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Kawashiro

Kisses wrote:

00:18:598 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - whistles
00:33:114 (1,2,3) - 1/4 beats make snapping rather uncomfortable and too forced imo, try ending them on red ticks
00:40:082 (2,1) - ^
00:39:985 - because this is such a predominant sound I thhink this rhythm would be more appropriate for your diff. Based off of how you mapped your other rhythms https://i.imgur.com/PfL2vSE.png - You can realize there is 1/8 if u listen carefully with set playback rate as 25%. So i skipped for emphasize main rhythm.
01:33:071 (1,1) - You don't need these extra NCs
01:39:616 (1,1) - ^
01:56:934 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - not really a big problem but make the spacing between the circles equal? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9554937
01:57:889 (1,2,3,4,1) - I can suggest for you to use a rhythm similar to the 2 higher diffs? Having 01:58:343 as a passive object (slider end) doesn't feel natural to play given how strong the beat is. Nor does it mesh well with your rhythm density - Not putting clickable object at 01:58:343 - here is for emphasize 01:58:434 (1) - this piano sound
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Tags:sdvx konami kac song contest champion Renumi Akitoshi pkk Sharkie Zexous Kawashiro Fushimi Rio
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Doormat
looks like everything that needed addressing has been addressed, so rebubbling-
squirrelpascals
kroytz rhythm gamer
Synitri
disqualified
Kawashiro
KOOL
Pachiru
On Renumi's diff:

00:14:921 (3,4,5,6) - https://i.imgur.com/bFGqapO.png

Ranking Criteria wrote:

Avoid overlapping circles, slider heads, and slider tails. These can be confusing for new players. 1/1 overlaps due to distance snapping should be avoided with higher spacing or slider velocity.
Since it's the lowest diff of the set, that would be nice to at least respect the ranking criteria's guidelines for this? Using multiple overlaps in a row is kinda misleading for a beginner in my opinion.
nextplay

MariahCarey wrote:

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Seni
disqualified
Renumi

Pachiru wrote:

On Renumi's diff:

00:14:921 (3,4,5,6) - https://i.imgur.com/bFGqapO.png

Ranking Criteria wrote:

Avoid overlapping circles, slider heads, and slider tails. These can be confusing for new players. 1/1 overlaps due to distance snapping should be avoided with higher spacing or slider velocity.
Since it's the lowest diff of the set, that would be nice to at least respect the ranking criteria's guidelines for this? Using multiple overlaps in a row is kinda misleading for a beginner in my opinion. it is what it is,, a guideline,, i really really doubt there's confusion here,,, lot of my diff is kinda centered on this kinda stuff too adapt and overcome cleanse thyself
Pachiru
Oh come on, this is the only big issue of this difficulty, you're doing an overlap and an stack that make the thing hard to read on this part, I don't know how to explain it. Even if it's a guidelines, it's not a reason to ignores it?

I also notice that your diff is based on stacks, and stuffs, but on this part ONLY, it's not clean, and it can be misleading.
Anyway, I've nothing else to say, cause the difficulty is good overall, and I doubt you'll change something since the map is qualified.

Gratz on qualified tho, the song is good, and the topdiffs are really interesting to watch.

it just triggers me that people ignores guildelines, cause they're guidelines (on low SR diffs). so i'm very sorry if my post sounds very rude or else.
_DT3
On question on the top diff:
01:26:934 (1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Even though I can tell that there is some symmetry and copy-paste there, the spacing here between the circles is kinda weird imo because you can easily tell that there are huge differences in spacing like 01:27:889 (1,2) - and 01:27:616 (3,4) - , but if you listen closely those have the same instruments on them (small kick + piano).

Would have been nicer to either have consistent/the same spacing on these jumps for that repetitive piano or same spacing for snares and kicks respectively there

Really cool map though, I like that consistency in the diffs a lot
Gratz! \w/
Rizia
insane
KittyAdventure
Congratulations! <3
Topic Starter
Kroytz

_DT3 wrote:

On question on the top diff:
01:26:934 (1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Even though I can tell that there is some symmetry and copy-paste there, the spacing here between the circles is kinda weird imo because you can easily tell that there are huge differences in spacing like 01:27:889 (1,2) - and 01:27:616 (3,4) - , but if you listen closely those have the same instruments on them (small kick + piano).

Would have been nicer to either have consistent/the same spacing on these jumps for that repetitive piano or same spacing for snares and kicks respectively there

Really cool map though, I like that consistency in the diffs a lot
Gratz! \w/
I think I see what you mean, but I had a slightly different approach with what I'm going for here. Basically instead of trying to be accurate with the drums, I chose the stronger (imo) piano to follow:

01:26:934 (1,2,3) - is a triangle for the three rising sounds | 01:27:343 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - two pairs of quadruple circles for the same beat of the piano | 01:28:434 (5,1) - and with these two I reuse one more beat for the finish and increase the spacing to separate for the next three-circle combo which isn't part of the former combo at 01:28:571 (1,2,3) -At (1) you can hear it's clearly different while (5) shares the same pitch from before with just an added finish.

