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I know your taiko diffs are incomplete but I kind want to mod what I can

Top taiko
  1. Since a lot of places follow the vocals and with the way the beginning is I think it would be best to follow the vocals for the entire intro. So for places like 00:03:814 (9) and 00:08:100 (22) etc it would be ideal for you to follow the pitch of the vocals and turn them kats. I also think it would be ideal to take out the finishes in the intro as they're aren't really necessary and feel a bit forced whilst playing
  2. 00:18:927 (51) - I would move this to 00:18:777 as it makes more sense to map the beginning of the sound rather than the end. Optionally you can make it into a 1/8 triplet http://puu.sh/wG7z4/ee315fa907.jpg
  3. If you can find a way to manipulate the SVs of the red timing points with green lines that would be great, it feels really weird when reading them lol. Maybe ask arrival what he thinks about them
    These points can be applied to the other diff

Normal
  1. 00:17:364 (1) - I think it would be better to omit this circle and just have the spinner start here instead. The sound here seems a bit tricky to acc due to the nature of the timing and also because most lower diffs tend to have the spinner start on sounds
  2. 00:32:360 - You should really be mapping this sound imho. You've mapped this (orchestra?) sound everywhere in this section apart from here
  3. 00:53:015 (7,1) - Not a rule but stacking objects under slider ends in lower diffs tend to play bad for players. same goes for 01:00:884 (5,1) and other places. Though it is acceptable i just wanted to point it out anyways
  4. 01:28:425 (6) - ^ definitely not for 1/2 beats at the very least :p
  5. 01:04:327 (2) - really minor aesthetics thing. This is closer to 3 than 1 so if you could get it in the middle it would look nice and neat
  6. 01:06:048 (1,2,3,4,5) - Im sure what to think of this. It does really tricky/awkward to play yet at the same time I don't have any feasible suggestions to change orz
  7. 01:07:769 (1,2) - Mapping this as a 1/1 slider would be nicer imo. The long slider would map the long held vocal quite nicely. I also think this should have a different rhythm than 01:08:753 (3,4) as the vocals there are really different but the rhythm is the same http://puu.sh/wG7RO/9ebe089d0b.jpg
  8. Your NC patterns are inconsistent yet consistent at the same time xd . I think I can see the logic in most of them but I do think some might be a case of the collabers not paying attention to the other person's parts, ie some combos are 2 measures long and some are 1.

Easy
  1. 00:13:993 (6,1) - I recommend not doing stacks at all in easy diffs
  2. 00:33:097 (4,5) - minor thing. It would look better if you could make these objects not touch ever so slighty
  3. 00:36:294 (7) - Rhythm-wise, this slider feels like a sin with the way it glosses over the dominant sounds whilst mapping almost non existent ones. I would either extend it to 00:37:769 or just map it as a circle
  4. 01:39:245 (1) - If you could map the anchor points to the blue ticks (the drum beats) this slider would play to the song much better. look at the timeline and position of the anchor points in the slider. current slider --> http://puu.sh/wG8r9/3a5970fbb2.jpg my suggestion --> http://puu.sh/wG8q3/e592b6dfe4.jpg
  5. Perhaps review the NCs? The lengths vary greatly here
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That's all im modding atm, you can ask me again later if my mods dont give you ebola
timemon
yeeee
[Mirtoshi's Extreme]
00:28:900 (2,3,4) - the spacing is very extreme here, I suggest you reduce it a bit.
00:34:310 (1,2,3) - ^
00:31:605 (6) - this object is too close imo as the players won't be following the slider to the end.
00:39:105 (3,4) - previously the map has a very large 1/4 gap spacing but on this note it's very small. It's even the same as 00:40:580 (2,3) - . When the former is quite stronger in sound
01:05:047 (4) - doesn't follow the slider track nazi mod

01:27:670 - I suggest adding a note here as it will help keeping the flow and momentum better. This will surely trip the player off as they expect objects to have 1/2 or 1/4 gaps not 3/4.
01:31:605 - ^

01:36:031 (4,5,6) - this angle is awkward and breaks the flow. I notice other spaced 1/4 do not break the flow in the map.
01:51:523 (3) - line up with the other circles perhaps?
01:56:687 (8,9,1) - I suggest ctrl+H these.

[Naohuri's Hard]
00:58:671 (3) - switch to a triplet with 1/2 slider under maybe?
01:27:442 (1) - I find the angle on this slider a bit too wide and it makes the slider look a bit weird

[Naotai's Normal]
00:41:212 (5) - you have been following the vocal but why suddenly switch to the instrument. should add a circle on the white tick and then 1/2 slider on the red tick after. it sounds weird to have the vocal pops out mid slider
00:43:179 (2) - ^
01:20:064 (4) - switch to circles? it's given the same emphasis as the previous slider when this one is quite stronger.
01:40:966 (3,1) - You only stack 1/1 rhythms. This is the first time a 1/2 rhythm is stacked and it's near the end of the map. Might just unstack it like other 1/2 rhythms.

[Kibbtoshi's Easy]
00:46:130 (1) - I think this slider is a bit too complex for newbie as it conceals its sliderend a bit. New player might release this slider too early. Make the tail clearer like 01:44:409 (3) -

Easy diff is well really easy, I think it might even be too easy for people who just start playing osu! lol
Ps. Why is the final diff named Extreme? shouldn't it be Insane?

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Nao Tomori

timemon wrote:

yeeee
[Mirtoshi's Extreme]
00:28:900 (2,3,4) - the spacing is very extreme here, I suggest you reduce it a bit. all no change >:(
00:34:310 (1,2,3) - ^
00:31:605 (6) - this object is too close imo as the players won't be following the slider to the end.
00:39:105 (3,4) - previously the map has a very large 1/4 gap spacing but on this note it's very small. It's even the same as 00:40:580 (2,3) - . When the former is quite stronger in sound
01:05:047 (4) - doesn't follow the slider track nazi mod its my style

01:27:670 - I suggest adding a note here as it will help keeping the flow and momentum better. This will surely trip the player off as they expect objects to have 1/2 or 1/4 gaps not 3/4. no, this follows the song better
01:31:605 - ^

01:36:031 (4,5,6) - this angle is awkward and breaks the flow. I notice other spaced 1/4 do not break the flow in the map.
01:51:523 (3) - line up with the other circles perhaps?
01:56:687 (8,9,1) - I suggest ctrl+H these.

