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JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-08-14T15:15:42+00:00

Some suggestions as promised

General

Hitsounds in the first section 00:00:000 - 00:05:517 - feel a little too quiet for me, perhaps you could buff them 5% or so

Salad

00:02:758 (5) - NC here please, this is 12 fruits without it and your following combos are only 4 beats long instead of 8 here
00:04:137 (7,1) - Unexpectedly high spacing for a walk in the calmest part of the map. Suggest reducing this slightly
00:07:931 (5,1) - Can your first introduction to dash not be a borderline walk with antiflow please? Really confusing for the player considering it's visually similar to the above spacing and requires precision to avoid an overshoot. Ctrl+H the slider and move it slightly closer
00:12:758 (4,1) - 00:15:172 (3,1) - 00:18:965 (6,1) - etc. - Are these intended to be walks? If so, they suffer the same problems I mentioned above, since you increased the SV the spacing is larger than it appears and new players will struggle to walk this. If these are intended dashes, please increase the spacing for better contrast
00:31:379 (3,4) - Unexpected 1/2 dash with antiflow, though this is walkable without too much trouble. A smaller walk with the same direction, or a jump with the antiflow removed like 00:32:586 (7,1) - would work better as this section is still not that intense
00:55:862 (2,3,4,5) - Curve size could be increased for a nicer aesthetic, looks a bit squashed at present
00:58:620 (2,3) - Antiflow dash after a wiggle will really punish new players, even if the kiai is intense this is not expected at all. Ctrl+H (3) would be much more accessible
01:50:000 (3,1) - Even though this is a downbeat, the sound is very weak here and this jump is not expected given your previous emphasis. Giving 01:50:689 (2) - or 01:51:034 (3,4) - 01:52:758 (6,1) - more spacing would fit much better in my opinion
03:05:862 (3,4) - Same as 00:31:379 (3,4) - in the intro
03:12:931 (8,1) - You'll need to leave at least 1 whole beat between the last object and the spinner start to ensure rankability. Suggest starting the spinner at 03:13:275 - or removing 03:12:758 (7) - and starting it at 03:12:931 -

Platter

00:03:792 (3,1) - Appears walkable, but will be quite difficult at this level. Consider increasing the distance here and at 00:05:171 (3,1) - which certainly deserves a dash if 00:00:000 (1,2) - had one due to the increased intensity at the start of the new stanza
00:07:931 (4,1) - Distance could also be increased slightly here for a clearer dash on the high pitch sound
00:42:758 (1,2,3,4,5) - Slightly uncomfortable to walk if you're a little slow on the direction change. I'd reduce these distances a tiny bit, since you're still building up to the kiai here
01:16:982 (7) - Triplet feels forced here, there's no strong sound to support the 1/4 and you didn't do it anywhere previously where it actually was noticeable like 00:43:620 (6) - or where it could have provided more worthwhile emphasis like 00:54:310 (5,6) -
01:31:379 (2) - Feels weird to me that you mapped the slider head to a weak sound with a dash, but the strong sound is on the tail. Then at 01:31:896 (3) - you just skipped the strong sound altogether, presumably to give some more leniency on the spinner. I feel something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8842436 would work better for consistency
02:02:068 (2,3,4) - Kinda weird spacing because they are similar in size and the direction changes can make these much harder than necessary to walk if the player is a little slow to react. Reducing (2,3) and increasing (3,4) would be easier to read imo
02:50:776 (7) - Same as 01:16:982 (7) -
03:06:034 (3,4) - Spacing could be increased on these for a smoother walk, stop-start pattern looks a bit squashed atm

Rain

00:07:931 (4,1) - Maybe personal preference, but I'd have expected a hyper here given how strong this sound is relative to the surrounding ones and certainly compared to your next hyper which is at 00:10:862 (4,1) -
00:21:896 (6,1) - Music is still not that intense here, so given (1) is almost total antiflow, a slightly weaker hyper would be nice to minimise the risk of overshooting and allow the player to get accustomed to the spacing and dash strength

Nothing much to say here, it's pretty solid.

Overdose

00:07:931 (4,1) - Same comment regarding hyper as in Rain
01:37:241 (2,3) - Another place that could really benefit from a hyper, especially if you added a white tick note. Would provide some nice contrast in the otherwise calm section to give it real emphasis it deserves. Could also be applied to 01:40:172 (3,4) - 01:41:551 (6,1) - 01:51:379 (4,1) - since at present, this interlude part feels a little flat to me
02:16:551 (1) - How come you only used a circle here but then followed the last synth note at 02:17:413 (2) - ? Seems weirdly inconsistent when you could have just mapped this part out with a couple more sliders
03:02:931 (4) - Tail here maps such a strong sound, would benefit more from splitting this up and adding a jump imo
03:06:034 (3) - 03:08:793 (4) - NC these for maintaining your 4-beat pattern

Call me back if necessary. Hope these suggestions helped! (:

autofanboy

Elite Mapper / osu!trivium Champion

1,576 posts

Joined January 2011

autofanboy 2017-08-14T17:09:18+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
Some suggestions as promised

General
Hitsounds in the first section 00:00:000 - 00:05:517 - feel a little too quiet for me, perhaps you could buff them 5% or so - Increased volume

Salad
00:02:758 (5) - NC here please, this is 12 fruits without it and your following combos are only 4 beats long instead of 8 here - Done
00:04:137 (7,1) - Unexpectedly high spacing for a walk in the calmest part of the map. Suggest reducing this slightly - Not really a difficult part in my opinion. It is simple to follow and the slider velocity is actually reduced to a suitable amount.
As a good finisher before entering the next stanza, this would be fit.
00:07:931 (5,1) - Can your first introduction to dash not be a borderline walk with antiflow please? Really confusing for the player considering it's visually similar to the above spacing and requires precision to avoid an overshoot. Ctrl+H the slider and move it slightly closer - Moved (5) closer to (4) so the movement of (4,5) is actually a walk, giving more time for players to react.
00:12:758 (4,1) - 00:15:172 (3,1) - 00:18:965 (6,1) - etc. - Are these intended to be walks? If so, they suffer the same problems I mentioned above, since you increased the SV the spacing is larger than it appears and new players will struggle to walk this. If these are intended dashes, please increase the spacing for better contrast - Basically these are not difficult to catch, most of them are having simple paths and are made for Slider Tick Rate 1 (but Ascendance decided to use Slider Tick Rate 2 to stay consistent with other difficulties. I actually prefer using Tick 1 so changing to that would be a lot easier, while not lacking of rhythmical movements.
00:31:379 (3,4) - Unexpected 1/2 dash with antiflow, though this is walkable without too much trouble. A smaller walk with the same direction, or a jump with the antiflow removed like 00:32:586 (7,1) - would work better as this section is still not that intense - Reduced the distance of (2,3) to make it easier, though not changing the pattern, it is still easy to follow.
00:55:862 (2,3,4,5) - Curve size could be increased for a nicer aesthetic, looks a bit squashed at present - Fine
00:58:620 (2,3) - Antiflow dash after a wiggle will really punish new players, even if the kiai is intense this is not expected at all. Ctrl+H (3) would be much more accessible - Doesn't that makes it even harder? The current one is not really that hard to follow... I will just slant 00:58:620 (2) - a bit so it doesn't provide that many movements.
01:50:000 (3,1) - Even though this is a downbeat, the sound is very weak here and this jump is not expected given your previous emphasis. Giving 01:50:689 (2) - or 01:51:034 (3,4) - 01:52:758 (6,1) - more spacing would fit much better in my opinion - Changed this pattern.
03:05:862 (3,4) - Same as 00:31:379 (3,4) - in the intro - Done
03:12:931 (8,1) - You'll need to leave at least 1 whole beat between the last object and the spinner start to ensure rankability. Suggest starting the spinner at 03:13:275 - or removing 03:12:758 (7) - and starting it at 03:12:931 - Seems fair.

Thanks for mod!

