Lokovodo wrote:

Black Another

02:01:309 - 02:02:406 can probably be better represented with chordstreaming than with LNs
I suggest a simple pattern like this
this also helps emphasize the reverse crash along with the drumroll so it works well Cool

eyes wrote:

Rebanada's Black Another

00:58:626 - Maybe manually CTRL+H this pattern because you make unneeded overloading for left hand 00:59:627 (59627|1,59627|0,59738|1,59738|0,59849|1,59849|0,60071|2,60071|0,60182|0,60182|2) Naw imma keep it cuz it structures well as it follows the pitch of the piano even if it's a bit difficult for the left hand

01:07:293 - left hand is already loaded at this point and you make it even more stressful for left hand by starting the stair by left side. You can start the stair pattern by right side instead. I agree with this one
01:20:333 (80333|1,80333|3,80497|1,80497|3) - different pitch, you can rearrange second double for PR Rearranged
01:59:459 - +1 LN Added
02:16:620 (136620|1,136785|1,136950|1,137169|1,137334|1,137444|1,137609|1,137829|1,137994|1,138104|1,138268|1,138433|1,138598|1,138763|1) - bad anchor, rearrange for balance I tried and moved some notes to other columns but i feel like it will end up worse and more difficult to play

eyes wrote:

1-9 / S+1-8


Bloodthirsty Vampirekads' White Another

00:05:547 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9715663 would be more interesting that's a good idea, but that breaks the whole pattern afterwards, sorry
02:02:863 - 02:03:046 - 02:03:229 - I think you can add notes here nah i'm not sure about that
00:34:359 - this sound is much stronger than 02:22:425 , you might want make it triple instead interesting point, switched double and triple

Arzenvald wrote:

mod owo

4 months hawawawa

[concerto]
00:13:547 (13547|3,13578|5) - i'd suggest to move to 6 & 7, then

00:13:797 (13797|6) - to 5

I put a note at 7 for background sound, it continues 00:13:547 (13547|3,13578|5) - , 00:13:547 (13547|3,13578|5) - to share feeling when someone play piano for this.

00:19:797 (19797|0,19797|6,19797|1,19854|5,19912|4,19970|2,20027|1) - ctrl+h, for pr direction Lower structure like 00:19:297 (19297|4,19297|5,19297|6,19547|3,19547|4,19797|1,19797|0) - can express pr more tho

00:32:900 (32900|5,32900|4,33062|3,33062|4) - ctrl+J, better pr and double broken stair just looks right I agree. Thx!

01:18:932 (78932|2) - removing this would give better emphasis at 01:18:849 (78849|0,78849|2) - But 01:18:849 - doesn't has any main melody sound, compared with 01:19:096 -. So double is better for this and 01:18:932 - is a part of piano progress so I wanna keep this.


01:20:333 (80333|1) - not really strong as i play / hear this, removing is better It's a part of main melody, 01:20:250 - 01:20:910 - . I used double for this melody structure, so it's fine tho

01:21:239 (81239|2,81239|4,81322|5,81322|1,81404|4,81404|2,81486|6,81486|0,81569|5,81569|1,81651|4,81651|2,81734|6,81734|0) - i suppose any different pattern than symmetrical could also works here, something not identical with other symmetrical pattern. rearranged little bit

couldn't really tell about the climax part since i died in that part lmao x3

00:34:035 - add 1/16 grace, will play just right Intended, cuz I wanna add SV here then 1/16 grace can be shown ugly

00:38:548 (38548|1) - optionally, comparing with black another, you only use double in this part while black another has triple. consider to add some notes hmm it's fine tho, reba has another thought about this part with me yeah


02:22:060 (142060|0) - add some grace note Intended, of course, SV

[Another]
00:00:510 (510|4) - are you sure making this LN harder than 3 other higher diff, even concerto? O.o Hmm I understand what you say,
it's harder than upper diffs tbh. But concerto is bms-based chart so has less ln, this diff is mixed chart, normal lulu patterning. So the gap is fine tho cuz they has different concept actually. other two diffs are gd, they has their thought so I can't tell about them. I will consider it for nerf or whatever

01:18:932 (78932|0,78932|4) - same like the other diff, remove, instead,
01:18:849 (78849|5) - add for better emphasis

double for background sound + melody like 01:18:932 (78932|0,78932|4) - , I don't think it needs to be changed.

