1. Ayyri's Oni (3.73 stars, 414 notes)
2. Futsuu (2.14 stars, 213 notes)
3. Muzukashii (2.84 stars, 302 notes)
4. Noffy's Kantan (1.19 stars, 113 notes)

1. 00:33:652 (46) - delete?
   There is no break after this.
   It's the turn of the song so I think it's the most natural disappearance here.
   
   
2. 00:48:441 (68) - delete.
   No matter how slow BPM is, this flow is difficult.
   
   
3. 00:52:244 (74) - delete.
   I want break.
   
   
4. 01:12:525 (17) - delete.
   There is no break in kiai.
   
   
5. 01:13:793 (18) - move to 01:13:793 (18) - and change d.
   I think that taking a drum can express more clearly.

• I do not recommend using quintuplets in Futsuu.
  I write mod with emphasis on that.
  And even if it is Futsuu, a break is necessary.

1. 00:08:511 (24) - delete
2. 00:08:723 (25) - change k
   
   
3. 00:21:187 (58) - delete
4. 00:22:455 (63) - delete.
   
   
5. 00:30:061 (85) - delete
   
   
   00:33:864 (99) - delete.
   It is distinctive, how about putting quintuplets here only?
   00:32:807 (94,95,96,97,98) -
   
   
6. 00:37:666 (113) - delete.
7. 00:38:934 (117,118) - delete.
   
8. 00:44:427 (136) - delete
   
9. 00:51:821 (157,158) - delete.
   
10. 01:00:061 (177) - delete.
    
11. 01:03:441 (188) - delete.
    
12. 01:05:554 (195) - delete.
    Deleted because it may be a little hard to understand the rhythm.
    
13. 01:07:666 (203) - delete.
    
14. 01:10:624 (214) - delete.
    
15. 01:12:737 (221) - delete.
    
16. 01:14:004 (226) - delete.
    
17. 01:14:004 (226) - move to 01:14:638 - .
    
18. 01:17:807 (238) - delete.
    
19. 01:19:920 (246) - delete.
    
20. 01:21:610 (252) - delete.
    
21. 01:23:723 (260) - delete.
    
    There are more places to shave like this.
    Please think about how to represent with a minimum of Notes.

• It is too difficult.
  I think it is important to cut in some places.

1. 00:29:216 (122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136) -
   I recommend you cut it somewhere.
   
2. 00:58:159(244,245,246,247,248,249,250,251,252,253,254,255,256,257,258,259,260,261) -
   I think that triplet should be reduced
   
3. 01:03:441 (270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283) -
   Delete notes of vocal's missing
   
   01:12:525 (312,313,314,315,316,317,318,319,320,321,322,323,324,325,326,327) -
   I think that triplet should be reduced
   
   
4. 00:13:687 (50,51,59,60,68,69,82,83,120,121,137,138) -
   dk (kd) is not unrankeble, but it is safest not to use it.

1. 00:07:878 (27,28,29,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144) -
   
   You should make a break somewhere.

yuzu__rinrin wrote:

hi~ from my queue.
thanks M4M ~ ><

[Noffy's Kantan]

1. 00:33:652 (46) - delete?
   There is no break after this.
   It's the turn of the song so I think it's the most natural disappearance here.
   
   
2. 00:48:441 (68) - delete.
   No matter how slow BPM is, this flow is difficult.
   
   
3. 00:52:244 (74) - delete.
   I want break.
   
   
4. 01:12:525 (17) - delete.
   There is no break in kiai.
   
   
5. 01:13:793 (18) - move to 01:13:793 (18) - and change d. Think you meant 01:14:638 -
   I think that taking a drum can express more clearly.

[Futsuu]

• I do not recommend using quintuplets in Futsuu.
  I write mod with emphasis on that.
  And even if it is Futsuu, a break is necessary.

1. 00:08:511 (24) - delete
2. 00:08:723 (25) - change k
   
   
3. 00:21:187 (58) - delete
4. 00:22:455 (63) - delete.
   
   
5. 00:30:061 (85) - delete
   
   
   00:33:864 (99) - delete.
   It is distinctive, how about putting quintuplets here only?
   00:32:807 (94,95,96,97,98) -
   
   
6. 00:37:666 (113) - delete.
7. 00:38:934 (117,118) - delete.
   
8. 00:44:427 (136) - delete
   
9. 00:51:821 (157,158) - delete.
   
10. 01:00:061 (177) - delete.
    
