HoneyWorks feat. Gero - Jakusha no Sengen [Osu|Taiko]

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Serizawa Haruki

siwu320 wrote:

Hi, from my queue~

If I didn't mention some diff(s), then this means everything is fine for me.

  1. "Normal" diff missing in the spread? Or there is a gd WIP or something? Yeah Normal GD is still WIP, hopefully not for long anymore
  1. 01:25:644 (1,2,3,4) - This part is almost the same with 01:08:131 (3,4,5,1), maybe change a different style would be more interesting. No other problems found In my opinion this pattern is good for consistency
GL~
Thanks for the mod :)
Topic Starter
Serizawa Haruki

Elcheer wrote:

any map that used copied hitsounds from top diff
01:08:455 (5) - hitclap

don't give kds thx
Thanks for pointing it out, I actually found even more hitsound inconsistencies in my diffs and I fixed them. I don't know about the other diffs though because they have different rhythm and hitsounding so everyone should check their own diff please
Faputa

siwu320 wrote:

Hi, from my queue~

  1. 00:24:022 (4,5) - This overlap looks a bit confusing;
  2. 00:29:860 (1,2,3) - Makes them spaced looks better;
  3. 00:30:347 (4,5,6) - ^
All fixed. I mean, I tried?
GL~
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Elcheer

siwu320 wrote:

  1. 00:09:752 (1) - Same shape with 00:13:482 (4) and 00:19:320 (1) in a short period, using different shape could be better; fixed
  2. 00:19:806 (2,3,4) - Check ds here; unsure what you mean by this
  3. 00:41:212 (2) - Seems a bit crowded.. i can't really do anything without making it look worse or changing entire patterns

Taeyang's style I guess? :)
thanks!


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CrystilonZ
I love your song choice <3

[Gen]
  1. That hitnormal is ewww orz. Hitsound is pretty sub-par overall unfortunately
  2. Easy -- Hard gap is really huge relatively


[Easy]
  1. I like this diff
  2. AR 4? imo with ar3 there are too many stuff on the screen at once
  3. 00:41:212 (6,1,2) - aesthetic nitpick. Make the head, the tail and the circle form a triangle.
  4. 00:12:347 (4,5) - 00:17:536 (4,5) - replace these two with sliders to differentiate them from 00:14:941 (4,5) - 00:20:131 (4,5) - which are stronger cuz of the drums
  5. 01:10:725 (3) - aesthetic nitpick. Can you make 01:10:239 (2,3,1) - symmetrical
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[Ky's]
  1. imo ar 7.3 or 7.5 is better. The song is pretty fast and your pattern has a lot of partially overlaps. Higher approach rate will reduce the number of notes on screen and will improve the readability of the diff.
  2. why is the hitsounding in this diff so messed up lol. Random official soft hitnormal here and there. Snares toms and kicks are all over the place lol.
  3. 00:03:914 (1,2) - 00:24:671 (1,2) - Extend the sliders and delete the circles maybe? To differentiate to slower parts from the more lively parts
  4. 00:09:752 (2) - not really sure about this being in a hard diff, but it fits so /shrug
  5. 00:05:212 (1,2) - 00:06:509 (1,2) - imo (1)s should have that small spacing increase as well. (1)s are even slightly stronger you know ._. Another choice would be using normal DS. Parts after this (except the kiais) have no jumps lol.
  6. 00:46:725 (1,2,3,4) - uhh overlaps. Check this whole slow part for unintended overlapping.
  7. 00:56:779 (1) - this reverse slider is a bit of a letdown lol. I mean you are clearly following the drums here (the 1/2 spams) and this is the build up for the chorus that comes afterwards. LIVE UP TO THE HYPE
  8. 01:07:806 (2,5) - 01:08:131 (3,1) - aesthetic nitpick. Can you make the stacks here look.. uhm.. similar? look much better imo


