HoneyWorks feat. Gero - Jakusha no Sengen [Osu|Taiko] · forum

Poii

Joined February 2016

Poii 2018-01-13T08:32:32+00:00

salchow wrote:
From my modding queue

Poii's Muzukashii

00:07:161 (19) - change this note to k right here because it fits with d k d/k d k patterns: 00:04:566 (11,12,13) - 00:05:863 (15,16,17) ok

K d would reflect pitch way better. :

00:10:404 (32,33)

00:12:998 (43,44)

00:15:593 (55,56)

00:18:188 (66,67)

And then at kai:

01:23:053 (313,314)

01:25:647 (324,325)

01:28:242 (336,337)

01:30:836 (347,348)

01:33:107 (5,6) the 2nd note have snare sound

00:49:647 (182,183) - Ctrl +g these two notes, because the 00:49:647 (182) note is stronger than 00:49:971 (183) note. 183 have both snare and vocal, so i'll keep ti since it have strong sound

Poii's Oni

00:06:998 (26) - I think you should move this note to: 00:06:674 and chnage this note to d: 00:06:512 (24) because I feel that this sound should be mapped: 00:06:674 00:06:350 - better for me

If you have changed these parts on muzukashii: 00:10:404 (41,42) Then you should do it on oni.

00:40:890 (187,188,189,190,191,192,193) - Unrankable issue: Patterns on snaps faster than 1/8 are disallowed. These patterns are too complex for the target audience of this difficulty level. (Ranking criteria) change the stream to 1/6th beats and change it to dkkdkkd to make it more simple. i dunno why that note snapped in 1/8 but i make it 1/6 before, yeah turn it back

Gl ranking it

Muzu

Oni

tutuhaha

3,000 posts

Joined October 2010

tutuhaha 2018-01-13T11:29:18+00:00

M4M

[Easy]
00:55:161 (2) - already touch HP bar so move down litter bit
01:01:647 (2,1) - hmmmm.....personally I dont think you can use some rhythm like this on Easy diff....maybe try something like this？

01:12:025 (2,1) - same
01:22:404 (5,1) - make them parallel

[Normal]
00:20:458 (6) - I suggest just use one circle on here instand of a 1/4 slider
00:35:053 (3,4,5) - rhythm like this？

[Hard]
00:25:323 (3) - rhythm like this？

01:01:161 (2,3,4) - hmmm............I dont suggest doing overlap on 2，3.......it just...give really bad feeling when u playing
01:16:728 (2) - move down litter bit, already touch HP bar
01:20:296 (1,2) - just, merge them together, it will be much better /-\
01:33:431 (x) - I will add circle on here and add finish

[Insane]
00:08:296 (2) - delete slider and add circle？the rhythm:

01:27:431 (3,4,5,6) - rhythm

01:33:107 (1) - NC maybe?

[Space's Insane]
00:09:431 (x) - rhythm

00:59:053 (4) - ctrl+g
00:59:701 (1) - and then ctrl+g this too
01:17:863 (1) - ........The hitsound begin right here become the really werid feeling..........

GOOD xD! Love this song, fighting！！！

Rossi

686 posts

Joined January 2015

Rossi 2018-01-13T14:29:13+00:00

Hi~
From My Queue

Taiko Modding :

[Poii's Muzukashii]
00:13:647 (45) - Mungkin pindah ke 00:13:485 - ? sedikit variasi mungkin gk apa. Cocok juga sih nadanya
00:18:836 (68) - kalau setuju dengan yg diatas, ini juga sama

00:31:161 (119) - Finisher? ada cymbal sound here
00:45:917 (167) - d? emphasize dengan 00:46:242 (168,169) -

01:26:296 (326) - kalau yg tadi setuju dengan yg diatas, ini disamain. Ntar note yg selanjut nya juga

[Poii's Oni]
00:26:458 (119) - d? ngikutin vocal sih. Untuk Muzu gk usah dirubah karna cocok dengan k
Oni udh sip, tinggal menyamai dengan perubahan Muzu^ (kalau setuju dengan mod nya xD)

The map looking good.
Go ranked

Serizawa Haruki

1,658 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Serizawa Haruki 2018-01-13T17:46:42+00:00

tutuhaha wrote:
M4M

[Easy]
00:55:161 (2) - already touch HP bar so move down litter bit Fixed
01:01:647 (2,1) - hmmmm.....personally I dont think you can use some rhythm like this on Easy diff....maybe try something like this？
It's not prohibited to use this rhythm in Easy, especially if it's only used twice. Your suggestion is not really accurate rhythm-wise imo
01:12:025 (2,1) - same ^
01:22:404 (5,1) - make them parallel Fixed

[Insane]
00:08:296 (2) - delete slider and add circle？the rhythm:
There's a sound on the sliderend
01:27:431 (3,4,5,6) - rhythm
Not very accurate and i also don't like placing circles after a slider if there's a 1/4 gap
01:33:107 (1) - NC maybe? I think it's fine like this

GOOD xD! Love this song, fighting！！！

Thank you! I'm gonna mod your map soon

Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2018-01-14T19:43:03+00:00

from queue

[- -

Insane - -]

00:05:377 (2) - Make the spacing smaller because compared to 00:04:566 (3,1) - (which is a 1/1 gap) the spacing is equal which can be confusing
00:11:377 (5,1) - Why did you stack these? There's a cymbal on (1) that deserves more spacing (same for all other stacks in this section in the same part)
00:33:431 (5,3) - Avoiding this overlap would be a good idea
00:48:836 (3) - Make the sliderend clickable because the vocals on 00:48:836 - seem to be quieter than the ones on 00:48:998 -
00:55:161 (3,4) - Make these curved to differentiate them from the previous sliders that were following the instrumental.
00:56:458 (5,6,7,8,1) - This shape isn't perfectly made which can look pretty messy, also major overlapping there that you might want to avoid just to make your map look cleaner.
01:00:998 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - First off, you should put NC on 01:01:485 (4) - because of the repeated part in the song. Second, you should make a spacing difference between 01:01:161 (2,3,5,6) - and 01:00:998 (1,4,7) - because ones have drums and others don't
01:02:134 (1) - Can give more emphasis to this slider because of the strong vocal + drum
01:33:107 (6) - There's a pretty strong cymbal and vocal on this beat, should be clickable.
What I noticed in this diff is that most of your patterns seem really clustered which is also shown when you Ctrl+A, also most of your jumps are the same regardless of the intensity of the song so you should work on that as well

[- -

Elcheer's Insane - -]

00:01:323 (1,2,3) - Why didn't you make these equally spaced?
00:02:296 (5,6) - This is a very calm section and you already have very spaced jumps like these, I recommend that you scale them down and make them smaller so that they fit the intensity, it also gives more contrast from the kiai (which is the most intense part)
00:15:107 (6,8) - There are no sounds on these beats, delete these circles
00:17:215 (2,3) - Stack to represent the same guitar pitch
00:20:133 (6) - Try to give this more emphasis by making 00:19:971 (4) - into a kickslider
00:20:782 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing
00:23:377 (1,2,3,4) - A lot of overmapping here, maybe try putting more sliders instead to represent vocals?
00:41:215 (2) - Space more to avoid the pattern looking clustered
00:41:539 (1) - Put more spacing emphasis on this slider
01:10:728 (4) - Move upwards more to make it look better
01:12:107 (2) - There's not a sound on this circle
01:12:998 (2) - More spacing to make emphasis
01:15:107 (1) - Same here
What I noticed is that your rhythm doesn't make sense and so doesn't your spacing, you should rethink of a way to emphasize a certain instrument like vocals or guitar in one section and not mix it up because it's a lot cleaner, also put more spacing emphasis on strong sounds

[- -

Desperation - -]

00:00:674 (4) - Flows badly because this slider is tilted, fix
00:08:296 (2,3,4,5,6) - Make this gradually increase in spacing because of the increase in intensity in the song
00:22:566 (2,3) - Ctrl+J to improve the flow and move it, something like this should work
00:29:863 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This jumps are way overdone because the drums aren't even loud and you're putting high spacing, unless on 00:30:836 (7) - where the drum is strong
00:31:161 - This section deserves overall bigger spacing to differentiate it from 00:20:782 - since now the intensity is bigger
00:37:323 (5) - Deserves bigger spacing because drum
00:52:080 (2) - There isn't a strong sound on this beat which means you should make the spacing here smaller
00:55:809 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Make the spacing gradually increase because of the increasing intensity of the drums
01:00:998 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Same as on the Insane
01:12:188 (4,5,6,7) - Make the spacing bigger because of the intensity
01:33:107 (7) - Same as on the Insane

Kyle Y

1,204 posts

Joined November 2013

Kyle Y 2018-01-15T00:43:30+00:00

J a c k wrote:
Btw about the end of the song:
Kyle Y, I think you made 01:33:107 (5) - too short by mistake, it should last until 01:33:431 - fixed