Update

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Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2017-08-14T18:34:09+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
Some suggestions as promised

General
Hitsounds in the first section 00:00:000 - 00:05:517 - feel a little too quiet for me, perhaps you could buff them 5% or so

Platter
00:03:792 (3,1) - Appears walkable, but will be quite difficult at this level. Consider increasing the distance here and at 00:05:171 (3,1) - which certainly deserves a dash if 00:00:000 (1,2) - had one due to the increased intensity at the start of the new stanza Yup, did both
00:07:931 (4,1) - Distance could also be increased slightly here for a clearer dash on the high pitch sound Increased a bit!
00:42:758 (1,2,3,4,5) - Slightly uncomfortable to walk if you're a little slow on the direction change. I'd reduce these distances a tiny bit, since you're still building up to the kiai here reduced them just a little bit since I don't feel it's too bad rn
01:16:982 (7) - Triplet feels forced here, there's no strong sound to support the 1/4 and you didn't do it anywhere previously where it actually was noticeable like 00:43:620 (6) - or where it could have provided more worthwhile emphasis like 00:54:310 (5,6) - Yeah, you're right. I mapped this after the rain so I was probably in the groove of it
01:31:379 (2) - Feels weird to me that you mapped the slider head to a weak sound with a dash, but the strong sound is on the tail. Then at 01:31:896 (3) - you just skipped the strong sound altogether, presumably to give some more leniency on the spinner. I feel something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8842436 would work better for consistency Even though it's a weaker sound in that string of notes, it does act as a downbeat and it gives a better lead-in to the spinner rather than just a walk. For me, this dash acts as the "end" of this section of music.
02:02:068 (2,3,4) - Kinda weird spacing because they are similar in size and the direction changes can make these much harder than necessary to walk if the player is a little slow to react. Reducing (2,3) and increasing (3,4) would be easier to read imo Agreed, fixed!
02:50:776 (7) - Same as 01:16:982 (7) - dab
03:06:034 (3,4) - Spacing could be increased on these for a smoother walk, stop-start pattern looks a bit squashed atm right, done!

Rain
00:07:931 (4,1) - Maybe personal preference, but I'd have expected a hyper here given how strong this sound is relative to the surrounding ones and certainly compared to your next hyper which is at 00:10:862 (4,1) - wanna discuss with you later
00:21:896 (6,1) - Music is still not that intense here, so given (1) is almost total antiflow, a slightly weaker hyper would be nice to minimise the risk of overshooting and allow the player to get accustomed to the spacing and dash strength Reduced a bit
Nothing much to say here, it's pretty solid.

Overdose
00:07:931 (4,1) - Same comment regarding hyper as in Rain Same
01:37:241 (2,3) - Another place that could really benefit from a hyper, especially if you added a white tick note. Would provide some nice contrast in the otherwise calm section to give it real emphasis it deserves. Could also be applied to 01:40:172 (3,4) - 01:41:551 (6,1) - 01:51:379 (4,1) - since at present, this interlude part feels a little flat to me Sure, added them
02:16:551 (1) - How come you only used a circle here but then followed the last synth note at 02:17:413 (2) - ? Seems weirdly inconsistent when you could have just mapped this part out with a couple more sliders slidered it up
03:02:931 (4) - Tail here maps such a strong sound, would benefit more from splitting this up and adding a jump imo sure, did it to the rest too
03:06:034 (3) - 03:08:793 (4) - NC these for maintaining your 4-beat pattern donedone!
Call me back if necessary. Hope these suggestions helped! (:

Thanks a lot!

ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

1,019 posts

Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2017-08-14T23:08:57+00:00

Checking this.

[Salad]

00:22:068 (1,2) - If you intended this (and all the similar patterns to be dashed), they would benefit from a couple grid spaces more of distance, to make it even clearer.
00:31:034 (2,3,1) - I don't consider this the best pattern to introduce the first 1/2 dash in this diff, as it requires 2 direction changes. I would either delete (3) and rearrange stuff, or Ctrl+H 00:31:551 (1,2,3) - and move it towards the center to keep the 1/2 dash.
00:42:758 (1,2,1) - Although I understand that you placed the circle on the red tick because the higher pitched sound is there, to me it sounds way better on the white tick. Also, the pattern requires 2 direction changes, which feels a bit too uncomfortable to play. So I suggest you move (2) to the white tick, have it follow the movement of the slider, and then you can Ctrl+H 00:44:137 (1) - and play with the following notes around a bit.
00:58:620 (2) - I'd slant this slider a bit more, so that it does look like you can stay still on it to catch it. With the current angle, some players might try to wiggle it which will make the following dash a bit hard to do.
01:11:724 (1,2) - I'd prefer if you had the slider first, as it adds some leniency to the 1/2 dash, and it also follows the music a bit as there's a held sound in the downbeat. Also applies for similar parts, such as 01:25:517 (1,2) - .
01:23:448 (2,3) - and 01:25:862 (2,3) - This part of the song is calm, so the dashes aren't really fitting here.
01:54:137 (3,1) - (1) isn't that intense to require a dash on this, so I'd remove it.
02:13:792 (1,2) - This is a rather ambiguous distance, and the sound at (2) is rather weak, so I'd reduce the distance to make the walk clearer.
02:57:241 (2,3) - and 02:59:655 (2,3) - same as previously mentioned.
03:07:413 (7,1) - This looks rather weird, and it's inconsistent with a previous similar pattern that had no dash at all (01:34:482 (2,3) - ), so I'd make it walkable.

[Platter]

00:00:000 (1,2,1) - The distances between these objects are so different, yet the sounds are exactly the same. The first one feels way to large, and it can really throw players off being the first jump of the map, while the second one falls a bit short. I'd move 00:00:000 (1,2) - around so the distances are ~x1.9 between each object.
00:06:379 (3) - Why is there a dash to this? The song isn't really calling it and it's inconsistent with all your previous patterning. I'd Ctrl+G it.
00:10:517 (7,8) - This dash feels slightly off on its own, since it's on an upbeat. If anything, I would have expected a dash between 00:10:172 (5,6) - .
00:12:413 (5,6) - Rather ambiguous distance, I'd reduce it a bit to make it more walkable, since having two dashes in a row doesn't fit your patterning for this section.
00:27:068 (5,1) - This patterns feels odd because the jump emphasizes the synth, while the slider end focuses on the drums. I'd suggest either extending the (1) slider to the red tick, so it follows the synth and keeps the focus on it, or even extend it to the white tick where (2) starts and map a circle on 00:28:275 - (or a slider covering both that note and (3)).
00:50:862 (3,4) - The dash between these notes is really unfitting, as the sound on the red tick is really weak. Not to mention, the whole movement is unexpected because for a similar sound you had a slider covering it (00:45:344 (3) - ). So I'd go for consistency here and keep the slider.
00:57:931 (1,2) - Again, the direction change here is really uncalled for. I'd just go for the pattern that you used previously in 00:46:896 (1,2,3) - .
01:16:379 (5,6,7) - I'd reduce the distance between these objects to add some leniency to the pattern, since it's two direction changes leading to a HDash.
01:22:758 (1,2) - I'd go for slider and then circle instead, to add leniency and consistency to the pattern.
01:31:379 (2,3) - This dash is really uncalled, and I think the circle sounds way better on the following white tick.
01:40:517 (3,4) - Either a repeat slider or going for slider > circle fits better.
01:52:241 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I find it rather weird that you changed the focus from the synth to the stuff in the back. I would replace 01:52:931 (3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - with two 3/2 sliders like 01:51:551 (1,2) - , and then switch the focus at 01:54:482 (1,2,3,4) -.
02:32:586 (8,1,2) - Same suggestion as in 00:58:793 (2,3).
02:50:173 (5,6,7) - Similar stuff as mentioned for 01:16:379 (5,6,7) -.
02:56:551 (1,2) - And same stuff as in 01:22:758 (1,2) -.
03:04:827 (1,2) - This distance is a bit ambiguous to me. I'd move (2) to the right a a bit to make it walkable, while making a larger jump to (3) which probably deserves it due to its higher pitch.