[Naohuri's Hard]
00:58:671 (3) - switch to a triplet with 1/2 slider under maybe?
01:27:442 (1) - I find the angle on this slider a bit too wide and it makes the slider look a bit weird

[Naotai's Normal]
00:41:212 (5) - you have been following the vocal but why suddenly switch to the instrument. should add a circle on the white tick and then 1/2 slider on the red tick after. it sounds weird to have the vocal pops out mid slider
00:43:179 (2) - ^
01:20:064 (4) - switch to circles? it's given the same emphasis as the previous slider when this one is quite stronger.
01:40:966 (3,1) - You only stack 1/1 rhythms. This is the first time a 1/2 rhythm is stacked and it's near the end of the map. Might just unstack it like other 1/2 rhythms.

[Kibbtoshi's Easy]
00:46:130 (1) - I think this slider is a bit too complex for newbie as it conceals its sliderend a bit. New player might release this slider too early. Make the tail clearer like 01:44:409 (3) - meh i think its fine

Easy diff is well really easy, I think it might even be too easy for people who just start playing osu! lol
Ps. Why is the final diff named Extreme? shouldn't it be Insane? cuz in hachi hachi (the game this was composed for) the diff spread is easy normal hard extreme

Good luck!
thonx beb
Yahuri
osu file format v14

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00:53:999 - 01:09:737 - for future reference all of the sliders in this section are vertical/horizontal xd
Mentai
fixed the NCs in the entire map cuz they triggered me

also made some placements in my parts nicer

osu file format v14

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Title:Duet
TitleUnicode:Duet
Artist:Skytree
ArtistUnicode:Skytree
Creator:Naotoshi
Version:Naotai's Normal
Source:Hachi Hachi
Tags:kibbleru mentai yahuri mir rhythm video game
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Topic Starter
Nao Tomori

Kisses wrote:

I know your taiko diffs are incomplete but I kind want to mod what I can

Top taiko
  1. Since a lot of places follow the vocals and with the way the beginning is I think it would be best to follow the vocals for the entire intro. So for places like 00:03:814 (9) and 00:08:100 (22) etc it would be ideal for you to follow the pitch of the vocals and turn them kats. I also think it would be ideal to take out the finishes in the intro as they're aren't really necessary and feel a bit forced whilst playing
  2. 00:18:927 (51) - I would move this to 00:18:777 as it makes more sense to map the beginning of the sound rather than the end. Optionally you can make it into a 1/8 triplet http://puu.sh/wG7z4/ee315fa907.jpg
  3. If you can find a way to manipulate the SVs of the red timing points with green lines that would be great, it feels really weird when reading them lol. Maybe ask arrival what he thinks about them
    These points can be applied to the other diff
    arrival basically told me what to do here yea, it lined up pretty much with wht you said.

Normal
  1. 00:17:364 (1) - I think it would be better to omit this circle and just have the spinner start here instead. The sound here seems a bit tricky to acc due to the nature of the timing and also because most lower diffs tend to have the spinner start on sounds i think low diff players can look at the approach circle here. its a decently big rhythm gap compared to the constant 1/2 spam earlier so they wont just click in time
  2. 00:32:360 - You should really be mapping this sound imho. You've mapped this (orchestra?) sound everywhere in this section apart from here
  3. 00:53:015 (7,1) - Not a rule but stacking objects under slider ends in lower diffs tend to play bad for players. same goes for 01:00:884 (5,1) and other places. Though it is acceptable i just wanted to point it out anyways think 1/1 is fine
  4. 01:28:425 (6) - ^ definitely not for 1/2 beats at the very least :p
  5. 01:04:327 (2) - really minor aesthetics thing. This is closer to 3 than 1 so if you could get it in the middle it would look nice and neat
  6. 01:06:048 (1,2,3,4,5) - Im sure what to think of this. It does really tricky/awkward to play yet at the same time I don't have any feasible suggestions to change orz
  7. 01:07:769 (1,2) - Mapping this as a 1/1 slider would be nicer imo. The long slider would map the long held vocal quite nicely. I also think this should have a different rhythm than 01:08:753 (3,4) as the vocals there are really different but the rhythm is the same http://puu.sh/wG7RO/9ebe089d0b.jpg
  8. Your NC patterns are inconsistent yet consistent at the same time xd . I think I can see the logic in most of them but I do think some might be a case of the collabers not paying attention to the other person's parts, ie some combos are 2 measures long and some are 1.

Easy
  1. 00:13:993 (6,1) - I recommend not doing stacks at all in easy diffs
  2. 00:33:097 (4,5) - minor thing. It would look better if you could make these objects not touch ever so slighty
  3. 00:36:294 (7) - Rhythm-wise, this slider feels like a sin with the way it glosses over the dominant sounds whilst mapping almost non existent ones. I would either extend it to 00:37:769 or just map it as a circle
  4. 01:39:245 (1) - If you could map the anchor points to the blue ticks (the drum beats) this slider would play to the song much better. look at the timeline and position of the anchor points in the slider. current slider --> http://puu.sh/wG8r9/3a5970fbb2.jpg my suggestion --> http://puu.sh/wG8q3/e592b6dfe4.jpg
  5. Perhaps review the NCs? The lengths vary greatly here
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thanks!!
My Angel RangE
owo M4M

short English sorry :(
Reliance on translation xd

[Kibbtoshi's Easy]

Enable countdown remove cheek

and not used story board , Widescreen SUpport remove too Owo

unsanp and Ds cheek from aimod o/


00:03:278 (4,1) - it's overlap , Intention ?
00:08:636 (6) - ^ too
00:16:136 (3) - i think 00:15:064 (2) down put flow better
00:22:506 - ?! BPM -600 lol
00:24:492 (2) - Intention overlap owo?
00:42:196 (1,2,3) - Emphasis beat weak , slider - circle - slider - circle
00:47:360 (2) - ^ , 1/1 or Hinder 01:01:868 (1,2) hide same be consistent
00:53:507 - i feel Strong beat , add circle not that bad
01:01:868 (1) - it's overlap ? (maybe)
01:15:638 (1) - Basket error
01:26:459 (2) - ^ it's too
01:42:687 (1,2,3) - Unstable beat , Differently from beat 01:49:082 (1,2,3)[/box]

[Naotai's Normal]

it's easy same, Enable countdown remove cheek
and not used story board , Widescreen SUpport remove o/

00:03:278 (4) - Imprecise flow
00:03:813 (5) - snap error
00:32:114 (5) - midstream emphasis , and DS error
00:45:638 (7) - snap error ?
00:53:999 (1) - it's for normal give confusion pattern
01:01:868 (1) - it's too
01:23:507 (1) - snap error
01:28:425 (6) - i look overlap with 01:26:950 (4)
01:32:360 (2,1) - Ds error and 01:32:360 (2) this confusion pattern

[Naohuri's Hard]

same.

