BLACKPINK - WHISTLE [Osu|Taiko]

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UniqueBlock11

paydayzcool wrote:

Hi there, M4M from your queue: t/627168/start=45

00:54:435 (4,2) - Overlaps including this in Easy diffs will confuse players.
01:15:698 and 02:30:261 - Why skip this beat here? It's perfectly alright to put a note here because it's only 103BPM.
01:52:979 (1,2) - Watch how you are enforcing direction on the player here and other times: Are you making use of circular flow?
02:49:775 (1,2) - In easy diffs, SV changes should be avoided.
00:19:775 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Watch your changes in coloured ticks. Is this section readable? t/55282 ohh that's what you're talking about. i'll fix that i ended up just remapping this section and the section at 01:34:338 because the current version just didn't flow right.
00:36:668 (2,3) - Why not make 3 the same shape as 2?
01:16:863 (3,4,5) - Again, circular flow should be made use of in Normal diffs.
Limit the large changes in SV as those make the map look like an insane diff.
01:40:746 (1,2,3) - You might want to fix this jump stream. converted it to a 1/4 slider instead.

Just saying, I'm sure you can map a lot better with more practice. Do you really want to spend a year or two trying to rank something like this? i got this :arrow:
woops i kudosed your second mod
i thought it was someone else on my m4m list xd

tiffany yu tyu wrote:

HI Its me again XD
Gonna mod your easy here.
Easy

00:22:979 (2) - consider deleting this one, beginner don't usually play circles on a red ticks (except necessary) but this one is vocals. i think new players will catch on to this rhythm because i started this section of the song with a similar rhythm.
01:08:125 (3) - I think this is too hard for easy, same as this one 01:10:455 (3) -
same as 02:22:689 (3) - - and 02:25:018 (3) -
01:16:863 (1,2,1,1) - I think there is too many return sliders here, beginners can't handle this
01:26:183 (1,2,1,1) - same
shouldn't be changing SV in easy , if yes I think you can change to 0.9 or 1.1, shouldn't be changing that much tho
02:49:775 (1,2) - like this ^
yup, GL!!! :)
no reply = fixed. thanks for modding!
Blackener
Hi from M4M here! :3
This is my first modding (if it's excluding my friends'), feel free to ignore if you don't agree! :D

00:45:989 (73,74,75) - kkd to emphasize voca or kdk to follow high pitch.

01:12:785 (125) - k for sure.

01:06:960 (111,112,113,114,115,116) - kdk to emphasize hihat sound

01:09:290 (117,118,119) - ddk or kdk to follow vocal

01:12:785 (125,127) - k it's high pitch

01:23:562 (141) - k , to emphasize "pa-da-bum" sound and it's already a high pitch.

01:42:202 (173) - k to emphasize previous word.

01:43:368 (176) - k ^

02:00:843 (204) - k ^

02:11:037 (223) - K ? It's the sound you put K like 00:09:872 (14) and 00:19:193 (30)

02:20:649 (241) - k to emphasize previous word plus it's even higher pitch than previous one.

02:21:523 (243,244,245,246,247,248) - kdk or ddk , K at 02:23:270 (248) it's hihat sound that shoud be K that's for the consistency in 02:25:600 (252)

You should put note in 02:24:435 or 02:24:727

02:27:348 (256,258) - k , as I've told before.

02:38:125 (272) - k ^

03:09:290 (325) - how about K ? in my opinion.
00:19:193 (43) - K, it's high pitch and you also put K in Futsuu

00:37:834 (84) - K ^

01:05:503 (154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161) - dkkkdkkd ? like this , 01:05:503 (154,155,156) to follow the vocal and change 01:07:542 (161) to d to emphasize next 1/4 k.

01:09:290 (168) - d , it isn't clap sound, it's drum sound.

01:11:037 (175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182) - all d's maybe ok, but you're also able to follow vocal like this.

01:13:368 (183) - Remove finisher, finisher at the beginning of stream is never a good idea.

01:15:115 (192) - K , it's the high pitch.

01:23:853 (212) - k ^

01:52:397 (280) - K ^

02:11:037 (337) - K, like the first line.

02:12:639 (341,347) - dkk is hard in muzukashii but it sounds better. (optional)

02:20:066 (359,360,361,362,363,364,365,366) - Like 01:05:503 (154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161)

02:23:853 (373) - Like 01:09:290 (168)

02:25:600 (380,381,382,383,384,385,386,387) - Like 01:11:037 (175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182)

02:27:931 (388) - Remove finisher ^

02:29:678 (397) - K, as I've told before

02:48:028 (445) - d, I can't hear any snare or clap sound and for consistency of prevoius pattern.

03:02:008 (489,490,491,492,493,499,500,501,502,503) - These notes sound good, but I'm not sure if they can be 1/4 in quintuplets, because at most, I only see triplets in muzukashii.

03:05:212 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ddkkddkk, to follow vocal and have more fun.

03:12:202 (28) - k, it's the same sound like 03:11:911 (26)

03:16:863 (45) - k, to emphasize whistling sound.

03:21:523 (64) - k ^

03:23:562 (72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80) - I don't know what to do with these monochromatic notes, that's okay .. hopefully
Wow, dat 1/8 notes, I guess it's too hard for this SR. People may think 3.52* is still Muzukashii.

00:04:630 (12) - k, too emphasize vocal and the next ddk

00:07:397 (22) - k, to emphasize high pitch.

00:09:290 (28) - k ^

00:12:639 (40,41,42) - If you want to make 1/8 notes, I suggest starting note at 00:12:494 , the hihat sound starts here. (If I were you, I would put kkddk at it)

00:13:950 (49) - k, like 00:09:290 (28)

00:19:047 - add d here, it also makes you able to change 00:19:193 (78) to K that sounds better and it's for consistency in other diffs.

00:22:834 (89) - You'd better move it to 00:22:542, also move 00:23:270 (90) to 00:22:979 (or just delete it)

00:26:329 (101) - k, to emphasize previous word.

00:27:785 (108) - d, to emphasize next kkk kkk.

00:31:717 (126,127,128,129) - Like 00:22:834 (89) and 00:23:270 (90)

00:34:193 (135,136,137,138,139,140) - Using your previous pattern is already good like this

00:37:688 - Add d, as I've told before

00:37:834 (153) - K ^

00:42:639 (171) - I want to add k here XD

00:47:445 - Maybe add k here ? I'm not sure.

00:51:086 - Add something here. It can be dk, kd, kk or dd. Only note at that point sounds strange in my opinion.

00:56:474 (225) - k ? To emphasize noise.

00:58:513 (231,232) - Ctrl+g, clear voice should be k and 00:58:804 (232) is drum sound that should be d.

01:03:173 (248) - k, it's a high pitch.

01:05:503 (256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263) - - Actually, I want to put dkkd but it's restricted by finisher, so I found the way to fix this like this if you also put k in 01:07:397 , it'll sound pretty nice! :3

01:07:979 (264,265,266,267) - kkdk, it's clap-drum-clap-clap

01:08:999 (269,271) - d, to prevent having too many k's and to emphasize each other sounds. Also k at 01:09:872 (267) for consistency in previous notes.

01:10:164 (268) - d, to emphasize incoming k's

01:13:368 (286) - Remove finisher as I've told you before.

01:15:115 (295) - K, ^

01:17:300 (302) - k, to emphasize next k sound.

01:19:193 (313,314) - kk, high pitch.

01:19:630 (315) - k, ^

01:28:513 (366,367,368) - k, ^

01:33:610 (399) - d, as I've told before.

01:36:232 (408) - k, to follow vocal.

01:37:833 (413) - k, to emphasize next d.

01:37:833 (413) - Move it to 01:37:542 and add spmething at 01:37:834

01:42:348 (432) - d, to emphasize next kkk

01:46:863 (455) - k, to follow vocal

01:52:251 - d and change 01:52:397 (476) to K

01:53:853 (482,483,484) - kdk ? to follow the vocal.

02:02:008 (515,516) - k ? ^

02:04:775 (13) - k, ^

02:06:668 (21) - k, ^

02:12:785 (51) - k ^

02:13:367 (52,54) - Ctrl+G, to emphasize vocal.

02:13:950 (54) - k, ^

02:18:173 (72) - k, ^

02:20:066 (77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84) - - Like 01:05:503 (256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263)

02:22:979 (88) - k, as I've told before.

02:23:562 (90,92) - d, ^

02:24:435 (93) - k, ^

02:27:931 (112) - Remove finisher.