[Insane]
  1. 00:05:212 (1,2) - 00:06:509 (1,2) - these jumps feel nice but they don't rly make sense comparing to other places in the diff. They're the biggest jumps i think. They shouldn't be in this slow intro orz nerf them a bit
  2. fyi your 1/4 kickslider jumps are a huuuuuuuge spike if you consider the movement speed required. Idk if you want that.
  3. 00:08:779 (5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - maybe it's just me but imo the spacing is really confusing here. 00:08:779 (5,6) - really fast moving here and after that 00:09:104 (1,2) - this is a sharp drop which kinda makes sense. The problem is it accelerates back at 00:10:077 (4) - and then decelerate at 00:10:401 (1) - . Because the acceleration/deceleration here are not justified by the music the movement is pretty weird. just move 00:10:077 (4) - closer to 00:09:752 (3) - . That should help
  4. 00:25:968 (1) - use 1.8 or 2.0 DS on this one. Fits better with the music. acceleration at 00:26:293 (2) - comes a bit too late imo
  5. 00:29:536 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - yea this part is suitable for jumps but imo because you stack them so much and there is no clear pattern for players to stick to this might be bad. don't stack them or come up with a good pattern o/
  6. 00:31:158 (1,2,3,4,5) - this rhythm is repeated over and over in this part. This might be because you stick to percussions alone. Imo if you also consider other stuff (vocals, guitars, etc.) the rhythm won't be so mundane here.
  7. 01:00:995 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This looks like fireworks lmfao. Some geometry stuff might look more appealing~
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  8. 01:17:698 (1,4) - eh is this overlap intended


[Elcheer's]
  1. 00:04:563 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - spacing doesn't make sense. (1,2) should be bigger than the rest but you mapped it otherwise lol. the last two are much more stronger
  2. 00:09:752 (1,1) - aesthetic nitpick: can you make the circle not overlapping with the main body of the slider?
  3. Try to keep the variation stuff in check and do it moderately. Little variation here and there makes the map feel more fresh but too much variation and it turns into a jumping practice. It does feel weird playing highly spaced 00:32:779 (3,4,5) - and playing 00:33:752 (1,2,3,4) - afterwards. I understand that circle jumps are much easier to map comparing to jumps with sliders xd. But still it's a beatmap it needs to correlate with the music
  4. 00:10:887 (4,5) - this was the first pattern that's introduced so I expected 00:13:482 (4,5) - to have normal spacing lol, but turns out rest of them have these antijumps XD. add that to 00:10:887 (4,5) -
  5. 00:15:590 (1,2,3,4) - 00:16:725 (1) - yea the 00:16:725 (1) - should be bigger cuz the guitar is much more intense (it even has a crash on it wtf)
  6. 00:55:482 (6,1) - Don't decelerate during the build up QAQ
  7. It's weird that the verse has higher spacing compared with the chorus lol. Like 01:17:698 (1,2,3) - 01:13:806 (5) - etc I totally didn't expect these to be in the kiai.
  8. Keep your difficulty curve in check! Make the map harder when the song gets more intense. Just compare these three and you'll see why the difficulty curve is important 00:02:293 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - 01:02:779 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - 00:33:752 (1,2,3,4,1) -


That's all from me
GL~
Cloudchaser
Gonna mod this as soon as you apply Crystilonz' mod. Please PM!
Topic Starter
Serizawa Haruki

CrystilonZ wrote:

I love your song choice <3 thanks xd

[Gen]
  1. That hitnormal is ewww orz. Hitsound is pretty sub-par overall unfortunately Sounds fine imo
  2. Easy -- Hard gap is really huge relatively Normal is still in progress


