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Ranked map please, so cool.
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now this is a real map
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https://puu.sh/xpXAC/05ebc5deb8.zip

sorry this took so long! (hs copied from high diff)
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Hello Hello~
M4M

00:09:594 (1,2,3,4) - Move 1 in a bit closer so objects 1 and 2 are a reflection of 3 and 4
00:17:177 (3) - Making this an NC might help with warning the player that there is a pause
00:52:964 (5) - Move i tick left and up to better fit... stream? Line? I dunno XD
02:49:505 (2) - Just wondering if that tiny little curve is intentional
00:22:366 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - The first two back and forths seem to be parallel however the 3rd once is a bit tilted downwards.
00:23:164 (1,2,3,4,5) - triple faces upwards a little to be parallel.
00:59:417 (6,7,8,1) - Currently the stream is leading more to the left rather than into the kick slider. Might be best to move object 8 inwards a little bit
01:43:784 (1,2) - Same issue as before
01:44:316 (1) - This is a NC this time compared to before?
02:15:448 (5) - I don't quite think the edged stream belongs here. While faint the swap into eight note piano part occurs on the prior red tick. tldr the edge of this stream might fit better if it was where 02:15:315 (3) is?
02:24:228 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Did you convert a catmul slider here by accident? Looks a little crooked with some uneven spacing.
03:27:354 (14,15,16) - A little flat compared to the prior patterns? Bring Object 15 down a few ticks
03:32:543 (4,5) - A little jagged compared to the rest of the stream?
03:46:711 (1) - Might it be better to place there where another 1/4 slider head would have gone?
03:51:634 (11,12) - Seem a little to low to lead into the next pattern
03:51:833 (14,15) - Burst has slightly different spacing in the middle here


Wowie those streams! Sorry I couldn't catch to much. I guess that goes to show how well done it already is? lol
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even if this one get ranked, maybe I can only spectating ppl's play
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;) the origins of FOUR DIMENSION lol
m4m from ur q

Enon's Easy

  1. 01:12:388 (1,2) - The distance between (1)'s tail and (2)'s slide looks too close... it makes me feels claustrophobia xd I've checked the whole diff and I didn't found any notes as close as this one. I know the spacing between (2)'s head and (1)'s tail wasn't wrong, but maybe you can consider about their visualization too. Something like this maybe ?
  2. 02:00:015 (2) - clap ?
  3. 02:01:346 (1,2) - also clap on their tail (feels empty without it and to keep consistency with 02:03:474 (1,2) - ).
  4. 02:06:667 (2,3,2,3,3,2,3) - At least give whistles on the click points to indicate that the note was clicked. Hitsound is important for soft sample in Easy diff so new players know that they clicked the note. As we know, soft-hitnormal(default) sound is (almost) not audible. Maybe it's okay if we used skins, but new players usually use the default skin right ?
  5. 02:36:468 (2,2) - same as above
  6. 02:40:725 (2) - Maybe you can use finish here instead of whistle I said before, I heard a cymbal there.
  7. 02:42:321 (2) - again whistle.
  8. 03:09:461 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - For here maybe you can apply the whistles for every soundable notes (such as circles, heads and tails) since the note pattern is a bit complex with those 1/2 beat placement. whistles on the tails are to indicate that the slider was ended on red tick or white tick instead.
  9. 03:25:958 (3) - clap on the tail ?
  10. 03:29:683 (2,3) - same as above.
  11. 03:47:244 (3) - also same as above.

    mostly about hitsounds xd nice flow btw ><

Beom's Normal

  1. 00:06:135 (2,3,4) - I see you used "0.9x" for the main distance spacing. But only for this point, you used "1.0x" distance spacing. Keeping them consistent is important since it's a Normal diff.
  2. 00:16:512 (1) - Is this NC really needed ? There's nothing has a "wow" effect on the notes. Same to 00:25:026 (1) - . Even if it was intentional, this short combo doesn't really fit to Normal diff.
  3. 00:26:623 (1) - Not really sure if this slider is long enough to provide 2 reverses. It may makes the players confuse. And also the sound in the song on the reverse points is not strong enough to be a "notes". How about using a long sliderart here instead ?
  4. 00:28:485 (2,1) - You're mapping a Normal diff. Jumps are forbidden.
  5. 01:07:332 (2,3,4,1) - This notes is a bit confusing. Those 1/2 notes and pattern plus the similar spacing between 01:07:598 (3,4,1) - seems a bit hard to read. Players may click 01:08:130 (1) - first instead of 01:07:731 (4) - . Maybe at least you can make 01:07:598 (3,1) - not touching each other. Like this maybe ? also the same for 01:15:847 (2,3,4,1) -
  6. 02:17:576 (5,6) - I think the slider deserve to be earlier than the circle...something like this. With that way, it would follow both drum and piano better. And also it would be easier to catch in game play.
  7. 03:36:601 (3) - 2 reverses on a 1/2 slider... it's even harder to realize than the one I mentioned before. And also I didn't see you used this 2 reverses in the whole diff instead of this one. Maybe you can use two 1/2 slider instead ?