[Rain]

00:21:379 (5,6) - I'd put the circle first and then the repeat slider, it fits the music better. Try this:
SPOILER
00:26:034 (1) - Since some people wish death to things or persons they don't agree with, death to extended sliders!
00:31:551 (1) - ^
00:39:827 (1) - This feels so off, considering you've used C-shaped sliders for all the sounds like this, even throughout the Kiai. And the antiflow makes it harsher than it should be.
00:56:379 (1) - ^Same.
01:22:758 (1,2) - Replace with a single 1/1 slider for consistency please.
01:33:620 (5,1) - This could use a larger distance, to emphasize the change in the song.
01:28:275 (1,2,3,4,5) - To me the strongest sounds land on (4) and (5)'s tail (kinda like you did on 01:29:655 (1,2,3) - ), so moving the repeat slider 1/2 earlier and taking one repeat off follows the music more closely (and, of course, re-adding the circle on 01:29:310 - ). The same applies for 01:31:034 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:32:413 (1,2,3,4,5) - , although in this last one the sounds are weaker, but the player would expect it for consistency.
01:35:000 (3) - One could expect a larger distance to this, based on its pitch. Maybe Ctrl+G it?
01:38:275 (2,3) - I think this sounds slightly better if you take the circle away and move the slider 1/2 earlier. If you do this, you should move both sliders a bit to the right.
01:40:517 (1,2) - Slider first follows the music in a better way, and it's more consistent with the rest of your patterns.
01:50:344 (1) - I would remove this note, as it takes emphasis away from the synth, which you have been following throughout this section.
01:53:103 (1,2) - Same comment as done for the Platter.
02:37:241 (1,2,3,4) - Place (4) closer to the triplet, as it can be easy to miss considering the antiflow movement.

[Overdose]

00:06:551 (4,1) - This should have a larger distance for consistency with the previous ones. It currently feels a bit underwhelming.
00:22:413 (2,3) - This should be slider first and circle after it, to follow the music better. You're missing a relatively strong sound at 00:22:758 - the way it is now.
00:25:172 (2,3) - Similar stuff here. Two 1/2 sliders could do.
00:26:034 (1) - and 00:31:551 (1) - :^)
00:38:620 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - Really weird that you have an HDash between (1,2) and not between (5,1), considering (1) is stronger (and is emphasized that way with your afb's hitsounding
00:48:275 (1,2) - This plays and sounds really weird to me, without being overmapped. I would have gone for a 1/2 repeat or something like you did on 00:46:896 (1,2) - . Also applies for the same pattern in the second half of the Kiai.
01:07:586 (1,2,3) - It's weird that the distances are so similar when (3) is stronger. You could even have an HDash to it.
01:18:448 (5,1) - This is way too harsh for what the section is. I'd go for normal flow here.
01:29:655 (1,2,3,4) - The change in spacing from the previous pattern feels a bit sudden, so I'd reduce the distance here.
01:50:344 (1) - Same comment as in Rain.
01:55:517 (3) - In this case I'm not against the extended slider, but having a x7.4 1/4 HDash is way overdoing it. Maybe you can curve the slider a bit more so the strenght of the HDash isn't that much. Also, it's easy to overshoot considering the next section has lower SV.
02:22:068 (1,2,3) - Same comment as in the previous Kiai.
02:33:103 (1,2,3,4) - ^Same stuff. Also, it doesn't make sense that (1,2) is larger than (4,5) since (5) is stronger.
02:41:206 (5,1) - Again, the harsh antiflow doesn't fit the section.
02:51:034 (1) - ^

autofanboy

Elite Mapper / osu!trivium Champion

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Joined January 2011

autofanboy 2017-08-15T04:26:53+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
Checking this.

[Salad]
00:22:068 (1,2) - If you intended this (and all the similar patterns to be dashed), they would benefit from a couple grid spaces more of distance, to make it even clearer. - Fine
00:31:034 (2,3,1) - I don't consider this the best pattern to introduce the first 1/2 dash in this diff, as it requires 2 direction changes. I would either delete (3) and rearrange stuff, or Ctrl+H 00:31:551 (1,2,3) - and move it towards the center to keep the 1/2 dash. - Changed in another way.
00:42:758 (1,2,1) - Although I understand that you placed the circle on the red tick because the higher pitched sound is there, to me it sounds way better on the white tick. Also, the pattern requires 2 direction changes, which feels a bit too uncomfortable to play. So I suggest you move (2) to the white tick, have it follow the movement of the slider, and then you can Ctrl+H 00:44:137 (1) - and play with the following notes around a bit. - Changed in another way.
00:58:620 (2) - I'd slant this slider a bit more, so that it does look like you can stay still on it to catch it. With the current angle, some players might try to wiggle it which will make the following dash a bit hard to do. - Not going to change, I have made small changes in the previous mod stating that the movements here are too large. Now I think this is the state that can satisfy both difficulty and the flow here.
01:11:724 (1,2) - I'd prefer if you had the slider first, as it adds some leniency to the 1/2 dash, and it also follows the music a bit as there's a held sound in the downbeat. Also applies for similar parts, such as 01:25:517 (1,2) - . - Done for the first one, but I am not going to change for the second part, as I want to keep the curve pattern: 01:24:137 (3,4,5,6,1) - , also the current state is clearer to read.
01:23:448 (2,3) - and 01:25:862 (2,3) - This part of the song is calm, so the dashes aren't really fitting here. - Reduced both distance and made small changes to associated patterns.
01:54:137 (3,1) - (1) isn't that intense to require a dash on this, so I'd remove it. - I will keep this one, too hard to make changes as it will probably ruin the whole pattern. Besides the current one can act as a build-up.
02:13:792 (1,2) - This is a rather ambiguous distance, and the sound at (2) is rather weak, so I'd reduce the distance to make the walk clearer. - Increased distance instead to a sure-dash. Removing dash seems weird here as I am trying to create a rhythm here, dashing between every stanzas starting from 02:12:413 - .
02:57:241 (2,3) - and 02:59:655 (2,3) - same as previously mentioned. - Done
03:07:413 (7,1) - This looks rather weird, and it's inconsistent with a previous similar pattern that had no dash at all (01:34:482 (2,3) - ), so I'd make it walkable. - I still think that a dash fits here. The sound at 03:07:931 - is louder than the one you cited. Also I think it works as a good build-up at the end.

Thanks for mod!

Update

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Ascendance

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Ascendance 2017-08-15T20:01:57+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
Checking this.