Enable countdown remove cheek
and not used story board , Widescreen SUpport remove owo

cheek aimod owo /

00:23:261 (5,6,7) - different beat , but same DS confusion
00:23:999 (7,1,2) - this too
00:27:933 (4) - I can hear beat 1/2 this why put 1/4 slider tail o/ ?
00:29:409 (4) - Awkward slider
00:34:327 (1) - i think 1/1 reverse beat will be better
00:41:458 (1,2,3) - I think the newcombo period is too short
00:47:605 (5) - overlap?
00:57:810 (5,1,2) - confusion pattern :V
01:18:466 (3,4,5) - it too owo
01:31:376 (1) - Basket error
01:56:950 (1) - far right rad tick out Plate

[Mirtoshi's Extreme]

Enable countdown remove cheek owo

00:04:064 (6,7) - I think it would be nice to highlight this part hide ex 00:08:350 (6,7)
00:08:618 (7) - Basket error
00:34:678 (2) - this ghost note ? same beat not found this beat
00:50:047 (1) - Basket error
00:55:703 (8) - i thank In conformity with 00:54:965 (6,7) tail / ex)
01:05:293 (5) - Basket error owo
01:09:474 (4,5,1) - same beat , but different Ds
01:13:408 (8,9,1) - this too o/
01:25:211 (7,1) - same 00:04:064 (6,7) this i thank
01:41:933 (4) - Basket error

goood luck o/

(1/2)
Firis Mistlud
m4m part 2

[General]


[Normal]

  • I think the rhythm and flow is fine tbh, but the intro is quite cramped despite that it's an slow part before BPM changes, and the slider is too fast for a normal after the change.
[Hard]
  1. AImod lol
  2. 01:03:818 (1) - (nazi) maybe flip it upside down? aesthetics
    Nothing major i have to point out
[Extreme]
  1. AImod
  2. 00:29:269 (3,4) - Spacing is fine, but can you at least adjust it so it can flow better and play less awkward?
  3. 00:39:105 (3,4) - maybe reduce the spacing here? this is the only large spacing with stack, at least in this part.
  4. 00:58:777 (3,4) - The spacing is really extreme and hard to read tbh, structure is okay but poorly configured in playability, reducing the spacing or use another rhythm could help too, as there has nothing to emphasize on 00:58:777 - imo
  5. 01:00:252 (2,3) - ^, at least have the spacing consistent with 00:58:777 (3,4) -
  6. 01:09:474 (4,5,1) - contrasting most of the triples on this map, this is really too extreme judging the type of triplets, not just it makes it really unexpected to most of the players, this makes too much emphasis on this triplet while the music doesn't show any clear, strong sound to have that much emphasis, maybe stacking here will be ok
  7. 01:11:441 (6,7,1) - 01:12:424 (3,4,5) - same triplet sound but major spacing difference, why?
  8. 01:13:531 (9) - (nazi) uneven spacing)
  9. 01:17:465 (8) - ^
    Are you sure this is supposed to be an Insane diff? cus it plays more like an extra to me

good luck~
defiance
this is literally the song i would always play on hachi hachi
nextplay

osuskrub wrote:

this is literally the song i would always play on hachi hachi
same

Naotoshi wrote:

Collab Taiko diffs with a baguette ?
now mod I actually only need kds

[Easy]

00:03:260 (4,5) - make them ctrl+g because the overlap don't look and the movement would be too hard for newbies a simpler and more linear flow would be better
00:07:010 (3,4,5) - This is imo a bit too dense for a clam section like this my suggestion would be making 00:05:939 (2) - a 2/1 slider or a 1/1 reverse
00:08:618 (5) - similar to the first point
00:08:618 (5,1) - make it a 1/1 and a circle at big white tick following vocals here with the reverse dosen't fit imo
00:24:474 (2,2) - overlap xd
00:55:948 (2,3) - shouldn't this be familiar with 00:53:982 (1) - the lyrics are different but the actually singing voice don't change here.
01:22:997 (6,7) - ctrl+g would follow vocal and instrumental better
01:39:227 (3) - A E S T H E T I C S ( and hard for newbies to follow imo)

[Normal]

00:12:368 (4,5,6,7,8) - this is too hard for a calm section imo
00:37:751 (5) - make this a single circle only? because the new section wouldn't be that noticeable while playing
01:28:407 (6) - ugly overlap

[]

gl
-[ Prxzm ]-
Song choice is terrible 0/10 choose new song kds please.



M I R T O S H I ' S E X T R E M E


Comments:
Mirtoshi's Extreme? More like Mirtoshi's Extremely boring. This beatmap is like most of my ex-girlfriends: Aesthetically attractive but lacks any personality or substance. And it's even lacking in aesthetics. We've seen better days in the life of Naotoshi. I still love you though.
Jokes aside, the map itself is aesthetically nice and the flow is smooth for the most part, though there are a few places in the map where the flow shifts for seemingly no reason. I have pointed them out and given recommendations, though ultimately it is your decision on whether you fix them or how you fix them. The map is pretty nice as it is.

