HoneyWorks feat. Gero - Jakusha no Sengen [Osu|Taiko]

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Topic Starter
Serizawa Haruki

OsuDans wrote:

I'm fast.
hi hi hi!!, Here from my modding queue owo
I consider an easy difficulty with a SV at 0.80 better You may be right about that but now I mapped it this way and won't change it anymore
00:17:536 (3,2) - stack it well
01:01:320 (3) - NC for better look
01:09:752 (5,3) - stack it well x)
01:21:104 (4,6) - NC and and removethe one here 01:21:590 (1) - Jumps look much better
Fixed all
00:30:185 (3) - NC owo Fixed
I regret my little mod, but your map does not have many things that I observe strange or simply errors, I see everything very well, I only contribute suggestions because I know that anything is useful, I hope I have helped :?:?
Thanks for the mod, don't worry your suggestions were helpful ;)
Mirash
general
you don't really need your hitsounds to be 100% all the time, use something below 70(exact 70 is good) for kiai and 60 for the rest, now your circles just too loud for a normie player

offset seem like +3 ( https://i.imgur.com/HZD8hXP.png press move and ok, dont forget to +3 x))

ask https://osu.ppy.sh/u/4581039 for tags and metadata

also you need a normal diff for a good spread, 1,6 into 3 star isn't good

Desperation
00:06:671 (2,3) - current flow you have here isn't that good, after you move cursor pretty fast to aim slider (3) you need to slow down and follow its path and without changing direction it plays bad, better to avoid this as it seem to not be your intention. placing circle (2) https://i.imgur.com/xUwlLT5.png like this will work just fine!
00:11:374 (5) - distance before and after this circle are same and things loosing their highlighting, either increase spacing here or decrease same goes for 00:13:968 (5) - and alike
00:22:401 (2,3) - these objects placed too closely with 00:22:077 (1) - imo, just a bit upper will look better https://i.imgur.com/WMQTq6V.png
00:26:131 (2) - it slightly overlaps with 00:25:320 (3) - and is not a very clean now, try placing it here as it seem like your theme of the map https://i.imgur.com/OMQbamJ.png
00:35:050 (1,2,3) - uhh, too linear for not linear map, use something sharper like your entire map https://i.imgur.com/Pnn8txK.jpg
00:40:563 (3,1,2,1) - don't like how they barely overlap each other, increase distance between them a bit https://i.imgur.com/Dzrocd2.png looks better
00:46:725 (1,2,3,4,5) - oh, nice
00:55:806 (1,2,3,4,5) - why not make here a nice and neat star?
01:11:050 (5) - it takes too much pressure aiming it and music going down here, placing it like this https://i.imgur.com/IvNBgNU.png will be more easy to aim
and will create nice anti-jump on next downbeat object.
01:27:428 (3,4,5) - try placing it closer to everything else to highlight this part out of other highly spaced kiai, low spacing will work here just well https://i.imgur.com/v2GgXQu.png

Fapu's Extra
00:01:644 (2,4) - uh, don't make such overlaps, looks not that clean, you can blanket here 00:02:293 (4,1) -
00:08:212 - there is not sound on blue tick, and making it clickable isn't intuitive to play at all, also starting stream from white tick feels uncomfortable, and also clicking two times on weak beats doesn't feel good, long slider will work here https://i.imgur.com/Zfh5BHb.jpg
00:08:293 (1,2) - oh btw you can manipulate volume(lower it) on these two for nice feedback for a players :3
00:40:887 (6,7,1) - get rid of slightly overlapping, it'll look much better that way!
00:53:860 (3,4) - and all of these slightly overlapping too, make them like 4 px more from each other

Space's Insane
00:28:887 (2,3,4) - you lost hitsoudning here
00:50:617 (1) - oh missing that red tick is bad, just end your slider there.

Elcheer's Insane
00:17:374 (3,5) - avoid such overlaps, they make your map look messy https://i.imgur.com/IOhKX7Z.png
00:28:725 (2,3,4,5,6) - hitsounds are missing
your diff is too much focused on overlapping with previous object and it took that degree when it sometimes almost feels like you aren't moving on the playfield at all(from 00:35:050 (1) - to 00:38:941 (1) - is too much imo lol), it'd be much better if your objects move around more, not saying you need to remap everything as it is not what mod should look like, just consider using less of overlapping next time you map!

Insane
00:17:212 (2,4) - their overlapping look not best https://i.imgur.com/Ym9MOBd.png
Topic Starter
Serizawa Haruki

Mirash wrote:

general
you don't really need your hitsounds to be 100% all the time, use something below 70(exact 70 is good) for kiai and 60 for the rest, now your circles just too loud for a normie player Ok fixed

offset seem like +3 ( https://i.imgur.com/HZD8hXP.png press move and ok, dont forget to +3 x)) I will change the offset as soon as everyone has applied their mods

ask https://osu.ppy.sh/u/4581039 for tags and metadata Yup

also you need a normal diff for a good spread, 1,6 into 3 star isn't good Normal GD is still being mapped