[Platter]
00:00:000 (1,2,1) - The distances between these objects are so different, yet the sounds are exactly the same. The first one feels way to large, and it can really throw players off being the first jump of the map, while the second one falls a bit short. I'd move 00:00:000 (1,2) - around so the distances are ~x1.9 between each object. Fixed
00:06:379 (3) - Why is there a dash to this? The song isn't really calling it and it's inconsistent with all your previous patterning. I'd Ctrl+G it. Didn't ctrl+g, but removed the dash to make a different shape
00:10:517 (7,8) - This dash feels slightly off on its own, since it's on an upbeat. If anything, I would have expected a dash between 00:10:172 (5,6) - . Dash is there because it's the strongest note in that sequence, and I'd like to create a small lead-in to 00:10:689 (8,1) - .
00:12:413 (5,6) - Rather ambiguous distance, I'd reduce it a bit to make it more walkable, since having two dashes in a row doesn't fit your patterning for this section. Fixed!
00:27:068 (5,1) - This patterns feels odd because the jump emphasizes the synth, while the slider end focuses on the drums. I'd suggest either extending the (1) slider to the red tick, so it follows the synth and keeps the focus on it, or even extend it to the white tick where (2) starts and map a circle on 00:28:275 - (or a slider covering both that note and (3)). Took the first option
00:50:862 (3,4) - The dash between these notes is really unfitting, as the sound on the red tick is really weak. Not to mention, the whole movement is unexpected because for a similar sound you had a slider covering it (00:45:344 (3) - ). So I'd go for consistency here and keep the slider. Yeah, reduced the distance and changed the shape a bit
00:57:931 (1,2) - Again, the direction change here is really uncalled for. I'd just go for the pattern that you used previously in 00:46:896 (1,2,3) - . Consistency!
01:16:379 (5,6,7) - I'd reduce the distance between these objects to add some leniency to the pattern, since it's two direction changes leading to a HDash.It's a pretty high intensity section so I wanna keep that aspect of it, but I reduced it a little
01:22:758 (1,2) - I'd go for slider and then circle instead, to add leniency and consistency to the pattern. Gonna keep this since I want the hdash to be easier (01:22:413 (6,1) -) and have 01:23:103 (2) - emphasize that increase in pitch.
01:31:379 (2,3) - This dash is really uncalled, and I think the circle sounds way better on the following white tick. fixed the dash but kept the timeline placement, I'm emphasizing the foreground stuff rather than the bg
01:40:517 (3,4) - Either a repeat slider or going for slider > circle fits better. repeat slider it is
01:52:241 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I find it rather weird that you changed the focus from the synth to the stuff in the back. I would replace 01:52:931 (3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - with two 3/2 sliders like 01:51:551 (1,2) - , and then switch the focus at 01:54:482 (1,2,3,4) -. I do this in all diffs mainly because the introduction of the gradually increasing pitch of the synth is something to emphasize and bring out here. This increase also gives a significant buildup into the next section of music at 01:55:862 (1) - , so it feels really nice to play and not super abrupt.
02:32:586 (8,1,2) - Same suggestion as in 00:58:793 (2,3). done
02:50:173 (5,6,7) - Similar stuff as mentioned for 01:16:379 (5,6,7) -. same deal
02:56:551 (1,2) - And same stuff as in 01:22:758 (1,2) -. same thing
03:04:827 (1,2) - This distance is a bit ambiguous to me. I'd move (2) to the right a a bit to make it walkable, while making a larger jump to (3) which probably deserves it due to its higher pitch. Agreed
[Rain]
00:21:379 (5,6) - I'd put the circle first and then the repeat slider, it fits the music better. Try this: switched the timeline and did something slightly different for placement
SPOILER
00:26:034 (1) - Since some people wish death to things or persons they don't agree with, death to extended sliders! Normally I'd agree with you, but this extended slider is representing a held sound, which is why I'll keep it. There's no extended slider abuse in this mapset besides for rhythms that already exist in the song!
00:31:551 (1) - ^ beep boop
00:39:827 (1) - This feels so off, considering you've used C-shaped sliders for all the sounds like this, even throughout the Kiai. And the antiflow makes it harsher than it should be. I've given it some curve so that way it isn't as harsh
00:56:379 (1) - ^Same. same!
01:22:758 (1,2) - Replace with a single 1/1 slider for consistency please. I want it like this because 01:23:103 (2,3,4) - captures the high pitched notes really well, rather than having the start of it land on a sliderend
01:33:620 (5,1) - This could use a larger distance, to emphasize the change in the song. agree!
01:28:275 (1,2,3,4,5) - To me the strongest sounds land on (4) and (5)'s tail (kinda like you did on 01:29:655 (1,2,3) - ), so moving the repeat slider 1/2 earlier and taking one repeat off follows the music more closely (and, of course, re-adding the circle on 01:29:310 - ). The same applies for 01:31:034 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:32:413 (1,2,3,4,5) - , although in this last one the sounds are weaker, but the player would expect it for consistency. Mainly this part of the song was emphasized in the back and forth sounds (i.e. 01:28:965 (5) - ) because I couldn't really understand what to follow here.
I didn't do much about moving around things on the timeline, but I did change some distances more appropriately
01:35:000 (3) - One could expect a larger distance to this, based on its pitch. Maybe Ctrl+G it? Yup
01:38:275 (2,3) - I think this sounds slightly better if you take the circle away and move the slider 1/2 earlier. If you do this, you should move both sliders a bit to the right. yeeeeeeep
01:40:517 (1,2) - Slider first follows the music in a better way, and it's more consistent with the rest of your patterns. Slider is there for the held note though, keeping this one!
01:50:344 (1) - I would remove this note, as it takes emphasis away from the synth, which you have been following throughout this section. Important downbeat though, and also it has a small crescendo here in pitch
01:53:103 (1,2) - Same comment as done for the Platter. same as there
02:37:241 (1,2,3,4) - Place (4) closer to the triplet, as it can be easy to miss considering the antiflow movement. fixed

[Overdose]
00:06:551 (4,1) - This should have a larger distance for consistency with the previous ones. It currently feels a bit underwhelming. Fixed I hope
00:22:413 (2,3) - This should be slider first and circle after it, to follow the music better. You're missing a relatively strong sound at 00:22:758 - the way it is now. sure, fixed
00:25:172 (2,3) - Similar stuff here. Two 1/2 sliders could do. personally believe this one is fine
00:26:034 (1) - and 00:31:551 (1) - :^) same explanation as in rain
00:38:620 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - Really weird that you have an HDash between (1,2) and not between (5,1), considering (1) is stronger (and is emphasized that way with your afb's hitsounding Everyone gets an hdash now
00:48:275 (1,2) - This plays and sounds really weird to me, without being overmapped. I would have gone for a 1/2 repeat or something like you did on 00:46:896 (1,2) - . Also applies for the same pattern in the second half of the Kiai. changed the way it plays but I kept the triplet because improvising rhythms (imo) is necessary when the song is repetitive. It adds flair and uniqueness!
01:07:586 (1,2,3) - It's weird that the distances are so similar when (3) is stronger. You could even have an HDash to it. No hdash, but I increased the distance!
01:18:448 (5,1) - This is way too harsh for what the section is. I'd go for normal flow here. fixfix
01:29:655 (1,2,3,4) - The change in spacing from the previous pattern feels a bit sudden, so I'd reduce the distance here. reduced a bit
01:50:344 (1) - Same comment as in Rain. same!
01:55:517 (3) - In this case I'm not against the extended slider, but having a x7.4 1/4 HDash is way overdoing it. Maybe you can curve the slider a bit more so the strenght of the HDash isn't that much. Also, it's easy to overshoot considering the next section has lower SV. changed it up a bit
02:22:068 (1,2,3) - Same comment as in the previous Kiai. same as before
02:33:103 (1,2,3,4) - ^Same stuff. Also, it doesn't make sense that (1,2) is larger than (4,5) since (5) is stronger. fixed the distances
02:41:206 (5,1) - Again, the harsh antiflow doesn't fit the section. fix
02:51:034 (1) - ^ this one is okay imo cause strong cymbal and this is the finale of the map pmuch

Thanks for modding!

ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

1,019 posts

Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2017-08-16T01:49:25+00:00

Get this to 12 SP lul

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2017-08-16T01:50:33+00:00

Speedrank

ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

1,019 posts

Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2017-08-16T01:51:08+00:00

Discussed a few last changes with Ascendance. I don't agree with one particular response from alienflybot, something being too hard to apply - which, actually, it isn't because I tried a solution that worked IMO - isn't a reason to deny a suggestion. However, the issue is not that big as to prevent this from being ranked, so I'm still moving it forward.

Bubbled!

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2017-08-16T01:54:45+00:00

Good day Elite Mapper :_>

Soul Evans

Elite Mapper

425 posts

Joined June 2014

Soul Evans 2017-08-16T14:57:02+00:00

Goodluck for speedrank

was pretty hard ranking mine

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2017-08-17T01:07:15+00:00

Just letting you know the update is due to a bg change, which I confirmed does not need a rebubble:

F D Flourite

811 posts

Joined March 2013

F D Flourite 2017-08-18T16:06:30+00:00

I'm back Asc boi

NO KD

[Salad]

01:39:137 (6,1) - Swap NC? The strong sound is on the sliderhead of 01:39:137 (6) -
01:54:482 (1) - NC is not needed imo. This place is a build-up. So a fountain for NC would kinda ruin the feeling of build-up: it pours before it accumulates.
01:56:724 - add a circle here or 01:57:068 - here? This section sounds a little bit blank even if it has more rhythm than following sections. (For example, you just self-made a sound at 01:59:827 - where there's probably nothing to express)
02:02:241 - or 02:02:586 - same ^
03:11:034 (3,1) - could've been a jump here
00:42:068 (3,1) - A little bit ambiguous distance actually. It can be larger.
01:42:413 (6) - Ctrl+G? A direction change may be needed.