Hard


  • nice half-bpm mapping xd
  1. 00:01:080 (1) - Not really sure if this 2 reverses slider is acceptable, even for a Hard diff. I see you followed the drum for this slider. How about using only 1 reverse and add 2 circles on 00:02:277 - with 1/2 gap ? The drum on 00:02:277 - is starting to be different than before so that way looks reasonable enough. Also applied for 00:03:208 (1,1) - .
  2. 00:23:430 (1,2) - I know it's fine since it was a half-bpm mapping, but somehow this 2 reverses sliders still bother me xd
  3. 00:24:893 (2,1,2,3) - I think we need to be consistent here. the emphasis in the song on 00:25:026 - and 00:25:558 - are similar but you put a jump on 00:24:893 (2,1) - and not on 00:25:425 (2,3) - .
  4. 00:48:441 (3) - Did the song really plays on 1/4 point ? I heard both piano and drum are clearly play on the white tick.
  5. 01:45:381 (1,2,3,4,5) - This 1/2 spacing feels really "sudden". I think the gap between slider tails and the circle was 1 beat when I see it at first. Maybe you can reduce its spacing ? or at least the spacing between slider tails and circles.
  6. 02:01:346 (1,2) - Also the similar problem about spacing. Their spacing is closely similar to the previous 1 beat gap spacing. Maybe you can shorten 02:01:346 (1) - into a 1 beat slider so 02:01:346 (1,2) - can be similar to 02:02:410 (3,1) - .

Insane

  1. 00:01:080 (1) - Yeah this 2 reverses problem again like I mentioned on hard diff xd
  2. 00:46:445 (3) - Maybe you can give NC for this SV change ? And also unstack it from 00:46:312 (2) - ... movement stop still can indicate that the slider SV isn't changed.
  3. 01:14:516 (1) - Clap doesn't really fit to its tail since the right point to put the clap was on the white tick. Maybe you want to keep the 2 beat claps pattern on this part, but misplacing it would make it feels worse. But if you really want to keep the clap so bad, maybe you can use this pattern instead and you can put the clap on the circle.
  4. 01:43:252 (1,2) - Yup and here again xd . maybe you can apply something like 01:45:381 (1,2,3,4) - , they play nicely.
  5. 02:02:942 (4) - Like I said on 01:14:516 (1) - .
  6. 03:23:297 (1,2) - Following the previous movement, I think their gap was 1/2 but it's not ;w; . Maybe you can add a circle on 03:23:696 - like 03:40:725 (2) - ? stacked on 03:23:829 (2) - 's head would be good. Also the same for 03:31:811 (1,2) -

RLC's Another

  1. 02:13:319 (3,4) - Since you mainly follow the piano here, it feels a bit weird to ignore it here. Maybe you want to give a transition from piano to drum, but I think using 02:13:851 (5) - is enough. And also still using soft sampleset on it make it deserve more to follow the piano.
    ok cool as expected xd

Another

  1. 01:48:574 - I think I remember someone used this pattern before :3

4 - D / ∞ - D

  1. 01:48:574 - I remember this one too xd

That's all from me~
sorry I can't mod two highest diff... out of my catch ability ;w;



~waiting for Cookiezi HDHR~
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awesome map
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From the modding Q

Enon's Easy

  1. 00:55:359 (1,2,3,4) - too many 1/1 sliders for a new player to handle, especially at this high of a BPM?
  2. 03:10:658 (2,1) - That red tick slider surprised me to be honest. Are you sure new players can follow those sliders perfectly?
  3. 03:43:519 (1) - move to x:388 y:148 (and adjust the sliders after that one based on distance-time if you do decide to move it ofc)?

Beom's Normal

  1. 00:45:913 (1,2,3,4) - stream starting on red tick without auditory cues? Are you sure players can follow those?
  2. 02:17:709 (6) - Are you sure newer players can follow the rhythm on this part?
  3. 03:36:601 (3) - More than 1 reverse arrows?

    Flow on this diff seems a bit off, some of the objects don't follow conventional flow, which can be troubling for new players

Hard

  1. 00:22:366 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I know this is half bpm mapping, but are 1/2 streams more than 5 notes fine this way at
    this tempo? Especially that you have lots of these in this difficulty, so I won't address all of them
  2. 02:36:911 (5) - Map slider on white tick and make it a 1/1 slider instead?
  3. 02:39:040 (5) - Same as above
  4. 02:50:303 (1) - Map sliderend on 02:50:747 instead?
  5. 03:19:838 (1) - At this AR, players tend to look at 03:20:104 (1) instead of 03:19:838 (1). Move that circle to the upper quadrant of the grid to make visuals more intuitive?
  6. 03:44:583 (5,6) - Players might assume these sliders are the same, so they might release at the reverse arrow and miss the sliderend. Would recommend making the reverse slider different.

Insane

  1. 03:23:297 (1,2,3) - Maybe do something like this instead?

  2. 04:00:547 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - kinda spiked the difficulty since they were put at the very end oh the diff, where more slower streamers can probably fail at.
    Would recommend breaking it down to a burst of 5 notes instead?