[Easy]
  1. I like this diff
  2. AR 4? imo with ar3 there are too many stuff on the screen at once Almost all easy diffs use ar3, it doesn't matter if there are many objects on the screen at once since new players are not used to high ar
  3. 00:41:212 (6,1,2) - aesthetic nitpick. Make the head, the tail and the circle form a triangle. Fixed
  4. 00:12:347 (4,5) - 00:17:536 (4,5) - replace these two with sliders to differentiate them from 00:14:941 (4,5) - 00:20:131 (4,5) - which are stronger cuz of the drums Ok
  5. 01:10:725 (3) - aesthetic nitpick. Can you make 01:10:239 (2,3,1) - symmetrical Fixed
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[Insane]
  1. 00:05:212 (1,2) - 00:06:509 (1,2) - these jumps feel nice but they don't rly make sense comparing to other places in the diff. They're the biggest jumps i think. They shouldn't be in this slow intro orz nerf them a bit Ok nerfed
  2. fyi your 1/4 kickslider jumps are a huuuuuuuge spike if you consider the movement speed required. Idk if you want that. I like them lmao
  3. 00:08:779 (5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - maybe it's just me but imo the spacing is really confusing here. 00:08:779 (5,6) - really fast moving here and after that 00:09:104 (1,2) - this is a sharp drop which kinda makes sense. The problem is it accelerates back at 00:10:077 (4) - and then decelerate at 00:10:401 (1) - . Because the acceleration/deceleration here are not justified by the music the movement is pretty weird. just move 00:10:077 (4) - closer to 00:09:752 (3) - . That should help Fixed
  4. 00:25:968 (1) - use 1.8 or 2.0 DS on this one. Fits better with the music. acceleration at 00:26:293 (2) - comes a bit too late imo Fixed
  5. 00:29:536 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - yea this part is suitable for jumps but imo because you stack them so much and there is no clear pattern for players to stick to this might be bad. don't stack them or come up with a good pattern o/ It's literally impossible for me to find a good pattern here,
    I've changed it like 20 times and this is the best solution so far because otherwise there are a lot of ugly overlaps that are even more confusing
  6. 00:31:158 (1,2,3,4,5) - this rhythm is repeated over and over in this part. This might be because you stick to percussions alone. Imo if you also consider other stuff (vocals, guitars, etc.) the rhythm won't be so mundane here. If I map the vocals, it will be just like the part at 00:20:779 - and that would be repetitive too, so I think this is the best option since the drums are more important in this section
  7. 01:00:995 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This looks like fireworks lmfao. Some geometry stuff might look more appealing~ Fixed in my own way
    164,120,60995,5,8,0:0:0:0:
    304,136,61158,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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  8. 01:17:698 (1,4) - eh is this overlap intended Fixed


That's all from me
GL~
Thanks for the mod :3
Elcheer

CrystilonZ wrote:

[Elcheer's]
  1. 00:04:563 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - spacing doesn't make sense. (1,2) should be bigger than the rest but you mapped it otherwise lol. the last two are much more stronger
  2. 00:09:752 (1,1) - aesthetic nitpick: can you make the circle not overlapping with the main body of the slider?
  3. Try to keep the variation stuff in check and do it moderately. Little variation here and there makes the map feel more fresh but too much variation and it turns into a jumping practice. It does feel weird playing highly spaced 00:32:779 (3,4,5) - and playing 00:33:752 (1,2,3,4) - afterwards. I understand that circle jumps are much easier to map comparing to jumps with sliders xd. But still it's a beatmap it needs to correlate with the music
  4. 00:10:887 (4,5) - this was the first pattern that's introduced so I expected 00:13:482 (4,5) - to have normal spacing lol, but turns out rest of them have these antijumps XD. add that to 00:10:887 (4,5) -
  5. 00:15:590 (1,2,3,4) - 00:16:725 (1) - yea the 00:16:725 (1) - should be bigger cuz the guitar is much more intense (it even has a crash on it wtf)
  6. 00:55:482 (6,1) - Don't decelerate during the build up QAQ
  7. It's weird that the verse has higher spacing compared with the chorus lol. Like 01:17:698 (1,2,3) - 01:13:806 (5) - etc I totally didn't expect these to be in the kiai.
  8. Keep your difficulty curve in check! Make the map harder when the song gets more intense. Just compare these three and you'll see why the difficulty curve is important 00:02:293 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - 01:02:779 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - 00:33:752 (1,2,3,4,1) -


That's all from me
GL~
applied all to the best of my ability, thanks!

