
02:45:017 - remove note
02:45:752 (9) - remove note and add one here 02:46:192 -
02:46:486 (2) - remove this note and make a slider from 02:46:339 - to here 02:46:633 -
02:46:927 - remove this note
02:47:221 - add note
02:47:367 - remove note
02:47:514 - add note
02:47:661 - remove note
02:48:395 - add note
02:48:836 - remove note
That's it, hope you like it and keep it =p (Fix spacing after making the changes)
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02:53:242 (5,6,7,8) - center it too?
03:17:035 (2,3,4,5,6) - same
03:19:385 (1,2,3,4) - same =p
03:28:491 - start another triplet here, and start the next spinner a bit later, sounds really good

[Mancuso's Normal]
00:40:177 - 00:48:401 - same as Hard, this section is kinda loud, lower the volume a bit
01:29:525 (3,4,5,1) - this confused me a bit, how about if you make 01:31:288 (5) - 1/4 beat longer? and removing 01:32:463 (1) - of course
I know is difficult to do in the easier difficulty, but there are some symmetrical pattern that aren't centered that I think would look better if they were

[Easy]
00:40:177 - 00:48:401 - same as Hard, this section is kinda loud, lower the volume a bit
00:57:801 (5) - curve it to the opposite side, so it doesn't touch that prev note, looks better
I have the same opinion about symmetry I had on Mancuso's Normal.

Good luck guys~ ^^
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Thanks for modding Liss, but I'll remap my difficulty, I'm not really happy with it.. I know I can make it even better.
Misja, I'll finish the diff. really soon.. Actually I've mapped till the end of the first chorus, so I'll be fast I think (this song inspire me a lot to map, really xD)

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Well.. Here is the remapped version of my Normal! Hope you like it!

osu file format v12

[General]
AudioFilename: 06 - Tourniquet.mp3
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[Editor]
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[Metadata]
Title:Tourniquet
TitleUnicode:Tourniquet
Artist:Evanescence
ArtistUnicode:Evanescence
Creator:Misja
Version:Mancuso's Normal
Source:
Tags:mancusojuanmattos Fallen
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83,163,200560,2,0,P|176:159|227:82,1,191.999994140625,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
408,20,201735,1,0,0:0:0:0:
496,192,202323,1,8,0:0:0:0:
408,364,202910,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,248,203498,1,8,0:0:0:0:
177,71,204085,2,0,P|256:24|334:72,1,191.999994140625,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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84,164,206435,5,0,0:0:0:0:
160,104,206729,2,0,P|194:71|208:26,1,95.9999970703126,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
303,26,207316,2,0,P|317:71|352:104,1,95.9999970703126
328,196,207904,2,0,B|304:236|304:236|304:285,1,95.9999970703126,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,285,208491,2,0,B|208:236|208:236|184:196,1,95.9999970703126,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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posted
Thanks for the mod liss, on easy I have done all the stuff you said.
On hard diff I remapped the part with all the new combo's and I centered some stuff, but some sliders & notes didn't seem necessary to be centered.
Also I added a harder diff for the people who wanted to have a more interesting difficulty, since the hard diff won't be changed with the spacing!
posted
[General]
Hitsounds are kinda of an bore, claps every other 1/1 works but it's not really that interesting. As addons has been added since 2011 you can put soft addons and use soft whistle and finish for some more nice sounding hitsounds.
.... Also slidertick claps sounds so odd...



[Normal]
01:28:350 (3,4) - This blanket is.... kinda off.

[Hard]

00:50:164 (4) - This is pretty much invisible for a player with hidden, move it up a bit so you at least can see the border.

01:26:294 (6,7,8,9,10) - Pretty ugly. this would look much better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1082310

01:45:388 (1,2) - This jump has not really much of an backing at all.

01:49:500 (9,10) - The higher spacing here is just..... Weird. I understand you are trying to place it at the tick but that's feels just odd and looks kinda ugly. I think placing it like this would be better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1082314

[Insane]
In general try to avoid hiding the sliderend of a slider.. There is no repeat slider on those right now but it can fool players into thinking there is one and they just don't know it.



