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EncoreW
833 posts
Joined June 2013
EncoreW
[buhei's Extra]

00:17:723 (2) - 这个地方感觉1/4滑条好一点，00:17:817 - 有个鼓点

00:23:004 (7) - 滑条尾加个whistle

00:37:266 - 浪费了一个finish挺可惜的。。感觉分开下节奏好点。。 https://puu.sh/ykgdS/e359518b9d.png

00:53:405 (5) - NC

[Insane]

00:02:913 (3) - 这个1/4滑条不是太有必要

00:13:736 (1,2,3,4) - 滑条之间的间距

00:56:871 (4) - NC，音效

整体音效的话可以把主难度的复制过来

[Hard]

00:00:824 - 25%的音量太小了，至少要50

00:19:811 (1) - hard话可以放点3连接滑条了 https://puu.sh/ykgmJ/72e93b0990.png

00:20:572 (2) - NC

00:38:215 (4) - 同样道理，一个1/4滑条在hard不是很需要折返这么多次

00:46:379 - 漏音，这段地方的接走感觉有点像normal。。

00:54:179 (1) - 为啥我觉得这种变bpm的地方，单点比滑条难多了。。
Kencho
952 posts
Joined August 2013
Kencho
鴿來了
[Easy]
  1. 00:54:179 (1) - DS大了

[Normal]
  1. 00:27:392 (3) - 滑條尾Unsnapped
  2. 00:45:050 (1,2,3) - 這裡間距小了，而且順便包好點吧
  3. 00:47:709 (4,5,1) - ^

[Hard]
  1. 00:51:126 - 00:53:405 - 重複綠線
  2. 00:36:316 (2) - 放在上面顯得間距太大了，可以放在下面 https://puu.sh/yxaQH/8041e4d2f1.png
  3. 00:38:215 (4) - 節奏這樣下 https://puu.sh/yxaPa/6d6a47bf20.png
  4. 00:46:569 (1,3) - 沒疊好，相信是因為ctrl+G之後滑條錨點的誤差問題
  5. 00:54:179 (6) - NC

[Insane]
  1. 158BPM我覺得AR可以低一點，8.5或者8.7的感覺
  2. 00:00:824 (1,2) - 00:01:584 (1,2) - 00:02:343 (1,2) - 這些1/4的地方如果對比其他1/2的地方來說間距應該要小點，雖然沒說要多小，也不需要固定ds，但比例上要看起來要比1/2小才合理，我個人建議是用1.6x SV的1.0x DS間距，如果不想overlap那麼改成2.0x DS的間距也可以，總之就是比例上不能比1/4大。這裡前面兩滑條的排列你可以複製，1.0x DS的情況比如像這樣 https://puu.sh/yx91y/069f6c97a0.png
  3. 00:02:342 (1) - 包滑條不該只包頭尾的圓圈而不管滑條身體的弧度，雖然不是不行但這種放的不好就比較難看，所以為了美觀的話我建議把弧度也包了 https://puu.sh/yx92N/a1d9a60552.png
  4. 00:02:913 (3,1,2,3,1,2) - https://puu.sh/yx995/84c3f08513.png https://puu.sh/yx99q/bb2b6164fc.png
  5. 00:16:014 (1,2) - 00:17:533 (1,2) - 1/4的間距要小點，和上面說的一樣
  6. 00:22:599 (4) - 這個音效什麼鬼
  7. 00:23:785 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 這個單點跳的部分對於整個圖其他部分來說太大了，而且節奏事實上沒那麼強烈，特別是00:23:974 (2,4,6) - 這裡的音不是特別重，只有一點點漸強的感覺，也不是說不能塞滿圓圈，但間距比例上要小點。比如說你這個0.8x SV的情況下，從1開始用1.5x DS然後每次加0.25x DS，當然要記得00:25:303 (1) - 是1.2x SV，實際的DS要換算一下。或者如果你不想以音樂強度來限制間距，那也可以用固定DS放梗，最好是做個幾何形狀之類的。這裡舉個例子https://puu.sh/yx9yG/a198ef402f.png 我比較喜歡用的三角形梗，先把147用固定DS放好了，然後複製成258再旋轉120度，再複製成361旋轉120度，然後確保頭三個物件是1.5x DS這樣就可以了，如果比較懶不想這麼麻煩也可以直接用縮放功能，把123固定倍率放大，但是這樣做出來的梗變化比較少就是了。
  8. 00:26:253 (4,5,6,7,1) - 其次是這個地方，456間距起碼要保持一致才能表達歌曲，特別671這裡是三連，你要原地連打的話必須要拉開與前面物件的間距才能強調滑條1的重音，比如說 https://puu.sh/yxa17/df1643257f.png，不過老實說間距其實不是重點，物件不一定要根據音樂的強弱而用不同的DS，重音放遠弱音放近這只是大多數mapper都會做的事，但要說的是圓圈和滑條的配合太糟糕了。滑條和圓圈overlap得沒有意義，按照你這幾個物件的位置，滑條1大可以和4包一下，這樣注重美觀順便可以切flow來表達重音 https://puu.sh/yx9Rw/4d408776bd.png，或者不包你也可以做個弧度大的flow，這樣的overlap才有意義 https://puu.sh/yx9T2/07dd2e9158.png，但你原本的擺法弧度不夠大，而且overlap，就變成排列不整潔又不美觀，然後也沒有像上面說的用重音放遠弱音放近的理論，所以這個滑條的存在就沒有意義了。
  9. 00:32:519 (9,1) - 前面的隨機跳就不多說了，但這種重音位置像上面說的一樣，要麼用重音放遠弱音放近的理論，要麼就用點讓這個物件有存在意義的排列
  10. 00:38:974 (1,2) - 1/4間距問題，你對比一下00:35:936 (1,2) - 就知道了，不多說了
  11. 00:41:632 (7,8,1) - 這裡主要是不能很好地表達音樂，首先大鈍角不好打但不是重點，重點是間距和flow。這裡舉個例子 https://puu.sh/yxaxZ/6d8be88d73.png 假如空間沒限制，鈍角大可以這樣放，flow才會好，flow好自然就好打了。然而你這裡空間有限，右邊沒地方放的話，滑條就可以往左邊放，基本上00:42:012 (1) - ctrl+H一下，找個合理的位置就可以了 https://puu.sh/yxaIf/28d746007c.png，這樣怎麼都比原本的排列強好幾倍。
  12. 00:46:189 (7,8,1) - 和上面一樣的問題，這裡右邊空間比較大，你就可以用我上面說的鈍角放法，隨你喜歡 https://puu.sh/yxaKP/6642668f50.png
  13. 00:52:266 (4,5,6,7,1) - 間距對比00:53:405 (3,4,5,6,7) - 來說可以小一點
  14. 00:56:871 (4) - NC