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nm from my queue

General

no problems here :)
Desperation

00:00:671 (4,5,1) - You could place more emphasis on 00:01:320 (1) - here as there is an additional piano sound also on the sliderhead, moving 00:01:158 (5) - down would be enough
Would also do the same for similar spots like 00:01:968 (3) - 00:02:617 (1) - 00:03:914 (1) - as these also all have piano sounds on them

00:08:293 (2,3,4,5,6) - These look really cramped together atm, would really space them out so they don't look that way (same for some of the blankets like 00:10:563 (2,4) - , you make all these really cramped blankets which makes the maps object placement feel more limited)

00:21:428 (4) - Could also use some more emphasis

00:52:239 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This all feels really cluttered in the centre without really any points of emphasis or anything, making them more distinct groups of sliders would fit better

00:55:806 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - these jumps could be represented better imo,
they barely change in spacing but the song only really ramps up the intensity when the drums get super loud at 00:56:455 (5) - , like 2 groups of 4 somehow would fit way better

Your sv for the entire kiai feels really low, which makes it that every slider feels like a slowdown compared to the jumps which is pretty annoying
It could have easily been something like 1.2 probably

Also in the kiai there arent really any points of emphasis everything is spaced with ds around 3-3.3 and it never really goes far above or below that
Which makes the downbeats kinda non-impactful, like multiple smaller jumps for 01:09:104 (2,3,4,5,6) - and then a big one for 01:09:914 (1) - would feel much more appropriate

01:09:104 (2,3) - Why did the rhythm change and are these 2 circles now, previously the player didn't need to jump for the sound on 01:09:266 (3) - but now he has to

01:11:212 (1) - This pattern feels pretty out of place, normally you make the spacing about equal but here you make the downbeat spacing way smaller and give it some weird flow not used previously

01:19:482 (2,3) - same here as the previous rhythm thingy, you suddenly change it which makes it feel more intense while nothing really changed

01:31:968 (1) - There is a huge finish on the tail here that is not even cliacked but you still make the other finish at 01:32:455 (2) - a huge jump, 01:31:968 (1) - would feel better as 1/2 slide rand a circle where its tail currently is

The spacing emphasis is imo the biggest thing that could be currently improved cause there isn't really anything of that atm
Topic Starter
Serizawa Haruki

Gottagof4st wrote:

nm from my queue

General

no problems here :)
Desperation

00:00:671 (4,5,1) - You could place more emphasis on 00:01:320 (1) - here as there is an additional piano sound also on the sliderhead, moving 00:01:158 (5) - down would be enough
Would also do the same for similar spots like 00:01:968 (3) - 00:02:617 (1) - 00:03:914 (1) - as these also all have piano sounds on them Changed a little

00:08:293 (2,3,4,5,6) - These look really cramped together atm, would really space them out so they don't look that way (same for some of the blankets like 00:10:563 (2,4) - , you make all these really cramped blankets which makes the maps object placement feel more limited) Spaced the 1/4 sliders out but the blankets are good imo

00:21:428 (4) - Could also use some more emphasis Not important imo

00:52:239 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This all feels really cluttered in the centre without really any points of emphasis or anything, making them more distinct groups of sliders would fit better This section is really monotonous, there's not really anything worth emphasizing

00:55:806 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - these jumps could be represented better imo,
they barely change in spacing but the song only really ramps up the intensity when the drums get super loud at 00:56:455 (5) - , like 2 groups of 4 somehow would fit way better Yup changed

Your sv for the entire kiai feels really low, which makes it that every slider feels like a slowdown compared to the jumps which is pretty annoying
It could have easily been something like 1.2 probably SV is something subjective and I don't think it's necessary too have high SV just because it's an Extra, it fits the song well imo and is not uncomfortable to play

Also in the kiai there arent really any points of emphasis everything is spaced with ds around 3-3.3 and it never really goes far above or below that
Which makes the downbeats kinda non-impactful, like multiple smaller jumps for 01:09:104 (2,3,4,5,6) - and then a big one for 01:09:914 (1) - would feel much more appropriate Fixed but now it looks ugly and the star rating dropped to 5.32* which is not possible since this is the top diff and there's another extra, that's why I'm gonna increase the jumps lmao

