16:07 zigizigiefe: boi
16:07 zigizigiefe: i need you for playtest
16:07 zigizigiefe: and maybe quick irc :U
16:07 Greenshell: sure
16:08 zigizigiefe: inb4 meta map
16:08 *zigizigiefe is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1356668 DragonForce - WAR!]
16:08 Greenshell: WAR!
16:08 Greenshell: wait how the fuck do you make 7* maps outta df songs
16:08 Greenshell: thats not appropiate
16:14 zigizigiefe: from new album
16:14 zigizigiefe: BOI
16:14 zigizigiefe: no it is
16:14 *zigizigiefe is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/690886 DragonForce - Fury of the Storm]
16:14 zigizigiefe: :thonk:
16:14 Greenshell: uh
16:14 zigizigiefe: inb4 "KIAI IS TOO REPETITIVE BAKA"
16:14 Greenshell: I guess it's clean for what it is
16:15 Greenshell: but you pretty much mapped only 1/3 of the actual song and copy-pasted the rest of it
16:15 Greenshell: tbf, the song is repetitive as hell
16:15 Greenshell: but still, some variations here and there wouldn't hurt
16:15 Greenshell: it gets really stale in the first kiai already
16:16 Greenshell: also you should fix the intro
16:16 Greenshell: overlapping notes are reeeeeeee
16:17 zigizigiefe: it's based on kddkddkdk
16:17 zigizigiefe: what variation are you talking about :U
16:17 zigizigiefe: hard to make it various tbh
16:20 Greenshell: 01:10:950 (323,324,325,326) - this second 1/6 doesn't exist in the song
16:20 zigizigiefe: the keyboard sound calls for it
16:20 zigizigiefe: checked midi file of it tbh
16:20 Greenshell: 01:10:950 (323,324,325,326) - only this one tbh
16:20 Greenshell: ehhh
16:20 Greenshell: 01:10:643 (318,319,320,321) -
16:20 Greenshell: this
16:20 zigizigiefe: there's a pattern type that i don't know how it is called
16:21 zigizigiefe: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFr639IOpbc just watch it]
16:22 Greenshell: even then I'd just make it a 1/6 7-plet instead of 2 quadruplets
16:22 zigizigiefe: it was 1/6 kkkdddkkkddd at first time
16:23 Greenshell: something like (kkkddd)kkddk
16:23 Greenshell: would work better imo
16:23 zigizigiefe: don't wanna change it tbh
16:24 zigizigiefe: i wanna make more ppl rage
16:24 zigizigiefe: like catgirl or garpo :^)
16:24 Greenshell: 01:13:950 (363) - why no kat, piano thing is pretty high pitched here already
16:24 Greenshell: would also help making people tilt
16:25 zigizigiefe: that's what i need
16:25 zigizigiefe: V A R I A T I O N
16:25 zigizigiefe: applied ofc :^)
16:25 Greenshell: HNGHHHHH
16:25 Greenshell: :weary: :sweat_drops:
16:26 zigizigiefe: :V
16:27 Greenshell: 01:24:259 (69) - if you wanna keep the first note of the 5plet kat then change this to don pls
16:27 Greenshell: gives vocals and guitar more impact
16:29 zigizigiefe: 01:19:259 (20,21,22,23,24) - it's dkkkd and i had to increase kat count on 01:24:182 (68,69,70,71,72) - as i did for 00:59:566 (201,202,203,204,205) -
16:30 Greenshell: o
16:30 Greenshell: makes sense yea
16:31 Greenshell: 02:08:335 (439,440) - ctrl+g deez
16:31 Greenshell: works better with the guitar pitch
16:34 Greenshell: 02:15:027 (524) - could be a kat tbh, since you skipped the high pitch on the downbeat already for the kdkkdkkkd pattern to work it'd flow much better and also somewhat keeps up with the guitar
16:34 zigizigiefe: 02:08:181 (437,438,439,440,441,442) - is somehow connected with 02:08:797 (445,446,447,448,449,450) -
16:34 zigizigiefe: kkkdkkd and kdkdkkd
16:35 zigizigiefe: makes sense.. i guess
16:35 zigizigiefe: 02:14:950 (523,524,525) - there's no that big pitch difference tbh
16:36 Greenshell: 02:16:489 (541,542,543,544) - remove that 1/6, doesn't really appear in the song and no the guitar isn't somehow faster than 1/4 like you argued on monosukoishi :v
16:36 Greenshell: also sorta breaks emphasis consistency regarding the real idk what sound that is
16:36 Greenshell: 02:17:104 (548,549,550,551) - this one
16:36 Greenshell: which makes more sense as 1/6
16:36 zigizigiefe: that 1/6 was fruko's suggestion
16:37 zigizigiefe: cuz of drum
16:38 Greenshell: the 1/6 drum starts 02:16:643 - here though
16:38 Greenshell: if at all
16:38 zigizigiefe: i just noticed it
16:38 zigizigiefe: yeas
16:38 zigizigiefe: yea*
16:39 Greenshell: and since you prioritize the guitar it's uh pretty wayne anyway if you skip 1/6 in the song that aren't really noticeable due to the hitsound volume that follows the guitar
16:39 Greenshell: *1/6 of the drums
16:39 zigizigiefe: wait i have an idea for 02:17:104 -
16:40 zigizigiefe: [https://zigi.s-ul.eu/9ZkGGB9C koishit intensifies]
16:40 Greenshell: nibba
16:40 Greenshell: what
16:40 Greenshell: that pattern is fine as it is tbh
16:41 zigizigiefe: this one is more various
16:41 zigizigiefe: rip sr
16:41 Greenshell: also about kiai repetition#
16:41 Greenshell: I though of something like
16:42 Greenshell: 01:48:796 (207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215) - this one as kddkkdkdk
16:42 Greenshell: 01:53:719 (264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272) - this one as kddkddkdk
16:42 Greenshell: for example
16:42 Greenshell: and repeat it like that
16:42 Greenshell: to make it at least a bit less stale but still consistent enough
16:43 zigizigiefe: for third one? :U
16:43 Greenshell: uh go with the first one again
16:43 Greenshell: so 1, 2, 1
16:43 Greenshell: and if you like do it vice versa in the 2nd kiai
16:43 zigizigiefe: oh
16:43 Greenshell: so 2, 1, 2
16:43 zigizigiefe: tru
16:43 zigizigiefe: my bad
16:44 Greenshell: excessive repetition was the reason trickl4sh was veto'd for some time
16:44 Greenshell: and I can see that happening to this map too tbh
16:44 Greenshell: although you won't have to worry about chromoxx since he won't touch df ever again :^)
16:46 zigizigiefe: did you know he doesn't nominate df because of my map he nominated before :^)
16:46 zigizigiefe: and veto'd by raiden in an hour :U
16:46 Greenshell: ah this one
16:46 Greenshell: tho he still bubbled scars of yesterday afterwards i think?