01:37:099 (97099|6) - just maybe, move this to 5 for that contrast, different pr from 01:37:019 (97019|6) - It looks awkward to play, just placing same col with previous is more easy and fun when player hit them.

01:18:932 (78932|4,78932|0,141071|6,141071|5,141180|5,141180|6,141290|5,141290|6,141400|6) - i personally thinks this should be in left hand (ctrl + H) and :?
02:21:071 (141071|2) - move to 4. For pattern structure, it should be placed here. 02:20:741 (140741|2,140851|2,140961|2,141071|2) - continuing four same col, not same col with next jack section col like 02:21:400 (141400|6,141400|3,141400|4) -

[Beginner]

02:11:026 (131026|2,131373|5,131546|3) - the LN, visually looks hard than how Beginner level should do. i suggest just use a plain 1/2 LN

02:08:220 (128220|4) - ^

the ending part too, but i think the slower bpm helps the reading compared with the 2 point earlier. Fixed!

alright, good luck! the set is pretty much clean, i'm looking forward this map nominated & go for rank :3/ :3/

Garalulu wrote:

Thx for modding!

I think this modding is m4m with petals, do you wanna mod for it now? if it's not, give me other map :3

Arzenvald wrote:

mod owo

4 months hawawawa

[White Another]
i personally thinks, reversed pr doesn't feels right through this diff, it gives weird feeling when the piano plays from low keys to higher keys, while the note itself reversed from right to left.
interesting point, i haven't really thought about it before, and your argument makes a lot of sense
no reply = applied

00:19:797 (19797|1,19797|0,19854|6,19912|5,19970|4,20027|2) - ctrl+h for better pr direction

00:34:035 (34035|2,34055|1,34075|0) - ctrl+j, same reason above

00:34:359 (34359|6) - move to 1, same reason above seems unnecessary, keeping for now

01:03:626 (63626|4,63682|1,63738|2,63793|3,63849|4,63904|5) - ctrl + h, same reason above

01:07:668 (67668|1,67710|6,67751|5,67793|4,67835|3,67876|2,67918|1) - change the stairs direction, left to right, would follow the pitch better

01:15:926 (75926|4,76337|3,76748|2) - ghost, remove. nope you can hear the timpani, though it's a bit small. if it interrupts the ranking process, i'll remove

01:18:932 (78932|1,78932|6,78932|4) - couldn't hear any downbeat here. remove, instead,

01:18:849 (78849|3) - add some notes for better emphasis

hmm, not really sure about that. i kept the 3-1-2-1 notes consistently, so that's how i'm gonna keep it for now

01:26:184 (86184|3,86271|4,86357|3,86443|2) - the bracket in this part is harder than Black Another, consider to reduce the pattern hardness. does it really matter though? overally black another's way harder than mine, and only certain parts being harder than the higher diff can't be the reason to nerf them :thinking:
that's just my opinion /shrug

01:37:139 (97139|3,97179|4,97219|5,97259|6,97298|0,97338|1,97378|2,97419|3,97459|4,97500|5,97540|6,97581|0,97621|1,97662|2,97702|3) - better change the direction.


compared with Black Another :

00:58:626 - better change those triples into double jack for better gap with Black Another i'll consider


alright, good luck! the set is pretty much clean, i'm looking forward this map nominated & go for rank :3/

Arzenvald wrote:

summon powa & chicken nao @A@!

