They said they might not give it T_T I hope they do, I worked hard for it!Monstrata wrote:
Elite Mapper where?
They said they might not give it T_T I hope they do, I worked hard for it!Monstrata wrote:
Elite Mapper where?
Thanks for the check!- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Was modding this as I was the planned qualify icon, but there are severe quality issues in the salad which really need to be addressed, which is why I was taking time, and then saw someone else already qualified, so posting my mod as it was now.
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Firstly, this difficulty is near FCable without dashing. Not only are the dashes small enough distances to the fact where they're possible without dashing, they're so low to the point where they could easily be misread by a salad player.some of these "dashes" are possible to hit without dashing by over 32 pixels, which is over 1/16th of the screen, which may seem like a small amount, but keep in mind that this is meant for lower players, who the readability of the map would greatly suffer due to this, as supposedly distances intended to be dashes have moderately small distances, however for most salad players, these distances would be too big to not dash. Whilst I admit, maybe they don't need to be entirely impossible without dashing, such a huge difference should not be allowed. - Increased most of the distances for dashing. Yet these jumps do give a sense to dash, so I think the amendment now should help slightly.
00:05:517 (1) - Dash here suffers from that exact problem, x:496 would be a lot better, still possible without dashing but greatly increases readability here.
00:08:275 (1) - Not sure if this is intended to be a dash to this or not, if it is, the distance is far too low, this would definitely get misread as a non-dash, considering this is over 32 pixels off being a dash, however if it's not intended to be a dash, the distance is far too strong for an average salad player. Either way, the emphasis on this slider is super weird anyway, as you have a dash to the head, and then the strongest note in the slider is on the repeat, both in terms of pitch and volume, and that just seems very strange.
00:10:344 (3,4,5) - Also really not a fan of how the flow on that feels for a salad, may be a bit too awkward to play, but this is a minor issue here. - I think this pattern is fine as it is simple to read for beginners. Changing this to patterns like curved circle paths or horizontal paths may be too strange or too difficult here, respectively.
00:11:034 (1) - Another one of those cases where it's either a really strong non-dash or a dash which can be avoided by around 32 pixels. x:376 would be a lot of a safer move here if the dash is intended, as I assume by the change in music, but I'm really not sure.
00:13:793 (1) - Considering the really strong distance to this, I assume it might be intended to be a dash, however, this is not only weaker than your previous dashes in terms of distance, but the sound in the song isn't even that strong. There's a possibility this wasn't intended to be a dash, but the distance is still ridiculously strong considering that.
00:15:172 (3) - Why would you not have a dash to this, considering you've had a dash to much weaker sounds throughout this? Emphasis on here is really strange. - Focusing on 00:15:172 (3,1) - instead, otherwise there will be too many HDashes here (only Kiai Time parts are supposed to be a bit denser)
Honestly, I think it's better for me to just list all the places where it seems dashes were intended, and tell you how to add distance to at least make them more readable for a salad player, so here you go:List of dashes00:16:551 (1) - x:24 would make this one still possible without dashing, but would make the readability greatly improved.
00:22:068 (1,2) - There is a dash distance that is ridiculously small and possible without dashing here, but the bigger problem is the obvious emphasis to the weaker sound rather than to the stronger sound here which makes very little sense from a playing standpoint, and even caused misses from me whilst playing this due to the rhythm sounding very off. I would recommend putting 1 on x:208.
00:24:827 (1,2) - Same emphasis problem here as well as the really low distancing. x:232 on 1 is possible without dashing but I think that's strong enough for a salad player to view it as a dash.
00:27:586 (1,2) - And again. 1 on x:240 would be nice.
00:33:103 (1) - Definitely too weak for a dash as it is now, could confuse players, x:384 would be better.
00:38:620 (1) - Far too weak and overly confusing distance as it is now, try x:192.
00:44:137 (1) - x:232 would still make it possible without dashing, but would definitely make it more visable as a dash to a salad player.
00:46:896 (1) - x:448 would make it more visable as a dash, this distance could definitely confuse a salad player.
00:19:310 (1) - Why such a strong distance to this? Not only is it very difficult to hit without dashing for a salad player, but there's near no note strong enough to emphasise this anywhere near this much here. Moving 00:18:965 (6) - to x:304 solves this problem, however you might want a different way to fix it, if you don't like the idea of holding right here. - Changed in another way.
00:30:344 (1) - Major consistency error here. You've used a dash to the 1/1 on almost all of these (Which I've specifically said you shouldn't, but if you deny those points then that makes this stand out even more), yet you use a slider end on the same sound here. I'd really recommend adding the dash to the slider head here, with consistency with my previous dash recommendations. - Making this part slightly easier so the dash at 00:31:206 (3,1) - can be accentuated well. Also I think it still follows the rhythm with different types of patterns, so is fine to go in my opinion.
00:31:551 (1) - I think a dash to this sound would be really fitting for the pitch change, however that might be difficult to achieve due to the wall being so close. However, the current distance is definitely too strong for an average salad player to hit and so should probably be reduced slightly.
00:35:862 (1) - Kinda difficult movement into this for a salad, especially considering the direction change in the slider, maybe try x:400? - That's a dash.
00:42:758 (1) - Feels kinda strong to play right now, very difficult to hit for a salad player without dashing, however I think this one wasn't intended to be a dash as it is an even lower distance than most of the other ones. x:272 would feel nicer to play. - ^
This mod is unfinished, but just want to post now to bring up a few of the issues in this map which show it being not ready for qualified, so we can slow this down a bit, giving more time to look over the set.