TBC~ sleep zzz

autofanboy

Elite Mapper / osu!trivium Champion

1,576 posts

Joined January 2011

autofanboy 2017-08-19T04:10:51+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
I'm back Asc boi

NO KD

[Salad]
01:39:137 (6,1) - Swap NC? The strong sound is on the sliderhead of 01:39:137 (6) - I think 01:39:655 - is the point where transition occurs so I am not changing this.
01:54:482 (1) - NC is not needed imo. This place is a build-up. So a fountain for NC would kinda ruin the feeling of build-up: it pours before it accumulates. - Pretty much become unrankable if I removed the NC, as the ranking criteria mentioned that 10 objects in a combo is maximum for Salad. In fact I remapped the build-up section here and omitted the dash at the start. Should be relatively better now.
01:56:724 - add a circle here or 01:57:068 - here? This section sounds a little bit blank even if it has more rhythm than following sections. (For example, you just self-made a sound at 01:59:827 - where there's probably nothing to express) - Added slider to map 01:57:068 - .
02:02:241 - or 02:02:586 - same ^ - Not changing this one because there is an additional rhythm at 02:03:103 (5) - which I find it suitable enough.
03:11:034 (3,1) - could've been a jump here - Added and remapped the last section.
00:42:068 (3,1) - A little bit ambiguous distance actually. It can be larger. - Not supposed to be a dash, it has the same distance as 00:41:380 (1,2) - so I think it is good to go.
01:42:413 (6) - Ctrl+G? A direction change may be needed. - Did similar change.
TBC~ sleep zzz

Thanks for mod!

GOGOGOGOGOGO

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Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2017-08-19T05:47:09+00:00

Please re-dl if you haven't already. With F D Flourite, I compressed the bg image to a much smaller size, and we went through some things in all the difficulties.

F D Flourite

811 posts

Joined March 2013

F D Flourite 2017-08-19T06:05:51+00:00

HYPPERRANK

Did irc with Ascendance on some small placement issues. Should be good to go now~

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2017-08-19T06:11:17+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
HYPPERRANK

Did irc with Ascendance on some small placement issues. Should be good to go now~

Thank you so much

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-08-19T07:45:01+00:00

Elite Mapper where?

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2017-08-19T08:25:40+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
Elite Mapper where?

They said they might not give it T_T I hope they do, I worked hard for it!

autofanboy

Elite Mapper / osu!trivium Champion

1,576 posts

Joined January 2011

autofanboy 2017-08-19T09:37:15+00:00

Elite Salad Mapper where

Soul Evans

Elite Mapper

425 posts

Joined June 2014

Soul Evans 2017-08-19T11:35:46+00:00

Elite (congrats mango)

MBomb

MBomb 2017-08-19T12:11:20+00:00

Was modding this as I was the planned qualify icon, but there are severe quality issues in the salad which really need to be addressed, which is why I was taking time, and then saw someone else already qualified, so posting my mod as it was now.

[Salad]

Firstly, this difficulty is near FCable without dashing. Not only are the dashes small enough distances to the fact where they're possible without dashing, they're so low to the point where they could easily be misread by a salad player.some of these "dashes" are possible to hit without dashing by over 32 pixels, which is over 1/16th of the screen, which may seem like a small amount, but keep in mind that this is meant for lower players, who the readability of the map would greatly suffer due to this, as supposedly distances intended to be dashes have moderately small distances, however for most salad players, these distances would be too big to not dash. Whilst I admit, maybe they don't need to be entirely impossible without dashing, such a huge difference should not be allowed.

00:05:517 (1) - Dash here suffers from that exact problem, x:496 would be a lot better, still possible without dashing but greatly increases readability here.
00:08:275 (1) - Not sure if this is intended to be a dash to this or not, if it is, the distance is far too low, this would definitely get misread as a non-dash, considering this is over 32 pixels off being a dash, however if it's not intended to be a dash, the distance is far too strong for an average salad player. Either way, the emphasis on this slider is super weird anyway, as you have a dash to the head, and then the strongest note in the slider is on the repeat, both in terms of pitch and volume, and that just seems very strange.
00:10:344 (3,4,5) - Also really not a fan of how the flow on that feels for a salad, may be a bit too awkward to play, but this is a minor issue here.
00:11:034 (1) - Another one of those cases where it's either a really strong non-dash or a dash which can be avoided by around 32 pixels. x:376 would be a lot of a safer move here if the dash is intended, as I assume by the change in music, but I'm really not sure.
00:13:793 (1) - Considering the really strong distance to this, I assume it might be intended to be a dash, however, this is not only weaker than your previous dashes in terms of distance, but the sound in the song isn't even that strong. There's a possibility this wasn't intended to be a dash, but the distance is still ridiculously strong considering that.
00:15:172 (3) - Why would you not have a dash to this, considering you've had a dash to much weaker sounds throughout this? Emphasis on here is really strange.

Honestly, I think it's better for me to just list all the places where it seems dashes were intended, and tell you how to add distance to at least make them more readable for a salad player, so here you go:

List of dashes

00:16:551 (1) - x:24 would make this one still possible without dashing, but would make the readability greatly improved.
00:22:068 (1,2) - There is a dash distance that is ridiculously small and possible without dashing here, but the bigger problem is the obvious emphasis to the weaker sound rather than to the stronger sound here which makes very little sense from a playing standpoint, and even caused misses from me whilst playing this due to the rhythm sounding very off. I would recommend putting 1 on x:208.
00:24:827 (1,2) - Same emphasis problem here as well as the really low distancing. x:232 on 1 is possible without dashing but I think that's strong enough for a salad player to view it as a dash.
00:27:586 (1,2) - And again. 1 on x:240 would be nice.
00:33:103 (1) - Definitely too weak for a dash as it is now, could confuse players, x:384 would be better.
00:38:620 (1) - Far too weak and overly confusing distance as it is now, try x:192.
00:44:137 (1) - x:232 would still make it possible without dashing, but would definitely make it more visable as a dash to a salad player.
00:46:896 (1) - x:448 would make it more visable as a dash, this distance could definitely confuse a salad player.

00:19:310 (1) - Why such a strong distance to this? Not only is it very difficult to hit without dashing for a salad player, but there's near no note strong enough to emphasise this anywhere near this much here. Moving 00:18:965 (6) - to x:304 solves this problem, however you might want a different way to fix it, if you don't like the idea of holding right here.
00:30:344 (1) - Major consistency error here. You've used a dash to the 1/1 on almost all of these (Which I've specifically said you shouldn't, but if you deny those points then that makes this stand out even more), yet you use a slider end on the same sound here. I'd really recommend adding the dash to the slider head here, with consistency with my previous dash recommendations.
00:31:551 (1) - I think a dash to this sound would be really fitting for the pitch change, however that might be difficult to achieve due to the wall being so close. However, the current distance is definitely too strong for an average salad player to hit and so should probably be reduced slightly.
00:35:862 (1) - Kinda difficult movement into this for a salad, especially considering the direction change in the slider, maybe try x:400?
00:42:758 (1) - Feels kinda strong to play right now, very difficult to hit for a salad player without dashing, however I think this one wasn't intended to be a dash as it is an even lower distance than most of the other ones. x:272 would feel nicer to play.

This mod is unfinished, but just want to post now to bring up a few of the issues in this map which show it being not ready for qualified, so we can slow this down a bit, giving more time to look over the set.

autofanboy

Elite Mapper / osu!trivium Champion

1,576 posts

Joined January 2011

autofanboy 2017-08-19T14:29:47+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Was modding this as I was the planned qualify icon, but there are severe quality issues in the salad which really need to be addressed, which is why I was taking time, and then saw someone else already qualified, so posting my mod as it was now.

[Salad]

Firstly, this difficulty is near FCable without dashing. Not only are the dashes small enough distances to the fact where they're possible without dashing, they're so low to the point where they could easily be misread by a salad player.some of these "dashes" are possible to hit without dashing by over 32 pixels, which is over 1/16th of the screen, which may seem like a small amount, but keep in mind that this is meant for lower players, who the readability of the map would greatly suffer due to this, as supposedly distances intended to be dashes have moderately small distances, however for most salad players, these distances would be too big to not dash. Whilst I admit, maybe they don't need to be entirely impossible without dashing, such a huge difference should not be allowed. - Increased most of the distances for dashing. Yet these jumps do give a sense to dash, so I think the amendment now should help slightly.