02:29:678 (121) - K, as I've told you before

02:31:863 (128) - k, to emphasize next k sound.

02:33:756 (139,140,141) - k, to follow vocal.

02:41:183 (181) - k, to emphasize whisting.

02:43:076 (192,193,194) - k, to follow vocal.

02:45:843 (208) - k, to emphasize vocal.

I think you know what to do with 02:48:173 (if you agree.) XD

03:02:445 (280) - d, to emphasize next k sound. ( You did this part very well, I almost cannot find any error. :) )

03:06:377 (302,303,304,305,306,307,308) - If you want to follow vocal, how about this ?

03:07:542 (311) - Remove finisher.

03:11:037 (327) - k, to emphasize whistling

03:11:620 (330) - k, ^

03:13:368 (343) - k, ^ and to follow vocal.

03:13:659 (344,345,346) - kkd or kdk, ^

03:14:387 (348,349,350) - ddk , k will follow the tuba sound.

03:15:261 (355,356) - Ctrl+G, to emphasize next whistling. 03:15:698 (357) that should be k.

03:16:717 (362,363,364) - dkk is still okay (I guess). I'd like to put ddk personally.

03:17:736 (369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380) - Hard to explain but I know that 1/4 has to end with k because of high pitch. I found that my best is this or that.

03:20:940 (390) - k, ^

03:21:377 (393) - choose kkk like previous part or dkk like this.

03:21:377 (393) - Ctrl+G, to emphasize vocal in 03:22:688 (402) that should be k.

03:23:125 (404,405) - Ctrl+G, ^

03:23:707 (408,409,410) - ddk, I guess.


Hope this will help you atleast one line XD
Good luck for ranking, I like your song! :D
Topic Starter
UniqueBlock11

Blackener wrote:

Hi from M4M here! :3
This is my first modding (if it's excluding my friends'), feel free to ignore if you don't agree! :D

00:45:989 (73,74,75) - kkd to emphasize voca or kdk to follow high pitch. used kkd

01:12:785 (125) - k for sure.

01:06:960 (111,112,113,114,115,116) - kdk to emphasize hihat sound

01:09:290 (117,118,119) - ddk or kdk to follow vocal used ddk

01:12:785 (125,127) - k it's high pitch

01:23:562 (141) - k , to emphasize "pa-da-bum" sound and it's already a high pitch.

01:42:202 (173) - k to emphasize previous word.

01:43:368 (176) - k ^ i think this sounds better as d instead.

02:00:843 (204) - k ^

02:11:037 (223) - K ? It's the sound you put K like 00:09:872 (14) and 00:19:193 (30)

02:20:649 (241) - k to emphasize previous word plus it's even higher pitch than previous one.

02:21:523 (243,244,245,246,247,248) - kdk or ddk , K at 02:23:270 (248) it's hihat sound that shoud be K that's for the consistency in 02:25:600 (252) used kdk

You should put note in 02:24:435 or 02:24:727 added d

02:27:348 (256,258) - k , as I've told before.

02:38:125 (272) - k ^

03:09:290 (325) - how about K ? in my opinion.
00:19:193 (43) - K, it's high pitch and you also put K in Futsuu

00:37:834 (84) - K ^

01:05:503 (154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161) - dkkkdkkd ? like this , 01:05:503 (154,155,156) to follow the vocal and change 01:07:542 (161) to d to emphasize next 1/4 k.

01:09:290 (168) - d , it isn't clap sound, it's drum sound.

01:11:037 (175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182) - all d's maybe ok, but you're also able to follow vocal like this. whoa that sounds good

01:13:368 (183) - Remove finisher, finisher at the beginning of stream is never a good idea.

01:15:115 (192) - K , it's the high pitch.

01:23:853 (212) - k ^

01:52:397 (280) - K ^

02:11:037 (337) - K, like the first line.

02:12:639 (341,347) - dkk is hard in muzukashii but it sounds better. (optional) i think it sounds ok the way it is.

02:20:066 (359,360,361,362,363,364,365,366) - Like 01:05:503 (154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161)

02:23:853 (373) - Like 01:09:290 (168)

02:25:600 (380,381,382,383,384,385,386,387) - Like 01:11:037 (175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182)

02:27:931 (388) - Remove finisher ^

02:29:678 (397) - K, as I've told before

02:48:028 (445) - d, I can't hear any snare or clap sound and for consistency of prevoius pattern.

03:02:008 (489,490,491,492,493,499,500,501,502,503) - These notes sound good, but I'm not sure if they can be 1/4 in quintuplets, because at most, I only see triplets in muzukashii. removed note at 03:02:445, it still sounds good and is a triplet now.

03:05:212 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ddkkddkk, to follow vocal and have more fun.

03:12:202 (28) - k, it's the same sound like 03:11:911 (26)

03:16:863 (45) - k, to emphasize whistling sound.

03:21:523 (64) - k ^

03:23:562 (72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80) - I don't know what to do with these monochromatic notes, that's okay .. hopefully changed it to Kkddkddk.
Wow, dat 1/8 notes, I guess it's too hard for this SR. People may think 3.52* is still Muzukashii.

00:04:630 (12) - k, too emphasize vocal and the next ddk

00:07:397 (22) - k, to emphasize high pitch.

00:09:290 (28) - k ^

00:12:639 (40,41,42) - If you want to make 1/8 notes, I suggest starting note at 00:12:494 , the hihat sound starts here. (If I were you, I would put kkddk at it)

00:13:950 (49) - k, like 00:09:290 (28)

00:19:047 - add d here, it also makes you able to change 00:19:193 (78) to K that sounds better and it's for consistency in other diffs.

00:22:834 (89) - You'd better move it to 00:22:542, also move 00:23:270 (90) to 00:22:979 (or just delete it)

00:26:329 (101) - k, to emphasize previous word.

00:27:785 (108) - d, to emphasize next kkk kkk.

00:31:717 (126,127,128,129) - Like 00:22:834 (89) and 00:23:270 (90)

00:34:193 (135,136,137,138,139,140) - Using your previous pattern is already good like this it sounds ok the way it is.

00:37:688 - Add d, as I've told before

00:37:834 (153) - K ^

00:42:639 (171) - I want to add k here XD

00:47:445 - Maybe add k here ? I'm not sure. yea, k sounds fine here.

00:51:086 - Add something here. It can be dk, kd, kk or dd. Only note at that point sounds strange in my opinion. added kd

00:56:474 (225) - k ? To emphasize noise.

00:58:513 (231,232) - Ctrl+g, clear voice should be k and 00:58:804 (232) is drum sound that should be d.

01:03:173 (248) - k, it's a high pitch.

01:05:503 (256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263) - - Actually, I want to put dkkd but it's restricted by finisher, so I found the way to fix this like this if you also put k in 01:07:397 , it'll sound pretty nice! :3 omg it doesssssss

01:07:979 (264,265,266,267) - kkdk, it's clap-drum-clap-clap

01:08:999 (269,271) - d, to prevent having too many k's and to emphasize each other sounds. Also k at 01:09:872 (267) for consistency in previous notes. changed entire rhythm to kdkkd, since it just sounds better imo.

01:10:164 (268) - d, to emphasize incoming k's

01:13:368 (286) - Remove finisher as I've told you before.

01:15:115 (295) - K, ^

01:17:300 (302) - k, to emphasize next k sound.

01:19:193 (313,314) - kk, high pitch.

01:19:630 (315) - k, ^

01:28:513 (366,367,368) - k, ^

01:33:610 (399) - d, as I've told before. if i did this, the d would be mapped to nothing, and it kind of sounds awkward so i kept this the same.

01:36:232 (408) - k, to follow vocal.

01:37:833 (413) - k, to emphasize next d.

01:37:833 (413) - Move it to 01:37:542 and add spmething at 01:37:834

01:42:348 (432) - d, to emphasize next kkk

01:46:863 (455) - k, to follow vocal

01:52:251 - d and change 01:52:397 (476) to K

01:53:853 (482,483,484) - kdk ? to follow the vocal.

02:02:008 (515,516) - k ? ^

02:04:775 (13) - k, ^

02:06:668 (21) - k, ^

02:12:785 (51) - k ^

02:13:367 (52,54) - Ctrl+G, to emphasize vocal.

02:13:950 (54) - k, ^

02:18:173 (72) - k, ^

02:20:066 (77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84) - - Like 01:05:503 (256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263)

02:22:979 (88) - k, as I've told before.