Lafayla wrote:
ky
00:43:809 (3,1) - visual spacing would look better if similar to 00:44:782 (2,3) - fixed
00:55:809 (1,1) - this diff was pretty clean until this, i see the square pattern happening but im sure there is something cleaner that can be put here instead remain, to warn similar pattern will be used afterward
00:57:107 - a circle for that cymbal crash hitsound would be cool and making the repeat just a 1/2 slider remain, using circle without jump cannot have that effect.

best of wishes with the mapset jack

tiffany yu tyu wrote:
hai NM here
[Hard]just a question, but why would u put a circle here 00:04:242 (2) - why don't you extend the slider instead? beat is strong to use extented. and this song consis of a number of extented, so extented can be used in this way.
01:08:134 (3,4,5) - stack? looks better intend to do so.
01:09:431 (3,4,5) - ^[/box]
ok that's it I am only good modding low levels
btw I like your map so a star and I like honeyworks and their songs too
good luck PLS RANK

tutuhaha wrote:
[Hard]
00:25:323 (3) - rhythm like this？

01:01:161 (2,3,4) - hmmm............I dont suggest doing overlap on 2，3.......it just...give really bad feeling when u playingI think there is no problem, wait for further modding.
01:16:728 (2) - move down litter bit, already touch HP bar fixed, finally someone mentioned it. I know this problem before and lazy to fix.
01:20:296 (1,2) - just, merge them together, it will be much better /-\ both are okay, then I remain.
01:33:431 (x) - I will add circle on here and add finish fixed.

ky's update

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Serizawa Haruki

1,658 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Serizawa Haruki 2018-01-15T17:16:08+00:00

[ L u k a s ] wrote:
from queue

[- - Insane - -]
00:05:377 (2) - Make the spacing smaller because compared to 00:04:566 (3,1) - (which is a 1/1 gap) the spacing is equal which can be confusing Fixed
00:11:377 (5,1) - Why did you stack these? There's a cymbal on (1) that deserves more spacing (same for all other stacks in this section in the same part) I know but at the same time there's a stronger drum on (5) and I can't really emphasize both because then it would not be different, I feel like this part is really hard to give the right emphasis because almost all sounds are important. I am not really bothered by the stacks tbh and I would have to remap the entire part which is just annoying but I will keep it in mind
00:33:431 (5,3) - Avoiding this overlap would be a good idea Fixed
00:48:836 (3) - Make the sliderend clickable because the vocals on 00:48:836 - seem to be quieter than the ones on 00:48:998 - Yeah but using 2 circles would mean that they are also equally important so it wouldn't really change the emphasis here, I think it's fine like this because the whole section is calm
00:55:161 (3,4) - Make these curved to differentiate them from the previous sliders that were following the instrumental. Fixed
00:56:458 (5,6,7,8,1) - This shape isn't perfectly made which can look pretty messy, also major overlapping there that you might want to avoid just to make your map look cleaner. Remapped and fixed
01:00:998 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - First off, you should put NC on 01:01:485 (4) - because of the repeated part in the song. Second, you should make a spacing difference between 01:01:161 (2,3,5,6) - and 01:00:998 (1,4,7) - because ones have drums and others don't Nope, I consider them all as one group so no NC here imo. Also, they all have drums but they are just not the same type of drums, I will keep this pattern
01:02:134 (1) - Can give more emphasis to this slider because of the strong vocal + drum It already has the most emphasis, no need to exaggerate
01:33:107 (6) - There's a pretty strong cymbal and vocal on this beat, should be clickable. Fixed
What I noticed in this diff is that most of your patterns seem really clustered which is also shown when you Ctrl+A, also most of your jumps are the same regardless of the intensity of the song so you should work on that as well I improved some patterns

[- - Desperation - -]
00:00:674 (4) - Flows badly because this slider is tilted, fix Yup
00:08:296 (2,3,4,5,6) - Make this gradually increase in spacing because of the increase in intensity in the song It's already increasing
00:22:566 (2,3) - Ctrl+J to improve the flow and move it, something like this should work Ok changed this pattern
00:29:863 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This jumps are way overdone because the drums aren't even loud and you're putting high spacing, unless on 00:30:836 (7) - where the drum is strong Nope, the drums are strong and the jumps are not even big lmao
00:31:161 - This section deserves overall bigger spacing to differentiate it from 00:20:782 - since now the intensity is bigger Could be,
but I think the fact that I mapped the drums and not the vocals here is already differentiating it enough
00:37:323 (5) - Deserves bigger spacing because drum It's not different than other drums so why would I do that
00:52:080 (2) - There isn't a strong sound on this beat which means you should make the spacing here smaller Yeah but this is to indicate that it's part of the vocals because I separated vocals and instrumental parts in this section
00:55:809 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Make the spacing gradually increase because of the increasing intensity of the drums The spacing is already increasing
01:00:998 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Same as on the Insane This is perfectly fine
01:12:188 (4,5,6,7) - Make the spacing bigger because of the intensity No, I prefer keeping consistency for aesthetics
01:33:107 (7) - Same as on the Insane Fixed

Thanks for the mod! :3

igorsprite

623 posts

Joined September 2015

igorsprite 2018-01-16T00:13:43+00:00

i love honeyworks without chico *-*

Poii's Oni

● this bug xd, open the .osu and change manually the SV to 1.40 again
● 00:06:512 - change to d and move 00:06:350 - to 00:06:674 - since you did the same thing here 00:05:215 (19,20,21) -
● 01:22:404 (370,371,372,373,374,375) - change to this? (kkddk d D)
● 00:15:107 (64,65,66) - change to kkd? have a different sound from 00:14:782 (61,62,63) - but it's mapped with ddk too
● 01:27:755 (399,400,401) - ^
● 00:20:296 (90,91,92) - ^ (but make kkddddk)
● i will play a lot this diff when you fix :3

Poii's Muzukashii

● 00:15:107 (52,53) - move to 00:14:701 - , follow better the sound
● 01:27:755 (333,334) - ^
● 00:41:863 - green line here with 0.75x?
● ^ if yes put a green line here 00:51:917 - with 1.00x
● 00:57:755 - green line here with 0.75x?
● ^ if yes put a green line here 01:00:998 - with 1.00x
● 01:04:080 - d? follow better the vocal
● 01:10:242 - d? you did the same thing here 01:08:620 (248,249) -

D o t

250 posts

Joined May 2016

D o t 2018-01-16T17:09:31+00:00

requested by J a c k.

[Poii's Oni]
pls fixed the SV to 1.40. it's 1.96 now.
01:20:296 (360,367) - why finish here? i felt inconsistence.
01:22:647 - how about add a d?

[Poii's Muzukashii]
00:31:161 (119) - can add a finish here.
00:56:620 (206) - change to k? the same sound as 205, 207, 208.
01:20:296 (300,306) - same as Oni.

that's all. good luck

Poii

1,438 posts

Joined February 2016

Poii 2018-01-16T17:12:19+00:00

im very tired rn, will check the mod tmr, yeah RIP irl work
im sorry for the delay

Saoji

825 posts

Joined February 2013

Saoji 2018-01-17T23:07:40+00:00

[Easy]

00:21:755 (2,2,1) - All those overlaps look a bit messy. And also because of that, the space used from 00:18:188 (1) - to 00:31:161 (1) - is really restricted.
01:05:539 (2,1) - ^ try to make 01:07:323 (1) - go on the bottom of the screen. https://puu.sh/z3Qjt/32e1331d76.png
01:21:431 - You should add a note here to avoid the polarity issue and beat is quite audible too.

[Irohas' Normal]

01:27:269 (4) - Would be more accurate to put the NC here and remove it from 01:27:593 (1) - (or simply remove the NC)
01:32:458 (4) - Then you could add one here to stay constant.

[Ky's Hard]

00:09:107 (5) - Placing this note around x336y232 would give a better flow.
00:24:674 (1) - There's nothing that really supports a 1/4 in the music here, 1/2 would follow the melody as well and be more natural especially for a hard diff
00:35:701 (3) - Same here, if you want to emphasize vocal you can put a 1/1 instead.
01:33:107 (5) - Pattern looks cool, but shouldn't this slider be 1/4 (same as you did for 01:32:782 (4) - )

[Insane]

00:39:269 (2) - stacking with 00:38:458 (4) - would give a neater feel.
01:20:944 (3,5) - Try lower them by 1 grid so it won't touch the hp bar. It's not really neat right now.

[Space's Insane]

00:05:215 (1,2) - I feel the emphasize you want to give is a bit waster because the flow is a bit poor. 00:04:890 (4,1) - is less spaced than 00:04:566 (3,4) - Also I'd suggest to move 00:05:215 (1) - around x488y192
00:06:350 (3,1,2) - Same here 3 notes has the same distance while making a jump only for those 2 00:06:512 (1,2) - would give way more impact.
01:19:161 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I don't think the progressive spacing change is fitting here. Actually you could even put a 1/2 slider here 01:19:809 (5) - But well... If you want to keep this rhythm, you could put 01:19:647 (4,6) - on the same line that 01:19:323 (2) - just as you did for 01:19:161 (1,3,5) - It would look better too.