[buhei's Banana]
  1. 00:17:817 - 應該加個圓圈，然後這個地方對比前面00:16:299 (2,3) - 來說間距有點小
  2. 00:37:835 (2,3) - 這樣放更能表達歌曲 https://puu.sh/yx8Oi/0b72d14031.png
  3. 00:55:918 - 紅線綠線音量不一致
  4. 00:22:593 - Unsnapped綠線
如果是1st起飛的話，我要求也不會很高的，但圖是你自己的，質量的好壞取決於你
MeAqua tete
Beatmap Nominator
386 posts
Joined January 2015
Topic Starter
MeAqua tete
Thank you Kencho

Kencho wrote:

鴿來了
[Easy]
  1. 00:54:179 (1) - DS大了

[Normal]
  1. 00:27:392 (3) - 滑條尾Unsnapped
  2. 00:45:050 (1,2,3) - 這裡間距小了，而且順便包好點吧
  3. 00:47:709 (4,5,1) - ^

[Hard]
  1. 00:51:126 - 00:53:405 - 重複綠線
  2. 00:36:316 (2) - 放在上面顯得間距太大了，可以放在下面 https://puu.sh/yxaQH/8041e4d2f1.png
  3. 00:38:215 (4) - 節奏這樣下 https://puu.sh/yxaPa/6d6a47bf20.png
  4. 00:46:569 (1,3) - 沒疊好，相信是因為ctrl+G之後滑條錨點的誤差問題
  5. 00:54:179 (6) - NC