00:05:517 (1) - Dash here suffers from that exact problem, x:496 would be a lot better, still possible without dashing but greatly increases readability here.
00:08:275 (1) - Not sure if this is intended to be a dash to this or not, if it is, the distance is far too low, this would definitely get misread as a non-dash, considering this is over 32 pixels off being a dash, however if it's not intended to be a dash, the distance is far too strong for an average salad player. Either way, the emphasis on this slider is super weird anyway, as you have a dash to the head, and then the strongest note in the slider is on the repeat, both in terms of pitch and volume, and that just seems very strange.
00:10:344 (3,4,5) - Also really not a fan of how the flow on that feels for a salad, may be a bit too awkward to play, but this is a minor issue here. - I think this pattern is fine as it is simple to read for beginners. Changing this to patterns like curved circle paths or horizontal paths may be too strange or too difficult here, respectively.
00:11:034 (1) - Another one of those cases where it's either a really strong non-dash or a dash which can be avoided by around 32 pixels. x:376 would be a lot of a safer move here if the dash is intended, as I assume by the change in music, but I'm really not sure.
00:13:793 (1) - Considering the really strong distance to this, I assume it might be intended to be a dash, however, this is not only weaker than your previous dashes in terms of distance, but the sound in the song isn't even that strong. There's a possibility this wasn't intended to be a dash, but the distance is still ridiculously strong considering that.
00:15:172 (3) - Why would you not have a dash to this, considering you've had a dash to much weaker sounds throughout this? Emphasis on here is really strange. - Focusing on 00:15:172 (3,1) - instead, otherwise there will be too many HDashes here (only Kiai Time parts are supposed to be a bit denser)

Honestly, I think it's better for me to just list all the places where it seems dashes were intended, and tell you how to add distance to at least make them more readable for a salad player, so here you go:

List of dashes
00:16:551 (1) - x:24 would make this one still possible without dashing, but would make the readability greatly improved.
00:22:068 (1,2) - There is a dash distance that is ridiculously small and possible without dashing here, but the bigger problem is the obvious emphasis to the weaker sound rather than to the stronger sound here which makes very little sense from a playing standpoint, and even caused misses from me whilst playing this due to the rhythm sounding very off. I would recommend putting 1 on x:208.
00:24:827 (1,2) - Same emphasis problem here as well as the really low distancing. x:232 on 1 is possible without dashing but I think that's strong enough for a salad player to view it as a dash.
00:27:586 (1,2) - And again. 1 on x:240 would be nice.
00:33:103 (1) - Definitely too weak for a dash as it is now, could confuse players, x:384 would be better.
00:38:620 (1) - Far too weak and overly confusing distance as it is now, try x:192.
00:44:137 (1) - x:232 would still make it possible without dashing, but would definitely make it more visable as a dash to a salad player.
00:46:896 (1) - x:448 would make it more visable as a dash, this distance could definitely confuse a salad player.

00:19:310 (1) - Why such a strong distance to this? Not only is it very difficult to hit without dashing for a salad player, but there's near no note strong enough to emphasise this anywhere near this much here. Moving 00:18:965 (6) - to x:304 solves this problem, however you might want a different way to fix it, if you don't like the idea of holding right here. - Changed in another way.
00:30:344 (1) - Major consistency error here. You've used a dash to the 1/1 on almost all of these (Which I've specifically said you shouldn't, but if you deny those points then that makes this stand out even more), yet you use a slider end on the same sound here. I'd really recommend adding the dash to the slider head here, with consistency with my previous dash recommendations. - Making this part slightly easier so the dash at 00:31:206 (3,1) - can be accentuated well. Also I think it still follows the rhythm with different types of patterns, so is fine to go in my opinion.
00:31:551 (1) - I think a dash to this sound would be really fitting for the pitch change, however that might be difficult to achieve due to the wall being so close. However, the current distance is definitely too strong for an average salad player to hit and so should probably be reduced slightly.
00:35:862 (1) - Kinda difficult movement into this for a salad, especially considering the direction change in the slider, maybe try x:400? - That's a dash.
00:42:758 (1) - Feels kinda strong to play right now, very difficult to hit for a salad player without dashing, however I think this one wasn't intended to be a dash as it is an even lower distance than most of the other ones. x:272 would feel nicer to play. - ^

This mod is unfinished, but just want to post now to bring up a few of the issues in this map which show it being not ready for qualified, so we can slow this down a bit, giving more time to look over the set.

Thanks for the check!

Revised most of the parts throughout the whole difficulty. Most of the problems are related to the sense of dashing, where I have responded above (honestly dashing is needed for most of the cases if the players are standing straightly below each fruit, not at the edge). Please disqualify and update:

Update

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Kyouren

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Joined October 2012

Kyouren 2017-08-19T14:29:53+00:00

Wow, congratulations <3

Really nice CTB map!

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

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JBHyperion 2017-08-19T15:40:37+00:00

DQ upon creator request to make the mentioned changes to the [Salad] difficulty

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

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Ascendance 2017-08-19T16:02:40+00:00

I applied the changes above, but seriously, you know it's bad when you have to get a map qualified in order to get someone to post a mod :v

I very much respect your modding ability, but the reason I had it qualified in the first place was because out of the 4 nominators / QATs I asked, you were the only one who found issue in the salad difficulty, essentially making it a veto of sorts. Also, from what I heard, the map was a free-for-all because of it's high priority (note: high priority) so it didn't matter who was listed as long as it was qualified from my understanding

As of right now, we are currently holding back an official announcement from staff about the conclusion of this contest. I'd like to not hold them up any longer, so if we can resolve this issue quickly, that would be heavenly.

I updated AFB's new difficulty.

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Yuii-

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Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2017-08-19T16:19:34+00:00

I can get a ranked mapset before you get your 'Elite Mapper' title.

Congrats on DQ!

MBomb

MBomb 2017-08-19T17:54:41+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
I applied the changes above, but seriously, you know it's bad when you have to get a map qualified in order to get someone to post a mod :v

I very much respect your modding ability, but the reason I had it qualified in the first place was because out of the 4 nominators / QATs I asked, you were the only one who found issue in the salad difficulty, essentially making it a veto of sorts. Also, from what I heard, the map was a free-for-all because of it's high priority (note: high priority) so it didn't matter who was listed as long as it was qualified from my understanding

As of right now, we are currently holding back an official announcement from staff about the conclusion of this contest. I'd like to not hold them up any longer, so if we can resolve this issue quickly, that would be heavenly.

I updated AFB's new difficulty.

But you even knew I was part way through my mod, as I had told you that? Just seems kinda stupid to get another BN when you know I'm already modding, and of course I wouldn't post an unfinished mod in normal circumstances, seems kinda stupid to me.

Whatever, will finish modding other difficulties in a bit when I'm more awake.

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

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Ascendance 2017-08-19T18:05:51+00:00

Flourite approached me saying that they were going to qualify though, I see no reason to decline them when the mapset was not belonging to anyone specifically, as the QATs said.

MBomb

MBomb 2017-08-19T18:10:46+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
Flourite approached me saying that they were going to qualify though, I see no reason to decline them when the mapset was not belonging to anyone specifically, as the QATs said.

You should see "There's a BN who is partway through a mod" as a reason to decline someone though...

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

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Topic Starter

Ascendance 2017-08-19T18:12:26+00:00

Holding back an official announcement isn't exactly on my to-do list though. Poke me when you've finished your mod so I can reply properly!