[Fapu's Extra]

00:07:161 (4,5) - Rhythm is inconsistent with 00:07:809 (1) - and 00:07:809 (1,2) - is hard to read because besides expecting the same rhythm, it's viusally the same DS than 000:07:161 (4,5) -

[Desperation]

You should reduce hitsounds of this part to 25% or smthing. It's really loud as it is right now.

Kyle Y

1,204 posts

Joined November 2013

Kyle Y 2018-01-18T19:22:00+00:00

Yales wrote:
[Ky's Hard]
00:09:107 (5) - Placing this note around x336y232 would give a better flow. remain, minor. flowing here do not affect too much.
00:24:674 (1) - There's nothing that really supports a 1/4 in the music here, 1/2 would follow the melody as well and be more natural especially for a hard diff but it is quite boring for the repeated rhythm.
00:35:701 (3) - Same here, if you want to emphasize vocal you can put a 1/1 instead. slider end cannot emphasis anything,
also it is boring to have only 1/2 and 1/1
01:33:107 (5) - Pattern looks cool, but shouldn't this slider be 1/4 (same as you did for 01:32:782 (4) - )it is the same as
01:30:188 (3) - 01:27:593 (5) - 01:24:998 (3) - . If you talk about 01:33:107 (5) - should be a circle, then my response is that this slider is to show the end of the song.
[/list]

No change.

Serizawa Haruki

1,658 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Serizawa Haruki 2018-01-18T20:21:25+00:00

Yales wrote:
[Easy]
00:21:755 (2,2,1) - All those overlaps look a bit messy. And also because of that, the space used from 00:18:188 (1) - to 00:31:161 (1) - is really restricted. I don't really agree because the overlaps are distant in time and they are necessary to create good patterns. The space used is completely irrelevant tbh
01:05:539 (2,1) - ^ try to make 01:07:323 (1) - go on the bottom of the screen. https://puu.sh/z3Qjt/32e1331d76.png Why tho, it would only break flow
01:21:431 - You should add a note here to avoid the polarity issue and beat is quite audible too. Nah that would be too hard for an Easy
[Insane]
00:39:269 (2) - stacking with 00:38:458 (4) - would give a neater feel. Fixed
01:20:944 (3,5) - Try lower them by 1 grid so it won't touch the hp bar. It's not really neat right now. Fixed
[Desperation]
You should reduce hitsounds of this part to 25% or smthing. It's really loud as it is right now. Which part? Hitsound volume seems fine imo

Thanks for the mod

- Pika

160 posts

Joined March 2017

- Pika 2018-01-19T00:45:18+00:00

Azzy here!

Desperation

To start, the jumps are very uncomfortable, maybe try to make them not so overlapped please?
Unless that's what you want, ignore this!

These are my personal opinions, you don't have to do any of these.

00:00:026 - Maybe this at x124 y188?
00:00:350 - x357 y 200?
00:00:512 - x252 y104?
00:00:674 - x288 y260?
These bother me because they were a bit to close.

00:05:215 - I think this should be at coordinates = x320 y232?
00:10:566 - Put at the end of the 2nd slider before?
00:10:890 - x368 y96?
00:21:384 - x280 y200?
00:40:890 - 00:41:431 - 3 note mini jump? Your choice.

01:08:458 - x156 y164?
01:09:712 - x420 y200?

Weird cut off at the end, wot.
You didn't specify which diff you wanted modded so... I only modded this!
Want more? PM me!
Azzy~

Saoji

825 posts

Joined February 2013

Saoji 2018-01-19T01:30:13+00:00

J a c k wrote:
[Desperation]
You should reduce hitsounds of this part to 25% or smthing. It's really loud as it is right now. Which part? Hitsound volume seems fine imo

Oops, I was talking about this part 00:57:755 (1) - (it's -really- loud)

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And, I don't really care, but while I'm at it: I'll develop my opinion.

when you say for easy:

00:21:755 (2,2,1) - All those overlaps look a bit messy. And also because of that, the space used from 00:18:188 (1) - to 00:31:161 (1) - is really restricted. I don't really agree because the overlaps are distant in time and they are necessary to create good patterns. The space used is completely irrelevant tbh

-> https://puu.sh/z4Fov/4d54945dbd.jpg this is the area you used for 20 seconds straight in a song of 1 min 33. If it's not relevant gameplay wise, it might be seen as a (rankable) quality issue to your map. (And no, random overlaps aren't "necessary" but it's not an obligation to avoid them! It would just improve visual quality. That was my point. I guess nobody cares about that anymore though xd

01:05:539 (2,1) - ^ try to make 01:07:323 (1) - go on the bottom of the screen. https://puu.sh/z3Qjt/32e1331d76.png Why tho, it would only break flow

-> Because the random overlap : 01:05:539 (2,1) - doesn't look good at all (tail not centered). but ye subjectivityyyyy

For hard diff

00:09:107 (5) - Placing this note around x336y232 would give a better flow. remain, minor. flowing here do not affect too much.

-> Might be minor but this is a suggestion to improve (visual) quality (this is what mod are for), up to you though.

00:35:701 (3) - Same here, if you want to emphasize vocal you can put a 1/1 instead. slider end cannot emphasis anything,

-> 1/1 slider do not emphasis anything?? well... when I see the actual meta I can't blame you :c

But:

00:24:674 (1) - There's nothing that really supports a 1/4 in the music here, 1/2 would follow the melody as well and be more natural especially for a hard diff but it is quite boring for the repeated rhythm.

->Saying it's ok to overmap a hard diff because otherwise "it's boring" is a bit meh.

01:33:107 (5) - Pattern looks cool, but shouldn't this slider be 1/4 (same as you did for 01:32:782 (4) - )it is the same as
01:30:188 (3) - 01:27:593 (5) - 01:24:998 (3) - . If you talk about 01:33:107 (5) - should be a circle, then my response is that this slider is to show the end of the song.

->I was telling you to do this https://puu.sh/z4FJE/c4449268f5.png to emphasis the last note ... as you tend to do lol. It's clickable here 00:20:782 (1) - for example so ye, might be better to stay constant but w/e xd

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But ye w/e. Obviously, I don't need kd for this, I just found some of your answer quite debatable, sooo yep!

Kyle Y

1,204 posts

Joined November 2013

Kyle Y 2018-01-19T05:21:23+00:00

Yales wrote:
For hard diff

00:09:107 (5) - Placing this note around x336y232 would give a better flow. remain, minor. flowing here do not affect too much.
-> Might be minor but this is a suggestion to improve quality (visually), up to you though.
because it do not have a great different in flowing, and it is not unrankable. um... visually improvement is quite subjective,
like some people like placing in format, like 00:52:239 - I rotated this slider 40 degree to next slider and 60 degree to next next slider, some people do not like it, and I think it's okay.

00:35:701 (3) - Same here, if you want to emphasize vocal you can put a 1/1 instead. slider end cannot emphasis anything,
-> 1/1 slider do not emphasis anything?? well... when I see the actual meta I can't blame you :c
-> quite depends in fact, but for me, I like using clickable object to emphasis vocal and beats, that's why I choose extented slider. I think slider end is too weak for emphasizing.
1/1 slider is good for emphasize slider head by using jumping, but for the slider end, it is not that suitable to emphasize vocal/ beats compare with clickable objects.

But:
00:24:674 (1) - There's nothing that really supports a 1/4 in the music here, 1/2 would follow the melody as well and be more natural especially for a hard diff but it is quite boring for the repeated rhythm.
->Saying it's ok to overmap a hard diff because otherwise "it's boring" is a bit meh.
-> not really overmapping, but this mapping style (extented slider mapping) is not mainstream is truth, but I still want to use this style.
(At least I can say it is rankable for sure)

-> I think extented slider can emphasize beat/vocal at slider head and the coming circle (or sider head), because it is clickable.

->just placing 1/1 and 1/2 is quite boring to me, and I cannot make so many patterns. If there is some different in rhythm,
I believe it can emphasize that beat by paying extra attention on it.

->Of course, extended slider is quite debatable, I agree, and I always commented by other modder saying it is too hard for Hard diff. At least I will reduce it, and make the rhythm repeats and repeats. Hopefully extended mapping could be widely used in the future. That's not a problem with love.

01:33:107 (5) - Pattern looks cool, but shouldn't this slider be 1/4 (same as you did for 01:32:782 (4) - )it is the same as
01:30:188 (3) - 01:27:593 (5) - 01:24:998 (3) - . If you talk about 01:33:107 (5) - should be a circle, then my response is that this slider is to show the end of the song.
->I was telling you to do this https://puu.sh/z4FJE/c4449268f5.png to emphasis the last note ... as you tend to do lol. It's clickable here 00:20:782 (1) - for example so ye, might be better to stay constant but w/e xd
-> I will test on this rhythm later on.