01:09:104 (2,3) - Why did the rhythm change and are these 2 circles now, previously the player didn't need to jump for the sound on 01:09:266 (3) - but now he has to Fixed, this was mainly to increase the star rating

01:11:212 (1) - This pattern feels pretty out of place, normally you make the spacing about equal but here you make the downbeat spacing way smaller and give it some weird flow not used previously This wasn't my idea but now I made it "normal" again

01:19:482 (2,3) - same here as the previous rhythm thingy, you suddenly change it which makes it feel more intense while nothing really changed Fixed

01:31:968 (1) - There is a huge finish on the tail here that is not even cliacked but you still make the other finish at 01:32:455 (2) - a huge jump, 01:31:968 (1) - would feel better as 1/2 slide rand a circle where its tail currently is Ok

The spacing emphasis is imo the biggest thing that could be currently improved cause there isn't really anything of that atm
Frontlines
when i played the diffs they looked really very great and reflective of the song

easy:
00:01:644 - 00:02:941 those sliders should be the same if you follow the vocals here
on a lot of places the sliders are a different shape for the same sound and
slider shapes are one of the very small amount of ways to make easies reflect
the song
00:40:239 - make it a normal 1/1 slider
00:37:968 (3) - could use a red anchor cause that seems important
u can use red anchors in kiai aswell

eh no normal?

hard:
00:09:752 (2) - maybe use a weird shape to signal the sv is changing also NC
00:41:293 - http://prntscr.com/hsvngr for a neater organization also the sliders appear to be unsnapped
again could use red anchors on kiai for sliders but overall very good

insane:
00:08:374 - http://prntscr.com/hsvoq5 again just visual organization
00:55:806 - if those jumps were more spaced it would make more sense in the context of the map/song
again, really good

elcheers insane:
00:05:212 - if you want to emphasize to using spacing emphasis should work quite well
lol thats the only thing in this diff for me

spaces insane:
00:06:347 - i had to point this one out cause i love jow he uses uncomfortable flow to emphasze the sound
jumped to. BUT it doesnt make sense in the context of the map really
00:20:455 - change the spacing of the stream because before that 1/1 was signaled through the same spacing
and even tho i know you made it to make the entry of the stream more readable it would make more sense imo
01:26:010 - http://prntscr.com/htbmk1 would make more sense as it isnt jumping to an important sound yet its hard to play

fapu's extra: (great name btw and great diff aswell)
00:00:023 - ctrl+g
00:20:779 - could reduce rhythm density as this section is quite calm
its actually the only diff without reduced rhythm density at those calm sections tho

desperation:
00:27:914 - could be emphasized better same with 00:38:455

im surprised how good this map is and im hoping to see it ranked. gl
Stack

J a c k wrote:

Gottagof4st wrote:

Desperation

00:52:239 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This all feels really cluttered in the centre without really any points of emphasis or anything, making them more distinct groups of sliders would fit better This section is really monotonous, there's not really anything worth emphasizing
You could emphasize the sliders with vocals on them 00:52:563 (4,5) - /00:53:860 (3,4) - /00:55:158 (3,4) -
Faputa

Frontlines wrote:

when i played the diffs they looked really very great and reflective of the song

fapu's extra: (great name btw and great diff aswell) Glad you like the diff :D
00:00:023 - ctrl+g This is intentional to have a large spacing to (2) VS (2) to (3) and (4). And I have one also at 00:20:779 (1) - , but less obvious.
00:20:779 - could reduce rhythm density as this section is quite calm For me, I would rate this as 2nd most calm, but the most calmest one is the section starting from 00:41:536 (1) - . I wanna emphasize it so I mapped like so in 00:20:779 -
its actually the only diff without reduced rhythm density at those calm sections tho

im surprised how good this map is and im hoping to see it ranked. gl
Thank you for the mod. Although I didn't take any suggestions, but you've spent your time on modding this map. Thank you :D
Topic Starter
Serizawa Haruki