Desperation
00:06:671 (2,3) - current flow you have here isn't that good, after you move cursor pretty fast to aim slider (3) you need to slow down and follow its path and without changing direction it plays bad, better to avoid this as it seem to not be your intention. placing circle (2) https://i.imgur.com/xUwlLT5.png like this will work just fine! Changed
00:11:374 (5) - distance before and after this circle are same and things loosing their highlighting, either increase spacing here or decrease same goes for 00:13:968 (5) - and alike You're right, it's better now
00:22:401 (2,3) - these objects placed too closely with 00:22:077 (1) - imo, just a bit upper will look better https://i.imgur.com/WMQTq6V.png Fixed
00:26:131 (2) - it slightly overlaps with 00:25:320 (3) - and is not a very clean now, try placing it here as it seem like your theme of the map https://i.imgur.com/OMQbamJ.png True, I moved it now
00:35:050 (1,2,3) - uhh, too linear for not linear map, use something sharper like your entire map https://i.imgur.com/Pnn8txK.jpg Alright
00:40:563 (3,1,2,1) - don't like how they barely overlap each other, increase distance between them a bit https://i.imgur.com/Dzrocd2.png looks better Fixed
00:46:725 (1,2,3,4,5) - oh, nice thx xd
00:55:806 (1,2,3,4,5) - why not make here a nice and neat star? Ok
01:11:050 (5) - it takes too much pressure aiming it and music going down here, placing it like this https://i.imgur.com/IvNBgNU.png will be more easy to aim
and will create nice anti-jump on next downbeat object. Yeah seems good
01:27:428 (3,4,5) - try placing it closer to everything else to highlight this part out of other highly spaced kiai, low spacing will work here just well https://i.imgur.com/v2GgXQu.png I would rather keep it the way it is because it's a strong sound and low spacing doesn't fit for that imo

Fapu's Extra
00:01:644 (2,4) - uh, don't make such overlaps, looks not that clean, you can blanket here 00:02:293 (4,1) -
00:08:212 - there is not sound on blue tick, and making it clickable isn't intuitive to play at all, also starting stream from white tick feels uncomfortable, and also clicking two times on weak beats doesn't feel good, long slider will work here https://i.imgur.com/Zfh5BHb.jpg
00:08:293 (1,2) - oh btw you can manipulate volume(lower it) on these two for nice feedback for a players :3
00:40:887 (6,7,1) - get rid of slightly overlapping, it'll look much better that way!
00:53:860 (3,4) - and all of these slightly overlapping too, make them like 4 px more from each other

Space's Insane
00:28:887 (2,3,4) - you lost hitsoudning here
00:50:617 (1) - oh missing that red tick is bad, just end your slider there.

Elcheer's Insane
00:17:374 (3,5) - avoid such overlaps, they make your map look messy https://i.imgur.com/IOhKX7Z.png
00:28:725 (2,3,4,5,6) - hitsounds are missing
your diff is too much focused on overlapping with previous object and it took that degree when it sometimes almost feels like you aren't moving on the playfield at all(from 00:35:050 (1) - to 00:38:941 (1) - is too much imo lol), it'd be much better if your objects move around more, not saying you need to remap everything as it is not what mod should look like, just consider using less of overlapping next time you map!

Insane
00:17:212 (2,4) - their overlapping look not best https://i.imgur.com/Ym9MOBd.png Fixed
Thanks for the mod, it was really helpful :)
Faputa

J a c k wrote:

Modding my own map lmao (also changed audio file now so make sure to update)

Fapu's Extra
  1. 00:01:158 - Why did you omit the vocals here if you mapped them in the other parts? Also at 00:03:752 - fixed
  2. 00:04:320 (3,4,5) - There's no sound here so it would be better if you removed the stream There's guitar sounds :3
  3. 00:05:941 (5,8) - You can barely hear these sounds, I don't think triples are necessary but you can leave them if you want These are to stand out with the first few seconds
  4. 00:08:212 (3) - No sound here
  5. 00:08:131 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - Make the distances between the circles equal (except for the last 4 circles maybe) and the shape of the stream could be better too. Make a slider and use the Ctrl + Shift + F function to make it prettier fixed in my own way
  6. 00:09:104 (5) - I think you should replace the slider by a circle and map the sounds the way I did in the top diff
  7. 00:14:941 (4) - Move to 00:14:779 - and move 00:14:779 (3) - to 00:14:941 - (also change their position so it fits) I would keep this as I think a slow slider after a stream sounds nice for this song
  8. 00:19:806 (2,3) - Would look better if they were vertical For flow :#
  9. 00:20:455 (4,5,6,7,1) - Again, use the "covert slider to stream" function to make it visually more appealing done
  10. 00:21:428 (4,5,4,5) - They should not overlap Actually this is a concept from the very first part of the song. I'll keep until I have solutions
  11. 00:25:401 - No sound here and the sounds at 00:25:482 - and 00:25:563 - are minimal again so it's up to you whether you map it or not
  12. 00:27:995 - The sound is not here, but instead at 00:28:158 - (also barely audible) changed sth
  13. 00:30:914 (8) - No sound here to balance with the previous bursts
  14. 00:36:914 - ^
  15. 00:40:725 (4) - ^ These two places have sounds :3..
  16. 00:40:887 (6,7,1) - Doesn't look good because they have different lengths and the angles are kinda off, I would copy 00:40:887 (6) - , paste it at 00:41:212 - , press Ctrl + G and move it, then rotate and move 00:41:536 (1) - somewhere else fixed sth
  17. 00:46:725 (1,2) - You could blanket them Doesn't feel like it is necessary
  18. 00:47:860 (1,2) - Blanket is off and the overlap between 00:47:860 (1,3) - doesn't look so good fixed
  19. 00:51:185 - Why did you omit this drum? The whole section is calm so I went for easier rhythm choices :3
  20. 00:51:914 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The distances between these is not always the same I think that doesn't matter since slider leniency is a thing
  21. 00:59:698 (1) - I think this spinner doesn't fit here, you should remove it and map the drums that start at 01:00:995 - fixed in my own way.
  22. 01:12:022 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - Use convert slider to stream, also here: 01:22:401 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - fixed
  23. 01:27:428 (3,4) - Same thing like 00:14:779 (3,4) - No change
  24. 01:32:455 (2,3) - There's only 1/2 rhythm here I thought these thing of mapping is allowed. I'll see if I have anyways to fix it
  25. Could you nerf it just a little bit more maybe? About 5.25-5-3* because 5.36* and 5.45* are so close >-< Sure, but later. I am very busy actually irl. sorry ><
  26. Nice diff otherwise
I'll just post a update here for this mod for now. I'll keep updating