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But ye w/e. Obivously, I don't need kd for this yep, based on rules., I just found some of your answer quite debatable, sooo yep! you're a good modder, providing reasons for modding, and further debate on our comment. It is good for both of us, I believe it.

Jack is still new in mapping, and his overlapping need to be improved undoubtedly. (and it may takes a long time)

Hope that we can debate next time, maybe when you modded my other guest diff in the future. And continuous to comment on my extended slider, welcome.

And..... sorry for wasting your time to read such a long paragraph.

Skylish

1,070 posts

Joined June 2013

Skylish 2018-01-19T15:07:31+00:00

Owner requested in my modding queue, so here's a Taiko mode check:

[General]

! The spread between Muzukashii and Oni is very poor. You cannot just add-or-remove notes in two difficulties. Distinct structual changes are expected! I will talk about it in Oni.

! Metadata error: The Artist name should be 'Gero' only. Add 'honeyworks' and 'EGOIST' into the tag column.

Source: http://honeyworks.jp/news/2127

http://gero-official.jp/sp/egoist/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H4IwXS ... e=youtu.be

> Volume setting:
00:00:026 - 50-60%, 85% is too loud.
00:05:215 - 70-80%
00:10:404 - back to 85%
00:20:782 - 70-80%
00:31:161 - 85% again, main theme
00:41:539 - 50-60%
00:51:917 - 70-80%
00:57:107 - 50-60%
01:00:998 - direct 85% is fine, or 75% can create a nice effect too.

[Muzukashii]

> 00:20:458 - how about kkk D to show a similar pattern with 00:19:809 (73,74,75,76) - ? The drum elements behind is supportive for it.

^ 00:20:782 - If you adopt the above changes, you will find that D d k is a bit weird. The densed starting looks a bit too full. D _ d _ k (compare with 00:22:080 - d _ d _ k) sounds better at 00:20:782 - , 00:21:107 - is changed to don to express the vocal sharpness at 00:21:431 -

> 00:25:971 - either D or k to show the presence of snare. Personally k ddk in 1/2 snapper is prefered here

> 00:31:161 - D should be applied this time. While 00:30:998 - is a bit clumsy it could be just removed for a cleaner cut.

> 00:40:728 - mis-snapped note. It should be 1/3 fall behind the kick at 00:40:890 - . You can directly remove it in Muzukashii. Leaving any 1/3 complex patterns in Oni would be a smart choice.

> 00:42:188 - / 00:42:512 - ctrl+G to fit the vocal pitch well

> 00:46:728 - same situation as 00:25:971 -

> 01:01:647 - triplet don to show the tension growth to the Kiai

> 01:08:944 - changing it to k for a better note flow

> 01:09:917 - missed a Finisher, comparing with 01:07:323 -

> 01:12:512 - Finisher is required obviously

> 01:19:485 - unnatural emptiness here, no need to special emphasize 01:19:323 - imo by isolating it. Add back a kat there.

^ 01:21:917 - same as above, don for this time.

[Oni]

! The first impression of Oni is: it is extremely undermapped and a more like copy-and-paste work from Muzukashii with extra notes added merely. The number of objects (combo) is expected to reach 500+ for a better M-O spread. [b] Look at every '!'.

> 00:06:188 - kkddk to fill 00:06:674 - it back. The strong base drum hit cannot be missed. 00:06:350 - / 00:06:512 - is inverted for the pitch flow and consistent don= strong base drum at 00:05:215 (19,20) -

! 00:10:404 (1) - / 00:15:593 - The concept of development of Oni pattern in this section is weak. It should be packed with 1/2 patterns with some 1/4 patterns wisely scattered in the highlight parts. For example,

> 00:14:782 - changing to k to enrich the flavours of 00:14:944 - / 00:15:269 - . The former has higher pitch so its companiment should be a kat, while 00:15:107 - is a don.

> 00:19:647 - d k kdk ddkkddk seems funnier to show a strong colour variation comparing with Muzukashii's part.

! 00:31:161 - You can hear that there is a richer instrumental layer at this section comparing with 00:20:782 - . 00:31:161 - should have denser notes and more complicated patterns. A density spread within the difficulty should also be displayed well.

You may take the following patterns as examples of how to increase the note density to show the relative tension of music:

00:31:161 (1) -

00:33:431 (14) -

! Feel the density differences between my suggestion and your current notes; my suggestion in Oni with Muzukashii's; and your current notes with Muzukashii's. Try to find a balance in between 3 aspects. Fix 00:36:350 - on your own.

> 00:40:728 - same in Muzukashii, it falls on 00:40:782 -

> 00:53:377 - / 00:54:674 - you can a don and kat respectively to make the pattern less dull.

! 01:02:134 - / 01:23:053 - You have to fix them on your own based on your preferences in reviewing my mods above. I will leave these two major parts for you. Big fixes or even re-map are required. Only moderating with the above clear-stated suggestion can already boost the combo to 446, my expectation is not just out of imagination.

[]

Taiko set is not ready now. It needs another cycle of modding process after huge fixes.

Faputa

osu! Alumni

1,081 posts

Joined May 2011

Faputa 2018-01-19T15:27:29+00:00

Josh123uaJ wrote:
Ayy from q. Sry for being late.

I don't have much to say since this map is already solid.

Fapu's Extra:
00:20:458 (4,5,6,7) - Claps are missing. My mistake.
00:30:998 (7,9,10) - ^ Fixed as well
01:32:782 (3,4) - I think this can be replaced by circles since you used them in areas like 00:20:458 (4,5,6,7). Its the end of the map, I think using streams here makes the difficulty curve weird.

Nice mapset and GL reaching rank!

Yales wrote:
[Fapu's Extra]
00:07:161 (4,5) - Rhythm is inconsistent with 00:07:809 (1) - and 00:07:809 (1,2) - is hard to read because besides expecting the same rhythm, it's viusally the same DS than 000:07:161 (4,5) - I disagree, I map so that 00:07:161 (4,5,6) - resembles 00:02:620 (1,2) - 's feeling, there's a 4/1 -> 3/1 -> Stream progression, that I think its suitable for this song.

Last edited by Faputa 2018-02-14T02:31:45+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Serizawa Haruki

1,658 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Serizawa Haruki 2018-01-19T16:36:04+00:00

Skylish wrote:
Owner requested in my modding queue, so here's a Taiko mode check:

[General]

! Metadata error: The Artist name should be 'Gero' only. Add 'honeyworks' and 'EGOIST' into the tag column.

Source: http://honeyworks.jp/news/2127
http://gero-official.jp/sp/egoist/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H4IwXS ... e=youtu.be

Thanks for the mod! But I'm not sure if you're correct about the metadata.
It's true that the song is included in Gero's Album but I don't think that means that the artist should be "Gero" only because of the following reasons:
1. It seems like you only underlined everything that says "Gero" but you didn't look at the rest carefully. Because actually, the text on the official HoneyWorks website says that HoneyWorks released the song "Jakusha no Sengen", which is included in Gero's 4th album "EGOIST", on July 26.
2. I noticed that you circled the link to Gero's official website but that is not really any proof since it's obvious to link an artist's website if they are involved in the song.
3. The picture of the album's track list also says that the song was produced entirely by HoneyWorks.
4. It's included in this album but it's still a HoneyWorks song that they released themselves.
5. You ignored the link to Gero's official Niconico upload of this song (I put it in the map's description): http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31562970. As far as I'm concerned this counts as an official and reliable metadata source and it clearly says "Jakusha no Sengen" / HoneyWorks feat. Gero. In all other "sources" it's very ambiguous as the full artist and title are never written explicitly together.
6. The YouTube link to Gero's official upload has both Gero and HoneyWorks in the title so that's not very clear.
7. The original song was released by HoneyWorks feat. GUMI. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HkPWgf ... e=youtu.be

Therefore I believe that the artist is correct as it is right now but thanks for checking, maybe someone else can provide a more evident metadata source. I added EGOIST to the tags though.

Serizawa Haruki

1,658 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Serizawa Haruki 2018-01-19T17:31:47+00:00

-AsrieLx- wrote:
Azzy here!

Desperation
To start, the jumps are very uncomfortable, maybe try to make them not so overlapped please? Lmao what? They are not uncomfortable at all, although you're probably right about the overlaps
Unless that's what you want, ignore this!

These are my personal opinions, you don't have to do any of these.