Mod:
• This is more of an Insane diff rather than an "Extreme" diff. Even as far as SR goes, in DT it doesn't reach 5.25*. Change to "Mirtoshi's Insane"
• Look at AI Mod.
• 00:14:778 (3,4) - Not really a rankability issue moreso a flow/aesthetic issue. Since this map is really easy even in DT you can get away with it, but it causes a slightly uncomfortable snap in the wrist that changes direction extremely suddenly from the rest of the map, then goes back to being the same direction the rest of the map has been. If there was a subtle lead up to the directional change and if it weren't for just one note, it'd be easy to ignore, but this is an unnecessary change. I recommend changing the direction of the slider, though that would get rid of the aesthetic you were going for with the following slider. If you move the circle before it slightly northwest on the grid, you can move the slider to the sliderend of (6) and have a similar aesthetic whilst still changing the direction of the slider.
• 00:49:555 (7,1) - Good blanket. <3
• 00:57:424 (6,7,8,9,1) - No point in NCing the stream's end. NC the start of the stream (6) and delete the NC at the end.
• 01:05:047 (4,5) - This is extremely aesthetically displeasing. This style works on the rest of your sliders because they're small sliders, but on big sliders like this it just looks horrid. Considering you have a blanket of (3) to (5) already (a very nice blanket at that), move the circle northeast (preferably to x376 y192) to get rid of the ugly overlap whilst still keeping in flow with the map.
• 01:05:293 (5) - Very awkward directional flow change, though since the map is easy even in DT you can get away with it. If you do want to change it, though, just ctrl+h, ctrl+j the slider and relocate it.That would be the most pleasing change for flow, though for aesthetics (to keep that marvelous blanket) just ctrl+h, ctrl+shift+r, and relocate. Move the previous circle accordingly, of course.
• 01:22:014 (3,5,6,8) - These are all really cluttered. With HR it's not really much of a problem, but the AR by itself and even somewhat with DT raises a readability problem. I recommend slightly increasing the AR, though you could also just move the circles (not recommended).
• 01:32:096 (4,5,6) - Kind of an awkward flow from the previous duplet. I recommend an entire remap of just these three notes, then moving circles that are directly effected by the change accordingly. Personally, I would start the triplet on x72 y184 and have it move southeast. This creates the same zig-zag jumping pattern with an added subtle change to directional flow to introduce the following section.
• 01:47:096 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I like this very much. It is quite musically accurate and a great artistic choice.
• 01:54:474 (5,6,1) - Ugly. My recommendation would be to move the duplet underneath the sliderend, though that wouldn't thematically match the rest of the section, so I'll leave the decision to you. Just find a way to move the duplet to where it's not a weird slanted devilish triangle of some sort.
• 01:54:965 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,1) - Great way to end the map! :3
N A O H U R I ' S H A R D


Comments:
The flow of the map is really nice, though at the end it seems like you guys kinda just gave up on properly utilizing combos and threw them wherever. I pointed out all of the combo errors that I could catch, but there might be more. I'd go through and check combos again, making sure they're starting after rests and continuing throughout a measure either until the next rest or until the end of a long note, and especially not starting on the downbeat of the measure.

Mod:
• 00:13:439 (7,8,9) - This is aesthetically displeasing. I recommend making the 8 go under rather than over. Either that or just have it a straight line, though that'd be boring.
• 00:17:346 (5) - I personally feel like newer players can't catch onto speed changes that well and would get frustrated at constantly hitting a 50 here, though I could be undervaluing them. It's not unrankable and doesn't seem like too much of a problem, so I leave this entirely up to your discretion. If you do change it, making the start of (4) a circle and the end of it the start of a slider that ends on the (5) would be a good change.
• 00:23:736 (6,7) - I know this is only a hard diff, but don't undervalue newbies this much. NC (6) and make its distance further away from the end of (5).
• 00:24:474 (1,2,3) - This is all musically incorrect. The best change I can recommend is NCing (1), putting a much quieter hitsound at the sliderend of (2), and cutting the size of (3) by half with another quiet sliderend, furthermore adding a 1/2 slider where the sliderend of (3) currently is. You have (3) ending on a strong beat and (4) on a soft beat.
• 00:24:719 (2) - Aesthetically displeasing. Move slightly east.
• 00:32:342 (1) - Increase distance between the previous slider and this.
• 00:38:736 (2) - Either NC this or put a distance change. This is a completely new section and it should be emphasized as such.
• 00:38:736 (2,3) - I recommend starting this section on a 1/2 slider with a circle at the end of it. A strong vocal is sounded in the middle of the slider and it's very noticeable. I understand that new players shouldn't be given too much at once (in this sense duplets or kicksliders), though when you add a duplet slider in this section 00:41:687 (2,3,1) - it should also be given in the previous section to keep consistent, especially when you mapped this duplet over nothing whilst the other section could be mapped over something.
• 00:58:408 (2) - NC or add a distance change.
• 01:03:818 (1) - Change the direction of this slider (ctrl+j), both for flow and aesthetic purposes.
• 01:13:162 (3) - NC.
• 01:19:064 (5) - NC.
• 01:19:555 (1) - This shouldn't need to be NC'd if (5) was a new combo.
• 01:21:031 (6) - NC.
• 01:21:523 (1) - Don't NC this.
• 01:22:260 (2) - NC.
• 01:27:424 (1,2,3) - This is ugly. Change the direction of the duplet or place it underneath the slider.
• 01:28:900 (4) - NC
• 01:29:392 (1) - Don't NC.
• 01:43:900 (3) - This slider isn't centered properly and it's very noticeable. Move the center joint slightly and it'll be fixed.
N A O T A I ' S N O R M A L


Comments:
There's a drastic difference in flow technique between the start and rest of the map. I left a large paragraph detailing it inside the mod. There are some very weird NC decisions during the chorus, too many to point out. I pointed out the main ones, but I recommend going back and fixing combos using the comment I left in the Hard difficulty mod.

Mod:
• 00:12:368 (4) - New Combo.
• 00:17:503 (1) - (I just picked the break between the two sections, this has nothing to do with the spinner). So, in this case this is mainly just a personal preference, but as I preach often, especially to new mappers (not calling you new mappers just saying I often find myself saying this to new mappers), is that a map's style shouldn't change, even if the song's style changes. What I mean is, if you choose to primarily follow a linear, snappy flow, then the entire map should be a linear, snappy flow; if you choose the latter, a curvy, natural flow, then the entire map should be such. Your map starts out very linear then suddenly changes to a curvy flow. It's not much of a problem because it's a lower difficulty and doesn't require high speed or precision, but flow consistency should still be put into practice across all difficulties. I recommend remapping the beginning of the song to stay consistent with the rest of the map.
• 00:36:276 (3,4,5) - This is very beautiful and fine as it is, I love it, but it might be a bit more beautiful if you make (5) a straight slider whilst still keeping it right between (3) and (4). Either way, I love it.
• 00:41:440 (5) - New Combo.
• 00:42:178 (1) - Should not be a New Combo.
• 00:43:407 (2) - New Combo.
• 00:58:653 (2) - Make this a 1/2 slider to match the vocals a bit better, then add a circle where the slider end currently is.
• 01:08:735 (5) - New Combo.
• 01:24:473 (6) - New Combo.
• 01:56:932 (1) - This note is very noticeably off rhythm.
K I B B I T O S H I ' S E A S Y


Comments:
I hate modding easy diffs. They're so slow and boring. T^T Just fix all the ugly overlaps pretty much.