15/12/17

Mirash wrote:

Fapu's Extra
00:01:644 (2,4) - uh, don't make such overlaps, looks not that clean, you can blanket here 00:02:293 (4,1) - fixed in my own way
00:08:212 - there is not sound on blue tick, and making it clickable isn't intuitive to play at all, also starting stream from white tick feels uncomfortable, and also clicking two times on weak beats doesn't feel good, long slider will work here https://i.imgur.com/Zfh5BHb.jpg Nice idea :D
00:08:293 (1,2) - oh btw you can manipulate volume(lower it) on these two for nice feedback for a players :3 Fixed
00:40:887 (6,7,1) - get rid of slightly overlapping, it'll look much better that way! fixed
00:53:860 (3,4) - and all of these slightly overlapping too, make them like 4 px more from each other fixed
update:
osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 61320
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
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Title:Jakusha no Sengen
TitleUnicode:弱者の宣言
Artist:HoneyWorks feat. Gero
ArtistUnicode:HoneyWorks feat. Gero
Creator:J a c k
Version:Fapu's Extra
Source:
Tags:Kyle_Y Elcheer -Space- Faputa Poii
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CircleSize:4.2
OverallDifficulty:8.5
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Behonkiss
From my mod queue. Thanks for your patience and M4M.

Easy:
00:04:239 (3)- This circle feels unnecessary.
00:49:968 (2,3)- The timing on the slider end and following circle feel a little off beat compared to the overall groove of the objects before it. For an Easy diff it might throw people off.

Ky's Hard:
00:04:239 (2)- This looks kind of ugly with the slight overlap. It would look better if it was directly underneath the preceding slider's end. This happens at many other points, including 00:15:266, 00:24:995, & 00:36:022.
01:09:104 (2,3,4,5)- The placement here is super confusing and awkward. Maybe it's meant to be disorienting, but that kind of stuff suits top-tier difficulties rather than a Hard.
There's also too many overlapping sliders that would look better properly blanketed to count. This is just a very messy-looking map TBH.

I didn't find much to take issue with in the Insane diff. It does a lot of unorthodox stuff spacing and placement wise but it does them consistently and aesthetically well, which are the most important aspects for me. Only recommendation I'd make is not making 01:01:320 a new combo, since no other section pulls something like it and there's no change in the music to make it less out of place.
YukiZura-
from q

[Desperation]
00:30:185 (1) - no need nc here cuz it doesnt express anything lol
00:44:131 (1,4) - blanket
01:28:725 (4) - make the red dot at the middle
00:57:104 - ~ 01:00:995 - hurm you know since this in just 1 minute map , no need to put a break ... fill the "ting" sound with single note is enough
01:23:050 (1) - hurm you should bigger the ds for good emphasis but that is just a suggestion

[ky's hard]
00:06:509 (1,2,3) - weird ... you should stack this note 00:06:671 (2) - with 00:06:509 (1) - this one cuz the strong sound of both are same
00:08:374 - got sound here .. fill with note make a stream to reverse slider
00:30:347 (3,4) - this two shound swap places beacuse 00:30:347 - here it got the 'deng' sound and 00:30:509 - 'tet' sound perfect for slider and it feel more comfortable to play
00:40:482 (2) - nah .. replace it with a note for better gameplay


that all .. hehe gudluck <3
Elcheer

Mirash wrote:

Elcheer's Insane
00:17:374 (3,5) - avoid such overlaps, they make your map look messy https://i.imgur.com/IOhKX7Z.png fixed
00:28:725 (2,3,4,5,6) - hitsounds are missing fixed
your diff is too much focused on overlapping with previous object and it took that degree when it sometimes almost feels like you aren't moving on the playfield at all(from 00:35:050 (1) - to 00:38:941 (1) - is too much imo lol), it'd be much better if your objects move around more, not saying you need to remap everything as it is not what mod should look like, just consider using less of overlapping next time you map! it'd be kinda hard to change that up for this,
but i'll definitely mind that next time i map. thanks!
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Topic Starter
Serizawa Haruki

Behonkiss wrote:

From my mod queue. Thanks for your patience and M4M.