00:00:026 - Maybe this at x124 y188?
00:00:350 - x357 y 200?
00:00:512 - x252 y104?
00:00:674 - x288 y260?
These bother me because they were a bit to close. I'm going to change this pattern completely anyways

00:05:215 - I think this should be at coordinates = x320 y232? Fixed
00:10:566 - Put at the end of the 2nd slider before? I'm changing those sliders so yeah
00:10:890 - x368 y96? This is fine imo
00:21:384 - x280 y200? Same as above
00:40:890 - 00:41:431 - 3 note mini jump? Your choice. This rhythm is different from the rest of the map and it would only cause players to hit 100s if these were circles
01:08:458 - x156 y164? Nah I want to emphasize (1) here
01:09:712 - x420 y200? No this should be on the same position as the previous jumps

Weird cut off at the end, wot. wdym lol
You didn't specify which diff you wanted modded so... I only modded this!
Want more? PM me!
Azzy~

Yales wrote:
J a c k wrote:
[Desperation]
You should reduce hitsounds of this part to 25% or smthing. It's really loud as it is right now. Which part? Hitsound volume seems fine imo
Oops, I was talking about this part 00:57:755 (1) - (it's -really- loud) Fixed

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And, I don't really care, but while I'm at it: I'll develop my opinion.

when you say for easy:

00:21:755 (2,2,1) - All those overlaps look a bit messy. And also because of that, the space used from 00:18:188 (1) - to 00:31:161 (1) - is really restricted. I don't really agree because the overlaps are distant in time and they are necessary to create good patterns. The space used is completely irrelevant tbh
-> https://puu.sh/z4Fov/4d54945dbd.jpg this is the area you used for 20 seconds straight in a song of 1 min 33. If it's not relevant gameplay wise, it might be seen as a (rankable) quality issue to your map. (And no, random overlaps aren't "necessary" but it's not an obligation to avoid them! It would just improve visual quality. That was my point. I guess nobody cares about that anymore though xd The thing is that they are not really noticeable and that it's nearly impossible to avoid overlaps completely. And as I said before, idc about the are used

01:05:539 (2,1) - ^ try to make 01:07:323 (1) - go on the bottom of the screen. https://puu.sh/z3Qjt/32e1331d76.png Why tho, it would only break flow
-> Because the random overlap : 01:05:539 (2,1) - doesn't look good at all (tail not centered). but ye subjectivityyyyy It's not random, I placed it exactly under the other slider, it's really not that bad

But ye w/e. Obviously, I don't need kd for this, I just found some of your answer quite debatable, sooo yep!

Thanks for clarifying

Spayyce

693 posts

Joined December 2013

Spayyce 2018-01-19T18:33:22+00:00

Yales wrote:
[Space's Insane]
00:05:215 (1,2) - I feel the emphasize you want to give is a bit waster because the flow is a bit poor. 00:04:890 (4,1) - is less spaced than 00:04:566 (3,4) - Also I'd suggest to move 00:05:215 (1) - around x488y192 Nah I feel too many notes would condensed in that area if I move it there and the emphasis is in the right place.
00:06:350 (3,1,2) - Same here 3 notes has the same distance while making a jump only for those 2 00:06:512 (1,2) - would give way more impact. Same as ^
01:19:161 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I don't think the progressive spacing change is fitting here. Actually you could even put a 1/2 slider here 01:19:809 (5) - But well... If you want to keep this rhythm, you could put 01:19:647 (4,6) - on the same line that 01:19:323 (2) - just as you did for 01:19:161 (1,3,5) - It would look better too. I've done this to express emphasis on the most hyped part of the kiai, I feel it works well with the music as it reaches its climax.

Thanks for the mod c:

Skylish

1,070 posts

Joined June 2013

Skylish 2018-01-20T02:22:59+00:00

The priority of choosing metadata:

Official website of release of album and its company if possible and available >

Singers/Artists' personal websites open sources (like niconico) >

Youtube official trailer or release >

Reliable Wiki page (Wiki itself is not reliable though, it should not be counted as a metadata source in any circumstances unless there's no other hints)

i.e. Honeywork and Gero's official pages are the most reliable sources.

IF it is a 'Singer ft. Composer' type, it should be like: lapix - Live Nor Die ft. Kanae Asaba = Composer/Remixer - Title ft. Singer http://megarex.jp/mrx-011.html

Everything should be stated very clearly in the official websites, if not, judge it with common sense and follow general metadata procedure.

Elcheer

419 posts

Joined May 2014

Elcheer 2018-01-20T03:55:50+00:00

[ L u k a s ] wrote:
[- - Elcheer's Insane - -]
00:01:323 (1,2,3) - Why didn't you make these equally spaced? fixed
00:02:296 (5,6) - This is a very calm section and you already have very spaced jumps like these, I recommend that you scale them down and make them smaller so that they fit the intensity, it also gives more contrast from the kiai (which is the most intense part) tried to do something with it
00:15:107 (6,8) - There are no sounds on these beats, delete these circles fixed
00:17:215 (2,3) - Stack to represent the same guitar pitch fixed
00:20:133 (6) - Try to give this more emphasis by making 00:19:971 (4) - into a kickslider fixed
00:20:782 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing fixed (?)
00:23:377 (1,2,3,4) - A lot of overmapping here, maybe try putting more sliders instead to represent vocals? fixed (?)
00:41:215 (2) - Space more to avoid the pattern looking clustered fixed (?)
00:41:539 (1) - Put more spacing emphasis on this slider fixed
01:10:728 (4) - Move upwards more to make it look better fixed (?)
01:12:107 (2) - There's not a sound on this circle fixed
01:12:998 (2) - More spacing to make emphasis fixed
01:15:107 (1) - Same here fixed
What I noticed is that your rhythm doesn't make sense and so doesn't your spacing, you should rethink of a way to emphasize a certain instrument like vocals or guitar in one section and not mix it up because it's a lot cleaner, also put more spacing emphasis on strong sounds noted

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Title:Jakusha no Sengen
TitleUnicode:弱者の宣言
Artist:HoneyWorks feat. Gero
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Tags:EGOIST Irohas MugiwaraSekai Kyle_Y Elcheer -Space- Faputa Poii
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Poii

1,438 posts

Joined February 2016

Poii 2018-01-20T06:55:51+00:00

Igor Sprite wrote:
i love honeyworks without chico *-*

Poii's Oni
● this bug xd, open the .osu and change manually the SV to 1.40 again yeah
● 00:06:512 - change to d and move 00:06:350 - to 00:06:674 - since you did the same thing here 00:05:215 (19,20,21) - 00:06:350 - have vocal
● 01:22:404 (370,371,372,373,374,375) - change to this? (kkddk d D) i'll try
● 00:15:107 (64,65,66) - change to kkd? have a different sound from 00:14:782 (61,62,63) - but it's mapped with ddk too the drum have same sound for me
● 01:27:755 (399,400,401) - ^
● 00:20:296 (90,91,92) - ^ (but make kkddddk) it fit better, the first 2 don, fill the tomtom
● i will play a lot this diff when you fix :3

Poii's Muzukashii
● 00:15:107 (52,53) - move to 00:14:701 - , follow better the sound
● 01:27:755 (333,334) - ^ yeah
● 00:41:863 - green line here with 0.75x? no greenlines
● ^ if yes put a green line here 00:51:917 - with 1.00x
● 00:57:755 - green line here with 0.75x?
● ^ if yes put a green line here 01:00:998 - with 1.00x
● 01:04:080 - d? follow better the vocal high pitch
● 01:10:242 - d? you did the same thing here 01:08:620 (248,249) -
ok

D o t wrote:
requested by J a c k.

[Poii's Oni]
pls fixed the SV to 1.40. it's 1.96 now.
01:20:296 (360,367) - why finish here? i felt inconsistence.my bad
01:22:647 - how about add a d? yeah

[Poii's Muzukashii]
00:31:161 (119) - can add a finish here. inconsistent
00:56:620 (206) - change to k? the same sound as 205, 207, 208. my bad
01:20:296 (300,306) - same as Oni.

that's all. good luck

Skylish wrote:
Owner requested in my modding queue, so here's a Taiko mode check:

[General]

! The spread between Muzukashii and Oni is very poor. You cannot just add-or-remove notes in two difficulties. Distinct structual changes are expected! I will talk about it in Oni.

> Volume setting:
00:00:026 - 50-60%, 85% is too loud.
00:05:215 - 70-80%
00:10:404 - back to 85%
00:20:782 - 70-80%
00:31:161 - 85% again, main theme
00:41:539 - 50-60%
00:51:917 - 70-80%
00:57:107 - 50-60%
01:00:998 - direct 85% is fine, or 75% can create a nice effect too.

[Muzukashii]

> 00:20:458 - how about kkk D to show a similar pattern with 00:19:809 (73,74,75,76) - ? The drum elements behind is supportive for it.

^ 00:20:782 - If you adopt the above changes, you will find that D d k is a bit weird. The densed starting looks a bit too full. D _ d _ k (compare with 00:22:080 - d _ d _ k) sounds better at 00:20:782 - , 00:21:107 - is changed to don to express the vocal sharpness at 00:21:431 -

> 00:25:971 - either D or k to show the presence of snare. Personally k ddk in 1/2 snapper is prefered here

> 00:31:161 - D should be applied this time. While 00:30:998 - is a bit clumsy it could be just removed for a cleaner cut.