11. 01:03:441 (188) - delete.
    
12. 01:05:554 (195) - delete.
    Deleted because it may be a little hard to understand the rhythm.
    
13. 01:07:666 (203) - delete.
    
14. 01:10:624 (214) - delete.
    
15. 01:12:737 (221) - delete.
    
16. 01:14:004 (226) - delete.
    
17. 01:14:004 (226) - move to 01:14:638 - .
    
18. 01:17:807 (238) - delete.
    
19. 01:19:920 (246) - delete.
    
20. 01:21:610 (252) - delete.
    
21. 01:23:723 (260) - delete.
    
    There are more places to shave like this.
    Please think about how to represent with a minimum of Notes.

[Muzukashii]

• It is too difficult.
  I think it is important to cut in some places.

1. 00:29:216 (122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136) -
   I recommend you cut it somewhere.
   
2. 00:58:159(244,245,246,247,248,249,250,251,252,253,254,255,256,257,258,259,260,261) -
   I think that triplet should be reduced
   
3. 01:03:441 (270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283) -
   Delete notes of vocal's missing
   
   01:12:525 (312,313,314,315,316,317,318,319,320,321,322,323,324,325,326,327) -
   I think that triplet should be reduced
   
   
4. 00:13:687 (50,51,59,60,68,69,82,83,120,121,137,138) -
   dk (kd) is not unrankeble, but it is safest not to use it.

I previously removed all of the dk's except the ones that were pronounced and not assumed, but I'll remove these too
[Inner Oni]

1. 00:07:878 (27,28,29,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144) -
   
   You should make a break somewhere.

Break'ded


Futsuu and Muzukashii may need many modders.

Good luck.

MBmasher wrote:

hi, from your m4m q

Noffy's Kantan

00:03:238 (5) - d
00:14:224 (21) - k
00:32:815 - 00:34:083 seems like the perfect opportunity for a slider

Futsuu

00:06:618 (15) - k nah
00:32:815 - 00:34:083 might be better as a slider? (just opinion) it's that way for spread, slider to 1/4 usage isn't very nice.
00:48:026 (116) - d nah

Muzukashii

00:19:294 (61,62,63) - kkd changed that one to kkddk
01:26:477 (1) - seems better to just do this https://i.imgur.com/PIqHaVK.png sure

Ayyri's Oni

00:06:618 (22) - k she says no

General

00:00:000 - 00:07:463 Compare this section in muzu and oni diff, there's not much of a difference. Best choice seems to be nerf muzu there's enough of a difference for the spread.

Nice mapset, good luck!

MBmasher wrote:

Noffy's Kantan

00:03:238 (5) - d sure
00:14:224 (21) - k no, b/c 00:14:224 (21,22) - 00:15:914 (23,24) - are supposed to be cute matchy patterns
00:32:815 - 00:34:083 seems like the perfect opportunity for a slider sure, plays cute

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Stingy wrote:

[Noffy's Kantan]

1. One of the first things I notice about this difficulty is that it doesn't match the other difficulties. All the other difficulties have the same exact beginning. I am 100% okay with variety, but I honestly believe that since it's in ALL the difficulties, this one should match. (This isn't even relevant ;'v).

Noffy wrote:

Stingy wrote:

[Noffy's Kantan]

1. One of the first things I notice about this difficulty is that it doesn't match the other difficulties. All the other difficulties have the same exact beginning. I am 100% okay with variety, but I honestly believe that since it's in ALL the difficulties, this one should match. (This isn't even relevant ;'v).

i'm confused what you mean, the difficulties dont have the same exact beginning, this difficulty largely matches up as a simpler version of what futsuu has
?_?

Stingy wrote:

[Futsuu]

1. 00:07:252 - Add a note here to keep the spread even. yup
   
   Pic

   
2. 00:17:815 - This is currently the only difficulty with this note mapped. The issue I have with this is that it's a lower difficulty. changed stuff

[Muzukashii]

1. One of the first things I notice about this difficulty is that it doesn't match the other difficulties. All the other difficulties have the same exact beginning. I am 100% okay with variety, but I honestly believe that since it's in ALL the difficulties, this one should match. (This isn't even relevant ;'v).
2. 00:24:576 - Move this back 1/2 to the downbeat. Currently, this is the only diff with this sound mapped and is ALSO the only diff that skips the downbeat.
   