Mod:
• 00:03:260 (4,1) - Ugly overlap.
• 00:04:332 (1,2) - Blanket these.
• 00:08:082 (5,6) - Ugly overlap.
• 00:16:118 (3) - Ctrl+J this slider then relocate it.
• 00:22:505 (1,2) - Ugly overlap.
• 00:31:850 (3) - This slider is horribly out of place in a musical sense. It starts on a very weak note and ends on a weak note. I recommend making it a 1/1 slider to keep in rhythm with the hitsound pattern going on then NCing the (4).
• 00:36:276 (3) - Add a spinner between all of this empty space to keep the map interesting and to give new players training on them. Make sure it ends 1/1 before the next note.
• 00:59:883 (4,1) - Ugly overlap.
• 01:10:702 (2,1) - Ugly overlap.
• 01:21:522 (4,5,6,7) - This is all such a very beautiful combo. I love it!
• 01:36:769 (6,1) - Ugly overlap.
• 01:56:933 (1) - Circle is off rhythm. Technically the circle should be on the blue tick after it.
Topic Starter
Nao Tomori

My Angel RangE wrote:

owo M4M

short English sorry :(
Reliance on translation xd

[Kibbtoshi's Easy]

Enable countdown remove cheek

and not used story board , Widescreen SUpport remove too Owo

unsanp and Ds cheek from aimod o/


00:03:278 (4,1) - it's overlap , Intention ?
00:08:636 (6) - ^ too
00:16:136 (3) - i think 00:15:064 (2) down put flow better
00:22:506 - ?! BPM -600 lol intentional
00:24:492 (2) - Intention overlap owo? yes
00:42:196 (1,2,3) - Emphasis beat weak , slider - circle - slider - circle this follows the piano tho
00:47:360 (2) - ^ , 1/1 or Hinder 01:01:868 (1,2) hide same be consistent
00:53:507 - i feel Strong beat , add circle not that bad yehaj
01:01:868 (1) - it's overlap ? (maybe)
01:15:638 (1) - Basket error
01:26:459 (2) - ^ it's too
01:42:687 (1,2,3) - Unstable beat , Differently from beat 01:49:082 (1,2,3)[/box]

[Naotai's Normal]

it's easy same, Enable countdown remove cheek
and not used story board , Widescreen SUpport remove o/

00:03:278 (4) - Imprecise flow its fine
00:03:813 (5) - snap error
00:32:114 (5) - midstream emphasis , and DS error
00:45:638 (7) - snap error ?
00:53:999 (1) - it's for normal give confusion pattern i think 1/1 stack is fine, i do it elswhere too
01:01:868 (1) - it's too
01:23:507 (1) - snap error
01:28:425 (6) - i look overlap with 01:26:950 (4) yea but its like completely faded out by the time the overlap happens
01:32:360 (2,1) - Ds error and 01:32:360 (2) this confusion pattern

[Naohuri's Hard]

same.

Enable countdown remove cheek
and not used story board , Widescreen SUpport remove owo

cheek aimod owo /

00:23:261 (5,6,7) - different beat , but same DS confusion
00:23:999 (7,1,2) - this too small jumps for visual emphasis
00:27:933 (4) - I can hear beat 1/2 this why put 1/4 slider tail o/ ?
00:29:409 (4) - Awkward slider
00:34:327 (1) - i think 1/1 reverse beat will be better
00:41:458 (1,2,3) - I think the newcombo period is too short
00:47:605 (5) - overlap? its my style >:(
00:57:810 (5,1,2) - confusion pattern :V yolo
01:18:466 (3,4,5) - it too owo
01:31:376 (1) - Basket error
01:56:950 (1) - far right rad tick out Plate not offscreen

[Mirtoshi's Extreme]

Enable countdown remove cheek owo

00:04:064 (6,7) - I think it would be nice to highlight this part hide ex 00:08:350 (6,7) that 1 is high pitched tho
00:08:618 (7) - Basket error
00:34:678 (2) - this ghost note ? same beat not found this beat i hear it
00:50:047 (1) - Basket error
00:55:703 (8) - i thank In conformity with 00:54:965 (6,7) tail / ex)
01:05:293 (5) - Basket error owo
01:09:474 (4,5,1) - same beat , but different Ds its ok, ppl can read
01:13:408 (8,9,1) - this too o/
01:25:211 (7,1) - same 00:04:064 (6,7) this i thank same
01:41:933 (4) - Basket error

goood luck o/

(1/2)

Firis Mistlud wrote:

m4m part 2

[General]

  • intended. all no change.
[Normal]

  • I think the rhythm and flow is fine tbh, but the intro is quite cramped despite that it's an slow part before BPM changes, and the slider is too fast for a normal after the change. well, i think the sv is fine cuz of the existence of an easy. intro is rather dense tho, will nerf.
[Hard]
  1. AImod lol
  2. 01:03:818 (1) - (nazi) maybe flip it upside down? aesthetics
    Nothing major i have to point out
[Extreme]
  1. AImod
  2. 00:29:269 (3,4) - Spacing is fine, but can you at least adjust it so it can flow better and play less awkward?
  3. 00:39:105 (3,4) - maybe reduce the spacing here? this is the only large spacing with stack, at least in this part.
  4. 00:58:777 (3,4) - The spacing is really extreme and hard to read tbh, structure is okay but poorly configured in playability, reducing the spacing or use another rhythm could help too, as there has nothing to emphasize on 00:58:777 - imo
  5. 01:00:252 (2,3) - ^, at least have the spacing consistent with 00:58:777 (3,4) -
  6. 01:09:474 (4,5,1) - contrasting most of the triples on this map, this is really too extreme judging the type of triplets, not just it makes it really unexpected to most of the players, this makes too much emphasis on this triplet while the music doesn't show any clear, strong sound to have that much emphasis, maybe stacking here will be ok
  7. 01:11:441 (6,7,1) - 01:12:424 (3,4,5) - same triplet sound but major spacing difference, why?
  8. 01:13:531 (9) - (nazi) uneven spacing)
  9. 01:17:465 (8) - ^
    Are you sure this is supposed to be an Insane diff? cus it plays more like an extra to me its called extreme tho xd also its rly low bpm so

good luck~

My Angel Kanan wrote:

osuskrub wrote:

this is literally the song i would always play on hachi hachi
same

Naotoshi wrote:

Collab Taiko diffs with a baguette ?
now mod I actually only need kds

[Easy]

00:03:260 (4,5) - make them ctrl+g because the overlap don't look and the movement would be too hard for newbies a simpler and more linear flow would be better
00:07:010 (3,4,5) - This is imo a bit too dense for a clam section like this my suggestion would be making 00:05:939 (2) - a 2/1 slider or a 1/1 reverse
00:08:618 (5) - similar to the first point
00:08:618 (5,1) - make it a 1/1 and a circle at big white tick following vocals here with the reverse dosen't fit imo
00:24:474 (2,2) - overlap xd
00:55:948 (2,3) - shouldn't this be familiar with 00:53:982 (1) - the lyrics are different but the actually singing voice don't change here.
01:22:997 (6,7) - ctrl+g would follow vocal and instrumental better cute pattern >:(
01:39:227 (3) - A E S T H E T I C S ( and hard for newbies to follow imo) the bounces are aligned with the song