> 00:40:728 - mis-snapped note. It should be 1/3 fall behind the kick at 00:40:890 - . You can directly remove it in Muzukashii. Leaving any 1/3 complex patterns in Oni would be a smart choice.

> 00:42:188 - / 00:42:512 - ctrl+G to fit the vocal pitch well

> 00:46:728 - same situation as 00:25:971 -

> 01:01:647 - triplet don to show the tension growth to the Kiai

> 01:08:944 - changing it to k for a better note flow

> 01:09:917 - missed a Finisher, comparing with 01:07:323 -

> 01:12:512 - Finisher is required obviously

> 01:19:485 - unnatural emptiness here, no need to special emphasize 01:19:323 - imo by isolating it. Add back a kat there.

^ 01:21:917 - same as above, don for this time.

[Oni]

! The first impression of Oni is: it is extremely undermapped and a more like copy-and-paste work from Muzukashii with extra notes added merely. The number of objects (combo) is expected to reach 500+ for a better M-O spread. Look at every '!'.

> 00:06:188 - kkddk to fill 00:06:674 - it back. The strong base drum hit cannot be missed. 00:06:350 - / 00:06:512 - is inverted for the pitch flow and consistent don= strong base drum at 00:05:215 (19,20) -

! 00:10:404 (1) - / 00:15:593 - The concept of development of Oni pattern in this section is weak. It should be packed with 1/2 patterns with some 1/4 patterns wisely scattered in the highlight parts. For example,

> 00:14:782 - changing to k to enrich the flavours of 00:14:944 - / 00:15:269 - . The former has higher pitch so its companiment should be a kat, while 00:15:107 - is a don.

> 00:19:647 - d k kdk ddkkddk seems funnier to show a strong colour variation comparing with Muzukashii's part.

! 00:31:161 - You can hear that there is a richer instrumental layer at this section comparing with 00:20:782 - . 00:31:161 - should have denser notes and more complicated patterns. A density spread within the difficulty should also be displayed well.

You may take the following patterns as examples of how to increase the note density to show the relative tension of music:

00:31:161 (1) -

00:33:431 (14) -

! Feel the density differences between my suggestion and your current notes; my suggestion in Oni with Muzukashii's; and your current notes with Muzukashii's. Try to find a balance in between 3 aspects. Fix 00:36:350 - on your own.

> 00:40:728 - same in Muzukashii, it falls on 00:40:782 -

> 00:53:377 - / 00:54:674 - you can a don and kat respectively to make the pattern less dull.

! 01:02:134 - / 01:23:053 - You have to fix them on your own based on your preferences in reviewing my mods above. I will leave these two major parts for you. Big fixes or even re-map are required. Only moderating with the above clear-stated suggestion can already boost the combo to 446, my expectation is not just out of imagination.

[]

Taiko set is not ready now. It needs another cycle of modding process after huge fixes. [b]"!" all fixed, and most of your suggestion also added, i'll ask another pipol for metadata

Oni

muzu

Serizawa Haruki

1,658 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Serizawa Haruki 2018-01-20T13:41:48+00:00

Skylish wrote:
The priority of choosing metadata:

Official website of release of album and its company if possible and available >

Singers/Artists' personal websites open sources (like niconico) >

Youtube official trailer or release >

Reliable Wiki page (Wiki itself is not reliable though, it should not be counted as a metadata source in any circumstances unless there's no other hints)

i.e. Honeywork and Gero's official pages are the most reliable sources.

IF it is a 'Singer ft. Composer' type, it should be like: lapix - Live Nor Die ft. Kanae Asaba = Composer/Remixer - Title ft. Singer http://megarex.jp/mrx-011.html

Everything should be stated very clearly in the official websites, if not, judge it with common sense and follow general metadata procedure.

I know but I feel like the official websites are not very clear, that's why I took the information from niconico. And it's not always Composer - Title ft. Singer, for example: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/543660

Btw, when you guys reply to mods, please go back to your latest mod reply to make sure you didn't miss any.
Poii, I think you overlooked Franklin_DeJavu's mod
Space, you didn't reply to tutuhaha's mod

Sorry for being annoying but all mods need to be at least considered for a map to get ranked

Poii

1,438 posts

Joined February 2016

Poii 2018-01-20T13:50:27+00:00

oohh my bad, its on page 12, i didnt see it, will check it tmr, im very busy this week

maybe add gumi and vocaloid ? bcs honeyworks also upload vocaloid version of that song on the same time on their channel

Spayyce

693 posts

Joined December 2013

Spayyce 2018-01-20T23:33:57+00:00

tutuhaha wrote:
[Space's Insane]
00:09:431 (x) - rhythm little emphasis on here, would result in overlap in comparison to how I have mapped it

00:59:053 (4) - ctrl+g plays much nicer, thank you for pointing this out
00:59:701 (1) - and then ctrl+g this too yep c:
01:17:863 (1) - ........The hitsound begin right here become the really werid feeling.......... sounds worse on the red tick imo

GOOD xD! Love this song, fighting！！！

Thank you for the mod!

aa

osu file format v14

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Title:Jakusha no Sengen
TitleUnicode:弱者の宣言
Artist:HoneyWorks feat. Gero
ArtistUnicode:HoneyWorks feat. Gero
Creator:J a c k
Version:Space's Insane
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Tags:EGOIST Irohas MugiwaraSekai Kyle_Y Elcheer -Space- Faputa Poii
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Kyle Y

1,204 posts

Joined November 2013

Kyle Y 2018-01-22T09:28:10+00:00

Skylish wrote:
The priority of choosing metadata:

Official website of release of album and its company if possible and available >

Singers/Artists' personal websites open sources (like niconico) >

Youtube official trailer or release >

Reliable Wiki page (Wiki itself is not reliable though, it should not be counted as a metadata source in any circumstances unless there's no other hints)

i.e. Honeywork and Gero's official pages are the most reliable sources.

IF it is a 'Singer ft. Composer' type, it should be like: lapix - Live Nor Die ft. Kanae Asaba = Composer/Remixer - Title ft. Singer http://megarex.jp/mrx-011.html

Everything should be stated very clearly in the official websites, if not, judge it with common sense and follow general metadata procedure.

This is one of the question in BN application - -
and I answered it wrongly

Poii

1,438 posts

Joined February 2016

Poii 2018-01-23T08:04:09+00:00

Franklin_DeJavu wrote:
Hi~
From My Queue

Taiko Modding :

[Poii's Muzukashii]
00:13:647 (45) - Mungkin pindah ke 00:13:485 - ? sedikit variasi mungkin gk apa. Cocok juga sih nadanya buat follow drumnya, bagusan 4plet
00:18:836 (68) - kalau setuju dengan yg diatas, ini juga sama dah disampein di mod sesudah dirimu

00:31:161 (119) - Finisher? ada cymbal sound here
00:45:917 (167) - d? emphasize dengan 00:46:242 (168,169) - vocal sake

01:26:296 (326) - kalau yg tadi setuju dengan yg diatas, ini disamain. Ntar note yg selanjut nya juga

[Poii's Oni]
00:26:458 (119) - d? ngikutin vocal sih. Untuk Muzu gk usah dirubah karna cocok dengan k
Oni udh sip, tinggal menyamai dengan perubahan Muzu^ (kalau setuju dengan mod nya xD) biar konsisten sama muzu keep kat

The map looking good.
Go ranked

no change, other part already mentioned in another ppl mod thanks

Axer

434 posts

Joined October 2015

Axer 2018-01-23T21:10:27+00:00

from my Q

Poii's Oni

00:51:188 - there's a sound here, make this pattern ddk
01:32:944 - there's also a sound here, would suggest placing a don there

Poii's Muzukashii

01:15:107 (279) - make this finisher so it stays consistent with the previous finisher placement
01:20:296 (303,309) - ^

diffs are pretty decent imo!!
Good luck ><!!!

Nikakis

769 posts

Joined May 2014

Nikakis 2018-01-26T01:00:45+00:00

~Hello J a c k , from my modding queue!

General

Looks good!

Easy:

My main concern on this difficulty is that you skipped a lot of important vocals in Kiai and the rhythm ends up really boring with no rhythm density at all.I'm talking about these 01:03:431 - , 01:06:025 - , 01:13:809 - , 01:16:404 - .Since you map this vocal sound 01:02:134 (1) - , then you should definitely continue mapping these red ticks with 1/1 sliders 01:03:431 - .3/2 sliders are too long sliders and don't really fit in this part of the song.
00:44:782 (1,2) - : These look quite weird visually, they don't really have some type of chemistry speaking of flow.You could try making 00:44:782 (1) - circular and blanket it under 00:45:755 (2) - , like that https://puu.sh/z9H4o/2542666f6e.png .