[Insane]
  1. 158BPM我覺得AR可以低一點，8.5或者8.7的感覺
  2. 00:00:824 (1,2) - 00:01:584 (1,2) - 00:02:343 (1,2) - 這些1/4的地方如果對比其他1/2的地方來說間距應該要小點，雖然沒說要多小，也不需要固定ds，但比例上要看起來要比1/2小才合理，我個人建議是用1.6x SV的1.0x DS間距，如果不想overlap那麼改成2.0x DS的間距也可以，總之就是比例上不能比1/4大。這裡前面兩滑條的排列你可以複製，1.0x DS的情況比如像這樣 https://puu.sh/yx91y/069f6c97a0.png
  3. 00:02:342 (1) - 包滑條不該只包頭尾的圓圈而不管滑條身體的弧度，雖然不是不行但這種放的不好就比較難看，所以為了美觀的話我建議把弧度也包了 https://puu.sh/yx92N/a1d9a60552.png
  4. 00:02:913 (3,1,2,3,1,2) - https://puu.sh/yx995/84c3f08513.png https://puu.sh/yx99q/bb2b6164fc.png
  5. 00:16:014 (1,2) - 00:17:533 (1,2) - 1/4的間距要小點，和上面說的一樣
  6. 00:22:599 (4) - 這個音效什麼鬼
  7. 00:23:785 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 這個單點跳的部分對於整個圖其他部分來說太大了，而且節奏事實上沒那麼強烈，特別是00:23:974 (2,4,6) - 這裡的音不是特別重，只有一點點漸強的感覺，也不是說不能塞滿圓圈，但間距比例上要小點。比如說你這個0.8x SV的情況下，從1開始用1.5x DS然後每次加0.25x DS，當然要記得00:25:303 (1) - 是1.2x SV，實際的DS要換算一下。或者如果你不想以音樂強度來限制間距，那也可以用固定DS放梗，最好是做個幾何形狀之類的。這裡舉個例子https://puu.sh/yx9yG/a198ef402f.png 我比較喜歡用的三角形梗，先把147用固定DS放好了，然後複製成258再旋轉120度，再複製成361旋轉120度，然後確保頭三個物件是1.5x DS這樣就可以了，如果比較懶不想這麼麻煩也可以直接用縮放功能，把123固定倍率放大，但是這樣做出來的梗變化比較少就是了。
  8. 00:26:253 (4,5,6,7,1) - 其次是這個地方，456間距起碼要保持一致才能表達歌曲，特別671這裡是三連，你要原地連打的話必須要拉開與前面物件的間距才能強調滑條1的重音，比如說 https://puu.sh/yxa17/df1643257f.png，不過老實說間距其實不是重點，物件不一定要根據音樂的強弱而用不同的DS，重音放遠弱音放近這只是大多數mapper都會做的事，但要說的是圓圈和滑條的配合太糟糕了。滑條和圓圈overlap得沒有意義，按照你這幾個物件的位置，滑條1大可以和4包一下，這樣注重美觀順便可以切flow來表達重音 https://puu.sh/yx9Rw/4d408776bd.png，或者不包你也可以做個弧度大的flow，這樣的overlap才有意義 https://puu.sh/yx9T2/07dd2e9158.png，但你原本的擺法弧度不夠大，而且overlap，就變成排列不整潔又不美觀，然後也沒有像上面說的用重音放遠弱音放近的理論，所以這個滑條的存在就沒有意義了。
  9. 00:32:519 (9,1) - 前面的隨機跳就不多說了，但這種重音位置像上面說的一樣，要麼用重音放遠弱音放近的理論，要麼就用點讓這個物件有存在意義的排列
  10. 00:38:974 (1,2) - 1/4間距問題，你對比一下00:35:936 (1,2) - 就知道了，不多說了
  11. 00:41:632 (7,8,1) - 這裡主要是不能很好地表達音樂，首先大鈍角不好打但不是重點，重點是間距和flow。這裡舉個例子 https://puu.sh/yxaxZ/6d8be88d73.png 假如空間沒限制，鈍角大可以這樣放，flow才會好，flow好自然就好打了。然而你這裡空間有限，右邊沒地方放的話，滑條就可以往左邊放，基本上00:42:012 (1) - ctrl+H一下，找個合理的位置就可以了 https://puu.sh/yxaIf/28d746007c.png，這樣怎麼都比原本的排列強好幾倍。
  12. 00:46:189 (7,8,1) - 和上面一樣的問題，這裡右邊空間比較大，你就可以用我上面說的鈍角放法，隨你喜歡 https://puu.sh/yxaKP/6642668f50.png
  13. 00:52:266 (4,5,6,7,1) - 間距對比00:53:405 (3,4,5,6,7) - 來說可以小一點
  14. 00:56:871 (4) - NC

如果是1st起飛的話，我要求也不會很高的，但圖是你自己的，質量的好壞取決於你
刚来那天就改了 然后忘记写回摸了 指出的地方全部重新考虑过了，可以说尤其是kiai段改了很多地方。本来一味追求pp，现在明白这是不可取的了。mapset虽然是做给players玩的但是如果脱离了表现歌曲的初衷显然就本末倒置了。
buhei
567 posts
Joined February 2012
buhei

Kencho wrote:

[buhei's Banana]
  1. 00:17:817 - 應該加個圓圈，然後這個地方對比前面00:16:299 (2,3) - 來說間距有點小 还是跟人声吧
  2. 00:37:835 (2,3) - 這樣放更能表達歌曲 https://puu.sh/yx8Oi/0b72d14031.png 唔图看不到(可能放太久了
  3. 00:55:918 - 紅線綠線音量不一致 ok
  4. 00:22:593 - Unsnapped綠線 ok
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sahuang
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sahuang
Metadata?