Sorry for the crappy mod. I just got really tired because you know what happened....
posted
man.. keep both tags.. mancusojuanmattos and mancuso_JM_ pls xD
btw, I don't see this blanket is ''off'', I like it actually :P
posted
hi, from #modreqs :D

I don't have much time, so i'm just gonna mod your [Insane] Difficulty.

01:29:819 (9,10,11) - would place them on the same spot, looks weird
01:13:076 (1,2,3) - would center them to the middle (also in 2nd verse, when you copied your 1st verse...)
01:20:126 (6) - CTRL+G maybe? (also in your copied part, not gonna mention this anymore from now on)
01:27:763 (3) - CTRL+G maybe?
01:46:563 (3) - make it parallel to the (2) (check with CTRL+H)
Most combos are short, mostly up to 6, some like this 01:49:941 (11) go up until 11, try to make it rather consistent, like splitting the 11 combo into a 5 and 6 combo
Suggestion: make 01:30:407 (1) - a repeat slider, remove (2) and place the circle at 01:31:288
Use AIMod, many of the elements aren't snapped during the 2nd chorus.. (also some tags don't fit with the normal diff)
Insert a circle at 03:12:189 (4) maybe?
Insert a circle at 03:18:651 (8) maybe? (If yes, also make NC at 03:18:210 (7) )
03:22:323 (4,5) - make them a slider

All in all it's a fine Insane, although i hate copy+paste maps and you did that a lot, think of remapping at least the choruses :(


Good Luck with your mapset, love the song btw :P
posted
Thanks for the mod! Did some edits and I'm sorry if you don't like the copy-paste, but I don't feel like changing it or want to change it.
posted
Hi there! You requested a mod in-game!

General thoughts
  1. Inconsistency in Tags:
    Inconsistency in Tags: - [Easy] : mancuso_JM_ Fallen mancusojuanmattos - [Hard] : mancuso_JM_ Fallen mancusojuanmattos - [Insane] : mancuso_JM_ Fallen mancusojuanmattos - [Mancuso's Normal] : Mancuso_JM_ Fallen mancusojuanmattos
  2. Otherwise clean

Easy
  1. AR1 feels really slow, consider raising it to 2 to make a better spread
  2. 00:51:339 (3) - Looks a bit funny, try to make it more symmetrical like this?
  3. 01:18:951 (2) - I don't recommend stacking objects in the easiest difficulty, it's bit too hard for beginners
  4. 01:23:063 (3) - ^
  5. 01:27:175 (1,2) - How about this? It would make a cool blanket between them. Ofcourse if you apply this you would need to do some rearranging with the next objects but that shouldn't be a problem since it's an easy difficulty.
  6. 01:33:638 (4) - Have you ever thought about adding a reverse on this? I think it would fit better and instead of waiting for the break, you could play with a slider.
  7. 01:47:738 (3) - See the second suggestion with the curve!
  8. 02:15:349 (2) - Well, the stack again here, I don't recommend >.<
  9. 02:19:462 (3) - ^
  10. 02:23:574 (1,2) - See the ''cool blanket'' suggestion above
  11. 02:30:037 (4) - See the reverse slider suggestion above
  12. 02:44:136 (4) - Stacking here again
  13. 03:06:461 (2,3) - ^
  14. 03:25:260 (2,3) - ^
  15. Pretty nice otherwise

Normal
  1. 01:28:350 (3,4) - Gotta agree with Xgor, the blanket is off
  2. Didn't catch anything else, well made difficulty!

Hard
  1. Your settings are way too high for such a hard difficulty, please lower them to HP7, and OD7 (you might want to consider HP6 and OD6)
  2. The spacing here is kinda... low? Looks more like a normal difficulty but with harder settings. Please, please give them some spacing to make the map more interesting.
  3. 00:59:270 (2,3) - Please make a correct blanket here
  4. 01:07:642 (7,8) - Please don't stack them since you didn't stack them 02:16:965 (5,6) - here
  5. 02:26:071 (6,7) - Either unstack them or stack them all, it would make is easier to read :3
  6. 02:54:564 (8,9) - ^
  7. 02:56:180 (3,4) - This blanket isn't correct
  8. 03:03:964 (5,6) - See the stack suggestion above
  9. 03:14:539 (3,4) - ^

I didn't catch much in your insane, seemd pretty fun.

Sorry for my crappy mod, I'm bit tired today and feeling sick so D:
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