   Pic

   
   also changed stuff included what was mentioned

[Ayyri's Oni]

1. 00:27:956 - Why not map this? I do agree if you respond with "GD = Different style" though.
2. 00:34:505 - Here, you only map the claps. I can see why, too. The reason I'm pointing this out is that the Muzu has some d's mapped out to it as well. These particular patterns make this section of the Muzu more dense than your diff, which is supposed to be more dense than the Muzu.
3. 00:55:843 (245,247) - I think having these a finishers would help with the intensity of this section (Like in the Muzu).

Realazy wrote:

hello i'm uh hi

[Noffy's Kantan]

00:40:421 (55) - consider having a k here instead to follow the higher pitched guitar?
00:50:139 (69) - i think this would make more sense if it was placed at 00:50:984 - because of the clicky noise, and i guess the vocal sound slightly stronger here
01:01:548 - kiai feels a bit weak tbf, it barely feels more intense to play than the chorus, i suggest you add some 4 or even 5 note patterns to make it denser
01:07:886 - 01:21:407 - these for example could be mapped and feel pretty nice to play since you'd follow the vocals as closely as possible here, and it'd still remain playable for most people as it's a pretty slow song

[Futsuu]

00:17:181 (40,41) - these two notes feel kinda out of place imo, you're mapping pretty faint sounds and it only makes the next pattern harder to play as it's pretty dense for a futsuu already, though i guess an exception could be made for 00:17:393 (41) - as it's following vocals, but even then they aren't strong at all and are overshadowed by the vocals + synth on the downbeat I feel like these feel out of place because of the pattern before them, so I added some notes to the vocal mapping before this point to make it more consistent
00:20:139 (49) - unnecessary but i think it'd feel great to play if this note was deleted because there are only 2 prominent guitar notes, and having 3 notes kinda takes that feel away, even though you can't really map the other note since it's on a blue tick yeah it's a simplification
00:40:421 (104) - how about k here due to the higher pitched guitar? it would add some nice contrast with 00:40:843 (105) - too since that note is lower pitched than the other one i mentioned sure
01:08:308 (164,165) - i really suggest having another 1/2 triple here, it would emphasize the "kanashii"much more than the other lyrics in that pattern, and would make the kiai slightly harder than the rest of the map which is good for contrast imo, same would apply for 01:21:829 (198,199) - emphasis important, yeas

[Muzukashii]

my main concern with that diff is that it often seems like you're trying to follow too many things at once and it ends up sounding like a mess, i'll point some stuff that could be deleted to follow the song better imo

00:23:519 (79) - this feels unnecessary considering how dense your patterns are due to the vocals, and it takes a lot of the emphasis away from the vocals because you're mapping another instrument tp fill a gap that isn't too long yes
00:23:731 (80,81,82,83,84,85,86) - try using ddkkdkd here, fits the voice pitch much better imo sure
00:25:421 (87,88,89,90,91,92) - again, i think dkdkdk feels a bit bland here when you could've had some spicier patterns to follow the pitch, i personally feel like dkkdkd would fit that better and be more interesting to play uhuh
01:12:111 (258,259) - might be a good idea to delete either of those to have at least one 2/1 break in the kiai, since it's very dense for the most part
01:13:590 (264,265) - or you could delete those two instead yes

[Ayyri's Oni]

00:41:266 - how about making this part dons only until 00:46:336 - ? could contrast nicely with the "kanashii" part and give more emphasis on those 4 finishers at the end she said yes congrats

how do i mod this diff wtf it's too good

Realazy wrote:

hello i'm uh hi

[Noffy's Kantan]

00:40:421 (55) - consider having a k here instead to follow the higher pitched guitar? ok ovob
00:50:139 (69) - i think this would make more sense if it was placed at 00:50:984 - because of the clicky noise, and i guess the vocal sound slightly stronger here don't really hear what you mean here, they sound roughly the same to me, and what is currently there is more fitting with how the kantan rhythm is structured overall
01:01:548 - kiai feels a bit weak tbf, it barely feels more intense to play than the chorus, i suggest you add some 4 or even 5 note patterns to make it denser dont really see why i should, even though it's more like, open/bouncier, it's not particularly more rhythmically intense than the verses
01:07:886 - 01:21:407 - these for example could be mapped and feel pretty nice to play since you'd follow the vocals as closely as possible here, and it'd still remain playable for most people as it's a pretty slow song uhh i'd rather not since futsuu doesnt map those D:

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Stefan wrote:

[Kantan]
00:15:914 (23,24) - maybe change them to kat so they have some slight differences from 00:14:224 (21,22) - . similar but different. cute! changed ~
00:34:505 - to 00:46:336 - and 00:48:026 - to 00:54:787 - density-wise it is irrlogical and would be better to swap the structure (having a break after 00:51:407 (71) - , etc). I did it like this because I want the repeated kanashiis and ureshiis to have equal strength, rather than some randomly having more than others, and with notes following the guitars when those vocals stop for more density and variety.. confused by what you mean about the break after (71) though.