Easy:
00:04:239 (3)- This circle feels unnecessary. I placed a circle here because I'm not mapping only the vocals
00:49:968 (2,3)- The timing on the slider end and following circle feel a little off beat compared to the overall groove of the objects before it. For an Easy diff it might throw people off. Okay fixed because someone else has also pointed it out

Ky's Hard:
00:04:239 (2)- This looks kind of ugly with the slight overlap. It would look better if it was directly underneath the preceding slider's end. This happens at many other points, including 00:15:266, 00:24:995, & 00:36:022.
01:09:104 (2,3,4,5)- The placement here is super confusing and awkward. Maybe it's meant to be disorienting, but that kind of stuff suits top-tier difficulties rather than a Hard.
There's also too many overlapping sliders that would look better properly blanketed to count. This is just a very messy-looking map TBH.

I didn't find much to take issue with in the Insane diff. It does a lot of unorthodox stuff spacing and placement wise but it does them consistently and aesthetically well, which are the most important aspects for me. Only recommendation I'd make is not making 01:01:320 a new combo, since no other section pulls something like it and there's no change in the music to make it less out of place. Fixed
Thanks for the mod ;)

YukiZura- wrote:

from q

[Desperation]
00:30:185 (1) - no need nc here cuz it doesnt express anything lol Fixed
00:44:131 (1,4) - blanket Not necessary because they are far away in time
01:28:725 (4) - make the red dot at the middle Looks fine to me
00:57:104 - ~ 01:00:995 - hurm you know since this in just 1 minute map , no need to put a break ... fill the "ting" sound with single note is enough Ok
01:23:050 (1) - hurm you should bigger the ds for good emphasis but that is just a suggestion I think it's fine

[ky's hard]
00:06:509 (1,2,3) - weird ... you should stack this note 00:06:671 (2) - with 00:06:509 (1) - this one cuz the strong sound of both are same
00:08:374 - got sound here .. fill with note make a stream to reverse slider
00:30:347 (3,4) - this two shound swap places beacuse 00:30:347 - here it got the 'deng' sound and 00:30:509 - 'tet' sound perfect for slider and it feel more comfortable to play
00:40:482 (2) - nah .. replace it with a note for better gameplay


that all .. hehe gudluck <3
Thank you :3
Affirmation
Q

[Desperation]
  1. 00:08:293 (2) - For seeing this note, this note expressed like 00:08:455 (3,4,5,6) - the others, but music is differnent, 00:08:374 - tbh this part's song is not so loud, then you don't give same intense with others in this note. you should make just triplet or delete 00:08:374 - this rhythm.
  2. 00:14:131 (1,3,4,5) - I think you intend blanket here. but blanket is not perfect, you should check and fix it for better visual.
  3. 00:25:563 - this part has quiet symbol sound, if you add a note here, rhythm could be better for expressing.
  4. 00:25:968 (1,2) - You should make it into one slider, for seeing 00:20:779 (1) - and 00:00:023 (1) - , you made it as slider, but in here, you made two circlesm it makes bad consistent of pattern and intense, you should make it consistent.
  5. 00:46:725 (1,2,3,4,5) - you didn't use this circle patterns well, then this pattern looks it has more intense than others, without any reason. you should make it into 2 sliders and 1 circle. I know you intend pentagon, but yea,,,,,, you use weird way.


GL
-Luminate
Hi! From my queue (new standard modder here so sorry If I say nonsense)
Ky's Hard
  1. 00:03:914 (1,2) - 1/4 patterns like this is not very well fit in Hard? Hard should be more easier to read imo
    (The same goes for 00:14:941 (5,6) - 00:24:671 (1,2) - 00:35:698 (3,4) - 00:40:239 (1,2) - 01:20:293 (1,2) - and the rest that is similar too)
    maybe try making them all 1/2 ?
  2. 00:20:131 (3,4) - slider formation here looks a bit weird imo, I suggest slider (3) straight like (4) and move around 436|172
  3. 00:25:482 (4,5,6) - remove (5)?
  4. 00:33:752 (1) - I don't know if your hitsounding is WIP or not but hitfinish here sounds strange
  5. 00:45:266 (3) - move a little bit out from (2)? the blanket here is too close
  6. 00:48:347 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - the note density here suddenly drops, add some 1/2 notes
  7. 01:19:482 (2,3,4,5) - I think this pattern here doesn't flow
    try something like this? and make changes the other following pattern
  8. 01:25:644 (1,2) - same here, doesn't flow much imo , maybe make it like 01:30:833 (1,2) - would do?
  9. 01:33:428 - Last one, I think the song should end here
Insane
  1. 00:08:293 (2,3,4,5,6) - make these sliders around 2.37x would be better? same goes for other similar pattern
  2. 00:40:887 (1,2) - rotating 90 clockwise and put the sliders on the same spot, then make change to 00:41:536 (1) -
Elcheer's Insane
  1. 00:26:941 (5,6) - I think a little jump suits here
  2. 00:27:590 (2) - this slider can be two circles following the vocal
  3. 00:27:914 (3,4) - On the other hand, this two circles can be merged into a slider which plays better imo
  4. 00:30:995 (8,9,1) - increase the triplets distance a little to reflect the beat more
  5. 00:38:941 (1) - hitfinish
  6. 00:41:212 (1) - remove NC
  7. 00:49:320 (1,2) - I don't think this should be a jump, otherwise it should a slider instead
  8. 01:12:022 (9) - NC, the combo here is too outstanding
  9. 01:22:401 (10) - ^
Space's Insane
  1. 00:00:671 (3,4,5) - this part shouldn't be a jump imo or else equally space them as they have the same pace
  2. 00:10:401 - 00:11:698 - the 1/2 slider should start on red tick then follow up with a circle if you want to follow the melody
    the example is on 00:15:590 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - as you follow them very well
  3. 00:23:374 (1,2,3,4) - this here too can be equally spaced following the pace of the song
  4. 00:31:077 (7,1) - this two can be a short slider diving down to follow up with 00:31:320 (2) - which flows more
  5. 00:56:131 (2,3,4) - this can be jumping circles to reflect the beat more.. but your choice here is okay, no need to change if you want
  6. 01:06:185 (1) - again, same case as 00:10:401 but now you're following the vocal which this slider isn't (01:07:320 (1) - this one follows the vocal tho so I think the other 1/2 slider should be placed like that too)
  7. 01:08:779 (1) - ^
  8. 01:11:374 (1) - ^
  9. 01:17:860 - questionable green line > the hitsounds too loud (I mean.. way too loud that it's overstanding)
  10. 01:33:428 - add a note here and fix the green line
That's all, the other diffs are just too hard for me :o I guess I can only help you with this
GL! :)
Elcheer