02:23:562 (90,92) - d, ^

02:24:435 (93) - k, ^ i used the rhythm kdkkd from 02:23:270, which is what i did at 01:08:707.

02:27:931 (112) - Remove finisher.

02:29:678 (121) - K, as I've told you before

02:31:863 (128) - k, to emphasize next k sound.

02:33:756 (139,140,141) - k, to follow vocal.

02:41:183 (181) - k, to emphasize whisting.

02:43:076 (192,193,194) - k, to follow vocal.

02:45:843 (208) - k, to emphasize vocal.

I think you know what to do with 02:48:173 (if you agree.) XD ye!1!!1!1!!

03:02:445 (280) - d, to emphasize next k sound. ( You did this part very well, I almost cannot find any error. :)thanks man :))

03:06:377 (302,303,304,305,306,307,308) - If you want to follow vocal, how about this ?

03:07:542 (311) - Remove finisher.

03:11:037 (327) - k, to emphasize whistling

03:11:620 (330) - k, ^

03:13:368 (343) - k, ^ and to follow vocal.

03:13:659 (344,345,346) - kkd or kdk, ^ used kkd

03:14:387 (348,349,350) - ddk , k will follow the tuba sound.

03:15:261 (355,356) - Ctrl+G, to emphasize next whistling. 03:15:698 (357) that should be k.

03:16:717 (362,363,364) - dkk is still okay (I guess). I'd like to put ddk personally.

03:17:736 (369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380) - Hard to explain but I know that 1/4 has to end with k because of high pitch. I found that my best is this or that. first one sounds perfect!

03:20:940 (390) - k, ^

03:21:377 (393) - choose kkk like previous part or dkk like this. used kkk

03:21:377 (393) - Ctrl+G, to emphasize vocal in 03:22:688 (402) that should be k.

03:23:125 (404,405) - Ctrl+G, ^

03:23:707 (408,409,410) - ddk, I guess.


Hope this will help you atleast one line XD [color=#00BF00]this is my first taiko map, it helped me by a long way. :D

Good luck for ranking, I like your song! :Dsweet! thanks for modding :arrow:
PS Oni is now 3.81 stars, you did some work :O
Simuzax
M4M from your queue
Any questions about the mod just pm me in-game

Could be me but seems like your offset is slightly off, should be around 1150
Check AiMod on Easy and Normal
00:16:280 (1,2) - this is following the same sound as these 00:11:620 (1,2) - so using this rhythm should be better


00:18:901 (5) - sliders should end in stronger beats than their heads, use this rhythm to fix that along with highlighting the vocals


00:20:649 (2) - end slider earlier and use a reverse slider instead like you did here 00:22:542 (1) - rn youre missing a syllable
00:25:309 (3) - ^ but here youre missing 2 syllables .-.
00:32:300 (3) - ^
00:34:630 (2) - ^ instead just use a circle
01:39:872 (3) - ^
01:44:533 (3) - ^ instead just use a circle
00:23:853 (3) - using this rhythm here would emphasize both syllables better imo


00:34:193 (1) - this should be just a 1/4 slider starting here 00:34:338
01:34:775 (1) - ^ 01:34:921
00:56:474 (7) - youre ignoring a rly strong sound with this sliderend, end this slider earlier and put a spaced circle at 00:57:057 to emphasize that
01:37:397 - missed sound here
01:46:863 (3) - end this earlier and put another slider at 01:47:736 to emphasize the ''Shh''
03:09:290 (1) - using this rhythm here should be better since rn youre ending this slider on another whistle (a real one) along with a cymbal sound
00:18:901 (7) - sliders should end in stronger beats than their heads, use this rhythm to fix that along with highlighting the vocals


00:20:649 (3) - end slider 1 tick earlier and put a circle where the sliderend was to emphasize vocals, rn youre missing a syllable
00:25:892 (2) - ^
00:32:300 (4) - ^
00:34:630 (5) - ^
01:38:999 (1) - ^
01:39:872 (4) - ^ then turn the (1) slider into 2 circles to be consistent with other patterns
01:44:533 (4) - ^
00:23:853 (5) - using this rhythm here would emphasize both syllables better imo


00:24:872 (2) - same thing here


00:32:008 (3,4) - fix blanket with (3) head
00:32:300 (4) - 00:34:630 (5) - this section is a rly weird, like, youre ignoring the vocals by not putting a circle where the first slider ends, also here 00:33:465 (3) - youre ignoring another syllable in the middle of the slider along with the slider ending on a strong beat lol, this rhythm would fix those problems pretty well imo


00:56:474 (9) - youre ignoring a rly strong sound with this sliderend, end this slider earlier and put a spaced circle at 00:57:057 to emphasize that
01:04:047 (3) - i suppose youre following vocals here so this slider should start 1 tick earlier
02:18:611 (2) - ^
01:34:775 (1) - delete that circle since youre following vocals here
01:46:863 (2) - end this earlier and put another slider at 01:47:736 to emphasize the ''Shh''
02:11:037 (1,2,3) - a reverse slider here should represent the BG sound better imo
02:11:426 (3,4) - also space these more, (4) sound is rly strong
03:09:290 (1) - using this rhythm here should be better since rn youre ending this slider on another whistle (a real one) along with a cymbal sound


03:27:931 - kiai should end here

That's all i can find. I hope it's enough. GL with your map here onward :D
And don't stop mapping k-pop :)
Topic Starter
UniqueBlock11

Simuzax wrote:

M4M from your queue
Any questions about the mod just pm me in-game

Could be me but seems like your offset is slightly off, should be around 1150 changed it to 1145.
Check AiMod on Easy and Normal
00:16:280 (1,2) - this is following the same sound as these 00:11:620 (1,2) - so using this rhythm should be better


00:18:901 (5) - sliders should end in stronger beats than their heads, use this rhythm to fix that along with highlighting the vocals didn't change this one since i wasn't intent on mapping on the vocals, but i'll keep this in mind for the rest of the map.


00:20:649 (2) - end slider earlier and use a reverse slider instead like you did here 00:22:542 (1) - rn youre missing a syllable it kind of sounds like it is, but playing the song at 50% speed shows that there is a sound there.
00:25:309 (3) - ^ but here youre missing 2 syllables .-.
00:32:300 (3) - ^
00:34:630 (2) - ^ instead just use a circle
01:39:872 (3) - ^
01:44:533 (3) - ^ instead just use a circle
00:23:853 (3) - using this rhythm here would emphasize both syllables better imo


00:34:193 (1) - this should be just a 1/4 slider starting here 00:34:338 there is a drum sound here and i think some players would expect to click here.
01:34:775 (1) - ^ 01:34:921 same reason ^.
00:56:474 (7) - youre ignoring a rly strong sound with this sliderend, end this slider earlier and put a spaced circle at 00:57:057 to emphasize that
01:37:397 - missed sound here she sings two syllables from 01:37:115, there is a silence here.
01:46:863 (3) - end this earlier and put another slider at 01:47:736 to emphasize the ''Shh''
03:09:290 (1) - using this rhythm here should be better since rn youre ending this slider on another whistle (a real one) along with a cymbal sound didn't do this for hard, but i did this for insane since this rhythm kind of feels "strange" when i use it hard
00:18:901 (7) - sliders should end in stronger beats than their heads, use this rhythm to fix that along with highlighting the vocals same reason as slider in hard diff.


00:20:649 (3) - end slider 1 tick earlier and put a circle where the sliderend was to emphasize vocals, rn youre missing a syllable i don't want to extend the stream after the sliderend, i think it raises the difficulty somehow.
00:25:892 (2) - ^
00:32:300 (4) - ^
00:34:630 (5) - ^
01:38:999 (1) - ^
01:39:872 (4) - ^ then turn the (1) slider into 2 circles to be consistent with other patterns
01:44:533 (4) - ^
00:23:853 (5) - using this rhythm here would emphasize both syllables better imo


00:24:872 (2) - same thing here actually the current version sounds pretty nice, i did use the change above though.