[Normal]

00:12:368 (4,5,6,7,8) - this is too hard for a calm section imo
00:37:751 (5) - make this a single circle only? because the new section wouldn't be that noticeable while playing think this fits better
01:28:407 (6) - ugly overlap your mom is an ugly overlap

[]

gl
thanks!
RVMathew
Part 2 of the m4m deal. I lost some previous mod stuff due to my computer crashing but I think I should remember them all.
General:
Fix AI mod issues ie. tags, uninherited timing points being in conflict with other diffs
Consider adding combo colours.
I think the first 3 diffs have not been fully hitsounded yet.

Kibbtoshi's Easy
1) 00:03:796 (5,1) - Overlap does not look nice. There are 3 ways to rectify this.
a) Remove the overlap; place 00:04:332 (1) underneath 00:03:260 (4). You get a back and forth pattern.
b) Tuck the slider underneath the slidertail of 00:02:189 (3) and create a blanket between 1 and 00:03:260 (4). You get a triangular movement.
c) Shift 00:01:118 (1,2,3,4,5,1) to the left. You can keep the current pattern while removing the overlap.

2) 00:15:046 (2,3) - distance between them is too close. Please fix.
3) 00:26:441 (1) - Remove the middle point to have a straight slider. This makes it parallel with 00:24:474 (2) - and it looks nicer that way.
4) 00:48:571 (3,4) - Remove the blanket because it does not look nice. That said the blanket is a bit off.
5) 01:21:522 (4,5,6) - Make this pattern symmetrical. After that 01:22:997 (6,7) Don't make a blanket like that. Place 7 in a different area.
6) 01:46:112 (1,2) - Blanket is a bit off too here.


Mentai's Normal
1) 00:52:014 (5,6,7) - The distance between 5 and 6 is way different compared to 6 and 7. Please fix.


Naohuri's Hard
1) 00:16:118 (4,5) -
Idea. As the music starts to slow down, perhaps slow down slider 4 to reflect the slowdown of the music. Maybe add a timing point with 0.9x SV or something.
2) 00:23:244 (5,6,7) - Distances here are quite different. Intentional? It would make sense for the distance from 5 and 6 to be closer compared to 6 and 7.
3) 00:26:933 (2,3,4,5) - This bit though! Must have been a mistake here. If not this seems way too out of place considering that you don't do this anywhere else in the map. Please fix if it is a mistake.
4) 00:41:441 (2,3) - Supposed to be a blanket? If so it is not done right.
5) 01:00:375 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - The parallelogram pattern looks off thanks to the triple stacks.
6) 01:06:031 (2) - Try splitting this into 2 notes. It plays better that way. If you do this, then stack the 2nd note on top of 01:06:400 (3). Applies to 01:39:474 (2).
7) 01:14:637 (3,4,5,6,7) - Pattern looks off.

The last diff feels fine to me.

Overall, there is a lot of polishing that needs to be done, and please fix the hitsounds for the first 3 diffs.
Good luck. White Halwa is delicious.
Free Hong Kong
jk
Mentai

-[ Prxzm ]- wrote:

[notice]
N A O T A I ' S N O R M A L


Comments:
There's a drastic difference in flow technique between the start and rest of the map. I left a large paragraph detailing it inside the mod. There are some very weird NC decisions during the chorus, too many to point out. I pointed out the main ones, but I recommend going back and fixing combos using the comment I left in the Hard difficulty mod.

NCing was done every 2 big white ticks because i think it works better in this level of difficulty imo

Mod:


• 00:58:653 (2) - Make this a 1/2 slider to match the vocals a bit better, then add a circle where the slider end currently is. ur right

RVMathew wrote:

Mentai's Normal
1) 00:52:014 (5,6,7) - The distance between 5 and 6 is way different compared to 6 and 7. Please fix. fixed this for nao and moved my combo a bit
fixed some other symmetry later on because mathew made me self-conscious (and also a blanket)

thank

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Mir
uhhh i didn't actually mean it when i said i was gonna deny everything but i'm gonna deny everything after all because a lot of it is pretty minor and what i have right now is fine, the only things worth changing were from timemon's mod about 00:39:105 (3,4) which nao changed for some stupid reason and from Firist Mudlud about 00:58:777 (3,4) and idk about the triples that was Nao's idea, I just did it to be consistent

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also nao fix the damn aimod things
Topic Starter
Nao Tomori

RVMathew wrote:

Part 2 of the m4m deal. I lost some previous mod stuff due to my computer crashing but I think I should remember them all.
General:
Fix AI mod issues ie. tags, uninherited timing points being in conflict with other diffs
Consider adding combo colours.
I think the first 3 diffs have not been fully hitsounded yet.

Kibbtoshi's Easy
1) 00:03:796 (5,1) - Overlap does not look nice. There are 3 ways to rectify this.
a) Remove the overlap; place 00:04:332 (1) underneath 00:03:260 (4). You get a back and forth pattern.
b) Tuck the slider underneath the slidertail of 00:02:189 (3) and create a blanket between 1 and 00:03:260 (4). You get a triangular movement.
c) Shift 00:01:118 (1,2,3,4,5,1) to the left. You can keep the current pattern while removing the overlap.

2) 00:15:046 (2,3) - distance between them is too close. Please fix. no it isnt
3) 00:26:441 (1) - Remove the middle point to have a straight slider. This makes it parallel with 00:24:474 (2) - and it looks nicer that way.
4) 00:48:571 (3,4) - Remove the blanket because it does not look nice. That said the blanket is a bit off.
5) 01:21:522 (4,5,6) - Make this pattern symmetrical. After that 01:22:997 (6,7) Don't make a blanket like that. Place 7 in a different area.
6) 01:46:112 (1,2) - Blanket is a bit off too here. its ok


Mentai's Normal
1) 00:52:014 (5,6,7) - The distance between 5 and 6 is way different compared to 6 and 7. Please fix.