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But you even knew I was part way through my mod, as I had told you that? Just seems kinda stupid to get another BN when you know I'm already modding, and of course I wouldn't post an unfinished mod in normal circumstances, seems kinda stupid to me.Ascendance wrote:
I applied the changes above, but seriously, you know it's bad when you have to get a map qualified in order to get someone to post a mod :v
I very much respect your modding ability, but the reason I had it qualified in the first place was because out of the 4 nominators / QATs I asked, you were the only one who found issue in the salad difficulty, essentially making it a veto of sorts. Also, from what I heard, the map was a free-for-all because of it's high priority (note: high priority) so it didn't matter who was listed as long as it was qualified from my understanding
As of right now, we are currently holding back an official announcement from staff about the conclusion of this contest. I'd like to not hold them up any longer, so if we can resolve this issue quickly, that would be heavenly.
I updated AFB's new difficulty.
Thanks!- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Finishing mod here now, let's see. (also just saying i swear there's something about disneyland said at 00:06:896 - )
[Platter]
00:08:275 (1) - Pretty strong pitch change here, I feel as though a slightly higher distance would be nice to better emphasise it, x:192 is good. sure
00:15:172 (1) - Same with here, x:288 would be nice. did a little lower than that since I don't want to crowd it against the wall
00:19:827 (4,5,6) - I think it'd be nice to maybe include the high pitched synth on 4 and the repeat of 6 in your emphasis somehow. I originally had that, but after a slight rework of the section, I changed it to the background emphasis we have now, with the attempt to bring out mainly 00:20:689 (1,2,3) - .
00:52:931 (2) - Stronger distance to this would feel nice for the high pitched chime, x:208 would work good. sure
01:10:344 (5) - A dash to this to emphasise how the synth changes could be cool, x:152 with a more rightward curve would be a nice way to achieve that. that slider was ugly as fuck
01:21:379 (4) - Same as the above point, although this one's quite a bit more difficult to achieve due to the type of pattern used here. i tried
01:44:827 (1) - x:416 would be a nice distance increase to emphasise the change in synth and the sudden volume increase. ya and tilted it a bit more to catch it better
02:16:379 - Whilst it's not necessary because the salad is a gd, I think it'd be quite nice to map out the synths here, like AFB did in the salad, and then have a HDash to the start of the kiai. yeah for my diffs, I gradually built up the density here to have the sliders for the synths only in the overdose
02:44:138 (3) - Dash to this could be nice for the synth change in this section, x:336 with a more leftward curve feels nice. si
02:55:172 (4) - Again, dash to this for the synth change would be nice, although again, a bit more difficult to achieve right now. ok I tried again lol
[Rain]
00:15:172 (2) - Current distancing to this feels a little too easy to overdash to me if you follow flow, something like x:208 would feel slightly nicer to me. sure
00:19:827 (2) - Could be nice to have a bigger distance for the strong high pitch on this, up to you. seems okay to me but i made the angle a tiny bit more sharp to accentuate it
01:33:793 (1) - HDash to this could be nice for the strong pitch and section change, if you want. gonna keep it how it is since the sound is rather quiet
[Disneyland]
00:15:172 (1) - Something like x:152 would be nice to emphasise the high pitched chime. did 160 instead!
00:19:827 (4,7) - Would be nice to have dashes to these for emphasis on the high pitched chimes too in my opinion. stuff
00:52:931 (4) - HDash to this would be good for how strong this high pitched chime is and also for consistency with the second kiai. indeed
01:05:517 (5) - I think considering this is the finale of the kiai and there's two really strong drum beats, having a HDash to this followed by a HDash to where the repeat currently is, and then that as a 1/2 slider, could work well. I think I did it, but if I didn't, I did what I felt was best
01:33:793 (1) - HDash for the section change would be fitting in my opinion. Same thing as the rain!
02:39:310 (1) - Same as 01:05:517 (5) - . yolo
Alright, done.
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Thanks! Hopefully the very last.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
quick recheck on salad, arranged other stuff in irc with ascendance
Only mentioning the more severe issues this time.
[Salad]
00:08:275 (1) - This one's far too lenient, increase a tiny bit. - Done
On the parts where I told you to use a 1/2 dash instead, but you didn't want to make it more complex, I'd say to just get rid of the dash altogether, having the dash to such a weak note is confusing to the player. Won't list every one since you know which sections I mean. - I only added dash at 00:21:896 (6,1) - , others remain the same (tapping dash button at the prominent beat is also a type of emphasis so I don't think it is confusing), changed 00:30:344 (1,2,3) - a bit so this whole part is coherent and consistent.
00:31:551 (1) - Increase this one just a tiny bit more too. - Fine.
00:48:275 (4) - Very minor increase on this one too.
00:59:310 (3) - And on this one.
01:17:241 (1) - Small increase on this one too please.
01:42:931 (1) - Spinner still feels kinda off, could you give an explanation on it please. - Started on 01:43:103 - instead so it matches the beat.
02:11:379 (4) - Still think this triple feels a bit weird too, please increase this to like x:236. - Increased a bit.
02:12:413 (1) - This one I'd still say needs a bit of an increase.
02:16:379 (1) - This one too.
02:22:068 (4) - And this one.
02:51:034 (1) - Another one that could do with a very slight distance increase.
02:56:551 (1) - This one especially considering the section change.
03:06:034 (4) - Slight increase on this please.
03:10:689 (2) - Doesn't really need a dash to it, make it a normal movement please for consistency. - Seems fair.
03:11:551 (1) - This one could do with a slight increase especially considering the strong pitch.
03:12:931 (5) - And this one considering it's the final note.
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They're getting rid of that system, and I don't think they're giving me or the mania winner Elite Mapper eitherRyoKazuka wrote:
cmon i wanna see the official post and this elite system thing