Iroha's Normal:

Looks good!

Ky's Hard:

00:33:917 - : Random clap?

Insane:

00:10:404 (1,2,3) - , 00:12:998 (1,2,3) - , 00:15:593 (1,2,3) - , 00:18:188 (1,2,3) - : Please be consistent with spacings, sometimes you space (2) more than (3) or the opposite.Actually, you should space these sounds like this 00:15:593 (1,2,3) - because (3) is too weak based in sound or just space them all equally like you do in Desperation difficulty.
01:32:296 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - : In my opinion, that's overmapping, this part of the song contains only guitar melody, not any intense drum beats in order to map circles like that.Sliders would fit better.

Elcheer's Insane:

00:10:404 (1,2,3) - , 00:12:998 (1,2,3) - , 00:15:593 (1,2,3) - , 00:18:188 (1,2,3) - : Same like above, be consistent with the spacings.Make them all the same or space them equally.Visual spacing is ok in general, but stuff like that 00:15:593 (1,2) - is too much in my opinion.
00:27:593 (2,3) - : lol, the vocals are going totally wild here and you make this tiny spacing between them which they feel really underemphasized in my opinion.I recommend to use x:433 & y:130 for (2) and x:491 & y:238 for (3).

Space's Insane:

Looks good!

Fapu's Extra:

00:23:053 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - : This is extremely hard to play, I would highly recommend to rework the flow.This part of the song doesn't deserve such a complicated flow like this.

Desperation:

Looks good!

That's it I think, such a cute set & song.Good luck!~

Poii

1,438 posts

Joined February 2016

Poii 2018-01-26T06:35:13+00:00

Axer wrote:
from my Q

Poii's Oni
00:51:188 - there's a sound here, make this pattern ddk
01:32:944 - there's also a sound here, would suggest placing a don there

Poii's Muzukashii
01:15:107 (279) - make this finisher so it stays consistent with the previous finisher placement
01:20:296 (303,309) - ^ i dont use any finisher in this point in both diff

diffs are pretty decent imo!!
Good luck ><!!!

Oni

_Epreus

660 posts

Joined October 2015

_Epreus 2018-01-26T13:21:48+00:00

ky's hard

00:33:755 (1) - I think youd rather delete hitclap on sliderend

00:44:782 (2,3) - i guess here is following instrument but 00:45:755 (1,2,3) - here is following vocal.. alternative following isnt that suitable for hard diff since it can make player to miss

01:24:188 (1,2,3,4) - here is same with 00:11:539 (1,2,3,4) - but has different pattern.

01:30:188 (3,4) - ^

insane

00:52:566 (4) - stack sliderend to 00:51:431 (3) - here?

fapu's extra

00:04:242 (2,3,4,5,6) - I dont get why you used stream pattern here.. here doesnt have drum spam sound or another instrumental or vocal..

00:05:215 (1) - I think this can get more distance since here has strong sound and should be emphasized

00:09:107 (5) - can you nc this for drum's end?

00:12:350 (3) - I think you could stack this to 00:11:377 (5) - here

00:29:863 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - can you make them at least low spaced triangles or etc? here has difference of instrument's tone so..

00:40:890 (6) - nc for 1/3 sliders?

01:17:539 (6,1) - arent they so close? can you give them more distance by doing ctrl g or etc?

desperation

00:03:755 (4,1) - I think here should be longer distance to emphasize piano sound. can you try to change like stacking 00:03:755 (4,1) - this to 00:04:566 (3) - its sliderend or something else?

00:06:836 (3,4,5) - try to make this pattern same with previous one. If you wanna keep please consider making same slider's route from here and 00:05:539 (3,4,5) here since both they have different route.

00:06:674 (2,3) - distance here is 1.74 but distance 00:05:377 (2,3) - here is 2.33 even though I think thats repeat of this part.

00:20:782 (1) - I feel like notes from here ~ 00:40:566 (3) - are crowded too much on right side..

00:54:512 (1,2,3,4) - how about ctrl g here? I think it has more smooth flow.

01:17:377 (4,5,6) - can you make them not to be in same spot? each of them has piano sound on it and it deserves to get these notes aparted
01:20:944 (3) - this isnt stacked perfectly to 01:20:134 (5) - here. is it on purpose?

01:22:890 (8,1) - seems like here is too close. 01:23:053 (1) - here is start of guitar so it deserved to get more larger distance.

its short because I cant find more problem. its a cool map good luck!

Serizawa Haruki

1,658 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Serizawa Haruki 2018-01-26T14:56:19+00:00

Nikakis wrote:
~Hello J a c k , from my modding queue!

Easy:
My main concern on this difficulty is that you skipped a lot of important vocals in Kiai and the rhythm ends up really boring with no rhythm density at all.I'm talking about these 01:03:431 - , 01:06:025 - , 01:13:809 - , 01:16:404 - .Since you map this vocal sound 01:02:134 (1) - , then you should definitely continue mapping these red ticks with 1/1 sliders 01:03:431 - .3/2 sliders are too long sliders and don't really fit in this part of the song. It's not really possible to map all important sounds in an Easy diff because I would have to use 1/2 rhythm which should be avoided as much as possible
00:44:782 (1,2) - : These look quite weird visually, they don't really have some type of chemistry speaking of flow.You could try making 00:44:782 (1) - circular and blanket it under 00:45:755 (2) - , like that https://puu.sh/z9H4o/2542666f6e.png . Can't really do much here because of distance snap
Insane:
00:10:404 (1,2,3) - , 00:12:998 (1,2,3) - , 00:15:593 (1,2,3) - , 00:18:188 (1,2,3) - : Please be consistent with spacings, sometimes you space (2) more than (3) or the opposite.Actually, you should space these sounds like this 00:15:593 (1,2,3) - because (3) is too weak based in sound or just space them all equally like you do in Desperation difficulty. You can't really compare two diffs that are completely different difficulty-wise. While I try to keep the distance more or less equal, I mainly focus on flow and aesthetics in my patterns so yeah
01:32:296 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - : In my opinion, that's overmapping, this part of the song contains only guitar melody, not any intense drum beats in order to map circles like that.Sliders would fit better. You can clearly hear that the guitar sounds are a lot stronger than elsewhere in the map so it's justified imo

That's it I think, such a cute set & song.Good luck!~

Thank you :3

_Epreus wrote:
insane
00:52:566 (4) - stack sliderend to 00:51:431 (3) - here? Yeah but it's not noticeable while playing and it would require me to change the whole pattern ._.

desperation
00:03:755 (4,1) - I think here should be longer distance to emphasize piano sound. can you try to change like stacking 00:03:755 (4,1) - this to 00:04:566 (3) - its sliderend or something else? The distance is the same as on the other notes that have piano sounds

00:06:836 (3,4,5) - try to make this pattern same with previous one. If you wanna keep please consider making same slider's route from here and 00:05:539 (3,4,5) here since both they have different route. I think it's fine honestly

00:06:674 (2,3) - distance here is 1.74 but distance 00:05:377 (2,3) - here is 2.33 even though I think thats repeat of this part. This is due to some changes I had to make regarding flow and overlaps, the difference is actually not very big

00:20:782 (1) - I feel like notes from here ~ 00:40:566 (3) - are crowded too much on right side.. Doesn't matter imo

00:54:512 (1,2,3,4) - how about ctrl g here? I think it has more smooth flow. I don't like it, the flow would be completely broken right before the jump pattern

01:17:377 (4,5,6) - can you make them not to be in same spot? each of them has piano sound on it and it deserves to get these notes aparted No that would be weird
01:20:944 (3) - this isnt stacked perfectly to 01:20:134 (5) - here. is it on purpose? Fixed

01:22:890 (8,1) - seems like here is too close. 01:23:053 (1) - here is start of guitar so it deserved to get more larger distance. Fixed

its short because I cant find more problem. its a cool map good luck!

Thanks!

Elcheer

419 posts

Joined May 2014

Elcheer 2018-01-27T20:05:03+00:00

Nikakis wrote:
Elcheer's Insane:
00:10:404 (1,2,3) - , 00:12:998 (1,2,3) - , 00:15:593 (1,2,3) - , 00:18:188 (1,2,3) - : Same like above, be consistent with the spacings.Make them all the same or space them equally.Visual spacing is ok in general, but stuff like that 00:15:593 (1,2) - is too much in my opinion.
00:27:593 (2,3) - : lol, the vocals are going totally wild here and you make this tiny spacing between them which they feel really underemphasized in my opinion.I recommend to use x:433 & y:130 for (2) and x:491 & y:238 for (3).

fixed both, thanks!

kono power wa!