Frontlines wrote:

when i played the diffs they looked really very great and reflective of the song Thank you :3

easy:
00:01:644 - 00:02:941 those sliders should be the same if you follow the vocals here
on a lot of places the sliders are a different shape for the same sound and
slider shapes are one of the very small amount of ways to make easies reflect
the song Hmm I think aesthetics are more important than all the slider shapes being the same
00:40:239 - make it a normal 1/1 slider These drums are important imo and add a little variation so I'm keeping them
00:37:968 (3) - could use a red anchor cause that seems important
u can use red anchors in kiai aswell I want to keep the rhythm as simple as possible overall because if I make it harder, the name Easy doesn't really fit anymore, it's 1.67* already but thanks for your suggestions

eh no normal? GD is still being mapped

insane:
00:08:374 - http://prntscr.com/hsvoq5 again just visual organization Yeah they could be more spaced out but this is the pattern I use in multiple sections of the map so I think consistency is more important
00:55:806 - if those jumps were more spaced it would make more sense in the context of the map/song
again, really good The distance between the circles is increasing because the song gets more intense and spacing them out would just unnecessarily increase the star rating imo

desperation:
00:27:914 - could be emphasized better same with 00:38:455 I'm not following the vocals at all so I'll keep it this way so the distance is equal, looks better imo

im surprised how good this map is and im hoping to see it ranked. gl
Thanks again ;)

Gottagof4st wrote:

Desperation

00:52:239 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This all feels really cluttered in the centre without really any points of emphasis or anything, making them more distinct groups of sliders would fit better This section is really monotonous, there's not really anything worth emphasizing
You could emphasize the sliders with vocals on them 00:52:563 (4,5) - /00:53:860 (3,4) - /00:55:158 (3,4) -
Ok I changed the patterns and increased the distance for the sliders with vocals on them
Faputa

m3gB3g wrote:

hi !~ m4m (PM)

Fapu Extra

00:08:131 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - cool stream m8! Space make sense here and mapped well thanks
01:12:022 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - but this one looks very random. Bcs music dont have intense character to force make rising space stream. Also it plays bad. Make regular stream here pls. changed in other mods
01:22:401 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ^ 01:22:401 (1,2,3) - this..yayks Changed before while irc mod with someone
00:59:698 (1) - absolutely random spinner. I dont understand his purpose. It tells nothing. And after this spinner you didnt map drums(another diffs did). fixed in other mods Remove spinner and map drums pls. Also it would make more sense if you continued to map piano , you start it here 00:57:104 (1,2,3) - but in next piano note you add spinner 00:57:104 (1,2,3) - and missed one piano sound here 01:00:347 - . ^
That all. All diffs is actually good. GL with rank boys! :)
Sorry for not responding before, because they are all fixed in different way :o
But thanks for modding!
Ulqui
Henlo poiiboii
nm requested in my queue

[Muzukashii]

00:00:023 - finisher cuz crash or cymbal sound idk uwuwuwuwuwu
00:07:806 - finisher cuz similar with 00:09:104 - deez
and 00:10:401 - finisher cuz why not (okno the sound is pretty intense, laek 00:15:590 - deezzzzzzz)
00:25:968 - finisher cuz cymbal (but this isn't that intense so reject if u want uwu)
imo it will be better if u 00:31:077 - delete this and 00:30:995 - this. And 00:30:671 - add d here... Then 00:31:158 - finisher owo k d d k d d k to follow guitar
00:36:347 (136,137,138,139,140) - i think d d k k d is nice for this (if you really want to follow 00:36:347 - cymbal here then k d k k d uwu)
00:37:968 (144,145) - ctrl+g cuz drum?
00:41:536 - finisher...
00:46:887 - this feels better 00:47:212 - here imo
00:51:914 - finisherrrrrrrrrzzzzzzzzz
01:01:968 - k (snare) 01:02:131 - D (cymbal but kick)
01:02:941 (221,222,223,224) - d k k d would be nice to follow vocal and drum
^if u accept then 01:03:752 - k for dem high vocal
01:04:563 (228,229) - ctrl+g cuz drum
01:09:428 - change to k, so u can invert 01:08:131 (243,244,245,246,247) - this pattern(? ( dkdk d kdkd k )
01:10:563 - add d, idk why
01:12:509 - D, kick sound
01:13:320 (267,268,269,270) - d k k d, reason mentioned i think...
01:14:779 (273,274,275) - d k D cuz drum
01:15:914 (278,279,280,281) - k d d k, like 01:05:536 (232,233,234,235) - (?
01:17:374 (284,285,286) - kkk (sanres) 01:17:698 - D (kick)
01:18:509 (290,291,292,293) - d d k d feels better imo
01:19:968 (296) - k so u will not repeat d d k d^