MBomb

MBomb 2017-08-20T08:25:13+00:00

Finishing mod here now, let's see. (also just saying i swear there's something about disneyland said at 00:06:896 - )

[Salad]

00:11:034 (1) - This one still feels a bit small, try x:368 maybe?
00:13:793 (1) - Same with this one, x:480 would be nicer.
00:20:689 (1) - Also still a bit small, try x:380.
00:21:896 (6,1,2) - Emphasis issue here which you didn't respond to in my mod so I assumed it was fixed, but 1 is definitely a lot stronger than 2, 2 is very weak in comparison to the notes around it, let alone the strong downbeat on 1.
00:24:654 (7,1,2) - Same as above.
00:27:413 (9,1,2) - And same again.
00:30:344 (1) - The slider you used here proves my point that the second note here is pretty weak, as you used it as a slider end, and even if you say that's to make a later dash easier, it still doesn't justify a complete change of timeline and patterning. Either way, a dash to this slider would be nicer, keeping it as a slider is still fine if you adjust above changes.
00:31:206 (3) - Maybe ctrl+G this slider and move it back to x:292, it would make the dash into the next note a lot easier to read.
00:32:586 (4) - Move this to x:168 to make the dash into the next note a lot more obvious to a salad player.
00:35:862 (1) - Bit more distancing would be nice to at least stop this from looking like a normal movement, x:464 works fine.
00:38:620 (1) - x:200 please to make this look a bit less like a normal movement.
00:39:827 (3) - Having such a high distance to this sounds strange and inconsistent with previous movements considering you usually used a moderately weak distancing here. Try x:92 with a slightly stronger curve to the left to keep current flow afterwards.
00:42:758 (1) - Very strong distancing for such a weak sound, but I guess you might be intending a dash here for sudden change in emphasis. If that's the case, make the dash more obvious by moving it to x:352.
00:44:137 (1) - Make the 1/2 dash more obvious here by increasing the distance to something like x:232, could be very confusing for a salad player right now.
00:48:275 (4) - Considering the strong pitch on this, maybe consider doing a dash to it? You may not have wanted to, to avoid dash density from being too high, but I think in the kiai this is fine. x:448 would make it work well.
00:53:793 (4) - Maybe make the dash distancing a bit more obvious and consistent by increasing it to x:484.
00:59:310 (3) - Similar thing to 00:48:275 (4) - , x:468 would work well for this one if you applied that one.
01:00:689 (1) - x:144 would be nice to be a more consistent dash distance.
01:02:068 (1) - Same as above, x:496 for this one.
01:03:448 (1) - And same again, x:64 on this.
01:04:827 (1) - Again, this is a really weak sound, but I guess if you want to use a dash for the sudden emphasis change, you could increase the distance to make the dash more obvious for a salad player, x:244 works well.
01:06:206 (1) - Could try x:492 on this with a more leftward curve, to make the dash more obvious there.
01:08:965 (1) - x:364 on this would make the dash a lot more obvious.
01:11:724 (1) - And on this one, a dash would be nice for the change in line, x:336 could work well.
01:14:482 (1) - A dash to this would be consistent with previous dash patterns, maybe try something like x:304?
01:15:862 (3) - Maybe make a dash to this for the increasing pitch here and change from the normal synth musically here, could be emphasised nicely with a ctrl+G and then moving this to x:64.
01:17:241 (1) - Really strong sound here that could be emphasised with a dash, I would recommend something like x:368 to make it comfortable.
01:20:000 (1) - Would be nice to have a dash for this for strong consistent dash patterns, x:296 would be good.
01:22:758 (1) - Dash to this would be nice not only for consistency reasons, but also for the sudden change in the music at this note. x:112 would be great.
01:28:275 (1) - x:480 would be nice on this just to make the dash a little more obvious.
01:31:034 (1) - Not really where I would expect a strong distance here, this entire section is quite weak musically so I think it'd be nice to just not have anymore dashes in this part except for the notes that really stick out. x:192 and then a bit of change on the slider to make the curve more leftward for nicer flow after the change would be nice.
01:37:758 (3) - Maybe make this one a dash by increasing the distance a tiny bit? The pitch is really strong here and it feels kinda underemphasised right now, x:160 would be good.
01:39:137 (6) - Don't really think this note is strong enough to consistute a dash here, and I'd rather have a lower dash density in this section anyway just because it's a calmer part of the song. x:140 would be fine.
01:42:931 (1) - Not really sure what this spinner is mapped to at all? Probably better to just follow the synths here with two 1/2 repeat sliders over them.
01:47:586 (1) - Considering the small amount of movement in this slider after the dash, the movement could be confusing with such a weak dash into it, as it makes overdashing droplets a huge problem for lower skill players. x:444 fixes this problem in my opinion.
01:50:689 (1) - x:196 here would make the dash feel a lot more intuitive to play.
01:55:862 (1) - Try this on x:84, makes it more consistent with previous dash distances and usages, as well as making it sound better with the really strong emphasis change here.
02:00:000 (3) - A slightly higher distance on this would feel more like the direction change you were going for with the emphasis change here, x:304 would feel nicer to play I think.
02:06:896 (1) - Dash to this would be nice for the section change and sudden strong sound on this note, x:124 would be nice placement.
02:09:655 (1) - Dash to this would also be pretty good for consistency with previous dash patterns, x:296 seems good to me.
02:11:379 (4) - Having this a bit further out from the triple would feel nicer flow-wise to me, maybe do x:240?
02:12:413 (1) - Dash to this would be nice for the strong finish on this note, x:240 would work well here too.
02:13:620 (5,1,2) - Same emphasis problem as a lot earlier on in the map, 1 is undeniably a lot stronger than 2 here, so I would recommend having a dash to 1 to have the map more fitting with the song. It would also be more consistent with the rest of the section.
02:15:172 (1) - Dash to this would be pretty nice for the strong finish sound and buildup here, x:360 accomplishes it well.
02:17:931 (1) - Maybe try x:396 with a bit of adjustments to the curve to keep nice flow, I think adding a dash to this would nicely emphasise the start of the kiai.
02:22:068 (4) - Dash to this would be nice for the strong pitch and emphasis change. Try x:156 on it.
02:27:586 (3) - This note isn't really strong so having such a strong distance to it doesn't really make sense to me, and it's also inconsistent with your dash usages to have a strong distance here. Try a normal movement here instead.
02:28:965 (1) - Try x:52 for a more consistent dash distance here.
02:31:724 (1) - Same as above, something like x:420 would be good.
02:33:103 (6) - Strong emphasis on the pitch change and emphasis change would be nice, x:212 works well.
02:34:482 (1) - Very weak distance considering this should be a dash if you follow previous dash patterns, a placement like x:124 feels good.
02:37:241 (1) - Same with this one, x:88 would work well.
02:38:620 (1) - This note feels pretty weak to me and I wouldn't recommend a dash to it, but if you're certain you want that kind of movement to it for the emphasis change, a slight increase on the distancing would be nice, x:220 could work.
02:40:000 (1) - x:428 could work well as a dash for this note, you even emphasised it with an extra kiai time so it seems strange to leave this as a non-dash.
02:42:758 (1) - Add a dash to this for consistency with earlier in the map, dash pattern would be nicer if it was consistent here, x:256 could work.
02:44:655 (5) - Very weak distance to the next dash, plus, the synth change here I feel calls for a bit more distance, so moving this slider to x:308 would feel very nice.
02:48:275 (1) - Stronger distance to the dash here would feel nicer to play, x:52 could work, and then make the curve more rightward to keep nice flow afterwards.
02:51:034 (1) - Strong dash could work here for the section change here, x:168 would feel good to play.
02:53:793 (1) - Dash to this for consistent dash pattern please, x:252 manages it well.
02:56:551 (1) - Stronger movement here for the section change would be nice, x:268 is good.
03:02:068 (1) - Dash to this for the synth would sound good, x:428 fits nicely.
03:06:034 (4) - Try a dash to this for the strong pitch change here, x:496 is nice.
03:07:931 (1) - Hmm, a bit difficult to make a dash to this right now considering it's right next to the wall, however, following dash patterns it would make sense. Maybe try a direction change here and do x:360?
03:10:172 (8,1,2) - Dash being to 1 instead of to 2 would make more sense here again, both for consistency and also for the emphasis in the song.
03:11:551 (1) - Really strong pitch change here that could be nicely emphasised by a dash, try x:368 on it.
03:12:931 (5) - Dash to this could be nice to emphasise the end of the map, it's a pretty strong sound too so it can work well, x:452 is nice.

[Platter]

00:08:275 (1) - Pretty strong pitch change here, I feel as though a slightly higher distance would be nice to better emphasise it, x:192 is good.
00:15:172 (1) - Same with here, x:288 would be nice.
00:19:827 (4,5,6) - I think it'd be nice to maybe include the high pitched synth on 4 and the repeat of 6 in your emphasis somehow.
00:52:931 (2) - Stronger distance to this would feel nice for the high pitched chime, x:208 would work good.
01:10:344 (5) - A dash to this to emphasise how the synth changes could be cool, x:152 with a more rightward curve would be a nice way to achieve that.
01:21:379 (4) - Same as the above point, although this one's quite a bit more difficult to achieve due to the type of pattern used here.
01:44:827 (1) - x:416 would be a nice distance increase to emphasise the change in synth and the sudden volume increase.
02:16:379 - Whilst it's not necessary because the salad is a gd, I think it'd be quite nice to map out the synths here, like AFB did in the salad, and then have a HDash to the start of the kiai.
02:44:138 (3) - Dash to this could be nice for the synth change in this section, x:336 with a more leftward curve feels nice.
02:55:172 (4) - Again, dash to this for the synth change would be nice, although again, a bit more difficult to achieve right now.