00:32:008 (3,4) - fix blanket with (3) head
00:32:300 (4) - 00:34:630 (5) - this section is a rly weird, like, youre ignoring the vocals by not putting a circle where the first slider ends, also here 00:33:465 (3) - youre ignoring another syllable in the middle of the slider along with the slider ending on a strong beat lol, this rhythm would fix those problems pretty well imo


00:56:474 (9) - youre ignoring a rly strong sound with this sliderend, end this slider earlier and put a spaced circle at 00:57:057 to emphasize that
01:04:047 (3) - i suppose youre following vocals here so this slider should start 1 tick earlier i actually originally wanted this to sound on the vocals but it got confusing because i couldn't tell where she started to sing that syllable so i decided to just leave on a 1/1 tick.
02:18:611 (2) - ^ same reason ^
01:34:775 (1) - delete that circle since youre following vocals here there's a drum sound here and i did this across this map and hard as well.
01:46:863 (2) - end this earlier and put another slider at 01:47:736 to emphasize the ''Shh'' placed a circle on 01:47:736
02:11:037 (1,2,3) - a reverse slider here should represent the BG sound better imo
02:11:426 (3,4) - also space these more, (4) sound is rly strong
03:09:290 (1) - using this rhythm here should be better since rn youre ending this slider on another whistle (a real one) along with a cymbal sound


03:27:931 - kiai should end here

That's all i can find. I hope it's enough. GL with your map here onward :D thanks for modding! i'll try to get to your map this morning btw.
And don't stop mapping k-pop :)i won't :arrow:
Stormiverse
M4M from your QQQQQ!

I don't play Taiko sorry.

[Easy]
Who told you you can change slider velocity in Easy Difficulty?
Check AImod, will you?
00:41:921 (3) - Slidershape looks a bit dull, maybe try this? A little symmetry wouldn't hurt anyone.
00:59:979 (2,3) - Why do these overlap? Like I've said before, Slider Velocity changes are discouraged in this difficulty, and why did Distance Snap suddenly changed from 1.2x to 1.0x? There's no reason to do so since this is only Easy difficulty. Need more consistency!
01:02:310 (2,3) - ^
02:16:874 (2,3) - ^
03:02:310 (4,1) - ^
01:19:203 (1,2) - Overlap, may cause reading issues to new players.
01:42:504 (2,1) - ^

[Unimash's Normal]
Slider Velocity changes are discouraged, especially when there's a drastic difference between 1.0x and 1.5x
Check AImod, please.
02:05:513 (3,1) - Overlap

Not really a fan of k-pop so I can't give you more accurate mods. Sorry if this is not what you're looking for.
Topic Starter
UniqueBlock11

Stormiverse wrote:

M4M from your QQQQQ!

I don't play Taiko sorry. never said you had to mod the taiko diffs

[Easy]
Who told you you can change slider velocity in Easy Difficulty? slider velocities can be used, however they should be minuscule in the lower difficulties
Check AImod, will you? yes i will :arrow:
00:41:921 (3) - Slidershape looks a bit dull, maybe try this? A little symmetry wouldn't hurt anyone. placed the anchors completely perpendicular to the slider start and end anchors for maximum curve
00:59:979 (2,3) - Why do these overlap? Like I've said before, Slider Velocity changes are discouraged in this difficulty, and why did Distance Snap suddenly changed from 1.2x to 1.0x? There's no reason to do so since this is only Easy difficulty. Need more consistency! again, slider velocities can be used, but should be minuscule. i switched to 1x since the song transitions into a more 'slower' section, and should be represented with less distance snap, however, you are correct about the overlap, so i changed the reverse slider to a circle instead.
01:02:310 (2,3) - ^
02:16:874 (2,3) - ^
03:02:310 (4,1) - ^
01:19:203 (1,2) - Overlap, may cause reading issues to new players.
01:42:504 (2,1) - ^

[Unimash's Normal]
Slider Velocity changes are discouraged, especially when there's a drastic difference between 1.0x and 1.5x ok, i'll note that.
i used 1.5x because even though it's a pretty big difference, the velocity change is barely noticable. my noob friends could play those sections kinda ok.

Check AImod, please.
02:05:513 (3,1) - Overlap

Not really a fan of k-pop so I can't give you more accurate mods. Sorry if this is not what you're looking for. it was useful. thanks for the mod!
Zectro
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/6224288


[Easy]
If you look at every ranked map's 'Easy' ever you will see that the distance between objects is always 1.00x, unlike in this map, where it's 1.30x or 1.20x most of the time. This isn't allowed in Easy difficulties as it confuses new players. You don't want all your hit objects overlapping either which would happen if you change all the spacings to 1.00x with your current slider velocity. The best option here is to change the overall slider velocity of the map (in the timing tab) to something like 1.80x instead of the standard 1.40x. This would mean you have to tweak the whole map. Because of this reason I will hold back from giving any other comments on this difficulty.

[Unimash's Normal]
Same goes for this difficulty. After applying the changes, I also suggest you hold back from using patterns like 00:27:067 (1,2,3,4) - as they are too confusing for normal players.

[Hard]
Avoiding overlaps ( 00:13:669 (4,2) - ) still seems to be quite a challenge for you. Disregarding the fact that they look messy, they can confuse the player as they might not be able to easily recognize the overlapped object.
Keep in mind I do not mean overlaps like 00:15:562 (2,1) - , these might not look good, but they do not have any negative effect on the gameplay as far as I know.

Drastic SV changes can be confusing even for more experienced players, as you can't see beforehand if a slider is going to have a slower or faster velocity, apart from the minimal detail of the fade in time if you have snaking sliders enabled. This is why extreme SV changes can be quite dangerous, and they should only be used to emphasize a very obvious, usually also predictable, sound or rhythm.
The above alone should be a reason to change things such as 00:20:659 (2,1) - , as I believe that the rhythm and/or sound they follow is not obvious and/or predictable enough for this extreme of a SV change to happen.
That, and the fact that this is a Hard difficulty and you shouldn't have such extreme SV changes in a Hard difficulty anyway.

On the topic of SV changes and making them more predictable for the player, a good way to help the player is by using NC's. You should use them in places like 00:28:523 (3) - . That aside I also want to add that the thing about extreme SV's that shouldn't be in a Hard difficulty goes for 00:28:523 (3) - aswell.

01:05:513 (1,1) - Reminder that overlaps like these are unrankable

[Insane]
I feel like this is the difficulty that's closest to being rankable as of now, so I will go over some more advanced mapping concepts here.

For example, emphasizing certain sounds. On 00:24:445 - there's a loud kick which you nicely emphasize by starting a slider on it ( 00:24:445 (1) - ). Same goes for 00:25:028 - . But then you put the third kick, the one at 00:25:319 - , on a slider end. It is known that it's a better playing experience if the player gets to actually click those very loud sounds like that kick. It can also be pretty confusing. Possible solution.
Same thing goes for 00:31:727 - 01:01:727 - 01:19:785 - etc.

00:25:611 (1,2) - These sliders don't actually follow any sound or rhythm as far as I can hear. Don't quote me on this but I think filler hit objects like these are not allowed.

Overlays still seem to be a big problem in this difficulty, which is expected. I don't think you'll see this many overlays 00:53:280 (4,5,1,3) - in a recent ranked map. And yes, even though they might not all be on the screen at the same time, it's also about the player expecting hit objects to be in different places instead of just on the same square.
Collection of overlaps that I find to be specially problematic with extra comments:
00:24:009 (6,1) - ugly
00:39:009 (3,4,2) - confusing
00:44:834 (4,1,2,3) - confusing
00:53:280 (4,5,1,2,3) - confusing
00:55:465 (4,5,6,7,8) - ugly
00:58:232 (4,1) - ugly
01:22:115 (4,6,7,1) - ugly
01:42:067 (3,1,2) - confusing
02:06:678 (8,9,1,2) - confusing
03:21:970 (3,4,5) - confusing

So, to summarize, points of focus are Overlays and Sound Emphasizing.


Please don't get discouraged by this mod. I feel like you are able to rank this. You can do it!
Topic Starter
UniqueBlock11

Zectro wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/6224288


[Easy]
If you look at every ranked map's 'Easy' ever you will see that the distance between objects is always 1.00x, unlike in this map, where it's 1.30x or 1.20x most of the time. This isn't allowed in Easy difficulties as it confuses new players. You don't want all your hit objects overlapping either which would happen if you change all the spacings to 1.00x with your current slider velocity. The best option here is to change the overall slider velocity of the map (in the timing tab) to something like 1.80x instead of the standard 1.40x. This would mean you have to tweak the whole map. Because of this reason I will hold back from giving any other comments on this difficulty.