Fresh Chicken wrote:

so ya I'm about to bubble this

Beginner
01:59:253 (119253|4) - 이 구간은 01:55:555 - 01:56:171 - 와 달리 01:59:459 - 가 소리가 없으니 이 노트를 한칸 오른쪽으로 움직이는게 전체적인 구조상 어울릴듯
Normal
01:59:253 (119253|2) - Beginner와 동일
Hyper
01:34:227 - 01:34:865 - 너무 왼쪽에 치우쳤으니 골고루 재배치하는 게 좋을듯
01:38:472 - 고스트 노트로 보이니 제거하는 게 좋을듯
01:43:580 - 대신 이런 부분에는 피니시 음이 있으니 노트 하나 더 넣는걸로
02:17:115 - 02:17:444 - 스냅 에러. 1/6이어야함
White another
02:14:477 - 02:14:807 - 여기가 이후 1/6보다 어렵다. 노래를 들어봐도 1/8이 아니라 1/4인 듯 하니 재배치하는게 좋을듯
Black another
02:22:060 - 앞 쪽 파트인 00:34:035 - 에서 보여줬던 것처럼 1/16을 이용해 표현하면 이쁠듯. 막난은 변속 때문에 쓰지 않았지만 요기는 괜찮
Concerto Cruento
00:32:089 - 00:32:738 - 단순한 계단 배치보단 멜로디에 어울리게 재배치해보는 게 낫다
00:43:971 - 00:49:395 - 이 파트 꼭 롱놋의 길이가 저렇게 길어야 하나 노래 구조상 배경음을 생각해 길게 빼놨으니 유지하고 싶당

Fresh Chicken wrote:

카앜 퉤

Kawawa wrote:

2

shionelove wrote:

from 01:37:743 you should follow 1/4 sounds.As DP player it feels bad you don'k make this part so much easier because this is remix of DIRGE.
and highest diff,01:00:071 (60071|5,60182|5,60293|5) - 01:07:960 (67960|1,67960|0,67960|2,68071|2,68071|1,68071|0,68182|2,68182|1,68182|0) - 02:19:422 (139422|1,139422|2,139532|1,139532|2,139642|1,139642|2) - they ignore the song,compering with Black Another which is correct rhythm.

Rivals_7 wrote:

02:39:004 - arent you missing a piano sound here?
just saying because it looks a tiny bit inconsistent with what you did before - 02:34:518 (154518|2) -

your top diff and Another btw

Kamikaze wrote:

Looking at the top difficulty the SVs are very forced, most of them are just made to fill the gaps which is not okay, especially SVs in places like 00:34:035 - where sure, you have a pause followed by a loud chord - but is making a scroll jump here a good way of expressing it? I really don't think so.
the slowdowns and smooth transitions out of them are good, but the SV jumps here in most spots feel really unnecessary and just placed there so players will trip up on them and not because of the song's sounds. I wanted to emphasize the feeling, like we are really playing the piano. The insane pianist, piano is playing him or her actually, express the feeling with visual performance. I wanted to catch that movement so added the jump. It's not tough SV (just 0.5x 1.5x) so no problem tho

also the chord density doesn't seem consistent and justified, for example 01:02:071 (62071|2,62071|3,62182|3,62182|2) - those chords feel the same as 01:01:738 (61738|3,61738|4,61738|1,61849|3,61849|4,61849|1) - just on a diffrent pitch, but they differ, also the ending is suddenly 4-chords then random amount of notes + a 1/4 stream that supports something that's not exactly hearable? actually it's a different pitch, and you can hear another piano sound like 01:01:960 - 01:02:293 - . it is only placed at this part like 01:00:738 - or 01:00:849 - , not 01:02:071 - or 01:02:182 - . And more,
I added the hitsound for this, it means it's more highlight part.