Naohuri's Hard
1) 00:16:118 (4,5) -
Idea. As the music starts to slow down, perhaps slow down slider 4 to reflect the slowdown of the music. Maybe add a timing point with 0.9x SV or something. meh theres already a bpm change slowing it down, no need here, it'd have to be a big change to have any visual impact but thats a no-no on hards i guess
2) 00:23:244 (5,6,7) - Distances here are quite different. Intentional? It would make sense for the distance from 5 and 6 to be closer compared to 6 and 7. made the jumps make a bit more sense
3) 00:26:933 (2,3,4,5) - This bit though! Must have been a mistake here. If not this seems way too out of place considering that you don't do this anywhere else in the map. Please fix if it is a mistake. intended for vocal emphasis.
4) 00:41:441 (2,3) - Supposed to be a blanket? If so it is not done right.
5) 01:00:375 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - The parallelogram pattern looks off thanks to the triple stacks.
6) 01:06:031 (2) - Try splitting this into 2 notes. It plays better that way. If you do this, then stack the 2nd note on top of 01:06:400 (3). Applies to 01:39:474 (2). this doesn't follow the sound right tho
7) 01:14:637 (3,4,5,6,7) - Pattern looks off.

The last diff feels fine to me.

Overall, there is a lot of polishing that needs to be done, and please fix the hitsounds for the first 3 diffs.
Good luck. White Halwa is delicious.

-[ Prxzm ]- wrote:

Song choice is terrible 0/10 choose new song kds please.



M I R T O S H I ' S E X T R E M E


Comments:
Mirtoshi's Extreme? More like Mirtoshi's Extremely boring. This beatmap is like most of my ex-girlfriends: Aesthetically attractive but lacks any personality or substance. And it's even lacking in aesthetics. We've seen better days in the life of Naotoshi. I still love you though.
Jokes aside, the map itself is aesthetically nice and the flow is smooth for the most part, though there are a few places in the map where the flow shifts for seemingly no reason. I have pointed them out and given recommendations, though ultimately it is your decision on whether you fix them or how you fix them. The map is pretty nice as it is.

Mod:
• This is more of an Insane diff rather than an "Extreme" diff. Even as far as SR goes, in DT it doesn't reach 5.25*. Change to "Mirtoshi's Insane" no this is the diff name scheme from the game this song is from
• Look at AI Mod.
• 00:14:778 (3,4) - Not really a rankability issue moreso a flow/aesthetic issue. Since this map is really easy even in DT you can get away with it, but it causes a slightly uncomfortable snap in the wrist that changes direction extremely suddenly from the rest of the map, then goes back to being the same direction the rest of the map has been. If there was a subtle lead up to the directional change and if it weren't for just one note, it'd be easy to ignore, but this is an unnecessary change. I recommend changing the direction of the slider, though that would get rid of the aesthetic you were going for with the following slider. If you move the circle before it slightly northwest on the grid, you can move the slider to the sliderend of (6) and have a similar aesthetic whilst still changing the direction of the slider.
• 00:49:555 (7,1) - Good blanket. <3
• 00:57:424 (6,7,8,9,1) - No point in NCing the stream's end. NC the start of the stream (6) and delete the NC at the end.
• 01:05:047 (4,5) - This is extremely aesthetically displeasing. This style works on the rest of your sliders because they're small sliders, but on big sliders like this it just looks horrid. Considering you have a blanket of (3) to (5) already (a very nice blanket at that), move the circle northeast (preferably to x376 y192) to get rid of the ugly overlap whilst still keeping in flow with the map. i think it looks fine lol, i moved the circle to line up tho
• 01:05:293 (5) - Very awkward directional flow change, though since the map is easy even in DT you can get away with it. If you do want to change it, though, just ctrl+h, ctrl+j the slider and relocate it.That would be the most pleasing change for flow, though for aesthetics (to keep that marvelous blanket) just ctrl+h, ctrl+shift+r, and relocate. Move the previous circle accordingly, of course.
• 01:22:014 (3,5,6,8) - These are all really cluttered. With HR it's not really much of a problem, but the AR by itself and even somewhat with DT raises a readability problem. I recommend slightly increasing the AR, though you could also just move the circles (not recommended).
• 01:32:096 (4,5,6) - Kind of an awkward flow from the previous duplet. I recommend an entire remap of just these three notes, then moving circles that are directly effected by the change accordingly. Personally, I would start the triplet on x72 y184 and have it move southeast. This creates the same zig-zag jumping pattern with an added subtle change to directional flow to introduce the following section.
• 01:47:096 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I like this very much. It is quite musically accurate and a great artistic choice.
• 01:54:474 (5,6,1) - Ugly. My recommendation would be to move the duplet underneath the sliderend, though that wouldn't thematically match the rest of the section, so I'll leave the decision to you. Just find a way to move the duplet to where it's not a weird slanted devilish triangle of some sort.
• 01:54:965 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,1) - Great way to end the map! :3
N A O H U R I ' S H A R D


Comments:
The flow of the map is really nice, though at the end it seems like you guys kinda just gave up on properly utilizing combos and threw them wherever. I pointed out all of the combo errors that I could catch, but there might be more. I'd go through and check combos again, making sure they're starting after rests and continuing throughout a measure either until the next rest or until the end of a long note, and especially not starting on the downbeat of the measure.

Mod:
• 00:13:439 (7,8,9) - This is aesthetically displeasing. I recommend making the 8 go under rather than over. Either that or just have it a straight line, though that'd be boring.
• 00:17:346 (5) - I personally feel like newer players can't catch onto speed changes that well and would get frustrated at constantly hitting a 50 here, though I could be undervaluing them. It's not unrankable and doesn't seem like too much of a problem, so I leave this entirely up to your discretion. If you do change it, making the start of (4) a circle and the end of it the start of a slider that ends on the (5) would be a good change. they can look at the approach circle, they wont get a 50 if they do that
• 00:23:736 (6,7) - I know this is only a hard diff, but don't undervalue newbies this much. NC (6) and make its distance further away from the end of (5).
• 00:24:474 (1,2,3) - This is all musically incorrect. The best change I can recommend is NCing (1), putting a much quieter hitsound at the sliderend of (2), and cutting the size of (3) by half with another quiet sliderend, furthermore adding a 1/2 slider where the sliderend of (3) currently is. You have (3) ending on a strong beat and (4) on a soft beat. rhythm simplification like this is fine in a lower difficulty, making everything clickable just devlve into massive 1/2 spam that doesn't follw anything clearly
• 00:24:719 (2) - Aesthetically displeasing. Move slightly east.
• 00:32:342 (1) - Increase distance between the previous slider and this.
• 00:38:736 (2) - Either NC this or put a distance change. This is a completely new section and it should be emphasized as such.
• 00:38:736 (2,3) - I recommend starting this section on a 1/2 slider with a circle at the end of it. A strong vocal is sounded in the middle of the slider and it's very noticeable. I understand that new players shouldn't be given too much at once (in this sense duplets or kicksliders), though when you add a duplet slider in this section 00:41:687 (2,3,1) - it should also be given in the previous section to keep consistent, especially when you mapped this duplet over nothing whilst the other section could be mapped over something. the 2nd one follows drums and this one i don't hear any vocal in the middle,
it's one syllable