16:46 zigizigiefe: yeah
16:46 Greenshell: 02:13:950 - why did you skip this note
16:47 Greenshell: that's a pretty clean 1/4 sound to my ears
16:47 zigizigiefe: don't want to connect with a simple 5plet and a stream that covers the entire measure
16:47 zigizigiefe: brb
16:59 zigizigiefe: back
17:04 zigizigiefe: where are you boi
17:07 Greenshell: aaaaaa
17:07 zigizigiefe: donde eres boi
17:07 zigizigiefe: neredesin boi
17:07 zigizigiefe: aa back
17:08 zigizigiefe: donde estas*
17:08 zigizigiefe: I FORGOT MOST OF MY SPANISH KNOWLEDGE
17:08 Greenshell: SAME DUDE
17:09 Greenshell: btw i love the combination of harsh + clean vocals in this song
17:10 zigizigiefe: dem
17:10 zigizigiefe: it's as clean as koishit
17:10 zigizigiefe: or unhoyl warcry
17:11 zigizigiefe: idk actually
17:11 Greenshell: 03:28:489 (319,320,321,322,323,324,325,326,327,328,329,330) - uh I think you can improve this pattern
17:11 zigizigiefe: if ready for rank as it is
17:11 Greenshell: the kkkdkkd is pretty awkward with the vocals imo
17:11 zigizigiefe: yeah
17:11 zigizigiefe: i think so
17:12 Greenshell: I'd normally say kkdkkdkdkkd instead but I don't think that'd go along well with your structure
17:13 zigizigiefe: that stream was based on improvising
17:17 Greenshell: :thonk:
17:18 zigizigiefe: vocal and guitar
17:18 zigizigiefe: changed a bit tho
17:18 Greenshell: :ok_hand:
17:18 Greenshell: it's moddingv1 right?
17:18 zigizigiefe: yeah :3c
17:18 Greenshell: HNGHHHHHH
17:19 Greenshell: internal nutting intensifies
17:19 Greenshell: 03:38:335 (443) - why slider and not more 1/8 doublets :thonk:
17:20 zigizigiefe: wait
17:21 zigizigiefe: need to check it
17:21 Greenshell: nvm
17:21 Greenshell: the sounds are actually 1/4
17:21 Greenshell: so slider fits
17:23 zigizigiefe: i thought doublets were over tremolo sounds
17:23 zigizigiefe: not slide :thonk:
17:24 Greenshell: 03:39:181 (447) - i know u probably don't want to do this but at least consider changing this to d, kkkdddk matches the guitar way better than kkkkddk
17:24 zigizigiefe: applied ofc
17:24 zigizigiefe: represents here better
17:24 Greenshell: dem
17:26 Greenshell: 03:45:412 (523,524,525,526) - these 1/6 felt kinda out of place, the guitar sounds aren't nearly as fast as on the other 1/6 notes within the stream
17:26 Greenshell: nvm
17:26 Greenshell: I'm deaf
17:26 zigizigiefe: not really
17:26 zigizigiefe: nvm
17:26 zigizigiefe: you're deif
17:27 Greenshell: though the 1/6 seems to occur 03:45:566 - here instead of 03:45:412 -
17:27 Greenshell: but that'd probably play like shit
17:27 zigizigiefe: you're right but it was to be consistent to 03:43:873 (501,502,503,504,505,506,507,508,509) - or sth else
17:28 Greenshell: 03:48:489 - OH THIS STREAM STARTS ON THE OFFHAND
17:28 Greenshell: THAT'S WHY I MISSED
17:30 zigizigiefe: ye
17:30 zigizigiefe: that was to make people suffer :^)
17:31 Greenshell: 04:18:104 - could remove this note to give the drums on 04:18:181 - more impact
17:31 Greenshell: since this is the only actual occasion of 1/4 notes occuring here
17:33 zigizigiefe: should be consistent with 04:15:412 (730,731,732,733,734,735,736) -
17:33 zigizigiefe: you're right too
17:37 Greenshell: huh
17:37 Greenshell: I guess that's it from my side
17:37 zigizigiefe: dem
17:38 zigizigiefe: pls post the irc log .w.
17:38 zigizigiefe: needs sp
17:38 Greenshell: make sure to do something to avoid too much repetition at least :v
17:38 zigizigiefe: need*
17:38 Greenshell: other than that the map seems pretty solid actually
17:38 zigizigiefe: yeah
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