There's also an issue of you sometimes completely ignoring pitch which creates pretty funny results, the best example of this would be 01:07:960 - where you straight up ignore all pitch relevancy for the sake of keeping hand ballance, the ending also tries to do that but the 1/4 mixed in between ruins it not just ignoring pitch, I arranged it with PR and hand balance both, so it's the result. I only focused on the difference, high or low pitch.
After pitch is changed, I put the notes left and right, right and left. it can express the changing of pitch enough tho

I've also heard people complain about the ending being straight up not good to play, but I will wait for someone to suggest patterns since those people would be probably better suited for it than I am, however if you would just delete those notes it would flow way nicer due to not having the implied minijacks with stair transitions:


(the last one is just a flow breaker at the end and I personally think that the ending is also overchorded)
I'll poke people if they have any suggestions for the ending, for now those are my points.
tl;dr SVs in my opinion are unnecessary and made only so there's SVs which is bad and people have problems with patterning of chordjacks, especially density and the ending For consistency, 02:14:148 - 02:22:060 - this part uses 5 notes for piano + finish drum, the piano chord with drum sound.
the chordjack is intended, you can check it like 01:00:182 (60182|5,60293|5) - , I already use this patterning structure when I want to express this flow.
Yeah it's pretty hard structure. But I don't think it ruins the entire structure, it has consistency and the reason it should be placed as itself. And I think it's the best structure with that density and consistency, so want to keep it

there are also the bursts at 2,1k combo where EVERYONE that submitted a score has missed, I think something has to be wrong if you have a 3 miss score on that hard of a chart and it has two or three misses in the same part as everyone else, kind of a in2k6 problem although admittedly way better lol I already have many test about it, people said it's FCable and really they did it. The scores at qualified section are just their first playing or not their full condition cause it's not ranked map yet and only 4 days ago so it can't be used for statistics tho :3

sankansuki wrote:

The snapping ones i'm not too confident on, but the timing/offset ones has to be changed.
This is a mod for Concerto Cruento diff (timing/offset is probably for the mapset)

00:19:797 - idk how accurate it must snap according the the sounds but this snapping is what i hear. Though you can only have this snapping if you change the bpm to 130 just to put the notes and then switch back to 65. I can understand if you say that you can only hear it in 25%, but its just something i can see. I followed the original bpm, it's 65. For the playability and simplicity, 1/16 snap is better option to express this part.

00:23:657 - the red timing point here is a little too early, i feel like it's offset should be around 23669. If you ask me, 12ms is quite a bit.
and at 00:34:047 - (using 23669) sounds like this (using 1/16 & 1/12) For SV, I just place them at same timing point. About timing point, for the delay of some piano sound I use current point.

01:28:123 (88123|6,88123|5) - sounds more like it should be at 01:28:110 - 1/6 snapping

this, explained below (01:29:120 - 1/12)
and this (01:35:503 - 1/12) some are still 1/8 though

same thing with above, for the delay of piano sound and simplicity. I simply placed it at 1/8

For this section 01:32:950 - i feel like the two notes representing the piano should be on 1/12 snapping instead of 1/8, because the piano sounds earlier.
And if you were going to map the piano like that, why not put another two notes 01:33:455 - since there's a piano sound there. But before you say that it's to match the same section at 01:34:227 - there is a slight difference where the piano sound at 01:34:705 - is different from the pattern of the sound, if that makes sense. It's very quiet sound when playing 100%, so I didn't add it.

these red timing points (and green) should be changed. mostly around 9ms or more differences
01:37:743 - 97743>97756 I put them bpm point when the bar ends. I follow the 185bpm stair and just add new bar for it, seems little bit delayed but it's not big gap tho
01:46:825 - 106825>106837 no problem tho?
02:01:309 - 121309>121316 when I hear 02:04:967 - , it seems matched well.
02:07:162 - 127162>127169 same with above, 02:08:573 - seems well.
02:09:986 - 129986>129992 02:13:801 - , well matched.
02:14:148 - 134148>134157 02:14:807 - , no problem.

some part looks little bit delayed but when I checked the whole part, it matches well.

the only sv i have issues with is 01:15:721 - the svs here are just too exaggerated just 0.5x 1.5x jump, same with 00:34:035 - this jump.

_underjoy wrote:

I suggest this - changing 5-chords to 4-chords should make it more bearable to play.

On the other hand - I hear this 1/4 stream as ghost notes.

qqqant wrote:

02:39:004 - wat missing note ? ? all the GDs have it, missing in another and top diff, why?