-Luminate wrote:

Elcheer's Insane
  1. 00:26:941 (5,6) - I think a little jump suits here fixed
  2. 00:27:590 (2) - this slider can be two circles following the vocal fixed
  3. 00:27:914 (3,4) - On the other hand, this two circles can be merged into a slider which plays better imo fixed
  4. 00:30:995 (8,9,1) - increase the triplets distance a little to reflect the beat more fixed
  5. 00:38:941 (1) - hitfinish fixed
  6. 00:41:212 (1) - remove NC fixed
  7. 00:49:320 (1,2) - I don't think this should be a jump, otherwise it should a slider instead i don't see a good enough way to fix this, nerfed the jump instead
  8. 01:12:022 (9) - NC, the combo here is too outstanding fixed
  9. 01:22:401 (10) - ^ fixed
thanks!

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William K
Hello, I saw this from someone's queue.

[Easy]
  1. 00:03:590 (2,3) - Could probably CTRL+G the rhythm here and rearrange the spacings to differenciate it being rhythmically the same as 00:00:995 (3,4,5,1) - , which is repeating themselves.
  2. 00:02:293 (5,1) - It'd be better to swap NCs here to remain consistent in NC-ing every 2 stanzas.
  3. 00:00:995 (3,4,5,1) - Just a suggestion, how about making 00:00:995 (3,4,5,1) - an obvious repeating pattern to reflect the vocals better? This, for example.
  4. 00:12:347 (4,5) - 00:17:536 (4,5) - Differenciating these from 00:14:941 (4,5) - and 00:20:131 (4,5) - would be pretty nice imo. At 00:12:347 (4,5) - the guitars are lower in pitch and one more later is higher (00:14:941 (4,5) - ). How about making 00:14:941 (4,5) - and 00:17:536 (4,5) - a 1/2 slider for that?
  5. 00:55:158 (2) - This slider should have the same rhythm as 00:53:860 (4,5) - considering they're similar in pitch.
  6. 00:57:752 (1,1) - Unnecesary NC, it results in an inconsistency and could probably confuse new players since there's no guiding line during gameplay. Same applies to 01:00:347 (1) - .
  7. 01:09:428 (4) - You can put NC here to mark that 01:09:428 (4,5,6) - and 01:07:320 (1,2,3) - is one set.
  8. 01:19:806 (4,1) - Swapping NCs here would be nice, same reasoning as above.
  9. 01:24:995 (4,5) - and 01:30:185 (4,5) - Should change these as well if you applied my suggestion before.

[Desperation]
  1. 00:00:023 (1,2,3,4) - The visual spacings don't look too appealing imo, where 00:00:023 (1,3,4) - is too crowded and 00:00:347 (2) - is left out from the group. Could probably improve the visual spacings.
  2. While this isn't really visible in gameplay, I should point this out in case it's unintentional. 00:00:347 (2,3,4) - The distance spacing here is 2.00x while 00:00:671 (4,5,1,2,3) - 's around 1.85x, and at 00:02:617 (1,2,3) - it's back to 2,00x when there isn't much change on music. This should be reconsidered.
  3. 00:01:320 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Just my personal opinion, would be cool if this's to be a repeating pattern, as I said in Easy.
  4. 00:02:455 (4,1) - The impact of emphasis here can't really be felt in gameplay since it's just a 0.10x spacing difference, might space this out. Though, to be consistent in emphasizing things, 00:01:320 (1) - and 00:03:914 (1) - should be emphasized as well.
  5. 00:05:212 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Just before, you focused mainly on vocals but here it's on guitars, assuming from 00:05:860 (4,5,4,5) - . The holding vocal at 00:05:860 - is treated the same as 00:05:536 (3,5) - which has 2 vocals in 1/2. How about changing 00:05:860 (4,4) - into 1/1 sliders to give some effect to the vocal?
  6. Emphasis should be done consistently throughout the map. For instance, you emphasized 00:14:131 (1) - by spacing it out to 3.00x while 00:13:482 (4,5) - being 2.00x. But at 00:10:077 (4,1) - there isn't any emphasis. Same applies to the others like 00:15:266 (8,1) - , 00:12:671 (5,1) - , etc. You could probably set a default spacing for normal beats, and one more for emphasis. In this case, you can nerf 00:10:401 (1,2,3) - and the others into 2.00x while leaving the beats you want to emphasize in 3.00x spacing.
  7. 00:46:725 (1,2,3,4,5) - The pattern is far more intense than the others in the section. You should nerf the spacings out, or make some of them into sliders.
  8. The slider velocity of the map is actually too slow for an Extra imo. But changing the SV would cost a remap. The non-kiai part seems fine, but you should probably buff the kiai out with 1.10x~1.20x green lines to make it appear more intense and differenciate the part from the others.
  9. You stick to the DS too much and it doesn't get you a chance to emphasize things or even variate things. For example, 00:41:536 - this part you stick to 2.00x everywhere, or 00:51:914 - you stick to 2.50x DS. You should emphasize things more.