RLC's Extra


  • slider structure isn't that clean but aside from that I have no complaints :)

Another

  1. 00:28:086 (7,8) - change to kickslider instead?

∞D

  1. 02:36:645 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Isn't it weird to represent 12/8 triples with groups of 2? I would honestly recommend triplets mapped like 02:39:660 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) to represent the music better but that's just my opinion. If you did it for 321 countdown nostalgia then maybe?

    flow on those drugged Hanzer streams are a bit iffy but it's fine imo

Hope this mod helps! Apologies if it doesn't though. Kind of a new mapper and modder here, so my opinion might be bunk.
Excellent mapset! Looking forward to seeing this in ranked category :D
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hello! trying m4m here, sorry if I couldn't help much (no ranked map :o )

[Easy]
you sure to put this many slider? how about breaking some to circles and not make a slider every downbeat

[Normal]
not sure if normal diff allow red beat circles, especially on a fast songs, example:
00:06:268
00:07:232
00:10:525
and so on...

00:16:379 and 00:16:911 these 2 red beats is kinda hard, how about removing one of them?
same like 00:24:893 and 00:25:425 and other same patterned beat

00:28:485 reverse instead of circle?

overall... it looks hard even for a normal, maybe I'm just a noob at fast bpm and reds

[Hard]
how about making 00:12:787 same pattern like 00:10:658? the music sounds the same there anyway
00:24:494 (1,2) spacing, intentional? the next one too
01:07:066 (1) break these to 1/2 slider x4 to make it the same like previous pattern (01:05:470)


can't mod harder diff lol, sorry

everything looks well done already
thanks and GL!
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@Blizs
all fixed, I was mad

ScubDomino wrote:

From the modding Q

Beom's Normal

  1. 00:45:913 (1,2,3,4) - stream starting on red tick without auditory cues? Are you sure players can follow those? - I'm sure
  2. 02:17:709 (6) - Are you sure newer players can follow the rhythm on this part? - fixed
  3. 03:36:601 (3) - More than 1 reverse arrows? - fixed

    Flow on this diff seems a bit off, some of the objects don't follow conventional flow, which can be troubling for new players - well D^: I just believe that it's pretty fine

CPLs wrote:

hello! trying m4m here, sorry if I couldn't help much (no ranked map :o )

[Normal]
not sure if normal diff allow red beat circles, especially on a fast songs, example:
00:06:268
00:07:232
00:10:525
and so on...

00:16:379 and 00:16:911 these 2 red beats is kinda hard, how about removing one of them?
same like 00:24:893 and 00:25:425 and other same patterned beat

00:28:485 reverse instead of circle?

overall... it looks hard even for a normal, maybe I'm just a noob at fast bpm and reds

yea this is hard to call Normal, if it's a 'common' song.
I didn't want to make it easily...
that reds are..... I don't know well. maybe these things are allowed (wtf)
if it's not, I just can modify it lol
osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 125603
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

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DistanceSpacing: 0.9
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.2

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Title:Glorious Crown
TitleUnicode:Glorious Crown
Artist:xi
ArtistUnicode:xi
Creator:Nakagawa-Kanon
Version:Beom's Normal
Source:maimai PiNK
Tags:Evolved Chronicles RLC Beomsan Enon
BeatmapID:1375472
BeatmapSetID:640394

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CircleSize:3.8
OverallDifficulty:4.6
ApproachRate:5
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posted
I fixed some moded part but i can't write log. sorry. recently, I'm working hard every day, It is unreasonable in my state to write down the reasons for the fixing and the reason for not fixing it. please understand me. T.T
posted
hi, m4m here

  1. maybe name easy "normal" and normal "advanced"?


easy:
  1. 00:12:787 (2) - 00:21:302 (2) - 00:39:394 (1) - offscreen on 800x600
  2. 00:40:458 (2,1) - i don't think you should overlap slidertick
  3. 00:52:964 (4,2) - these touching not nice, noticable while playing
  4. 01:09:195 (2) - 02:16:246 (1) - 03:41:390 (1) - maybe avoid touching hp bar?
  5. 01:57:088 (1,2,3) - blanket could be imroved

    This diff mostly consists of sliders which deem to be difficult for beginners, perhaps add some circles somewhere?


normal:
  1. even if its technically can be deemed as normal, its quite obvious that its not, rc written for ~180 bpm, sv choice is high for this bpm as hell to be considered as "normal", perhaps name it "advanced"?
  2. 00:41:523 (1,2) - blanket could be improved
  3. 00:50:037 (1,2) - maybe change slidertick to 2 so these things are distinct from each other?


hard:
  1. 02:12:720 (5,6,7) - its not quite obvious what are you followint there because previous objects landed on drums, perhaps make rhythm clearer?
  2. 02:13:519 (7) - rhythm seems like mess because of this skipped beat
  3. 02:53:496 (4) - didn't quite get whys there a reverse (02:55:625 (4) - there its quite obvious)
posted

Blizs wrote:

Enon's Easy

  1. 01:12:388 (1,2) - The distance between (1)'s tail and (2)'s slide looks too close... it makes me feels claustrophobia xd I've checked the whole diff and I didn't found any notes as close as this one. I know the spacing between (2)'s head and (1)'s tail wasn't wrong, but maybe you can consider about their visualization too. Something like this maybe ? fixed
  2. 02:00:015 (2) - clap ? added
  3. 02:01:346 (1,2) - also clap on their tail (feels empty without it and to keep consistency with 02:03:474 (1,2) - ). added
  4. 02:06:667 (2,3,2,3,3,2,3) - At least give whistles on the click points to indicate that the note was clicked. Hitsound is important for soft sample in Easy diff so new players know that they clicked the note. As we know, soft-hitnormal(default) sound is (almost) not audible. Maybe it's okay if we used skins, but new players usually use the default skin right ? fixed
  5. 02:36:468 (2,2) - same as above same as above
  6. 02:40:725 (2) - Maybe you can use finish here instead of whistle I said before, I heard a cymbal there. fixed
  7. 02:42:321 (2) - again whistle. fixed again
  8. 03:09:461 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - For here maybe you can apply the whistles for every soundable notes (such as circles, heads and tails) since the note pattern is a bit complex with those 1/2 beat placement. whistles on the tails are to indicate that the slider was ended on red tick or white tick instead. fixed
  9. 03:25:958 (3) - clap on the tail ? fixed ?
  10. 03:29:683 (2,3) - same as above. same as above
  11. 03:47:244 (3) - also same as above. also fixed as above

    mostly about hitsounds xd nice flow btw ><

ScubDomino wrote:

Enon's Easy

  1. 00:55:359 (1,2,3,4) - too many 1/1 sliders for a new player to handle, especially at this high of a BPM? it's really simple patten. i believe they will play it very well
  2. 03:10:658 (2,1) - That red tick slider surprised me to be honest. Are you sure new players can follow those sliders perfectly? there are the louder sounds on RED tick, not WHITE tick. so it will be easier to catch up for them.
  3. 03:43:519 (1) - move to x:388 y:148 (and adjust the sliders after that one based on distance-time if you do decide to move it ofc)? i don't know why :o

h4d0uk3n1 wrote:

easy:
  1. 00:12:787 (2) - 00:21:302 (2) - 00:39:394 (1) - offscreen on 800x600 there is no rule that is saying offscreen on 800x600 is unrankable. but i also think it was there. so i am not sure about this..
  2. 00:40:458 (2,1) - i don't think you should overlap slidertick i think i should do it for aesthetic.
  3. 00:52:964 (4,2) - these touching not nice, noticable while playing fixed
  4. 01:09:195 (2) - 02:16:246 (1) - 03:41:390 (1) - maybe avoid touching hp bar? fixed
  5. 01:57:088 (1,2,3) - blanket could be imroved fixed

    This diff mostly consists of sliders which deem to be difficult for beginners, perhaps add some circles somewhere? i really think i tried to make it easy to play for beginner and i still believe it is.
thank you for the moddings.

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Lel those pictures are so big. I see that watermark in the bottom right corner.

Enon's Easy

  1. 01:54:428 (3) - Remove the hit sound to keep consistency.
  2. 01:57:887 (2) - Add a whistle hit sound here like you did with 01:58:951 (4) - .
  3. 02:17:310 (2) - Maybe put a finish hit sound here since it's a powerful sound.
  4. 02:39:660 (1) - Put a finish hit sound here to keep consistency.
  5. 03:25:425 (2,3) - Put a clap hit sound on both slider ends to keep consistency.
  6. 03:42:454 (2) - Put a finish hit sound on the slider head here like you did with 03:33:940 (2) - .
  7. 03:53:097 (2) - Put a finish hit sound on the slider head.

Beom's Normal

  1. 00:01:745 (2) - Replace this slider with two circles that are two ticks forward so it makes more sense. It should sorta look like this:
  2. 00:03:873 (2) - Same as above.
  3. 00:06:401 (4) - Put a finish hit sound on the slider head.
  4. 00:17:044 (1) - This is my opinion, but I don't think there should be any hit sounds on this slider since the notes don't seem as strong as the other places where there are hit sounds.
  5. 00:45:913 (1,2,3,4) - Change these to look more like the image because I think that people who play normal won't be able to click that fast.
  6. 01:03:341 (1,2) - Change these two circles into a slider (same reason as above).
  7. 01:20:370 (3) - I think there should be a finish hit sound on the head of this slider since it's a strong note.
  8. 01:21:434 (3) - Same as above.
  9. 01:54:694 (2) - Remove the hit sounds on this slider. The note doesn't seem strong enough.
  10. 01:54:960 (1) - Put a whistle hit sound here.
  11. 02:02:410 (1) - Remove the hit sounds on the slider end to keep consistency.
  12. 02:10:658 (4) - Remove the hit sound on the slider head. The note doesn't seem strong enough.
  13. 02:21:035 (2) - Put a finish hit sound on the slider head.
  14. 02:39:660 (1) - Put a finish hit sound.
  15. 02:58:818 (1) - Put a finish hit sound on the slider head.
  16. 03:12:122 (3) - Put a whistle hit sound on the slider head.
  17. 03:13:186 (2) - Same as above.
  18. 03:11:856 (2) - Remove the hit sound.
  19. 03:16:113 (2) - Same as above.
  20. 03:16:379 (3) - Put a whistle hit sound on the slider head.
  21. 03:17:443 (2) - Same as above.
  22. 03:19:572 (1,2,3,4) - Replace these four circles with sliders because people who play normal difficulties usually can't click that fast.
  23. 03:27:820 (2) - Remove the hit sound.
  24. 03:36:334 (2) - Same as above.
  25. 03:37:798 (2,3,4) - Replace with a 1/2 slider and a circle.
  26. 03:39:927 (2,3,4) - Same as above.
  27. 03:46:312 (2,3,4) - Same as above.
  28. 03:52:565 (2,1) - Put a finish hit sound on the slider head.
  29. 03:55:758 (2) - Same as above.
  30. 03:56:822 (2) - Same as above.
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h4d0uk3n1 wrote:

hard:
  1. 02:12:720 (5,6,7) - its not quite obvious what are you followint there because previous objects landed on drums, perhaps make rhythm clearer? From the beginning I have mapped this part to the piano.
  2. 02:13:519 (7) - rhythm seems like mess because of this skipped beat same above
  3. 02:53:496 (4) - didn't quite get whys there a reverse (02:55:625 (4) - there its quite obvious) From the beginning I have mapped this part to the lead saw synth.
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Woo! It's awesome!!
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09:10 Mir: ho~
09:10 Mir: cool that you're online it's better if we talked like this probably
09:10 Nakagawa-Kanon: :D yeah i fixed some part you checked
09:11 Mir: mhm it looks like it, but you seem to have redone those parts with something else
09:11 Mir: well that may be partially my fault for not giving a suggestion
09:11 Mir: 01:12:920 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - for example this is another one that is quite straining to play
09:12 Mir: something like this would be much more reasonable https://i.imgur.com/jaBvHcE.png
09:12 Mir: though i'm not too sure what those are really following in the music x.x
09:15 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154063 I've made a few more changes than you said.
09:15 Mir: well, i suppose that works
09:16 Mir: ideally that change should be applied to all cases of those cutstreams
09:18 Mir: the bpm is fairly high for this song so a lot of 1/4 jumps become really excessive in terms of playability
09:18 Mir: 00:47:909 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - these for example
09:18 Nakagawa-Kanon: If the cutstream is more difficult than the rest, I'll have to fix it.
09:18 Nakagawa-Kanon: Apart from cutstream, is there any other problem?
09:18 Nakagawa-Kanon: oh that parts...
09:19 Mir: 1/4 jumps probably are a problem for this bpm if not handled carefully
09:19 Mir: especially things like 00:55:359 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - become way too difficult
09:21 Mir: 01:08:596 (8,1) - and these might work but the flow currently is too harsh, if changed to https://i.imgur.com/TcftAjH.png it would be nicer
09:26 Nakagawa-Kanon: modified some of the cutstreams and you pointed out.
09:26 Mir: moving to later on 02:36:645 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - these should be grouped into 3 according to the song and the back and forth movement here is quite harsh already
09:28 Nakagawa-Kanon: Umm... I was pointed out that part...
09:29 Mir: yeah i noticed in the thread
09:31 Nakagawa-Kanon: ok i fixed :D
09:33 Mir: 01:10:725 (4,1) - should this be a jump?
09:34 Mir: 01:08:663 (1,2,1,2) - and these could probably be done for 01:16:113 (1,2,3,4,1,1) - as well
09:34 Nakagawa-Kanon: 01:10:725 (4,1) - It was a pattern for making symmetry.. umm....
09:35 Mir: hm but 01:10:193 (4,1) - doesn't have a jump on it and a jump for those seems a bit overemphasizing
09:48 Nakagawa-Kanon: I've remapped the part you pointed out.
09:48 Mir: the symmetry one?
09:48 Nakagawa-Kanon: yes
09:51 Mir: did you change 01:08:463 (6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - back to what it was before? xD
09:53 Nakagawa-Kanon: omg
09:56 Nakagawa-Kanon: fixed again
09:57 Mir: okay so there's still several things i want to mention, do you want to still irc or should i make a post about it?
09:58 Nakagawa-Kanon: i have time now :D plz irc
09:58 Mir: okay
09:58 Mir: 01:11:523 (3,1) - so i noticed here you have another jump x.x
09:59 Mir: i think making 01:11:456 (2,3,1) - into a stream would be nicer
09:59 Mir: example: https://i.imgur.com/9FTxPQA.png
09:59 Mir: 01:11:723 (2,3,1) - same here
10:02 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154243 how about like this?
10:02 Mir: yep that works
10:02 Nakagawa-Kanon: yeah
10:02 Mir: of course, for consistency, you should apply that too all the other ones
10:03 Mir: 03:34:472 (1,2,1,2,1) - you could apply the same idea here
10:03 Mir: and do something like https://i.imgur.com/ypKT8Ev.png
10:03 Nakagawa-Kanon: ok i'll fix
10:13 Mir: alright
10:13 Mir: uhh
10:13 Mir: assuming you did that for most of them
10:13 Mir: 02:08:264 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - this needs to be adjusted too
10:13 Mir: 02:10:924 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - as well as this
10:19 Nakagawa-Kanon: many parts fixed and i updated
10:22 Mir: 03:46:179 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -
10:22 Mir: 03:49:040 (4,1,2,1,2,1) - :x
10:22 Mir: from thereon i think the previous fixes you did should also be applied
10:26 Nakagawa-Kanon: ok... i fixed
10:27 Mir: 03:51:501 (1,2,1,2,1) - asdf
10:27 Nakagawa-Kanon: :x
10:27 Nakagawa-Kanon: fixed
10:28 Mir: 03:27:487 (8,1) - these kinds of jumps i think are okay
10:28 Mir: but
10:28 Mir: 03:32:809 (8,1) - this is too high