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Version:Elcheer's Insane
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Tags:EGOIST Irohas MugiwaraSekai Kyle_Y Elcheer -Space- Faputa Poii
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Tyistiana

osu! Alumni

541 posts

Joined February 2012

Tyistiana 2018-01-28T06:08:02+00:00

Hi~
from my queue =w=

[

Poii's Muzukashii]
00:07:485 (20,21,22) - How about dkD to match the Oni difficulty, and it would follow the vocal better imo.
00:17:701 - How about move to 00:18:350 to follow the noticeable guitar sound? (00:18:836 - moves to 00:18:674 - as well)

[

Poii's Oni]
Might raise OD to 5.5 or 6 to make a difference to Muzukashii difficulty.
00:23:863 (120,121) - Might Ctrl+G to make a invert gimmick from 00:23:053 (116,117,118)
00:26:620 - d might emphasize the vocal here better imo.

Good luck!~

Poii

1,438 posts

Joined February 2016

Poii 2018-01-28T07:28:14+00:00

Tyistiana wrote:
Hi~
from my queue =w=

[ Poii's Muzukashii]
00:07:485 (20,21,22) - How about dkD to match the Oni difficulty, and it would follow the vocal better imo.
00:17:701 - How about move to 00:18:350 to follow the noticeable guitar sound? (00:18:836 - moves to 00:18:674 - as well) 00:15:755 - consistency with this

[ Poii's Oni]
Might raise OD to 5.5 or 6 to make a difference to Muzukashii difficulty.
00:23:863 (120,121) - Might Ctrl+G to make a invert gimmick from 00:23:053 (116,117,118) [b]doesnt go well with the vocal[/b]
00:26:620 - d might emphasize the vocal here better imo. 00:26:458 (130,131) - and 00:26:944 (132,133) - have same vocal

Good luck!~

ty tyis

Muzukashii

JACK can you change my OD in Oni to 6 ? thanks :3, just the OD

Cloudchaser

2,327 posts

Joined May 2012

Cloudchaser 2018-01-29T19:46:25+00:00

Ciao. From modding queue
General

Personally, I don't think using your current soft-hitnormal fits in the song, It's very annoying to play and hear. You should use that one when the drum has more prominence than the guitar, but it's not in this case. I'd use something softer and not too rough, or just use the default one.

Desperation

00:32:458 (1) - This part feels weak compared to the other patterns, since you're using jumps every new combo color I would expect a jump in this place like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10131910 Same goes for 00:36:350 (1) - , 00:37:647 (1) - (Emphasize the finish hitsound!)
00:41:539 (1) - When you use low SV in a song with intense patterns as your Extra, I recommend you to place the first note, in this case (1), a bit different than 00:40:890 (1,2) -.Why do I say this? It's because you started to map more "passive" after using a lot of jumps, so the best way to apprise the player of change of rhythm, is using a proper DS for every SV change you do. Try this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10131988 or this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10131994
00:42:836 - There's nothing here that you could emphasize with NCs here, so remove it. Same goes for 00:45:593 (1) - 00:48:188 (1) - .
00:50:782 (5) - NC combo here and add NC here 00:51:269 (1) - It should work better with the guitars
01:17:215 (3) - This jump isn't nice since there is not any strong vocal, guitar or instrument that can fulfill that note. I would decrease the distance and increase it in the next triplet 01:17:377 (4,5,6) - right to 01:17:701 (1) - . Take a look to my idea https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10132053
01:18:188 (2) - ^ Same explanation as above, try moving it grids above like x100 y256
01:20:782 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - This doesn't look well in my opinion. I mean, the idea is perfect but it's not well executed. The trick of many mappers for star jumps is to use the polygon tool (ctrl+shift+D) and make the shape you're looking for. Then, move partially the notes you want to emphasize more the drum, and decrease the DS to the low ones. It would work much better instead of using a huge and random ds suddenly. It should look like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10132092 it is not needed to look exactly like this, but it's an example of a clean shape with soft angles.

Fapu's Extra

01:00:998 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - I'd make this pattern of NCs https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10132178 When I was playing, I really messed up with that part. With this change, it's more legible imo.
01:02:620 (2,3,4,5,6) - These jumps are really forced. The strong notes starts just in 01:03:107 (5,6) - so, there should be the jumps, not before.
01:17:377 (4,5,6,1) - For consistency, you should increase the DS between these notes so it doesn't break the flow.

The kiai is really overdone with jumps, I don't really justify it for the intensity of the song. In general, your patterns are pretty well made, aesthetically, and rhythmically too! I would just nerf the kiai.

Space's Insane

00:10:890 (3,4) - I don't have to explain too much in this one. Use ctrl+G in these two notes. The slider goes better with the guitar sound.
00:11:539 (5,1) - The strong note is the red tick, not the white one. So, you should invert that pattern plus the finish hitsound. You did it here as well 00:14:134 (1) -
00:14:620 (2,3,4,5,1) - Personally, this bothered me a bit since you're using 1/1 notes when you could map more the drum either the guitar, and it feels inconsistent with the same DS .
01:17:458 (4,5,6,7,8) - this stream is overmapping. I heard with 25% of playback rate and I can only hear a triplet until 01:17:539 - , the rest is 1/2. So you must change.

3 diffs as I promised.

higher difficulties need more polishment, but it's nothing with hard work you cannot fix!
Any question, don't hesitate in asking. Good luck!!!!!

Spayyce

693 posts

Joined December 2013

Spayyce 2018-01-30T16:23:58+00:00

Cloudchaser wrote:
Space's Insane
00:10:890 (3,4) - I don't have to explain too much in this one. Use ctrl+G in these two notes. The slider goes better with the guitar sound. Changed
00:11:539 (5,1) - The strong note is the red tick, not the white one. So, you should invert that pattern plus the finish hitsound. You did it here as well 00:14:134 (1) - Also changed
00:14:620 (2,3,4,5,1) - Personally, this bothered me a bit since you're using 1/1 notes when you could map more the drum either the guitar, and it feels inconsistent with the same DS . Mentioned in previous mods why I am keeping this.
01:17:458 (4,5,6,7,8) - this stream is overmapping. I heard with 25% of playback rate and I can only hear a triplet until 01:17:539 - , the rest is 1/2. So you must change. Changed.

3 diffs as I promised.

higher difficulties need more polishment, but it's nothing with hard work you cannot fix!
Any question, don't hesitate in asking. Good luck!!!!!

Thank you for mod

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Serizawa Haruki

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Serizawa Haruki 2018-02-01T18:02:50+00:00

Cloudchaser wrote:
Ciao. From modding queue
General
Personally, I don't think using your current soft-hitnormal fits in the song, It's very annoying to play and hear. You should use that one when the drum has more prominence than the guitar, but it's not in this case. I'd use something softer and not too rough, or just use the default one. Idk I think it's not that bad?
Desperation
00:32:458 (1) - This part feels weak compared to the other patterns, since you're using jumps every new combo color I would expect a jump in this place like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10131910 Same goes for 00:36:350 (1) - , 00:37:647 (1) - (Emphasize the finish hitsound!) I kinda prefer having consistent spacing in this section
00:41:539 (1) - When you use low SV in a song with intense patterns as your Extra, I recommend you to place the first note, in this case (1), a bit different than 00:40:890 (1,2) -.Why do I say this? It's because you started to map more "passive" after using a lot of jumps, so the best way to apprise the player of change of rhythm, is using a proper DS for every SV change you do. Try this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10131988 or this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10131994 Nah, there's no need to make a jump here. I think it's better if I keep it this way because they are close timing-wise
00:42:836 - There's nothing here that you could emphasize with NCs here, so remove it. Same goes for 00:45:593 (1) - 00:48:188 (1) - . I don't use NC for emphasis but rather for consistency (every 4 beats)
00:50:782 (5) - NC combo here and add NC here 00:51:269 (1) - It should work better with the guitars ^
01:17:215 (3) - This jump isn't nice since there is not any strong vocal, guitar or instrument that can fulfill that note. I would decrease the distance and increase it in the next triplet 01:17:377 (4,5,6) - right to 01:17:701 (1) - . Take a look to my idea https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10132053 There is a drum actually and I think that the triple is emphasized perfectly this way
01:18:188 (2) - ^ Same explanation as above, try moving it grids above like x100 y256 Uhm this is a snare and the spacing is not even big
01:20:782 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - This doesn't look well in my opinion. I mean, the idea is perfect but it's not well executed. The trick of many mappers for star jumps is to use the polygon tool (ctrl+shift+D) and make the shape you're looking for. Then, move partially the notes you want to emphasize more the drum, and decrease the DS to the low ones. It would work much better instead of using a huge and random ds suddenly. It should look like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10132092 it is not needed to look exactly like this, but it's an example of a clean shape with soft angles. This is not even supposed to be a star. It's not random either, just a vary basic jump pattern with high DS. I'm aware of the fact that the polygon tool should be used but it was not my intention
3 diffs as I promised.

higher difficulties need more polishment, but it's nothing with hard work you cannot fix!
Any question, don't hesitate in asking. Good luck!!!!!

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