That should be everything, I hope this helps. Good luck~
Kyle Y

Ikira wrote:

[Ky's Hard] edit english

00:04:428 (2) - stack under this 00:04:103 (1) - overlap for showing 1/4 snapped.
00:19:509 (1) - Hitsound W + E fixed
00:20:968 (1) - the same hitsounds
01:20:806 (2) - delete why should I delete
01:20:482 (1) - stretch to 01:20:806 -
01:30:374 (3) - stretch only to 01:30:536 -
01:32:968 (4) - the same stretch only to 01:33:130 - I think it is better to provide reason why you think I need to fix, otherwise, I don't know what you are thinking of.

m3gB3g wrote:

hi !~ m4m (PM)


Ky Hard
ar7 is too low for 3.29* and 185 BPM. Feels weird in nomod gameplay. Pls put ar8 ar 8 is too high for hard diff tbh, so I just remain.
00:14:941 (5,6) - i dont sure about use Blue ticks in Hard diff. You can make slider more longer and end them in white tick. it is acceptable for blue ticks, if it is suitable. I use blue tick to make the rhythm different, and players could have more fun on it.
00:24:671 (1,2) - ^
00:35:698 (3,4) - ^
01:20:293 (1,2) - ^
01:33:104 (5) - end slider here 01:33:428 - ? okay...

Behonkiss wrote:

From my mod queue. Thanks for your patience and M4M.



Ky's Hard:
00:04:239 (2)- This looks kind of ugly with the slight overlap. It would look better if it was directly underneath the preceding slider's end. This happens at many other points, including 00:15:266 - , 00:24:995 - , & 00:36:022 - . slight overlap is for showing blue ticks circle.
01:09:104 (2,3,4,5)- The placement here is super confusing and awkward. Maybe it's meant to be disorienting, but that kind of stuff suits top-tier difficulties rather than a Hard. I think it is okay, because this pattern have better appear before and still using afterward.
There's also too many overlapping sliders that would look better properly blanketed to count. This is just a very messy-looking map TBH.

YukiZura- wrote:

from q


[ky's hard]
00:06:509 (1,2,3) - weird ... you should stack this note 00:06:671 (2) - with 00:06:509 (1) - this one cuz the strong sound of both are same both are okay, stacking 2,3 is make more sense to me because the vocal makes me feel like this.
00:08:374 - got sound here .. fill with note make a stream to reverse slider I don't want to complicate the rhythm here
00:30:347 (3,4) - this two shound swap places beacuse 00:30:347 - here it got the 'deng' sound and 00:30:509 - 'tet' sound perfect for slider and it feel more comfortable to playI avoid using slider end on white, even I do not change, the rhythm still okay.
00:40:482 (2) - nah .. replace it with a note for better gameplay fixed to another pattern.


that all .. hehe gudluck <3

-Luminate wrote:

Hi! From my queue (new standard modder here so sorry If I say nonsense)
Ky's Hard
  1. 00:03:914 (1,2) - 1/4 patterns like this is not very well fit in Hard? Hard should be more easier to read imo
    (The same goes for 00:14:941 (5,6) - 00:24:671 (1,2) - 00:35:698 (3,4) - 00:40:239 (1,2) - 01:20:293 (1,2) - and the rest that is similar too)
    maybe try making them all 1/2 ? it is acceptable to use blue tick in hard.
  2. 00:20:131 (3,4) - slider formation here looks a bit weird imo, I suggest slider (3) straight like (4) and move around 436|172 fixed.
  3. 00:25:482 (4,5,6) - remove (5)? remain, there is a sound, and I think it can emphasize 00:25:644 (6) - beat.
  4. 00:33:752 (1) - I don't know if your hitsounding is WIP or not but hitfinish here sounds strange I guess still wip.
  5. 00:45:266 (3) - move a little bit out from (2)? the blanket here is too closeum... restricted by the ds.
  6. 00:48:347 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - the note density here suddenly drops, add some 1/2 notes a little break for players, and it is the end of the clam part, so i think it is acceptable.
  7. 01:19:482 (2,3,4,5) - I think this pattern here doesn't flow I think circular flow still exist, wait for further modding.
    try something like this? and make changes the other following pattern
  8. 01:25:644 (1,2) - same here, doesn't flow much imo , maybe make it like 01:30:833 (1,2) - would do? fixed
  9. 01:33:428 - Last one, I think the song should end herefixed
[/list][/notice]

PeterEU wrote:

Short NM

00:08:968 (4,1) - these are too close to each other making next object less visible fixed
00:10:590 (1) - why samples are other here? its the same as otheryou mean hit sound?
NOW CHECKING!!!