[Unimash's Normal]
Same goes for this difficulty. After applying the changes, I also suggest you hold back from using patterns like 00:27:067 (1,2,3,4) - as they are too confusing for normal players. the reason why i used 1.3x and 1.2x distance snap is to emphasize some slow parts of the song, and also because the i wanted a slow slider velocity for easier difficulties. when is started mapping easy diff, 1.0x made everything overlap, so i kept to a 1.3x snap for the song. for now, i'll keep the difficulties the same but if someone else mentions this i'll definitely remap the appropriate sections again. i did change the rhythm you mentioned above to something more understandable.

[Hard]
Avoiding overlaps ( 00:13:669 (4,2) - ) still seems to be quite a challenge for you. Disregarding the fact that they look messy, they can confuse the player as they might not be able to easily recognize the overlapped object. ok, to fix overlaps is it ok to break distance snap when it doesn't feel like it should be broken? i want (2) to blanket with (4) here.
Keep in mind I do not mean overlaps like 00:15:562 (2,1) - , these might not look good, but they do not have any negative effect on the gameplay as far as I know.

Drastic SV changes can be confusing even for more experienced players, as you can't see beforehand if a slider is going to have a slower or faster velocity, apart from the minimal detail of the fade in time if you have snaking sliders enabled. This is why extreme SV changes can be quite dangerous, and they should only be used to emphasize a very obvious, usually also predictable, sound or rhythm.
The above alone should be a reason to change things such as 00:20:659 (2,1) - , as I believe that the rhythm and/or sound they follow is not obvious and/or predictable enough for this extreme of a SV change to happen.
That, and the fact that this is a Hard difficulty and you shouldn't have such extreme SV changes in a Hard difficulty anyway. i think these SV changes do work properly, so i made a transition from a fast SV to a slow SV so that it would be less noticeable.

On the topic of SV changes and making them more predictable for the player, a good way to help the player is by using NC's. You should use them in places like 00:28:523 (3) - . That aside I also want to add that the thing about extreme SV's that shouldn't be in a Hard difficulty goes for 00:28:523 (3) - aswell. fixed all extreme SV's in the sections you mentioned.

01:05:513 (1,1) - Reminder that overlaps like these are unrankable i do not remember mapping this lol

[Insane]
I feel like this is the difficulty that's closest to being rankable as of now, so I will go over some more advanced mapping concepts here.

For example, emphasizing certain sounds. On 00:24:445 - there's a loud kick which you nicely emphasize by starting a slider on it ( 00:24:445 (1) - ). Same goes for 00:25:028 - . But then you put the third kick, the one at 00:25:319 - , on a slider end. It is known that it's a better playing experience if the player gets to actually click those very loud sounds like that kick. It can also be pretty confusing. Possible solution.
Same thing goes for 00:31:727 - 01:01:727 - 01:19:785 - etc. fixed most rhythms you mentioned didn't fix some since i was mapping to vocals on some.

00:25:611 (1,2) - These sliders don't actually follow any sound or rhythm as far as I can hear. Don't quote me on this but I think filler hit objects like these are not allowed.

Overlays still seem to be a big problem in this difficulty, which is expected. I don't think you'll see this many overlays 00:53:280 (4,5,1,3) - in a recent ranked map. And yes, even though they might not all be on the screen at the same time, it's also about the player expecting hit objects to be in different places instead of just on the same square.
Collection of overlaps that I find to be specially problematic with extra comments:
00:24:009 (6,1) - ugly changed it to two beautiful parallel sliders
00:39:009 (3,4,2) - confusing moved (2) to a deep dark valley
00:44:834 (4,1,2,3) - confusing huh, looks neat to me
00:53:280 (4,5,1,2,3) - confusing (3) no longer loves (1) :3
00:55:465 (4,5,6,7,8) - ugly (5) can now pass art class :3
00:58:232 (4,1) - ugly (4) now has no friends :3
01:22:115 (4,6,7,1) - ugly (6,7,1) will be punished 8-)
01:42:067 (3,1,2) - confusing dammit (1), don't cheat!
02:06:678 (8,9,1,2) - confusing (8,9,2) realized the true meaning of symmetry
03:21:970 (3,4,5) - confusing and ugly

So, to summarize, points of focus are Overlays and Sound Emphasizing. noted!


Please don't get discouraged by this mod. I feel like you are able to rank this. You can do it! wasn't discouraging! its useful advice. thanks for the encouragement and mod :)
Mking
Hey there M4M from my modding queue ~
[Insane]
00:26:339 (4,5) - blanket is off (ending anchor needs to be fixed)
00:39:300 (4) - move to x96 y184 ? (to make the 2 sliders fit into eachother more)
01:10:319 (3) - ctrl g for flow?
01:33:766 (9) - NC to mark the SV change
02:09:300 (1,2,3) - move 2 up to get a more straight line pattern here?
02:37:552 (2,3,4) - are these supposed to be the same sliders? cause 3 feels a little bit off

[Hard]
00:18:766 (4,5) - why are these 2 spaced so close when everything else is spaced further? maybe space it more :p
00:21:533 (1,2) - blanket is a bit off
00:51:533 (3) - this is only a hard diff so flow like this is something I wouldnt recommend doing, its only 3.3 stars
03:01:727 (3,4) - move 4 more to 3 cause its overlapped more with the next object
03:04:057 (3,4) - have these spaced the same as ^
03:13:378 (1) - ctrl g for flow

[Normal]
00:33:183 (1) - ctrl g? in Normal diffs sliders should face the next object
02:18:620 (1) - ctrl g?
02:18:620 (1,2) - blanket
The difficulty name my need to be changed to "advanced" cause this is way harder than a regular normal diff

Im not good at Easy diffs myself so I'll end it here xD
Hope I helped and GL!
Saltssaumure
Hi, M4M from your modqueue.

[General]
Your map could make better use of the space available. It's very crowded around the centre, make sure to go into the sides and the corners.
https://i.imgur.com/pnjqWtE.jpg

[Insane]
Since this is Insane diff, you can make less use of distance snap and put jumps to emphasise strong notes more. Like 00:11:921 (2,3) - where 3 is a very strong note with drum and whistle at the same time.
00:20:222 (2,1,2,3) - Not quite in a straight line. If it's supposed to be straight, make it perfect. If it's curved, then make the curve more obvious.
00:31:727 (2,3,4) - ^
00:22:552 (1,2,3,4) - flow from 3 to 4 is a little uncomfortable, move 4 so that it's more a part of the arc.
00:24:009 (6,1) - slight overlap like this looks untidy, either overlap more so it looks deliberate, or remove overlap.
00:39:591 (1,3) - ^
01:46:581 (1,2) - ^
02:30:417 (2,3,1) - ^
00:27:067 (6,1) - blanket
00:35:805 (3,1,2,3) - stack 3 circle under 3 sliderend.
00:39:009 (3,4) - nudge 4 to the right a little to make it symmetrical and blanketing 3.
00:41:339 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I like the flow in this section!
00:47:746 (3,4) - copy paste to make these sliders the same shape pls
00:49:785 (1,2,3) - ^
00:49:785 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - 2 circle in second combo would look better stacked under 1 sliderend in first combo.
01:02:601 (3,4) - make sliderbody 4 in line with 3.
01:08:717 (1,2,3) - Would look better if this pattern was rotationally symmetrical.
01:10:319 (3,4,5,1) - move 5 so that 3,5,1 make an equliateral triangle
01:15:708 (1) - move to x:163 y:279 (rly picky comment I know...)
01:24:882 (5,6,1,2) - move 5,6,1, so that it forms a smooth arc with 2
01:26:630 (4,5,6) - ^ move 5 but also make sure it blankets 6 from a distance
01:50:659 (1,2,3,4,5) - would look better if 5 was parallel with 1
01:53:863 (4,1) - really uncomfortable flow here bc lots of direction changes. consider changing?
02:02:164 (6,1,2,3) - looks like a bow and arrow, would look even better if it was more symmetrical.
02:11:047 (1) - make slider shape more unique to telegraph slow slider speed?
02:25:611 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - Ayy this is nice!
02:29:689 (1) - move end anchor to x:216 y:349 (picky comment again :v)
03:07:552 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - could increase spacing from start to end of stream, as the song increases in intensity
03:18:620 (3,4,5,1) - would look better if symmetrical