10:29 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154333 fixed
10:29 Mir: o
10:29 Mir: that works i guess
10:29 Mir: similar thing here 03:41:124 (1,2,3,4) - the flow entering and exiting this stream is quite harsh
10:30 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154338 fixed
10:31 Mir: o
10:31 Mir: that works too
10:31 Nakagawa-Kanon: :D
10:31 Mir: mind explaining what 03:20:503 (7,8) - 03:21:501 (6,7,8) - these are tho
10:34 Nakagawa-Kanon: That part is what I used in the freedom dive, is not it okay?
10:34 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154349
10:35 Mir: well those would normally be used to emphasize specific notes
10:35 Mir: but there isn't much there
10:35 Mir: it's not that they're wrong it's more "what are they emphasizing"
10:35 Mir: if you did those for 03:21:102 (16,1,2) - instead of a jump that would make a lot more sense and build up difficulty going into the kiai
10:40 Nakagawa-Kanon: ok i fixed streams shapes and jumps
10:41 Mir: looking good
10:42 Mir: 03:47:443 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - this one as well is a bit harsh, if you made the stream curve a bit less it might flow nicer
10:42 Nakagawa-Kanon: :D
10:43 Mir: maybe like this https://i.imgur.com/BxctJ5G.png ?
10:44 Mir: normally i'd ask people to testplay something of this calibre but i have no idea who would be able to reliably play this x.x
10:44 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154409 how about this?
10:44 Mir: that works
10:45 Mir: 03:49:904 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - also did you wanna change this too
10:46 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154418
10:46 Nakagawa-Kanon: fixed
10:47 Mir: probably you should do that for 03:44:583 (1,1) - as well?
10:48 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154426 like this?
10:48 Mir: yeah
10:48 Mir: since they're the same place it should be consistent
10:51 Mir: oh yeah hmm
10:51 Mir: 03:50:902 (4,1) - 03:51:434 (4,1) - seems like more big jumps
10:51 Mir: lowering spacing like https://i.imgur.com/SnW7x3r.png
10:51 Mir: might be more reasonable
10:52 Nakagawa-Kanon: 03:50:902 (4,1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154444
10:53 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154452
10:53 Nakagawa-Kanon: ok i fixed
10:53 Mir: okay
10:54 Mir: but now im wondering why you decided to remove the jump from the first but keep the second x.x
10:54 Nakagawa-Kanon: humm...
10:55 Nakagawa-Kanon: ok i fixed second too
10:55 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154460
10:55 Mir: okay
10:56 Mir: now here's another thing that was recently added to the ranking criteria btw
10:56 Mir: for things like 04:00:414 (2) - leaving a 1/4 gap prevents unfair sliderbreaks
10:56 Mir: referencing: https://i.imgur.com/1hYC4FO.png
10:57 Mir: ofc it's a guideline but i think at this bpm leaving a 1/4 gap would be appropriate
11:02 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154493 humm.. then it's works?
11:03 Mir: eeehmm what's this
11:03 Mir: can you zoom in the timeline cuz i can't really see it that well
11:04 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://puu.sh/xGNPY/6066aa7ac0.png
11:04 Mir: yeah
11:05 Mir: and if you want apply that for all of them in the map
11:05 Mir: 01:45:248 (1) - etc
11:08 Nakagawa-Kanon: ok i fixed all 1/8 slider
11:08 Mir: okay 01:57:887 (5) - ctrl+g?
11:09 Nakagawa-Kanon: That part is a copy of the part of freedom dive. I do not want to touch it.
11:09 Mir: ohh
11:09 Mir: i see
11:10 Nakagawa-Kanon: :D
11:11 Mir: i think it looks a lot more playable now
11:11 Mir: now the 1/3 part
11:11 Mir: uhhmm
11:12 Nakagawa-Kanon: um.....
11:12 Mir: 02:44:184 (1,2) - ctrl+g this i think cuz you did for02:43:918 (1,2) - 02:44:450 (1,2) -
11:12 Mir: 02:45:958 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - and here too
11:14 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154548 i fixed but it's playable?
11:14 Mir: that spacing is a bit high but definitely playable
11:15 Mir: i mean when you have02:56:689 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - i really don't think that should be a problem
11:15 Nakagawa-Kanon: ok
11:15 Mir: so these 02:48:175 (1,2) - they play quite harshly mainly due to slider leniency
11:16 Mir: the player won't really play 1 all the way so they might stop as if it were a stack
11:16 Mir: and stacked 1/3 like that is quite difficult to snap to
11:16 Mir: i think making the 2's not underneath the head would play a lot more fluid
11:16 Mir: kinda like 02:49:239 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -
11:18 Nakagawa-Kanon: 02:48:175 (1,2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154568 how about like this?
11:19 Mir: it's quite a sharp angle, still more reasonable than before
11:19 Mir: i think how you used circular movement would fit best