[Rain]

00:15:172 (2) - Current distancing to this feels a little too easy to overdash to me if you follow flow, something like x:208 would feel slightly nicer to me.
00:19:827 (2) - Could be nice to have a bigger distance for the strong high pitch on this, up to you.
01:33:793 (1) - HDash to this could be nice for the strong pitch and section change, if you want.

[Disneyland]

00:15:172 (1) - Something like x:152 would be nice to emphasise the high pitched chime.
00:19:827 (4,7) - Would be nice to have dashes to these for emphasis on the high pitched chimes too in my opinion.
00:52:931 (4) - HDash to this would be good for how strong this high pitched chime is and also for consistency with the second kiai.
01:05:517 (5) - I think considering this is the finale of the kiai and there's two really strong drum beats, having a HDash to this followed by a HDash to where the repeat currently is, and then that as a 1/2 slider, could work well.
01:33:793 (1) - HDash for the section change would be fitting in my opinion.
02:39:310 (1) - Same as 01:05:517 (5) - .

Alright, done.

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2017-08-20T09:15:52+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Finishing mod here now, let's see. (also just saying i swear there's something about disneyland said at 00:06:896 - )

[Platter]

00:08:275 (1) - Pretty strong pitch change here, I feel as though a slightly higher distance would be nice to better emphasise it, x:192 is good. sure
00:15:172 (1) - Same with here, x:288 would be nice. did a little lower than that since I don't want to crowd it against the wall
00:19:827 (4,5,6) - I think it'd be nice to maybe include the high pitched synth on 4 and the repeat of 6 in your emphasis somehow. I originally had that, but after a slight rework of the section, I changed it to the background emphasis we have now, with the attempt to bring out mainly 00:20:689 (1,2,3) - .
00:52:931 (2) - Stronger distance to this would feel nice for the high pitched chime, x:208 would work good. sure
01:10:344 (5) - A dash to this to emphasise how the synth changes could be cool, x:152 with a more rightward curve would be a nice way to achieve that. that slider was ugly as fuck
01:21:379 (4) - Same as the above point, although this one's quite a bit more difficult to achieve due to the type of pattern used here. i tried
01:44:827 (1) - x:416 would be a nice distance increase to emphasise the change in synth and the sudden volume increase. ya and tilted it a bit more to catch it better
02:16:379 - Whilst it's not necessary because the salad is a gd, I think it'd be quite nice to map out the synths here, like AFB did in the salad, and then have a HDash to the start of the kiai. yeah for my diffs, I gradually built up the density here to have the sliders for the synths only in the overdose
02:44:138 (3) - Dash to this could be nice for the synth change in this section, x:336 with a more leftward curve feels nice. si
02:55:172 (4) - Again, dash to this for the synth change would be nice, although again, a bit more difficult to achieve right now. ok I tried again lol

[Rain]

00:15:172 (2) - Current distancing to this feels a little too easy to overdash to me if you follow flow, something like x:208 would feel slightly nicer to me. sure
00:19:827 (2) - Could be nice to have a bigger distance for the strong high pitch on this, up to you. seems okay to me but i made the angle a tiny bit more sharp to accentuate it
01:33:793 (1) - HDash to this could be nice for the strong pitch and section change, if you want. gonna keep it how it is since the sound is rather quiet

[Disneyland]

00:15:172 (1) - Something like x:152 would be nice to emphasise the high pitched chime. did 160 instead!
00:19:827 (4,7) - Would be nice to have dashes to these for emphasis on the high pitched chimes too in my opinion. stuff
00:52:931 (4) - HDash to this would be good for how strong this high pitched chime is and also for consistency with the second kiai. indeed
01:05:517 (5) - I think considering this is the finale of the kiai and there's two really strong drum beats, having a HDash to this followed by a HDash to where the repeat currently is, and then that as a 1/2 slider, could work well. I think I did it, but if I didn't, I did what I felt was best
01:33:793 (1) - HDash for the section change would be fitting in my opinion. Same thing as the rain!
02:39:310 (1) - Same as 01:05:517 (5) - . yolo

Alright, done.

Thanks!

autofanboy

Elite Mapper / osu!trivium Champion

1,576 posts

Joined January 2011

autofanboy 2017-08-20T09:50:19+00:00

Thanks for mod, not going to reply to each point but I have read through all of them and made several amendments.

Distance-fixing mostly. The suggestions made can ensure that players must dash to reach certain notes, BUT I think these jumps can be smaller so beginners can have more time to react, which is a bit more lenient. Not really treating them like edge cases and EVERYONE plays like a pro standing at edges and ninja walk.

Not using 1/1 dashes at buildup section except the stanza transitions, since it will be too hard for beginners.

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MBomb

MBomb 2017-08-20T10:12:18+00:00

quick recheck on salad, arranged other stuff in irc with ascendance

Only mentioning the more severe issues this time.

[Salad]

00:08:275 (1) - This one's far too lenient, increase a tiny bit.
On the parts where I told you to use a 1/2 dash instead, but you didn't want to make it more complex, I'd say to just get rid of the dash altogether, having the dash to such a weak note is confusing to the player. Won't list every one since you know which sections I mean.
00:31:551 (1) - Increase this one just a tiny bit more too.
00:48:275 (4) - Very minor increase on this one too.
00:59:310 (3) - And on this one.
01:17:241 (1) - Small increase on this one too please.
01:42:931 (1) - Spinner still feels kinda off, could you give an explanation on it please.
02:11:379 (4) - Still think this triple feels a bit weird too, please increase this to like x:236.
02:12:413 (1) - This one I'd still say needs a bit of an increase.
02:16:379 (1) - This one too.
02:22:068 (4) - And this one.
02:51:034 (1) - Another one that could do with a very slight distance increase.
02:56:551 (1) - This one especially considering the section change.
03:06:034 (4) - Slight increase on this please.
03:10:689 (2) - Doesn't really need a dash to it, make it a normal movement please for consistency.
03:11:551 (1) - This one could do with a slight increase especially considering the strong pitch.
03:12:931 (5) - And this one considering it's the final note.

autofanboy

Elite Mapper / osu!trivium Champion

1,576 posts

Joined January 2011

autofanboy 2017-08-20T10:26:56+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
quick recheck on salad, arranged other stuff in irc with ascendance

Only mentioning the more severe issues this time.

[Salad]

00:08:275 (1) - This one's far too lenient, increase a tiny bit. - Done
On the parts where I told you to use a 1/2 dash instead, but you didn't want to make it more complex, I'd say to just get rid of the dash altogether, having the dash to such a weak note is confusing to the player. Won't list every one since you know which sections I mean. - I only added dash at 00:21:896 (6,1) - , others remain the same (tapping dash button at the prominent beat is also a type of emphasis so I don't think it is confusing), changed 00:30:344 (1,2,3) - a bit so this whole part is coherent and consistent.
00:31:551 (1) - Increase this one just a tiny bit more too. - Fine.
00:48:275 (4) - Very minor increase on this one too.
00:59:310 (3) - And on this one.
01:17:241 (1) - Small increase on this one too please.
01:42:931 (1) - Spinner still feels kinda off, could you give an explanation on it please. - Started on 01:43:103 - instead so it matches the beat.
02:11:379 (4) - Still think this triple feels a bit weird too, please increase this to like x:236. - Increased a bit.
02:12:413 (1) - This one I'd still say needs a bit of an increase.
02:16:379 (1) - This one too.
02:22:068 (4) - And this one.
02:51:034 (1) - Another one that could do with a very slight distance increase.
02:56:551 (1) - This one especially considering the section change.
03:06:034 (4) - Slight increase on this please.
03:10:689 (2) - Doesn't really need a dash to it, make it a normal movement please for consistency. - Seems fair.
03:11:551 (1) - This one could do with a slight increase especially considering the strong pitch.
03:12:931 (5) - And this one considering it's the final note.

Thanks! Hopefully the very last.

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