[Hard]
HP7 seems excessive. Turn it down to 5, as even Insane only has HP6.
Lots of untidy blanketing in this diff eg. 00:21:533 (1,2) and 00:22:552 (1,2)
00:12:212 (3,4,5,1,2) - stuff not quite in a straight line
00:29:979 (3,4) - weird overlap (I'm not going to point out more of these, it's just places where the overlap doesn't fit the rhythm and doesn't make a cool shape)
00:28:523 (1,1) - 1/2 spacing looks too similar to 1/4 spacing (and vice versa)
01:18:620 (2,3) - ^
01:16:144 (3,1,2) - ^
01:55:319 (1,2) - ^
02:28:378 (2,3,4,1) - ^
03:11:921 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - ^
00:57:358 (1,2,3,4) - looks strange and uncomfortable flow. make 1 point to 2 more, and better blanketing
01:02:601 (2,3) - this rhythm is unreadable, just have the slider in time with drum on white tick.
01:41:047 (2,1,2,3) - move stream so that 3 in stream is under 2 sliderend.
02:11:047 (1) - make slider shape more unique to telegraph slow slider speed?
02:21:824 (3,1) - 3/4 beat pause is unintuitive, find a better way to express this rhythm.
03:02:164 (4,5) - ^
03:19:203 (1,2) - ^
02:49:494 (1,2) - blanket
03:08:135 (3,4,5,6,7) - make stream zigzag more obvious
03:21:387 (3,4,1,2,3) - don't switch between 1/8 stack and 1/4 stack, it's too hard to read

[Normal]
00:09:882 (1,2) - 3/4 beat pause is unintuitive, find a better way to express this rhythm.
00:19:785 (1,1) - ^
00:27:795 (2,3) - ^
00:33:766 (1,2) - ^ (I'm not going to point out more of these)
00:21:824 (1,1,2) - remove overlap (new players can't read overlaps)
01:05:513 (2,1) - ^
00:41:630 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - remove all unnecessary overlaps in this section
00:53:572 (3,4,1) - distance snap
00:54:737 (1,2) - blanket
01:22:698 (1,2,3) - too hard to read. 02:37:261 (1,2,3) this is better.
02:49:494 (1,2,3,4,5) - would look better if symmetrical
03:04:348 (4,5) - make these parallel
03:09:882 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - remove all unnecessary overlaps in this section, add more blankets.

[Easy]
00:20:659 (3,1) - 1 1/2 rhythm is unintuitive at this level, find a better way to express this rhythm.
01:35:222 (3,1) - ^
01:44:543 (2,1) - ^
00:49:785 (1,2) - make these rotationally symmetrical
01:19:203 (1) - slider shape is too confusing for new players, esp. with reverse.
01:26:193 (2,3) - make these parallel
01:55:319 (1,2,3) - this pattern looks untidy, maybe find a way to blanket
02:18:038 (3,1,2) - ^
02:01:144 (2,1) - remove overlap
02:33:766 (1,1,2) - ^
03:13:377 (1,1,2) - ^


Gl with your map!
Topic Starter
UniqueBlock11

Mking wrote:

Hey there M4M from my modding queue ~ heyyyy
[Insane]
00:26:339 (4,5) - blanket is off (ending anchor needs to be fixed)
00:39:300 (4) - move to x96 y184 ? (to make the 2 sliders fit into eachother more)
01:10:319 (3) - ctrl g for flow?
01:33:766 (9) - NC to mark the SV change
02:09:300 (1,2,3) - move 2 up to get a more straight line pattern here? moved (1) slider repeat because it looks a bit neater
02:37:552 (2,3,4) - are these supposed to be the same sliders? cause 3 feels a little bit off probably doesn't look parallel... i recreated the slider

[Hard]
00:18:766 (4,5) - why are these 2 spaced so close when everything else is spaced further? maybe space it more :p
00:21:533 (1,2) - blanket is a bit off
00:51:533 (3) - this is only a hard diff so flow like this is something I wouldnt recommend doing, its only 3.3 stars sure, moved (3) further to the left so that it's visible
03:01:727 (3,4) - move 4 more to 3 cause its overlapped more with the next object
03:04:057 (3,4) - have these spaced the same as ^
03:13:378 (1) - ctrl g for flow

[Normal]
00:33:183 (1) - ctrl g? in Normal diffs sliders should face the next object
02:18:620 (1) - ctrl g? looks ok to me. seems to follow a flow from the top to the bottom
02:18:620 (1,2) - blanket
The difficulty name my need to be changed to "advanced" cause this is way harder than a regular normal diff

Im not good at Easy diffs myself so I'll end it here xD its cool :arrow:
Hope I helped and GL! thanks for the mod!
Renquiem
Hello Hello~
From M4M

First thing I noticed was the Purple slider edges. Don't you think these are a little hard to read with a dimmed background?

00:12:212 (3,4,5,1) - Object 3 doesn't quite lead into the triple. Push the triple down or nudge object 3 up?
00:15:562 (2,1) - Could be stacked
00:25:028 (2) - Possible to blanket The slider head.
00:26:193 (1,2) - Slider tail pointed a bit to high?
00:27:212 (1,2,3,4,5) - For a hard diff this may prove a bit to much. 1/2 sliders would do.
00:33:183 (1,2,3), 00:35:513 (1,2,3), 00:36:970 (3,4,5) - your triple spacing has been very variable. I suggest choosing a certain distance and sticking to it for a Hard diff.
00:40:756 (1,2,3,4) - Stick to either triples or now single tap jumps
00:44:688 (4,1) - could stack
00:47:018 (2,3) - For hard, should lead off slider end.
00:48:329 (1,2,1) - We'll call this issue spacing for now
00:51:096 (2,3) - Spacing
00:51:824 (4,5,1) - Spacing
00:52:989 (2,3,1,2,3) - Spacing
01:07:844 (1,2,3) - Triangle could be improved... But spacing :/ (Use the shape tool ctrl+shift+D)
01:08:717 (1) - Nudge a bit to the right for better blanket
01:12:795 (6,7,1,2,3,4) - Spacing
01:15:708 (1,2,3) - triangle could be improved, spacing
01:17:164 (2,3,4) - spacing
01:18:620 (2,3,1) - Spacing
01:20:659 (2) - Spacing
01:21:533 (2,3,4) - Spacing

So I think you get the spacing issue by now. For hard, you should decide if they are to be triples or single taps. personally I think they should stay as triples throughout the map. I'll stop listing these now and focus on other aspects of the map.

01:24:445 (3,3) - Could be stacked
01:28:232 (3,4,1) - Slider isn't quite in the middle nor perpendicular to the circles.
01:30:562 (1,2) - It might be better to stack object 1's slider head into the middle of object 2
01:43:086 (1,2) - Could be stacked
01:44:251 (2,1) - Could be stacked
01:50:659 (1,2) - They aren't quite parallel. If this is intentional, make it more apparent.
01:52:407 (6) - Improve blanket by enlarging the curve on this slider
01:57:649 (1,1) - Could be stacked
01:57:941 (2,4) - Could be stacked
01:58:814 (1,3) - Slightly not parallel
01:59:251 (2,3) - The follow point isn't quite parallel with object 3
02:02:892 (3,6,1) - Could be stacked
02:04:057 (6,7) - Not quite parallel
02:07:552 (3,4) - Not quite parallel
02:16:000 (4,2) - Could be stacked
02:22:552 (1,2,3,4,1) - Could improve the triangle?
02:23:281 (1,2) - Could be stacked
02:44:543 (2,4) - Could be stacked
03:01:727 (3,4,5,6) - When introduced to this rhythm, don't stack them. Use Time Distance Equality to show the player that they are 1/2, and not 1/1 notes
03:06:387 (1,2) - Could be stacked
03:06:678 (2,1) - Could be stacked
03:11:921 (1) - Follow point not quite parallel
03:13:086 (5) - Lower a little. Make follow point parallel
03:14:543 (1,2,3) - Might be better to make 2 be right inbetween? It's only half blanketed on object 1 :/
03:16:581 (3,1) - Blanket feels a little cramped

Honestly if you chose to go with single taps, this would be a pretty solid map. I loved the SV changes being subtle and not over used. however there are those small things than need to be adjusted. This mod took longer than I thought being 3:30 so I hope you understand if I only mod this difficulty >_< (My map[ is like 1 minute per diff...)
Fleure De Lapin
Hi~! ^^

From Team Frontline Modding Queue


Taiko

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General : Did kiai time is right? :\
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[Muzukashii]
I think this diff more like Oni than Muzukashii
02:51:678 (453,454) - Ctrl + G
02:54:009 (461,462) - ^
02:56:339 (470,471) - ^
02:58:669 (479,480) - ^
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[Oni]
I think this diff more like Inner Oni than Oni
00:16:581 (64,65) - delete? no sound here
00:25:902 (102,103) - ^
00:30:562 (126) - ^
00:32:892 (133) - ^
00:34:785 (140,141) - ^