• 00:58:408 (2) - NC or add a distance change.
• 01:03:818 (1) - Change the direction of this slider (ctrl+j), both for flow and aesthetic purposes.
• 01:13:162 (3) - NC.
• 01:19:064 (5) - NC.
• 01:19:555 (1) - This shouldn't need to be NC'd if (5) was a new combo.
• 01:21:031 (6) - NC.
• 01:21:523 (1) - Don't NC this.
• 01:22:260 (2) - NC.
• 01:27:424 (1,2,3) - This is ugly. Change the direction of the duplet or place it underneath the slider.
• 01:28:900 (4) - NC
• 01:29:392 (1) - Don't NC.
• 01:43:900 (3) - This slider isn't centered properly and it's very noticeable. Move the center joint slightly and it'll be fixed.
N A O T A I ' S N O R M A L


Comments:
There's a drastic difference in flow technique between the start and rest of the map. I left a large paragraph detailing it inside the mod. There are some very weird NC decisions during the chorus, too many to point out. I pointed out the main ones, but I recommend going back and fixing combos using the comment I left in the Hard difficulty mod.

Mod:
• 00:12:368 (4) - New Combo.
• 00:17:503 (1) - (I just picked the break between the two sections, this has nothing to do with the spinner). So, in this case this is mainly just a personal preference, but as I preach often, especially to new mappers (not calling you new mappers just saying I often find myself saying this to new mappers), is that a map's style shouldn't change, even if the song's style changes. What I mean is, if you choose to primarily follow a linear, snappy flow, then the entire map should be a linear, snappy flow; if you choose the latter, a curvy, natural flow, then the entire map should be such. Your map starts out very linear then suddenly changes to a curvy flow. It's not much of a problem because it's a lower difficulty and doesn't require high speed or precision, but flow consistency should still be put into practice across all difficulties. I recommend remapping the beginning of the song to stay consistent with the rest of the map. i completely disagree. the song is totally different with regard to instrument composition, there is 0 reason for the map to be the same considering how different the song is
• 00:36:276 (3,4,5) - This is very beautiful and fine as it is, I love it, but it might be a bit more beautiful if you make (5) a straight slider whilst still keeping it right between (3) and (4). Either way, I love it.
• 00:41:440 (5) - New Combo.
• 00:42:178 (1) - Should not be a New Combo.
• 00:43:407 (2) - New Combo.
• 00:58:653 (2) - Make this a 1/2 slider to match the vocals a bit better, then add a circle where the slider end currently is.
• 01:08:735 (5) - New Combo.
• 01:24:473 (6) - New Combo.
• 01:56:932 (1) - This note is very noticeably off rhythm.
K I B B I T O S H I ' S E A S Y


Comments:
I hate modding easy diffs. They're so slow and boring. T^T Just fix all the ugly overlaps pretty much.

Mod:
• 00:03:260 (4,1) - Ugly overlap.
• 00:04:332 (1,2) - Blanket these.
• 00:08:082 (5,6) - Ugly overlap.
• 00:16:118 (3) - Ctrl+J this slider then relocate it.
• 00:22:505 (1,2) - Ugly overlap.
• 00:31:850 (3) - This slider is horribly out of place in a musical sense. It starts on a very weak note and ends on a weak note. I recommend making it a 1/1 slider to keep in rhythm with the hitsound pattern going on then NCing the (4).
• 00:36:276 (3) - Add a spinner between all of this empty space to keep the map interesting and to give new players training on them. Make sure it ends 1/1 before the next note. recovery time on easies is 4/1 =D
• 00:59:883 (4,1) - Ugly overlap.
• 01:10:702 (2,1) - Ugly overlap.
• 01:21:522 (4,5,6,7) - This is all such a very beautiful combo. I love it!
• 01:36:769 (6,1) - Ugly overlap.
• 01:56:933 (1) - Circle is off rhythm. Technically the circle should be on the blue tick after it.
thanks for modding!
Yahuri
i believe nao shouldve answered whatever was on our diff

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Pachiru
[Easy]
  1. 00:24:499 (2,2) - making this like this is not really beautiful but its just personnal, like you could move it on the right side of the grid, to diversify the position of the notes but wtvrrrrr
  2. 00:36:301 (3) - aaaaa maybe moving this note elsewhere, like this: https://puu.sh/wIsfh/4e9de04129.png
  3. 01:39:252 (3) - the idea of this slider is wow, but the visual look a bit messy, like the beginner player will be "OMG wat I do" why not making something more "clear" with curves??
  4. 01:45:153 (3,4) - maybe lmoving this note xddd because it overlaps and stuiff
  5. 01:44:170 (2,3,4,1,2) - in fact this part looks a bit broken, maybe thats a bug?

[norma]
  1. 00:30:399 (1,2,3) - the angle of the move here is a bit weird to play
  2. 01:29:416 (3,4,5) - same here, i feel like the angle here is too sharp, since the music is oefzjefjzeoifcooooool and smooth, try to avoid sharp moves like u did here

[hard]
  1. 00:24:007 (7,1,2) - here i would put more spacing between 7 & 1 instead of 1 &2 because the strong beat is on the 1
  2. 00:38:269 (1) - wwhy not making more spacing here, to show that's a strong beat + new part of the song

[insane]
  1. 00:23:268 (5) - that sounds weird here with the ending on a 1/4 + the hitsounds tbh
  2. 01:08:268 (3,4) - maybe i would add more spacing on those two notes
  3. 01:23:268 (8,9,1) - in my opinion, a triplet like this might be quite hard follow + compared to the hard diff, it became really hard by using triplet lke this
  4. 01:24:498 (4,5,6,7) - why not making a crescendo spacing here ? that would sounds better no
  5. 01:50:809 (7,8,1) - try to keep the spacing same during all the part, because you did it different there : 01:56:711 (8,9,1) - and bfore


woww gg great song great mapper woooooo /dance
Topic Starter
Nao Tomori
insane: triple is fine cuz we've been setting up giant spaced triples everywhere in the map
easy: i think the straight lines work better to show the division of the song

everything else fixed
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