So this is how I organized this section versus trying to find relative spacing within the drum beats. Thank you _DT3! :)
_DT3
Ah, I see now, thanks for the polite response!
Enon
Please rank my map too thanks
Kawashiro

Enon wrote:

Please rank my map too thanks
Firis Mistlud

Enon wrote:

Please rank my map too thanks
Xexxar
Bit confusing as to why Rio's Maximum during the final kiai uses 1----2 jumps instead of 1-2-3 like every other diff. The rhythm is 3/2, 3/2, 3/2, 2/2, 2/2, so your jumps should reflect that really.


[Entrance to Valhalla]
Kroytz since you're following synth during chorus I'm a bit confused on your rhythm choice here. 01:26:116 (2) - Shouldn't this be a slider like all other instances of strong sounds like this at the start of the kiai? 01:26:525 (3) - i dont get why this is a slider but the other point isnt.

01:30:071 (1) - why is this even a note, the rhythm is so weak and the jump isnt really supported, it would fit the beat alot more to break up the monotony of your constant jumps.

01:28:298 (4) - is basically the strongest note of the combo but you have the lowest spacing here of all jumps lo.. 01:28:434 (5) - is clearly weaker, if i were you i'd map it as a slider end.

01:45:889 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - i dont really get your logic on why this is so spaced. when you compare it to 01:49:161 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - , this is way more intense but the other pattern is more spaced.

the whole section is a lower intensity part but you're mapping it cross-screen the whole time 01:46:980 (1,2,3,4,5) - etc. The rhythm is constant, so having lower spacing notes that are more close together would better fit the rhythm. Additionally, the section that follows would feel more distinct.

01:53:525 (1,2,3) - is not as intense as 01:53:934 (1,2,3) - or 01:54:752 (1,2,3) - . You probably would find better results with patterns that change in size to fit the beat better, rather than keeping everything the same spacing for the purpose of aesthetic.

01:58:366 (1) - Pretty sure this beat is on 1/4th not 1/3rd

01:39:343 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - this is rly anticlimatic and underspaced given the intensity. compared to other 1/3rd sections this should be more spaced.

inb4

Kroytz wrote:

The spacing isn't supposed to be seen as "emphasis" because of it being simply 'spaced further'.
Topic Starter
Kroytz

Xexxar wrote:

[Entrance to Valhalla]
Kroytz since you're following synth during chorus I'm a bit confused on your rhythm choice here. 01:26:116 (2) - Shouldn't this be a slider like all other instances of strong sounds like this at the start of the kiai? 01:26:525 (3) - i dont get why this is a slider but the other point isnt. I mean it's possible, there are a few rhythm choices to make here. The one I chose decided to make the two circles 01:25:980 (1,2) - stand out a bit more. It's similar to how I represented 01:26:934 (1,2,3) -

01:30:071 (1) - why is this even a note, the rhythm is so weak and the jump isnt really supported, it would fit the beat alot more to break up the monotony of your constant jumps.

01:28:298 (4) - is basically the strongest note of the combo but you have the lowest spacing here of all jumps lo.. 01:28:434 (5) - is clearly weaker, if i were you i'd map it as a slider end. Slider end is much more inferior here. I gave out my reasoning for this in previous page but basically this entire combo is grouped with the piano (synth?) things.

01:45:889 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - i dont really get your logic on why this is so spaced. when you compare it to 01:49:161 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - , this is way more intense but the other pattern is more spaced.
the whole section is a lower intensity part but you're mapping it cross-screen the whole time 01:46:980 (1,2,3,4,5) - etc. The rhythm is constant, so having lower spacing notes that are more close together would better fit the rhythm. Additionally, the section that follows would feel more distinct. The entire period is to be gradually growing higher in spacing so that when it does get into the next kiai moment, it's not completely out of nowhere whack with the spacing. Perhaps the contrast could be more evident but I figure that because there are virtually no sliders in the next section, that is contrasting enough.

01:53:525 (1,2,3) - is not as intense as 01:53:934 (1,2,3) - or 01:54:752 (1,2,3) - . You probably would find better results with patterns that change in size to fit the beat better, rather than keeping everything the same spacing for the purpose of aesthetic. Then it would go against the theme of the map here... I believe both ways of interpreting are correct, personally I find the triangle stuff more pronounced to the music than having back and forths and so that's why they exist. Another possibility could be smaller triangles and space them out into quadrants but then that wouldn't be as symmetrical as I wanted to establish.

01:58:366 (1) - Pretty sure this beat is on 1/4th not 1/3rd It's on 1/3 -_ -

01:39:343 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - this is rly anticlimatic and underspaced given the intensity. compared to other 1/3rd sections this should be more spaced. I think it can be spaced further too. Problem is having it too spaced wouldn't make the next section feel as a build-up section. Everything would feel a little too similar spacing. Yknow, everything is intense so nothing is intense idea. Trying to avoid that here.

inb4

Kroytz wrote:

The spacing isn't supposed to be seen as "emphasis" because of it being simply 'spaced further'.
Taken a little out of context but this refers to the triangle symmetries in previous sections zz
Hope this answers your queries Xexxar! :)
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