00:52:407 (213) - remove finish plz. stream meet big circle
01:01:290 (246) - move to >> 01:00:999 -
01:57:212 (19) - delete
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Hope this will help :)
Good luck~! :)
tatatat
hi! C:
Topic Starter
UniqueBlock11
hello
Rhytoly
Hi,in M4M Q
HP 7 OD 3
02:26:484 dk I think this better
fine for me
HP 6 OD 4
fine for me too :)
HP 5 OD 5
00:56:678 and 00:56:873 add k
fine too
I think futsuu-oni this fine :)
just fix futsuu
good luck
Topic Starter
UniqueBlock11
lets hit the taiko mods first
hello everyone :3

Franklin_DeJavu wrote:

Hi~! ^^

From Team Frontline Modding Queue


Taiko

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General : Did kiai time is right? :\ was a bit worried that toggling Kiai on and off in Taiko would be distracting.
i'll change it

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[Muzukashii]
I think this diff more like Oni than Muzukashii
02:51:678 (453,454) - Ctrl + G
02:54:009 (461,462) - ^
02:56:339 (470,471) - ^
02:58:669 (479,480) - ^ these rhythms represents the clap and kick hitsounds, so i'll keep them the same
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[Oni]
I think this diff more like Inner Oni than Oni
00:16:581 (64,65) - delete? no sound here it flows pretty well into the stream. i'll wait for a response on that
00:25:902 (102,103) - ^ huh, someone said i was missing a vocal syllable. removed
00:30:562 (126) - ^ ^
00:32:892 (133) - ^ ^
00:34:785 (140,141) - ^ ^

00:52:407 (213) - remove finish plz. stream meet big circle
01:01:290 (246) - move to >> 01:00:999
01:57:212 (19) - delete
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Hope this will help :) yep, was helpful!
Good luck~! :) thanks!

Cocoaaa wrote:

Hi,in M4M Q
HP 7 OD 3 HP 7? whoa... OD 3 sounds fine though.
02:26:484 dk I think this better
fine for me
HP 6 OD 4 HP 6 is fine, not too sure about OD 4 though.
fine for me too :)
HP 5 OD 5 probably too little for oni
00:56:678 and 00:56:873 add k
fine too
I think futsuu-oni this fine :)
just fix futsuu
good luck thanks!
unmentioned = fixed. i'll hit the STD mods in a bit
Aloda
Hi, taiko M4M. This took a few days later than I thought it would, sorry :o

It looks like you've updated the map since I started writing this, so disregard any comments that are no longer applicable.

[Unrankable Issues]
There are several unrankable finishers in the map: 02:55:902 (469) - in the Muzukashii and 01:11:047 (292) - 01:43:669 (474) - 01:57:649 (22) - 02:02:309 (42) - 02:06:970 (64) - 02:25:610 (143) - 02:55:902 (301) and 03:00:562 (323) in the Oni.

[Futsuu]
00:09:882 (14) - feels really weird as a finisher. I suggest changing it to a regular note.

There are several notes throughout the map that aren't mapped to any sound (00:41:630 (66) - 00:45:416 (72) - 00:50:950 (83) - etc). Having notes like this is fine when using it to bridge between two distinct sounds, but using it like this, especially in a futsuu, feels very strange to play.

I really don't understand your use of SV here. You have reasonably large changes like 00:19:785 - when there's no dramatic change in the music, then at 00:57:067 - where you would expect the sv to start increasing there's a huge drop that makes no sense whatsoever. I recommend toning down your SV use and trying to consider flow and consistency more when using SV. The same goes for the other diffs.

The rest of this diff is pretty good. It's fairly repetitive, but that's fine for a song like this, and especially for a futsuu.

[Muzukashii]
Most of the time, muzukashii diffs will only use short (up to 5 notes long) 1/4 patterns, and usually only monocoloured patterns. Since the song is so slow, it's okay to have slightly more difficult patterns, like the dual-coloured doublets like at 00:01:581 - and 00:06:242 - but you've taken it way too far. The 1/4 triplets at 00:36:096 were hard enough before mixing them with 1/3 and bizarre SV at 00:54:737 - and then you have the 9-length patterns like 01:13:378 which are just too much for a muzu. You really need to simplify these patterns throughout the map to make it more appropriate for this difficulty level. That said, the overall structure is pretty good, so if you can fix the difficulty and SV, I think you'd have a pretty good diff here.

[Oni]
This diff is insanely overmapped. Like, this would still be overmapped even without the exorbitant 1/8 use throughout the map. There are tons of nonsense 1/4 patterns that are mapped to nothing like 00:02:601 - and 01:38:135. There are a few that compliment the vocals like 00:21:533 that are okay, but for the most part you really need to tone down the 1/4 use. As for the 1/8 you've used, remove all of it. I understand that there are 1/8 sounds there that you're mapping to, but these patterns are so out of line with what is reasonable to use in a map like this, and what feels good to play. Honestly, the only sections of this map that don't feel way over the top are 00:57:067 - 01:15:708 and 02:11:630 - 02:30:271.
Maxylan
Better late than never, hehe... But I'm back from my vacation and ready to mod!
NM From my "Modding Madness!" queue!

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Hard

Hehe, the tables have turned! When you did the video mod on my map this was the map you said was better, back then I didn't have time to mod this but now that I do, I won't go easy on you ;)
I know we settled the beef in my beat maps thread but I still got a little salt to get out of my system lol
[General]
It plays, really weirdly. I don't even know where to begin with this, the rhythm choices are questionable, distance is rarely emphasised because of distance snap, there are overlaps o' plenty, flow is off here and there, slider ends are on strong sounds. I mean if I wanted to I could just stop writing the mod right here and let you find all the problems listed above on your own but since I'm such a niceguy I'll point them out anyways :)
I ususally don't put my mods in boxes like this but since I knew this was going to a looong one I did it, enjoy ~

"Easy" and "Unamashi's Normal" has different drain time from all other diffs. 3.06 minutes and 3.08 minutes respectively while "Hard" and "Insane" has 3.07 minutes.
"Easy" is not an easy, it's a "Normal".
The song on all diffs should start here 00:01:145 -

[Rhythm choice]

00:09:882 (1,2,3) - "Sliders should start on strong sounds and end on sounds with equal or relatively less strength". The slider end is a passive note and should therefore not end on a sound that's better emphasised with something that's clickable. This is part of the Ranking Criteria Guidelines
00:15:708 (3) - ^^
00:18:911 (5) - ^^
00:23:717 (3) - ^^
00:33:475 (3) - ^^
00:40:756 (1) - ^^
00:43:523 (2) - ^^
00:45:416 (1) - ^^
00:57:358 (1) - ^^
01:10:319 (3) - ^^

00:12:649 (4,5) - 00:12:212 (3) - This slider doesn't end on a sound strong than its head, but rather it ends on a held vocal, since you map the vocal on (4,5) it's clear that you prioritize vocals hence making (3) ending on a sound that would be better emphasised with a clickable object like a circle or 1/4 slider.
00:12:649 (4,5) - Overmapped, (4) is a held sound and should therefore not be a burst, clicking on (5) is like clicking on nothing, like clicking on a sound in the song that doesn't even exist or vanished into the aether.

00:13:669 (4,1) - What's happening here?! For a start, the tiny sound on 00:14:251 - does not warrant making (1) a repeating slider. 00:14:543 (2) - This focus on vocals but both (4) and (1) don't because (4) ends on a strong vocal that (1) isn't mapping, and (2) is the exact same sound as 00:13:960 - yet mapped entirely opposite of (4). And (4)'s slider head starts on 00:13:669 - which is such an insignificant sound it's barely audible.