11:20 Mir: 02:43:918 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - plays pretty nicely
11:20 Mir: 02:45:958 (1,2,3,1) - plays really harshly in comparsion
11:20 Mir: comparison*
11:22 Nakagawa-Kanon: 02:52:432 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Then this part also harshly?
11:22 Mir: yep
11:26 Nakagawa-Kanon: i fixed harsh part and updated but i don't idea to fix like this part 02:49:239 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -
11:27 Mir: i actually think that part is fine
11:28 Nakagawa-Kanon: ok
11:28 Mir: the thing is now that you made it reverse sliders
11:28 Mir: there's a big difference in strain x.x
11:28 Mir: before it was kind of okay since the rhythm was the same but the spacing increased but now the rhythm got simpler but the song is still at a consistent intensity
11:28 Nakagawa-Kanon: haha..
11:29 Mir: which is why i suggested to do circular movements with the same rhythm
11:29 Mir: i didn't expect you to use reverse sliders :x
11:32 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154630 than how about like this
11:34 Mir: still has some sharp angles.. what about this https://i.imgur.com/Sbhzfc8.jpg
11:38 Nakagawa-Kanon: humm... https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154661 How about this?
11:39 Mir: are those stacked under the slider tails?
11:39 Nakagawa-Kanon: yes
11:39 Mir: yeah idk that seems like breaking flow harshly again xD
11:40 Nakagawa-Kanon: orz
11:40 Mir: cuz you stop on the slider end then have to snap really fast to the next slider :x
11:45 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154698 than how about it?
11:46 Mir: yes
11:46 Mir: that works a lot nicer
11:46 Nakagawa-Kanon: finally
11:46 Nakagawa-Kanon: XD
11:46 Mir: if you apply the same movement ideas to 02:48:175 (1,1) - 02:52:432 (1,1,1) - 02:54:561 (2,1) - it should be fine
11:46 Mir: yeah finally x.x
11:47 Mir: really sorry to keep changing the map like this btw usually i wouldn't point out so many major stuffs
11:47 Mir: but i just want to make sure it's actually passable by today's top players
11:47 Nakagawa-Kanon: ok i see
11:48 Mir: 02:56:689 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - as for these hmm
11:49 Nakagawa-Kanon: humm
11:49 Mir: they're pretty high intensity back and forths there but i don't think they're impossible
11:49 Mir: well,
11:49 Mir: maybe if you lowered the spacing slightly it might be more reasonable
11:50 Mir: perhaps like https://i.imgur.com/XooyN4K.png ?
11:51 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154745
11:51 Nakagawa-Kanon: ok i reduced
11:51 Mir: seems good
11:51 Mir: alright
11:51 Mir: lets see the update
11:52 Nakagawa-Kanon: updated :D
11:53 Mir: 02:52:432 (1,1,1) - :x
11:53 Mir: shouldn't these be circle + slider x.x
11:54 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154760
11:54 Nakagawa-Kanon: it's ok?
11:54 Mir: well you could do that but the intensity here is higher than before but you did 02:48:175 (2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - there
11:56 Nakagawa-Kanon: hum....
11:57 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154780
11:57 Nakagawa-Kanon: how about this
11:57 Mir: that doesn't change much, but what you could do
11:58 Mir: like this https://i.imgur.com/Oofznk6.jpg
12:02 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154807
12:02 Nakagawa-Kanon: how about this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154807
12:02 Mir: that would work too
12:02 Mir: 02:54:472 (1,2,1) - apply that to this too and there's only one more thing to look at in this part
12:04 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154817 it's works?
12:05 Mir: yep
12:06 Nakagawa-Kanon: good, i updated
12:06 Mir: the last thing i want to mention is 02:47:465 (2,3) -
12:06 Nakagawa-Kanon: oh.... yeah.....
12:07 Mir: i think that stack is a bit too sudden
12:07 Mir: you can do something like https://i.imgur.com/9s2WWsy.png maybe?
12:07 Mir: similar to how 02:50:836 (1,2,3) - are done
12:10 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9154847 I changed it this way
12:11 Mir: aw what
12:11 Mir: you removed the stack?
12:11 Mir: that's lame :(
12:11 Mir: keeping the circles would be cool just unstacking them would be nice that's all i was gettinga t
12:15 Nakagawa-Kanon: That part was the one I was worried about before, I think if I modify that part in the way you suggested me, it would be pretty hard to play.
12:15 Mir: hnnggg but the circles were cool... maybe we can find a way to keep them?
12:17 Nakagawa-Kanon: humm.... I'll try to fix but sorry, plz give me some time to eat dinner (10~20min)
12:18 Mir: that's fine, just let me know when you're back
12:29 Nakagawa-Kanon: i'm back :D
12:29 Mir: oh
12:29 Mir: that was fast
12:30 Nakagawa-Kanon: so simple dinner
12:31 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9155017 i don't know this triangle is fine