[Oni]

check the same finisher stuff i mentioned in muzu uwu
00:08:536 - move to 00:08:860 - and change to k? for a cleaner pattern
00:14:941 - remove finisher Dx, ddK is really annoying
00:15:266 - remove finisher or 00:15:185 - delete deezzzzz

pls check same drum stuff i mentioned in muzu
(if you are going to vocalmap, then please don't avoid drum, remember drum is the priority since taiko is about drumzzzzzzzzz ewe)
Poii

Ulqui wrote:

Henlo poiiboii
nm requested in my queue

[Muzukashii]

00:00:023 - finisher cuz crash or cymbal sound idk uwuwuwuwuwu
00:07:806 - finisher cuz similar with 00:09:104 - deez
and 00:10:401 - finisher cuz why not (okno the sound is pretty intense, laek 00:15:590 - deezzzzzzz)
00:25:968 - finisher cuz cymbal (but this isn't that intense so reject if u want uwu)
imo it will be better if u 00:31:077 - delete this and 00:30:995 - this. And 00:30:671 - add d here... Then 00:31:158 - finisher owo k d d k d d k to follow guitar
00:36:347 (136,137,138,139,140) - i think d d k k d is nice for this (if you really want to follow 00:36:347 - cymbal here then k d k k d uwu)
00:37:968 (144,145) - ctrl+g cuz drum?
00:41:536 - finisher...
00:46:887 - this feels better 00:47:212 - here imo
00:51:914 - finisherrrrrrrrrzzzzzzzzz
01:01:968 - k (snare) 01:02:131 - D (cymbal but kick)
01:02:941 (221,222,223,224) - d k k d would be nice to follow vocal and drum
^if u accept then 01:03:752 - k for dem high vocal
01:04:563 (228,229) - ctrl+g cuz drum
01:09:428 - change to k, so u can invert 01:08:131 (243,244,245,246,247) - this pattern(? ( dkdk d kdkd k )
01:10:563 - add d, idk why
01:12:509 - D, kick sound
01:13:320 (267,268,269,270) - d k k d, reason mentioned i think...
01:14:779 (273,274,275) - d k D cuz drum
01:15:914 (278,279,280,281) - k d d k, like 01:05:536 (232,233,234,235) - (?
01:17:374 (284,285,286) - kkk (sanres) 01:17:698 - D (kick)
01:18:509 (290,291,292,293) - d d k d feels better imo
01:19:968 (296) - k so u will not repeat d d k d^

[Oni]

check the same finisher stuff i mentioned in muzu uwu
00:08:536 - move to 00:08:860 - and change to k? for a cleaner pattern
00:14:941 - remove finisher Dx, ddK is really annoying
00:15:266 - remove finisher or 00:15:185 - delete deezzzzz

pls check same drum stuff i mentioned in muzu
(if you are going to vocalmap, then please don't avoid drum, remember drum is the priority since taiko is about drumzzzzzzzzz ewe)
demn ulquboii rip takos =/= music box, will edit this tmr

ty ulquboii
Elcheer

Frontlines wrote:

elcheers insane:
00:05:212 - if you want to emphasize to using spacing emphasis should work quite well
lol thats the only thing in this diff for me fixed
thanks!