00:14:834 - Undermapped, if you wanted to capture the ticking sound here there should be a circle on yellow instead of the timegap, othervise with the low pitch of the sound people don't even know that 00:14:979 (3,4) - is following it, and once again it feels like the clicking the burst is like clicking nothing.
00:17:018 (4) - Exactly the same as 00:17:455 (1,2,3) - on all accounts other than histsounding, distance is the same, shape is the same, pattern is the same, even though (4) is a vocal sound that has absolutely nothing to do with (1, 2, 3). Adding a new combo is not enough to differ a sound if it's mapped the way it is.
00:27:212 (1) - Streams are quite uncomfortable in 103 BPM, but that's not a big problem because it's subjective, although what is a problem is that this stream follows no logic because even though it follows vocals it's inconsistant with the rest of the map that uses repeat sliders or regular sliders to emphasise the same thing and also it misses sounds worth emphasizing like 00:27:358 (2,3)
00:30:708 - Missed a sound. And the repeat arrow on a repeat slider is a passive note just like the slider end and should therefor not be used to emphasise 00:31:144
00:32:018 - Same, slider head has no sound while the repeat arrow emphasise the important sound.
00:33:620 - Vocal sound is on blue tick here.
00:34:348 - ^^
00:35:805 (3) - Held sound, also it's inconsistant with how you mapped it earlier here 00:17:018 (4)
00:47:455 (1,2,3) - Not only does (1) end on a strong vocal sound which you clearly should emphasise since you've been emphasising vocals only up until that but also the sound on (1) is very different from (2, 3) yet there is no distinction in the pattern used to show for that.
01:08:572 (4,5,1) - Don't know if I missed any but I think this is the first 1/8 beat-snap devisor burst used so far in the song, not only does it add inconsistency but it's also blatant over mapping, given that there ain't no sound worth emphasising on 01:08:644 (5) -, it's only a held sound on (4).
01:10:975 (6) - Wow okay, on this there actually is a sound, but if you couldn't tell this is so insignificant that it might as well be treated like a held sound once again from (5) instead of blatantly overmapping like this.
01:16:144 (3,1) - After reading everything I already mentioned above this is self explanatory, also I've mentioned this much and I'm only 36% through the entire song so I think this is a good a time as any to move on to the next topic!

[Aesthetics]

00:10:611 (2,2) - A few overlaps here and there for the sake of gameplay does not equal bad, but consistently overlapping almost all the time does equal bad. With more thought put behind object placements, a mapper can avoid overlaps almost altogether in most cases.
00:17:455 (1,3) - ^^
00:22:552 (1,3) - ^^
00:23:717 (3,4) - ^^
00:24:009 (4,1) - ^^
00:29:979 (3,4) - ^^
00:29:979 (3,4) - ^^
00:36:970 (3,4,1) - ^^
00:40:174 (2,3) - ^^
00:45:416 (1,3,1) - ^^
00:48:911 (1,2,1) - ^^
00:50:368 (2,2,3) - ^^
00:54:154 (3,3) - ^^
01:06:387 (1,3) - ^^

00:13:232 (3,4,1,2) - Overlap fiesta! Good thing I saw this because big clusters of objects overlapping each other are the worst offenders in terms of aesthetics/visuals which is similar to what I already mentioned above.
00:26:484 (2,1,2,3,1,2,1) - ^^
00:43:523 (2,3,4,5,1) - ^^
00:45:999 (3,2,3,2,3) - ^^
00:57:358 (1,2,3,1,2) - ^^
01:15:125 (1,3,1,3,4) - ^^

00:14:543 (2,3) - Stack slider end to slider head instead of overlapping.
00:15:562 (2,1) - Stack this as well.
00:16:290 (1,1) - ^^
00:28:523 (1,3) - ^^
00:39:300 (3,2) - ^^
00:42:358 (2,3) - ^^
00:50:950 (1,4) - ^^
00:51:096 (2,1) - ^^
01:14:543 (1,1) - ^^

00:15:125 (1,2) - Hard visual flow break, slider implies movement somewhere else even though with slider leniency abuse it doesn't break flow, regardless sliders should imply movement. This is also even more important for curved sliders.
00:21:533 (1,2) - ^^
00:28:523 (1,1) - ^^
00:40:174 (2,1) - ^^
00:45:416 (1,2) - ^^
00:49:494 (3,1) - ^^
00:52:407 (1,2) - ^^

00:25:028 (2,3) - You did a good job on blanketing, I couldn't find alot of blankets that where off but this is one of them.
00:18:911 (5) - And this one as well ^^
00:48:329 (1) - This should be moved to x267 y119 to be symmetrical with 00:47:455 (1)

Once again I'll stop at 36% into the song because as much as I love writing wall-of-text mods such as this it's taking forever and it's extremely unnecessary lol
Let's move on!

[Distance Snap]
Distance snap is a double edged sword in that it is both a massively helpful tool to give a map consistent spacing with time/distance equality, but the problem here lies that a song is never "monotone", meaning that different sounds stand out by having different volumes, pitches, and parts of the song always differs in intensity like the intro is usually not as rhythmically intense as the chorus, etc. I'm sure you've heard the word "Distance Emphasis" before, but if you havn't, let me tell you what it is.

"Distance Emphasis" is essentially the opposite of distance snap, meaning you put strain on a player by increasing distance between two objects depending on the intensity of the sound. Not only does this give off a satisfying psychological (aesthetic) response to the player but it also helps keep the map less stale and repetetive by adding a little bit of veriety, which is something this map lacks. Because around 90% of this map is distance snapped, I will only mention a few sounds that deserves more intense emphasis through distance, the rest is up to you to find.

00:21:533 (1) - Because SV on (1) is higher, distance between 00:21:533 (1,2) - should be increased to match said SV change.
00:26:193 (1,2) - ^^
00:10:611 (2,3) - Increase distance to emphasise sound on 00:11:047
00:11:921 (2,3) - Incre.. ^^ sound on 00:12:212
00:12:722 (5,1) - ^^ 00:12:795
00:12:795 (1,2) - ^^ 00:13:086
00:13:378 - sound on..
You get the idea.

Also while we're on the topic of distance, the low distance snap couppled with the wierd movements/angles makes the map extremely iffy to play, because at parts like 00:12:212 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - and 00:09:882 (1,2,3) - where you take all these factors into account movement is very odd.

More on that here!

[Gameplay and Object placements]

00:09:882 (1,2,3) - What is going on here? Too many uncomfortable movements.. (See picture "1" in the bottom of this post)*
00:15:125 (1,2,3) - ^^
00:15:708 (3,1,2) - ^^


00:12:649 (4,5,1) - 00:14:979 (3,4,1) - Bursts at 1/8 beatsnap divisor doesn't fit at all with the rest of the song. And most of the time they don't even serve a purpose because, like I already mentioned in the rhythm section of this mod, the sound they emphasise is so insignificant.
00:18:766 (4,5) - Takes me back to what I already mentioned but distance here is so tiny, even tinier than what was previously used 00:17:892 (2,3) - which not only contradicts the distance snap you've been using up until that point but is the exact opposite of what should be used to clearly emphasise the sounds.
00:20:659 (2,1,2) - Avoid wide angles, not only does the angle it's currently at implying different movement but even if this was angled correctly it'd still break the flow. (See picture "2" in the bottom of this post)*
00:16:290 (1,2) - 00:25:028 (2,3) - While anti-jumps like these (which are frequently used) is not a bad thing, overuse of them is a bad thing because they put unnecessary strain on the player.
00:27:212 (1) - I already mentioned what I think of 103BPM streams but aside from that, it leads poorly into 00:27:941 (1,2)
00:28:523 (1,1) - This has the same distance as almost everything else yet it has a much bigger timegap, making this essentially a guaranteed 100/50 points or even combo breaker.
00:29:979 (3,4) - Awkward flow
00:30:853 (4,1,2) - ^^
00:35:513 (1,2,3) - Very unfomfortable to play mainly because of the flow break here 00:34:640 (2,1) -
00:38:135 (1,1) - When breaking flow try and use stationary movement, slow movement or linear movement, instead of breaking expectation like this. Although I wil ladmit because of the time gap I had no real issue playing this.
00:40:174 (2) - Flow break but done well because it follows linear movement, although what isn't done well is that this does not lead into 00:40:174 (2,1) - good at all and (1) the repeat slider actually breaks movement even more.
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[Summary]

Sorry for being a dick and sorry for being nit-picky but I can at least finally say we're square <3
Before you dismiss my highlights as unnecessary nit-pick just know that I only highlighted issues that are important and issues which the mapping community all can agree on. Also know that doing something on purpose doesn't make said thing good, for example, I can clearly see repeated elements in your song such as the anti-jumps or the distance snap but they could be done in a much better way and if they couldn't, I wouldn't point them out.

Regardless if you listen to what I say, sorry for this mod in advance, I wouldn't want to receive a mod this big and if I did I would be pissed, but I hope you learnt something!
Good luck getting this to ranked ~

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