12:32 Mir: the concern with that isn't the triangle anymore
12:32 Mir: it's how the player flows out of the triangle
12:32 Mir: the angle is quite wide there and with such high spacing might be a bit difficult to catch
12:33 Mir: what about ctrl+g 2,3
12:33 Mir: there's more circular movement that way i think
12:34 Nakagawa-Kanon: I made the second circle facing down because the slider was facing down. humm...
12:34 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9155041
12:34 Nakagawa-Kanon: ok
12:34 Mir: ok
12:35 Mir: looks fine now i think
12:35 Nakagawa-Kanon: and i updated
12:35 Nakagawa-Kanon: it's hard to make hard map
12:36 Mir: it definitely is
12:37 Mir: hmm so what's this slow down slider here 02:53:230 (1) -
12:37 Mir: shouldn't 02:55:359 (3) - also be like that?
12:38 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9155068
12:38 Nakagawa-Kanon: how about this
12:39 Mir: that works
12:40 Nakagawa-Kanon: okay, do I fix anything now?
12:40 Mir: 02:35:403 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) -
12:41 Mir: considering what we discussed before
12:41 Mir: these snappy snappy movements
12:47 Nakagawa-Kanon: remapped and updated
12:48 Mir: super nazi thing but 02:37:000 (5,2) - > https://i.imgur.com/E9VoltH.png what do you think
12:50 Nakagawa-Kanon: goooooooood
12:50 Mir: 00:55:359 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - gotta do something about this though
12:52 Mir: 00:56:423 (1,2,3) - similar thing to this?
12:52 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9155141
12:52 Nakagawa-Kanon: how about this
12:52 Nakagawa-Kanon: humm...
12:53 Mir: well what you have is the same anyways so yea
12:53 Mir: that works
12:53 Mir: 00:48:640 (2,1) - stack 2 on 1?
12:53 Mir: 00:03:208 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - and apply the same thing here that you did earlier
12:54 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9155149
12:54 Mir: yeah that works
12:55 Mir: 00:16:246 (5,5) - nc these for consistency with00:15:714 (1) - 00:14:649 (1) -
12:57 Nakagawa-Kanon: ok i added nc and https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9155166
12:59 Mir: 00:09:527 (8,1) - i think removing this jump would be appropriate cuz
12:59 Mir: it's quite early in the song
12:59 Mir: and the flow you're asking the player to perform is quite sharp
12:59 Mir: i feel like it would be more appropriate in the kiai to do something like that
12:59 Mir: which you do already so
13:01 Mir: 02:16:778 (9,10,11,12) - also this seems a bit out of place x.x
13:01 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9155193 fixed
13:01 Mir: oh that's cute
13:01 Mir: nice
13:03 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9155211 how about this?
13:06 Mir: 02:17:244 - there's a note here so maybe put a circle there
13:07 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9155248
13:07 Nakagawa-Kanon: how about this?
13:08 Mir: idk i feel like
13:08 Mir: what you had before was fine just the shape of the stream looked a bit weird
13:08 Mir: if you want to change the rhythm that's fine but you don't really need to?
13:09 Mir: i was just thinking https://i.imgur.com/GqX2Jtd.png
13:09 Nakagawa-Kanon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9155266
13:09 Nakagawa-Kanon: how about this
13:09 Mir: yep that works
13:10 Nakagawa-Kanon: good
13:10 Mir: maybe lower spacing a bit with these 02:53:585 (2,2,2) -
13:11 Mir: https://i.imgur.com/gdtx1z7.png
13:12 Nakagawa-Kanon: i agree https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9155282
13:12 Mir: alright
13:12 Mir: i think that's it
13:12 Mir: i'll look at it again when i mod the rest of the set
13:13 Nakagawa-Kanon: thanks a lot for help old mapper :D
13:14 Mir: it's fine hehe
13:14 Mir: though i worry i made you change things that you wanted to keep
13:17 Nakagawa-Kanon: It's okay, I have not played osu for a long time, so I do not know what patterns are comfortable with players.
13:18 Mir: i did as much as i could with what modding ability i have to make it more comfortable for players so hopefully it helped in a good way
13:20 Nakagawa-Kanon: Anyway thank you, I will go out for work (compose music).
13:21 Mir: okay, have fun~


I'll mod this soon.

Edit: Should talk about topdiff once more, been busy lately so need to catch you online or you catch me either way works.
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This is great! :D Get ranked pls
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ehhh nakagawa-saaannn doko ikunooo

it's fine i suppose, he'll push it again when he's ready?

for now i take my leave from this set. If you come back to it just let me know and we can work more on topdiff if you don't decide to remap it

i suggest getting opinions from top players about the map, you'll notice some weird movements :?

good luck o7
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