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Topic Starter
Serizawa Haruki

Neoskylove wrote:

Q

[Desperation]
  1. 00:08:293 (2) - For seeing this note, this note expressed like 00:08:455 (3,4,5,6) - the others, but music is differnent, 00:08:374 - tbh this part's song is not so loud, then you don't give same intense with others in this note. you should make just triplet or delete 00:08:374 - this rhythm. I'm aware of the fact that this note is not as strong as the others but I showed that by increasing the distance between the sliders more and more, I also put a weaker hitsound on this note so I think it's okay
  2. 00:14:131 (1,3,4,5) - I think you intend blanket here. but blanket is not perfect, you should check and fix it for better visual. The first circle of the triplet is blanketed perfectly but the other circles are not because of stacking, I'm not sure if this is the right way to blanket triples but I don't know any better option
  3. 00:25:563 - this part has quiet symbol sound, if you add a note here, rhythm could be better for expressing. This sound is not really important so I'm not mapping it, it doesn't appear anywhere else in the map so it would feel out of place
  4. 00:25:968 (1,2) - You should make it into one slider, for seeing 00:20:779 (1) - and 00:00:023 (1) - , you made it as slider, but in here, you made two circlesm it makes bad consistent of pattern and intense, you should make it consistent. Ok fixed
  5. 00:46:725 (1,2,3,4,5) - you didn't use this circle patterns well, then this pattern looks it has more intense than others, without any reason. you should make it into 2 sliders and 1 circle. I know you intend pentagon, but yea,,,,,, you use weird way. Fixed


GL
Thanks!

-Luminate wrote:

Hi! From my queue (new standard modder here so sorry If I say nonsense)
Insane
  1. 00:08:293 (2,3,4,5,6) - make these sliders around 2.37x would be better? same goes for other similar pattern
  2. 00:40:887 (1,2) - rotating 90 clockwise and put the sliders on the same spot, then make change to 00:41:536 (1) -
That's all, the other diffs are just too hard for me :o I guess I can only help you with this
GL! :)
Thank you for your suggestions but I prefer keeping it this way

William K wrote:

Hello, I saw this from someone's queue.

[Easy]
  1. 00:03:590 (2,3) - Could probably CTRL+G the rhythm here and rearrange the spacings to differenciate it being rhythmically the same as 00:00:995 (3,4,5,1) - , which is repeating themselves. I don't think it's necessary
  2. 00:02:293 (5,1) - It'd be better to swap NCs here to remain consistent in NC-ing every 2 stanzas. Ok
  3. 00:00:995 (3,4,5,1) - Just a suggestion, how about making 00:00:995 (3,4,5,1) - an obvious repeating pattern to reflect the vocals better? This, for example. Doesn't convince me too much tbh
  4. 00:12:347 (4,5) - 00:17:536 (4,5) - Differenciating these from 00:14:941 (4,5) - and 00:20:131 (4,5) - would be pretty nice imo. At 00:12:347 (4,5) - the guitars are lower in pitch and one more later is higher (00:14:941 (4,5) - ). How about making 00:14:941 (4,5) - and 00:17:536 (4,5) - a 1/2 slider for that? I'm focusing on the drums here
  5. 00:55:158 (2) - This slider should have the same rhythm as 00:53:860 (4,5) - considering they're similar in pitch. Fixed
  6. 00:57:752 (1,1) - Unnecesary NC, it results in an inconsistency and could probably confuse new players since there's no guiding line during gameplay. Same applies to 01:00:347 (1) - . Fixed
  7. 01:09:428 (4) - You can put NC here to mark that 01:09:428 (4,5,6) - and 01:07:320 (1,2,3) - is one set. Alright
  8. 01:19:806 (4,1) - Swapping NCs here would be nice, same reasoning as above. ^
  9. 01:24:995 (4,5) - and 01:30:185 (4,5) - Should change these as well if you applied my suggestion before. Same as above