Easy
00:12:976 (1) - use the same slider shape with 00:12:217 (4) - and blanket 00:12:976 (1,2) -
00:41:253 (4,2) - no overlap
NC last note

Normal
00:34:417 (5,1) - blanket
00:41:253 (5,1,2) - aesthetics..00:41:253 (5) - 弧度小一点flow好 00:40:873 (4,1) - 分开
00:54:179 (1,4) - 做的好看一点

Hard
00:26:063 (2,1) - blanket啊
00:42:772 (3,4,5) - ds怎么突然不对了
00:44:291 (3) - 用00:43:531 (1,2) - 节奏
00:46:379 - 00:48:088 - 最好2个圈

Insane
00:01:204 (2,1) - separate？
00:10:887 (3) - 改个位置 正三角形
00:27:392 (3,4) - 这种很难看，最好做个对称的 http://puu.sh/yRql1/ee1e4263d6.jpg
00:27:392 (3,6) - 00:28:721 (8,2,3,4) - 然后这边overlap一起也不好看，很难受，调整一下这一块的滑条和跳的摆放，最好stack或者有规律的overlap什么的
00:32:329 (7) - NC一下
00:33:848 (4,2) - stack
00:35:177 (5,1) - 不好看
00:36:695 (4,5) - 间距能大一点
00:37:266 (6,7,8) - flow很差，滑条向下的
00:40:303 (7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 这个跳太挫了，很没规律，建议改改间距，尤其是突然00:41:063 (4,5,6) - 很诡异

其他应该ok，insane还能做得更好
MeAqua tete
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386 posts
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MeAqua tete
thanks 萨皇

sahuang wrote:

Metadata?

Easy
00:12:976 (1) - use the same slider shape with 00:12:217 (4) - and blanket 00:12:976 (1,2) - fixed
00:41:253 (4,2) - no overlap ok fixed
NC last note alright

Normal
00:34:417 (5,1) - blanket 好了
00:41:253 (5,1,2) - aesthetics..00:41:253 (5) - 弧度小一点flow好 00:40:873 (4,1) - 分开 改掉了
00:54:179 (1,4) - 做的好看一点 修好了

Hard
00:26:063 (2,1) - blanket啊 补篮克特了
00:42:772 (3,4,5) - ds怎么突然不对了 现在ds对了
00:44:291 (3) - 用00:43:531 (1,2) - 节奏 不知道现在这样算不算overlap？
00:46:379 - 00:48:088 - 最好2个圈 ok

Insane
00:01:204 (2,1) - separate？fixed
00:10:887 (3) - 改个位置 正三角形 现在是军姿正了
00:27:392 (3,4) - 这种很难看，最好做个对称的 http://puu.sh/yRql1/ee1e4263d6.jpg 好 修好了
00:27:392 (3,6) - 00:28:721 (8,2,3,4) - 然后这边overlap一起也不好看，很难受，调整一下这一块的滑条和跳的摆放，最好stack或者有规律的overlap什么的 换了种摆法
00:32:329 (7) - NC一下 ok
00:33:848 (4,2) - stack ok
00:35:177 (5,1) - 不好看 换了种摆法 海星
00:36:695 (4,5) - 间距能大一点 bigger
00:37:266 (6,7,8) - flow很差，滑条向下的fixed
00:40:303 (7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 这个跳太挫了，很没规律，建议改改间距，尤其是突然00:41:063 (4,5,6) - 很诡异 改了

其他应该ok，insane还能做得更好
fixed all thanks sahuang :)
MeAqua tete
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MeAqua tete
metadata here ---> https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/623524/start=15 in doyak's post.
buhei
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qualified when
MeAqua tete
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MeAqua tete
ok so after sahuang's recheck I've fixed:
Easy:
00:32:898 (1,2) - fixed blanket
Noemal:
00:48:088 (1) - fixed nc
Hard:
00:26:063 (2) - fixed overlap
00:30:620 (3,4,5,1) - fixed consistency
Insane:
fixed ncs in kiai
Thanks sahuang :)
sahuang
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sahuang
Unused hitsounds:
normal-hitclap.wav
normal-hitfinish.wav
soft-hitclap.wav
soft-hitwhistle.wav
soft-sliderslide.wav

Normal and Insane have unsnapped timing lines (better fix them)

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MeAqua tete
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MeAqua tete
oh my god the qqmail is really annoying
unused hitsounds deleted
unsnapped timing lines fixed
metadata:
also fixed all in mooding assistant
sahuang
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sahuang
bubbled
Karen
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Karen
z
Shima Rin
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Shima Rin
太牛逼了
Sandrew
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Sandrew
wow 恭喜 ;)
Garden
Nomination Assessment Team
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Garden
insane
00:22:599 (4) - wrong snap
无意间路过发现的..
Lasse
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Lasse
yea, just snap it like buhei did
sahuang
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sahuang
wow i missed it :x
Lasse
Beatmap Nominator
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Joined June 2011
Lasse
back
MeAqua tete
Beatmap Nominator
386 posts
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Topic Starter
MeAqua tete
thanks garden and lasse :)
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