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261,301,83049,5,6,0:0:0:0:
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Frontlines

J a c k wrote:

Frontlines wrote:

when i played the diffs they looked really very great and reflective of the song Thank you :3

easy:
00:01:644 - 00:02:941 those sliders should be the same if you follow the vocals here
on a lot of places the sliders are a different shape for the same sound and
slider shapes are one of the very small amount of ways to make easies reflect
the song Hmm I think aesthetics are more important than all the slider shapes being the same no trust me they arent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj0SSyjtI6A but they should be the same when music is the same ... thats structure
00:40:239 - make it a normal 1/1 slider These drums are important imo and add a little variation so I'm keeping them
fine
00:37:968 (3) - could use a red anchor cause that seems important
u can use red anchors in kiai aswell I want to keep the rhythm as simple as possible overall because if I make it harder, the name Easy doesn't really fit anymore, it's 1.67* already but thanks for your suggestions i think you thought i said red tick but i meant making the sliders with a sharp curve

eh no normal? GD is still being mapped

insane:
00:08:374 - http://prntscr.com/hsvoq5 again just visual organization Yeah they could be more spaced out but this is the pattern I use in multiple sections of the map so I think consistency is more important the idea is that they just look better like that and you can change the other ones to be the same way lol
00:55:806 - if those jumps were more spaced it would make more sense in the context of the map/song
again, really good The distance between the circles is increasing because the song gets more intense and spacing them out would just unnecessarily increase the star rating imo

desperation:
00:27:914 - could be emphasized better same with 00:38:455 I'm not following the vocals at all so I'll keep it this way so the distance is equal, looks better imo

im surprised how good this map is and im hoping to see it ranked. gl
Thanks again ;)

Gottagof4st wrote:

Desperation

00:52:239 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This all feels really cluttered in the centre without really any points of emphasis or anything, making them more distinct groups of sliders would fit better This section is really monotonous, there's not really anything worth emphasizing
You could emphasize the sliders with vocals on them 00:52:563 (4,5) - /00:53:860 (3,4) - /00:55:158 (3,4) -
Ok I changed the patterns and increased the distance for the sliders with vocals on them
Topic Starter
Serizawa Haruki

Frontlines wrote:

easy:
00:01:644 - 00:02:941 those sliders should be the same if you follow the vocals here
on a lot of places the sliders are a different shape for the same sound and
slider shapes are one of the very small amount of ways to make easies reflect
the song Hmm I think aesthetics are more important than all the slider shapes being the same no trust me they arent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj0SSyjtI6A but they should be the same when music is the same ... thats structure I get your point but the fact that slider shapes should represent the song is something subjective and it's not possible to follow this concept in every map, this song has many repetitive parts and therefore I don't think it's necessary to change the slider shapes according to the sound they follow
00:40:239 - make it a normal 1/1 slider These drums are important imo and add a little variation so I'm keeping them
fine
00:37:968 (3) - could use a red anchor cause that seems important
u can use red anchors in kiai aswell I want to keep the rhythm as simple as possible overall because if I make it harder, the name Easy doesn't really fit anymore, it's 1.67* already but thanks for your suggestions i think you thought i said red tick but i meant making the sliders with a sharp curve Oh i understand now but as I said, I use slider shapes according to what fits the best aesthetically and not according to sounds

eh no normal? GD is still being mapped

insane:
00:08:374 - http://prntscr.com/hsvoq5 again just visual organization Yeah they could be more spaced out but this is the pattern I use in multiple sections of the map so I think consistency is more important the idea is that they just look better like that and you can change the other ones to be the same way lol I'm still considering whether to change this or not
00:55:806 - if those jumps were more spaced it would make more sense in the context of the map/song
again, really good The distance between the circles is increasing because the song gets more intense and spacing them out would just unnecessarily increase the star rating imo

desperation:
00:27:914 - could be emphasized better same with 00:38:455 I'm not following the vocals at all so I'll keep it this way so the distance is equal, looks better imo
Thanks for clarifying
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