[Desperation]
  1. 00:00:023 (1,2,3,4) - The visual spacings don't look too appealing imo, where 00:00:023 (1,3,4) - is too crowded and 00:00:347 (2) - is left out from the group. Could probably improve the visual spacings. Fixed
  2. While this isn't really visible in gameplay, I should point this out in case it's unintentional. 00:00:347 (2,3,4) - The distance spacing here is 2.00x while 00:00:671 (4,5,1,2,3) - 's around 1.85x, and at 00:02:617 (1,2,3) - it's back to 2,00x when there isn't much change on music. This should be reconsidered. It's now equal everywhere
  3. 00:01:320 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Just my personal opinion, would be cool if this's to be a repeating pattern, as I said in Easy. I think this repeating rhythm is emphasized enough by the sliders
  4. 00:02:455 (4,1) - The impact of emphasis here can't really be felt in gameplay since it's just a 0.10x spacing difference, might space this out. Though, to be consistent in emphasizing things, 00:01:320 (1) - and 00:03:914 (1) - should be emphasized as well. I didn't intend to emphasize anything here
  5. 00:05:212 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Just before, you focused mainly on vocals but here it's on guitars, assuming from 00:05:860 (4,5,4,5) - . The holding vocal at 00:05:860 - is treated the same as 00:05:536 (3,5) - which has 2 vocals in 1/2. How about changing 00:05:860 (4,4) - into 1/1 sliders to give some effect to the vocal? Not a bad idea but I think the current pattern fits well since this part is stronger than the beginning of the song, that's why I'm not focusing too much on the vocals here
  6. Emphasis should be done consistently throughout the map. For instance, you emphasized 00:14:131 (1) - by spacing it out to 3.00x while 00:13:482 (4,5) - being 2.00x. But at 00:10:077 (4,1) - there isn't any emphasis. Same applies to the others like 00:15:266 (8,1) - , 00:12:671 (5,1) - , etc. You could probably set a default spacing for normal beats, and one more for emphasis. In this case, you can nerf 00:10:401 (1,2,3) - and the others into 2.00x while leaving the beats you want to emphasize in 3.00x spacing. I only did this to show that 00:11:374 (5) - is less important and for aesthetic reasons, not to emphasize 00:11:536 (1) -
  7. 00:46:725 (1,2,3,4,5) - The pattern is far more intense than the others in the section. You should nerf the spacings out, or make some of them into sliders. Fixed
  8. The slider velocity of the map is actually too slow for an Extra imo. But changing the SV would cost a remap. The non-kiai part seems fine, but you should probably buff the kiai out with 1.10x~1.20x green lines to make it appear more intense and differenciate the part from the others. You're probably right about that but I like the low SV in this map
  9. You stick to the DS too much and it doesn't get you a chance to emphasize things or even variate things. For example, 00:41:536 - this part you stick to 2.00x everywhere, or 00:51:914 - you stick to 2.50x DS. You should emphasize things more. There is not really anything to emphasize in these parts imo
That should be everything, I hope this helps. Good luck~
Yes, thank you :3
Elcheer
any map that used copied hitsounds from top diff
01:08:455 (5) - hitclap

don't give kds thx
siwu320
Hi, from my queue~

If I didn't mention some diff(s), then this means everything is fine for me.

  1. "Normal" diff missing in the spread? Or there is a gd WIP or something?
  1. 01:25:644 (1,2,3,4) - This part is almost the same with 01:08:131 (3,4,5,1), maybe change a different style would be more interesting. No other problems found
  1. 00:09:752 (1) - Same shape with 00:13:482 (4) and 00:19:320 (1) in a short period, using different shape could be better;
  2. 00:19:806 (2,3,4) - Check ds here;
  3. 00:41:212 (2) - Seems a bit crowded..

Taeyang's style I guess? :)
  1. 01:33:428 - Add an ending note here?
  1. 00:24:022 (4,5) - This overlap looks a bit confusing;
  2. 00:29:860 (1,2,3) - Makes them spaced looks better;
  3. 00:30:347 (4,5,6) - ^

GL~
Topic Starter
Serizawa Haruki

siwu320 wrote:

Hi, from my queue~

If I didn't mention some diff(s), then this means everything is fine for me.

  1. "Normal" diff missing in the spread? Or there is a gd WIP or something? Yeah Normal GD is still WIP, hopefully not for long anymore
  1. 01:25:644 (1,2,3,4) - This part is almost the same with 01:08:131 (3,4,5,1), maybe change a different style would be more interesting. No other problems found In my opinion this pattern is good for consistency
GL~
Thanks for the mod :)
Topic Starter
Serizawa Haruki

Elcheer wrote:

any map that used copied hitsounds from top diff
01:08:455 (5) - hitclap

don't give kds thx
Thanks for pointing it out, I actually found even more hitsound inconsistencies in my diffs and I fixed them. I don't know about the other diffs though because they have different rhythm and hitsounding so everyone should check their own diff please
Faputa

siwu320 wrote:

Hi, from my queue~

  1. 00:24:022 (4,5) - This overlap looks a bit confusing;
  2. 00:29:860 (1,2,3) - Makes them spaced looks better;
  3. 00:30:347 (4,5,6) - ^
All fixed. I mean, I tried?
GL~
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Elcheer

siwu320 wrote:

  1. 00:09:752 (1) - Same shape with 00:13:482 (4) and 00:19:320 (1) in a short period, using different shape could be better; fixed
  2. 00:19:806 (2,3,4) - Check ds here; unsure what you mean by this
  3. 00:41:212 (2) - Seems a bit crowded.. i can't really do anything without making it look worse or changing entire patterns

Taeyang's style I guess? :)
thanks!


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340,82,84185,6,0,P|289:37|178:25,1,150,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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252,269,85968,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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234,178,88239,5,6,0:0:0:0:
270,104,88401,1,0,0:0:0:0:
152,184,88563,1,8,0:0:0:0:
316,172,88725,2,0,P|345:134|312:34,1,150,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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412,158,89374,6,0,P|419:74|388:7,1,150,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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206,19,90185,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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375,92,90509,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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333,189,90833,5,6,0:0:0:0:
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459,225,93104,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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