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Stefan wrote:

[Muzukashii]
00:08:942 (28) - despite of the BPM I don't think the combo chain does have to be so long. That note could be removed but alternatively other note(s) you would prefer. Main idea here is to split the lenght.
00:12:322 (39) - ^
00:22:041 (73) - ^
00:24:364 (82) - ^ since the vocals hold a bit at 00:24:153 (81) - so the skip here sounds pretty. good points, removed
00:30:280 (105,106) - might remove (106) and change (105) to don so 00:30:703 (107) - as kat note is much stronger in the emphasis. changed the end of the pattern to kdk, if I made it d_k, that contradict the vocal pitches.
00:32:815 (115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122) - instead of using triplets in a part that mainly works as stream, use a drumslider instead. it's imo a much better idea just from the gameplay. yeah this was here originally to be fair spread for the inner oni that was deleted
00:38:308 (138) - preferably remove since you don't have a break phase for a longer time. found it better to remove 00:39:048 (129,130) - and just map d_k_d d_k_d
00:45:069 (161) - ^
00:51:407 - 00:54:364 - these two combo chains might also get a slight nerf in their lenght by own discretion. removed second note of each
01:21:618 (298) - Like the examples above the combo chain is quite long so removing this note is highly recommened.removed a note to separate vocals

[Futsuu]
00:16:336 (42,43) - Might want to change one of them as kat note, any of them works. I like this being in contrast to 00:14:646 - which is a higher pitch using kd, so this is dd to represent that.
00:45:069 (121) - How comes you've put a note here? I would just skip it like 00:38:308 - has been skipped. removed
01:12:111 (178) - What about moving the note to 01:11:266 - ? This is more consistent to what you're following related to the vocals for the entire difficulty. moved

[Kantan]
00:15:914 (23,24) - maybe change them to kat so they have some slight differences from 00:14:224 (21,22) - .
00:34:505 - to 00:46:336 - and 00:48:026 - to 00:54:787 - density-wise it is irrlogical and would be better to swap the structure (having a break after 00:51:407 (71) - , etc).

Stefan wrote:

[Futsuu]
00:32:815 (87,88,89,90,91,92) - preferably just replace it with a drumslider like muzukashii does have one. she doo
00:38:731 (104) - and 00:52:252 (138) - might remove for 4/1 breaks.removed the second point because removing the first would create a spread issue between kantan and futsuu, since the kantan uses a 1/1 pattern where you said to use a 4/1 break in the futsuu.
01:14:857 (184) - move it instead to 01:14:435 - , sounds cooler and fits better to the guitar approach.this is correct

Stefan wrote:

[Kantan]
00:38:308 (51,52) - would remove them for a consistent 4/1 break like you did for 00:52:252 - . ok \o/
ye

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128,96,42111,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,42956,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,43802,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,44646,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,45068,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,45491,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,46336,1,4,0:0:0:0:
128,96,46758,1,12,0:0:0:0:
128,96,47181,1,4,0:0:0:0:
128,96,48026,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,48872,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,49717,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,50139,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,50562,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,51407,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,53097,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,53942,1,8,0:0:0:0:
384,96,54787,1,12,0:0:0:0:
384,96,56477,5,4,0:0:0:0:
384,96,57323,1,12,0:0:0:0:
256,160,58167,2,0,L|256:256,13,70
384,96,61548,5,12,0:0:0:0:
128,96,62393,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,63238,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,64083,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,64928,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,65350,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,65773,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,66618,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,67040,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,67463,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,68308,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,69153,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,69998,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,70421,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,70844,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,71688,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,73379,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,74224,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,74646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,96,75069,1,12,0:0:0:0:
128,96,75914,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,76759,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,77604,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,78449,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,78871,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,79294,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,80139,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,80561,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,80984,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,81829,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,82674,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,83519,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,83942,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,84365,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,96,85209,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,86054,1,8,0:0:0:0:
384,96,86900,1,4,0:0:0:0:
128,96,87322,1,12,0:0:0:0: