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Tia - Deal with the devil [Osu|Taiko]

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Arphimigon
Lab Aesthetics Mod!
Results given in [x, y] formats

[Compulsive Gambling]
Object at 00:18:284 - should be placed at: [283, 276] currently at: [288, 279] to blanket slider body at time 00:18:601 -
Object at 00:24:199 - should be placed at: [213, 250] currently at: [212, 256] to blanket slider body at time 00:24:411 -
Object at 00:24:305 - should be placed at: [213, 250] currently at: [212, 256] to blanket slider body at time 00:24:411 -
Object at 00:42:051 - should be placed at: [245, 271] currently at: [238, 273] to blanket slider body at time 00:42:474 -
Object at 00:43:425 - should be placed at: [273, 192] currently at: [272, 186] to blanket slider body at time 00:43:213 -
Object at 01:13:213 - should be placed at: [191, 11] currently at: [200, 14] to blanket slider body at time 01:12:791 -

[Easy]
Nothing Detected!
[Hard]
Object at 00:54:411 - should be placed at: [183, 291] currently at: [180, 293] to blanket slider body at time 00:53:777 -
Object at 01:17:439 - should be placed at: [137, 92] currently at: [138, 93] to move in line with slider at time 01:16:805 -
Object at 01:27:791 - should be placed at: [335, 199] currently at: [334, 200] to move in line with slider at time 01:27:157 -

[Insane]
Object at 01:04:129 - should be placed at: [230, 120] currently at: [225, 116] to blanket slider body at time 01:03:918 -

[Light Insane]
Object at 00:41:206 - should be placed at: [336, 61] currently at: [337, 62] to move in line with slider at time 00:41:312 -
Object at 00:41:735 - should be placed at: [217, 149] currently at: [216, 150] to move in line with slider at time 00:41:946 -

[Tiff's Normal]
Object at 01:19:868 - should be placed at: [247, 81] currently at: [248, 80] to move in line with slider at time 01:19:340 -

I hope I didn't malfunction!
Topic Starter
-Mikan

Arphimigon wrote:

Lab Aesthetics Mod!
Results given in [x, y] formats

[Compulsive Gambling]
Object at 00:18:284 - should be placed at: [283, 276] currently at: [288, 279] to blanket slider body at time 00:18:601 - fixed
Object at 00:24:199 - should be placed at: [213, 250] currently at: [212, 256] to blanket slider body at time 00:24:411 - fixed
Object at 00:24:305 - should be placed at: [213, 250] currently at: [212, 256] to blanket slider body at time 00:24:411 - fixed
Object at 00:42:051 - should be placed at: [245, 271] currently at: [238, 273] to blanket slider body at time 00:42:474 - fixed
Object at 00:43:425 - should be placed at: [273, 192] currently at: [272, 186] to blanket slider body at time 00:43:213 - fixed
Object at 01:13:213 - should be placed at: [191, 11] currently at: [200, 14] to blanket slider body at time 01:12:791 - -

[Easy]
Nothing Detected!
[Hard]
Object at 00:54:411 - should be placed at: [183, 291] currently at: [180, 293] to blanket slider body at time 00:53:777 - fixed
Object at 01:17:439 - should be placed at: [137, 92] currently at: [138, 93] to move in line with slider at time 01:16:805 - fixed
Object at 01:27:791 - should be placed at: [335, 199] currently at: [334, 200] to move in line with slider at time 01:27:157 - fixed

[Insane]
Object at 01:04:129 - should be placed at: [230, 120] currently at: [225, 116] to blanket slider body at time 01:03:918 - fixed

[Light Insane]
Object at 00:41:206 - should be placed at: [336, 61] currently at: [337, 62] to move in line with slider at time 00:41:312 - fixed
Object at 00:41:735 - should be placed at: [217, 149] currently at: [216, 150] to move in line with slider at time 00:41:946 - fixed

[Tiff's Normal]
Object at 01:19:868 - should be placed at: [247, 81] currently at: [248, 80] to move in line with slider at time 01:19:340 - fixed

I hope I didn't malfunction!
Thank you,that's good :D
Botan
Hello from my queue!
started: 10:16pm

Easy
For the most part, the SV of an Easy should be the same throughout a song and if there are any changes then the changes need to be very minute and justified with tempo changes in the music. As far as I can tell, there are no tempo changes at all but there are plenty of SV changes which causes the Distance Snap to be all over the place. Inconsistent distance snapping is not acceptable for an Easy. I also believe the base SV is too high for this difficulty as well. It is for these reasons why I will not be modding this difficulty as fixing these issues will be changing the map quite drastically.

Tiff's Normal
For the same reasons as mentioned above, I will not be modding this difficulty either. SV should not be manipulated in a Normal and if you do need to adjust it make sure the change is not extreme. Distance Snap also needs to be kept locked for the whole map as well, 00:13:636 (3,1) is not acceptable.
00:29:270 (1,2) - No consistency here, this was slowed down in the Easy but the sliders play fast here in the Normal.
00:21:453 (2) - This needs to be closer to the first slider.

At this point, I don't believe these two difficulties are ready for modding as they do not meet the standards of Easy and Normal mapping.
finished: 10:40pm
Topic Starter
-Mikan

Botan wrote:

Hello from my queue!
started: 10:16pm

Easy
For the most part, the SV of an Easy should be the same throughout a song and if there are any changes then the changes need to be very minute and justified with tempo changes in the music. As far as I can tell, there are no tempo changes at all but there are plenty of SV changes which causes the Distance Snap to be all over the place. Inconsistent distance snapping is not acceptable for an Easy. I also believe the base SV is too high for this difficulty as well. It is for these reasons why I will not be modding this difficulty as fixing these issues will be changing the map quite drastically. Fixed,maybe now is it ready for mod?


At this point, I don't believe these two difficulties are ready for modding as they do not meet the standards of Easy and Normal mapping.
finished: 10:40pm
MrKosiej
Sup, i finished teh gd

GD
osu file format v14

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[MTF] Wolfette
The beat on this song was hard to follow

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[Editor]
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[Metadata]
Title:Deal with the devil
TitleUnicode:Deal with the devil
Artist:Tia
ArtistUnicode:Tia
Creator:MikanTBG
Version:Asriel's Easy
Source:賭ケグルイ
Tags:Kakegurui Opening Compulsive Gambler OP tv size Yumeko Jabami 蛇喰 夢子
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Topic Starter
-Mikan
!

AsrielDr33murr wrote:

The beat on this song was hard to follow

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Tags:Kakegurui Opening Compulsive Gambler OP tv size Yumeko Jabami 蛇喰 夢子
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Sorry,but i don't like it. :|
Maxylan

MikanTBG wrote:

Holy shit can at least one of you use a BOX for this

AsrielDr33murr wrote:

The beat on this song was hard to follow

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Title:Deal with the devil
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Version:Asriel's Easy
Source:賭ケグルイ
Tags:Kakegurui Opening Compulsive Gambler OP tv size Yumeko Jabami 蛇喰 夢子
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:3
CircleSize:2
OverallDifficulty:2
ApproachRate:4
SliderMultiplier:1.39999990463257
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Kakegurui.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

[TimingPoints]
2228,422.535211267606,4,1,1,70,1,0
2228,-100,4,1,1,90,0,0
7016,-100,4,1,1,100,0,0
15749,-100,4,1,1,85,0,0
17439,-100,4,1,1,80,0,0
34340,-100,4,1,1,80,0,0
36030,-100,4,1,1,80,0,0
44904,-100,4,1,1,80,0,0
58002,-133.333333333333,4,1,1,80,0,0
61594,-133.333333333333,4,1,1,90,0,1
74904,-133.333333333333,4,1,1,90,0,1
88425,-100,4,1,1,80,0,0


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Combo2 : 255,0,0
Combo3 : 255,128,128
Combo4 : 255,255,0
Combo5 : 255,128,0
Combo6 : 110,110,110

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Sorry,but i don't like it. :|
M4M From my queue ~
Sorry for the delay, due to backlogs and other mods.
[General]
- Why does this follow a 1/6 snap divisor when the rhythm itself is 4/4 and it plays, sounds and feels perfectly fine on a 4/4?
Example Insane
00:02:228 (1,2) -
- Object placement seems to be off in all the diffs I playtested. Spacing is done at random with no particular effort to emphasize sound.

- NEVER MIX AND MATCH DIFFERENT BEATSNAPS
Doesn't matter what kind of a time gap or how well it fits with the song. Under no circumstances should you use different beat snap divisors to set unrealistic expectations for the player, this only leads to one thing, loss of accuracy.
- 00:17:756 (2,1) - There are over mapped sounds in all difficulties, with circles or sliders on sounds that don't exist or are so insignificant they aren't even noticeable. The most noticeable culprit for this is "MrKosiejs's High Speed Another".

- Coincidentally, the difficulty that felt the most fluent to play was "MrKosiejs's High Speed Another", mainly because it was well timed, and aesthetically pleasing with good stacking and object placements. What it did lack, however, just like all the other diffs, was proper flow in for example parts like these 00:38:671 (6,1,2,3,4) - (which also, btw, are completely unreadable and feel like aids to play.) Still, it is a very nice GD! And it's a GD I'd love to see ranked!
But the worst diffs when it comes to flow, spacing and object placements are the ones made by MikanTBG which includes parts like these ("Compulsive Gambling"): 00:11:629 (1,3) And I don't even know where to start... I could at least pass MrKosiejs' GD but these other diffs were downright unplayable due to the randomness in object placements and the weird timing.

To the people making the GD's, at least yours are rankable. But unfortunately MikanTBG your best bet is to remake all your own difficulties because they contain so many errors that fixing them through mods will be downright impossible. This is a song that I'd love to see ranked but it's also a song that requires copious amounts of mapping skill to pull off due to it having 1/6 Beatsnap and very high tempo with only 140 BPM and so many sounds that need emphasising. Learn something from your GD's and build of them ;)

Sorry if I'm being harsh in this mod, but I don't believe in sugarcoating mods. And my strongest recommendation to you Mikan would be to practice mapping more until you feel comfortable revisiting this song, because this song is so insanely hard to map.
[]
MrKosiej

Maxylan wrote:

- 00:17:756 (2,1) - There are over mapped sounds in all difficulties, with circles or sliders on sounds that don't exist or are so insignificant they aren't even noticeable. The most noticeable culprit for this is "MrKosiejs's High Speed Another".
Yeah, it is overmapped. But the one thing you didn't consider, is that overmapping can be fun, nice, playable and rankable af. See pishi's maps for refference xd. I do it in a consistent way, so no problem here.

Maxylan wrote:

What it did lack, however, just like all the other diffs, was proper flow in for example parts like these 00:38:671 (6,1,2,3,4)
I'd consider your point, if it wasn't completely bullshit. It might be hard to play, for a 100k+ rank like u. But this map was designed for players capable of playing various 5*+ maps, in addition my maps contain a lot of tricky stuff, so when it's good and consistent, there's no error, there's style.

Map has been tested by different players with various skill range, and nobody was whining about flow.

That's my response to mod about my small part of this mapset. Since i disaggreed with all of the accusations, no update to my diff. (In case of receiving more mods complaining about the same, i'll reconsider changing stuff).
Topic Starter
-Mikan

Maxylan wrote:

M4M From my queue ~
Sorry for the delay, due to backlogs and other mods.
[General]
- Why does this follow a 1/6 snap divisor when the rhythm itself is 4/4 and it plays, sounds and feels perfectly fine on a 4/4?
Example Insane
00:02:228 (1,2) -
I don't think so,bcs 1/6 snap divisor is emphasizing saxophone here imao
- Object placement seems to be off in all the diffs I playtested. Spacing is done at random with no particular effort to emphasize sound. Working on it

- NEVER MIX AND MATCH DIFFERENT BEATSNAPS
Doesn't matter what kind of a time gap or how well it fits with the song. Under no circumstances should you use different beat snap divisors to set unrealistic expectations for the player, this only leads to one thing, loss of accuracy.
Fixed
- 00:17:756 (2,1) - There are over mapped sounds in all difficulties, with circles or sliders on sounds that don't exist or are so insignificant they aren't even noticeable. The most noticeable culprit for this is "MrKosiejs's High Speed Another". Yes,it's overmap but also It's alternate map and i think for alternate palyers it's don't difficult to read and press

To the people making the GD's, at least yours are rankable. But unfortunately MikanTBG your best bet is to remake all your own difficulties because they contain so many errors that fixing them through mods will be downright impossible. This is a song that I'd love to see ranked but it's also a song that requires copious amounts of mapping skill to pull off due to it having 1/6 Beatsnap and very high tempo with only 140 BPM and so many sounds that need emphasising. Learn something from your GD's and build of them ;) I know that my Insane diff is disgusting and i will delete it when anyone will make another better insane GD,On last diff i'm doing my best to make it playable,rhythmic and aethetick and updating it every day,but i don't want to copy any things from people's GDs.

Sorry if I'm being harsh in this mod, but I don't believe in sugarcoating mods. And my strongest recommendation to you Mikan would be to practice mapping more until you feel comfortable revisiting this song, because this song is so insanely hard to map.
[]
You gave me a lot of food for thought.Thanks for mod! :oops:
Kanzaki H Aria
Hi from my queue. (*・ω・)ノ
General

Background: kakegurui.jpg is 1920x1080, which differs from the recommended size of 1024x768.
Inconsistency combo colours
[Compulsive Gambling]
Combo1 : 64,255,255
Combo2 : 255,0,0
Combo3 : 255,128,128
Combo4 : 255,255,0
Combo5 : 255,128,0
Combo6 : 153,153,153
[Easy]
Combo1 : 40,255,255
Combo2 : 255,0,0
Combo3 : 255,128,128
Combo4 : 255,255,0
Combo5 : 255,128,0
Combo6 : 110,110,110
[Hard]
Combo1 : 60,255,255
Combo2 : 255,0,0
Combo3 : 255,128,128
Combo4 : 255,255,0
Combo5 : 255,128,0
Combo6 : 160,160,160
[Insane]
Combo1 : 70,255,255
Combo2 : 255,0,0
Combo3 : 255,128,128
Combo4 : 255,255,0
Combo5 : 255,128,0
Combo6 : 196,196,196
[Light Insane]
Combo1 : 60,255,255
Combo2 : 255,0,0
Combo3 : 255,128,128
Combo4 : 255,255,0
Combo5 : 255,128,0
Combo6 : 160,160,160
[MrKosiej's High Speed Another]
Combo1 : 64,255,255
Combo2 : 255,0,0
Combo3 : 255,128,128
Combo4 : 255,255,0
Combo5 : 255,128,0
Combo6 : 153,153,153
[Tiff's Normal]
Combo1 : 40,255,255
Combo2 : 255,0,0
Combo3 : 255,128,128
Combo4 : 255,255,0
Combo5 : 255,128,0
Combo6 : 110,110,110
In consistency Kiai time: Only [Easy] starts on 01:01:594
Tags: adding mrkosiej, tiffany_yu_tyu
Tiff's Normal

Unused green lines
00:06:805
00:07:016
00:23:495
00:23:777
00:36:030
00:36:875
00:58:002
01:00:960
01:34:235
00:05:608 (3) - NC
00:10:889 (2,3) - I don't think it would be great idea on using two reverse slider.
00:14:270 (2,3) - ^ Same.
00:38:988 (4) - Move to X: 352, Y: 264
00:39:411 (5) - Move to X: 200, Y: 328 and place it 00:55:889 (3) - Move to X: 368, Y: 192
The green line on 01:01:382 - slider velocity change to 0.75x and delete the other on 01:01:594
01:28:425 (1,2,3) - uses same distance snap. the first slider and the second are too far, but the second and the third are too close.
Hard

Unused green lines
00:02:228
00:10:678
00:29:270
00:58:002
00:58:425
00:58:847
00:59:270
00:59:481
00:18:284 (3,1,2,3) - It uncomfortable, maybe try another placement?
00:30:115 (1) - 00:36:981 (1,2) - 01:00:608 (2) - move to X: 340, Y: 140.
Good luck with it and have a good day. ( ・∀・)ノシ
Btw, love the gif on the discription, SEXY! (*´ω`*)b
Topic Starter
-Mikan

KanpanRin wrote:

Hi from my queue. (*・ω・)ノ Hi/
General

Background: kakegurui.jpg is 1920x1080, which differs from the recommended size of 1024x768. fixed
Inconsistency combo colours
[Compulsive Gambling]
Combo1 : 64,255,255
Combo2 : 255,0,0
Combo3 : 255,128,128
Combo4 : 255,255,0
Combo5 : 255,128,0
Combo6 : 153,153,153
[Easy]
Combo1 : 40,255,255
Combo2 : 255,0,0
Combo3 : 255,128,128
Combo4 : 255,255,0
Combo5 : 255,128,0
Combo6 : 110,110,110
[Hard]
Combo1 : 60,255,255
Combo2 : 255,0,0
Combo3 : 255,128,128
Combo4 : 255,255,0
Combo5 : 255,128,0
Combo6 : 160,160,160
[Insane]
Combo1 : 70,255,255
Combo2 : 255,0,0
Combo3 : 255,128,128
Combo4 : 255,255,0
Combo5 : 255,128,0
Combo6 : 196,196,196
[Light Insane]
Combo1 : 60,255,255
Combo2 : 255,0,0
Combo3 : 255,128,128
Combo4 : 255,255,0
Combo5 : 255,128,0
Combo6 : 160,160,160
[MrKosiej's High Speed Another]
Combo1 : 64,255,255
Combo2 : 255,0,0
Combo3 : 255,128,128
Combo4 : 255,255,0
Combo5 : 255,128,0
Combo6 : 153,153,153
[Tiff's Normal]
Combo1 : 40,255,255
Combo2 : 255,0,0
Combo3 : 255,128,128
Combo4 : 255,255,0
Combo5 : 255,128,0
Combo6 : 110,110,110
fixed
In consistency Kiai time: Only [Easy] starts on 01:01:594 fixed
Tags: adding mrkosiej, tiffany_yu_tyu added

Hard

Unused green lines
00:02:228
00:10:678
00:29:270
00:58:002
00:58:425
00:58:847
00:59:270
00:59:481
Deleted
00:18:284 (3,1,2,3) - It uncomfortable, maybe try another placement? I think it's ok but little replace
00:30:115 (1) - Fixed
00:36:981 (1,2) - No,now it's emphasizing saxophone and I don't heare any beat at 00:37:192
01:00:608 (2) - move to X: 340, Y: 140. replaced
Good luck with it and have a good day. ( ・∀・)ノシ
Btw, love the gif on the discription, SEXY! (*´ω`*)b
Thanks for mod ^^
Tiff

KanpanRin wrote:

Hi from my queue. (*・ω・)ノ
Tiff's Normal

Unused green lines
00:06:805
00:07:016
00:23:495
00:23:777
00:36:030
00:36:875
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01:34:235
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00:05:608 (3) - NC Done
00:10:889 (2,3) - I don't think it would be great idea on using two reverse slider. Yup, I think so too, Done
00:14:270 (2,3) - ^ Same. ^
00:38:988 (4) - Move to X: 352, Y: 264 Because I lock DS for the whole map, it changes the whole map, so i didn't correct this one
00:39:411 (5) - Move to X: 200, Y: 328 and place it ^same
like it.
Tanks! (Thanks)
00:55:889 (3) - Move to X: 368, Y: 192 Same^
The green line on 01:01:382 - slider velocity change to 0.75x and delete the other on 01:01:594
01:28:425 (1,2,3) - uses same distance snap. the first slider and the second are too far, but the second and the third are too close. yup and i Logged Ds for the whole map
Good luck with it and have a good day. ( ・∀・)ノシ
Btw, love the gif on the discription, SEXY! (*´ω`*)b
Thanks for ur mod!!!!
Tiff

Botan wrote:

Hello from my queue!
started: 10:16pm

Tiff's Normal
For the same reasons as mentioned above, I will not be modding this difficulty either. SV should not be manipulated in a Normal and if you do need to adjust it make sure the change is not extreme. Distance Snap also needs to be kept locked for the whole map as well, 00:13:636 (3,1) is not acceptable.
00:29:270 (1,2) - No consistency here, this was slowed down in the Easy but the sliders play fast here in the Normal.
00:21:453 (2) - This needs to be closer to the first slider. Yup, I locked DS for the whole map now

At this point, I don't believe these two difficulties are ready for modding as they do not meet the standards of Easy and Normal mapping.
finished: 10:40pm
Tiff

Arphimigon wrote:

Lab Aesthetics Mod!
Results given in [x, y] formats



[Tiff's Normal]
Object at 01:19:868 - should be placed at: [247, 81] currently at: [248, 80] to move in line with slider at time 01:19:340 - RIP I DON'T GET IT;-;

I hope I didn't malfunction!
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makisokk
tiffany yu tyu please don't spam in forum, try answer in one post
CucumberCuc
Хеллоу

[Easy]
Нажми ctrl+a и два раза "Q", а потом проверь Distance Snap в AiMod (и совет: между объектами делай дистанцию не больше и не меньше 3ёх значений(можно и максимум 4))
на это сложности советуется использовать "Шаг временной шкалы 1/2"
00:02:228 (1) после окончания спиннера должно быть свободно 3-4 белых тика, советую убрать его и заменить например на слайдер или в конце него поставить круг
00:03:918 (1,2) будет лучше если ты сделаешь первый слайдер таким [img]https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8902378/img], потом скопируешь его и вставишь на месте второго слайдера, но ещё и нажав ctrl+h и ctrl+j
00:10:467 перемести начало перерыва на следующий белый тик
00:17:439 (1,2,3,4) ты имеешь перекрытие между 1 и 3 (и убери Whistle звуки на дорожках слайдеров), я думаю что так может быть намного лучше
00:22:509 (2,3) опять плохое перекрытие, лучше замени эти слайдеры на один большой от начала 2 слайдера и до конца 3 или сделай как например тут 00:29:270 (2)
00:30:960 (1) конец слайдера перемести налево чтобы он точно смотрел на начало следующего
00:31:805 (2,3,4) сделай так, чтобы конец слайдера 2 смотрел на начало 3 и конец 3 на круг 4 (или можно круг чутка передвинуть немного влево)
в остальном советую сделать тоже самое что и выше два + убери перекрытия, на этой сложности они ни к чему и не делай стаки, для EASY это ещё рано
00:54:622 (1) лучше убрать спиннер и сделать например так
00:59:692 (1,2) очень короткие слайдеры для такой сложности, как минимум их конец должен быть до следующего красного (1) и белого (2) тиков
в kiai времени у тебя вообще пошла вакханалия с расстановкой объектов, ненужные перекрытия и стаки, советую всё там изменить
01:31:805 (1) удлини до белого тика
01:33:495 (2) это будет сложно понять новичкам, советую просто сделать длинный слайдер от начала этого слайдера и до конца твоего слайдера

[Tiff's Normal]
it's how your diff look I suggest you completely change its complexity in terms of placement of objects
Recommendation on range placement of objects: make objects farther from each other than 7 values (click on the object and you're in the right upper corner you will see a yellow values of Prev and Next)
Check Distance Snap
ctlr+a and double "Q" and check Distance snap
I suggest for all the complexity if we were to do such floors as these: 00:10:678 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3), then do them at least with the same distance between objects
00:10:889 (2,3) - 00:14:058 (1,3) fix this overlaps
00:12:368 (1,2) it's not good blanket, do this
00:17:861 (2,4) do stack
00:19:974 (7) do more curve
00:21:664 (2,1) - 00:25:044 (3,5) it's for all diff - fix all this overlaps, it's not good
00:51:242 (1) it's not good flow
in all the complexity I suggest you to fix all your blankets sliders

[Hard]
Опять тоже самое: неудобные blanket слайдеров и их flow кроме некоторых твоих объектов на 00:44:904 до 00:55:889 - 00:59:692 (1,2,1,2,1) - 01:13:002 (1,2,3,1,2) и 01:26:523 (1,2,3,1,2) до конца карты, которые расставлены куда лучше, чем все остальные
и исправь дистанцию между объектами, которые идут после перерыва
00:05:608 (1,2,1,2) очень неудобные слайдеры, измени их
в kiai у тебя проблемы только в этих секциях 01:10:678 (2,3,4,5) - 01:24:199 (2,3,4,5), которые выглядят очень неуместно и ещё их проблема с перекрытием между 4 и 5

[Light Insane]
00:02:228 (1,2,3,4) я думаю что стоит поменять их местоположение, чтобы не было перекрытий, например сюда:
00:03:918 (1,2) слайдер 1 перемести направо и слайдер 2 стак с 00:05:889 (2)
00:20:185 (1) ты можешь переместить его направо
00:22:932 (2) перемести на x:464 y:292 чтобы хоть он не был так близко к слайдеру
00:24:199 странно что 1,3 у тебя идёт перекрытие, 4,2 и 1,3 идут стаки и потом 4,2 идёт опять перекрытие
00:41:840 (2,3,3) перекрытие
01:02:228 (3) перемести налево и вверх для лучшей дистанции
01:26:735 (3,4) перекрытие
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makisokk wrote:

tiffany yu tyu please don't spam in forum, try answer in one post

well I'll try lmao

CucumberCuc wrote:

[Tiff's Normal]
it's how your diff look I suggest you completely change its complexity in terms of placement of objects
Recommendation on range placement of objects: make objects farther from each other than 7 values (click on the object and you're in the right upper corner you will see a yellow values of Prev and Next)
Check Distance Snap
ctlr+a and double "Q" and check Distance snap
I suggest for all the complexity if we were to do such floors as these: 00:10:678 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3), then do them at least with the same distance between objects done
00:10:889 (2,3) - 00:14:058 (1,3) fix this overlaps done
00:12:368 (1,2) it's not good blanket, do this done
00:17:861 (2,4) do stack done
00:19:974 (7) do more curve done
00:21:664 (2,1) - 00:25:044 (3,5) it's for all diff - fix all this overlaps, it's not good
00:51:242 (1) it's not good flow done
in all the complexity I suggest you to fix all your blankets sliders
thanks ! :)
Topic Starter
-Mikan

CucumberCuc wrote:

Хеллоу

[Easy]
Нажми ctrl+a и два раза "Q", а потом проверь Distance Snap в AiMod (и совет: между объектами делай дистанцию не больше и не меньше 3ёх значений(можно и максимум 4))
на это сложности советуется использовать "Шаг временной шкалы 1/2" Переделал
00:02:228 (1) после окончания спиннера должно быть свободно 3-4 белых тика, советую убрать его и заменить например на слайдер или в конце него поставить круг Исправил
00:03:918 (1,2) будет лучше если ты сделаешь первый слайдер таким [img]https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8902378/img], потом скопируешь его и вставишь на месте второго слайдера, но ещё и нажав ctrl+h и ctrl+j Переделал
00:10:467 перемести начало перерыва на следующий белый тик Исправил
00:17:439 (1,2,3,4) ты имеешь перекрытие между 1 и 3 (и убери Whistle звуки на дорожках слайдеров), я думаю что так может быть намного лучше Исправил
00:22:509 (2,3) опять плохое перекрытие, лучше замени эти слайдеры на один большой от начала 2 слайдера и до конца 3 или сделай как например тут 00:29:270 (2) Переделал
00:30:960 (1) конец слайдера перемести налево чтобы он точно смотрел на начало следующего Не понял о чем ты,но этот момент переделал
00:31:805 (2,3,4) сделай так, чтобы конец слайдера 2 смотрел на начало 3 и конец 3 на круг 4 (или можно круг чутка передвинуть немного влево)
в остальном советую сделать тоже самое что и выше два + убери перекрытия, на этой сложности они ни к чему и не делай стаки, для EASY это ещё рано Переделал
00:54:622 (1) лучше убрать спиннер и сделать например так Переделал
00:59:692 (1,2) очень короткие слайдеры для такой сложности, как минимум их конец должен быть до следующего красного (1) и белого (2) тиков Я думаю это не очень сложно и только так можно подчеркнуть этот звук слайдерами
в kiai времени у тебя вообще пошла вакханалия с расстановкой объектов, ненужные перекрытия и стаки, советую всё там изменить Переделал
01:31:805 (1) удлини до белого тика Бит находится именно на синем тике
01:33:495 (2) это будет сложно понять новичкам, советую просто сделать длинный слайдер от начала этого слайдера и до конца твоего слайдера Переделал



[Hard]
Опять тоже самое: неудобные blanket слайдеров и их flow кроме некоторых твоих объектов на 00:44:904 до 00:55:889 - 00:59:692 (1,2,1,2,1) - 01:13:002 (1,2,3,1,2) и 01:26:523 (1,2,3,1,2) до конца карты, которые расставлены куда лучше, чем все остальные
и исправь дистанцию между объектами, которые идут после перерыва
00:05:608 (1,2,1,2) очень неудобные слайдеры, измени их Переделал
в kiai у тебя проблемы только в этих секциях 01:10:678 (2,3,4,5) - 01:24:199 (2,3,4,5), которые выглядят очень неуместно и ещё их проблема с перекрытием между 4 и 5 Они следуют вокалу ,так что я думаю все ок

[Light Insane]
00:02:228 (1,2,3,4) я думаю что стоит поменять их местоположение, чтобы не было перекрытий, например сюда: Переделал
00:03:918 (1,2) слайдер 1 перемести направо и слайдер 2 стак с 00:05:889 (2) О перемещении направо не понял,но 2 слайдер стакнул
00:20:185 (1) ты можешь переместить его направо -
00:22:932 (2) перемести на x:464 y:292 чтобы хоть он не был так близко к слайдеру Исправил
00:24:199 странно что 1,3 у тебя идёт перекрытие, 4,2 и 1,3 идут стаки и потом 4,2 идёт опять перекрытие Поправил
00:41:840 (2,3,3) перекрытие Стакнул
01:02:228 (3) перемести налево и вверх для лучшей дистанции Не понял куда
01:26:735 (3,4) перекрытие Исправил
Спасибо за мод ^^
fattypikachu
Hello, here's the GD I promised ^-^

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Topic Starter
-Mikan

fattypikachu wrote:

Hello, here's the GD I promised ^-^

pikachu's Insane
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Nice GD,nice work! :)
Nifty
I already mapped an inner oni for this, but it's pretty garbo so tomorrow I map remap and post ^^

edit: woops jk lol
Topic Starter
-Mikan

Nifty wrote:

I already mapped an inner oni for this, but it's pretty garbo so tomorrow I map remap and post ^^
Waiting :)
davidminh0111
Hello Mikan, from my queue
@here, GD as you request

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The song is kinda weird for my GD but it's okay, I know how to put the note and PM me if there is a mod for my GD
GL with this song, I like it
Osuology
Sorry again for taking so long, entirely my fault. Here's the NM!

Compulsive Gambling
Some sections are pretty much without a problem, and some seem to have some fairly deep rooted issues, unfortunately. Main issues would be rhythm and flow.
Some start in 00:17:439 (1) - this section. The flow changes a lot from linear to curved to circular to snappy all over the place. (In case you don't know what flow is, it's the way a player would play a pattern. So circular means that the player will play it in a circular motion, linear meaning in a line, etc.) This gives the gameplay a less polished feeling to it that isn't beneficial for your map.
Secondly, the rhythm sometimes in here is weird and doesn't follow the song. For example, 00:20:819 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - these don't follow the song, as the main start of the quadruplets shift from being on a beat to being offbeat. This would be easily fixed by using quintuplets (a pattern of 5 instead of 4). Of course, if you fix this, you have to fix the other times you do this as well.

00:34:235 (3) - This also has a problem with it ending on the start of a measure, which is the most important part of a measure, yet you leave a slider end on it which isn't very important. If you don't know much about music theory, I recommend watching pishifat's tutorial on 1324. Please watch it even if you already have, because the map definitely needs it.

00:50:819 (1,2,3,4,1) - The jumps between this doesn't make sense. Try removing the hitcircles and listen for what is the most important sound here. It's clearly the last one here, starting on a measure. The jump shouldn't be smaller than the jump between the 2-3 because the measure is more important.

Please remember that I'm not here to hate on you, or to hate on your mapping style. I'm here to show you how you can improve your map.
I can tell that you put a lot of effort into making this map and I would hate for that effort to go to waste :)

maki's Red Joker
With the next diff being higher star rating than yours, you need to change your difficulty name to "maki's Extra". If you guys intend to rank this mapset, that is.

The worst thing about the map is probably the aesthetics, and that's not the patterning. The issue is how you use overlaps. 00:03:073 (1,2,1,2) - For example this overlap, 00:05:714 (2,4,1,5,1,2) - these all overlap, etc. Now, of course, overlapping isn't bad just because. But, the structure is all off because you switch all of a sudden to 00:18:495 (2) - stacks. Why does it just switch all of a sudden? I don't see any good reason for this.

00:30:960 (1,2,3) - What in the world is this distance? It's not for any emphasis cause there's nothing in the song that requires this much distance. Nerf this.

01:02:121 (5,1) - Why is this huge anti-jump here? The beat needs emphasis, not the opposite of emphasis.

Generally, you repeat a lot of these issues, so make sure to look out for all of them.

I can tell that you tried to do cool stuff with this and I merely want to help you make the map realize it's full potential :D

MrKoseij's High Speed Another
Really good for the most part, but I would recommend you to go to View->Stacking and turn it off and fix the slight overlaps.

pikachu's Insane
Your diff has some problems with flow. It's either disregarded or constantly changed which makes the gameplay feel inconsistent as some parts would feel uncomfortable even if the song is calm. I would recommend you to decide on two types of flow (circular, linear, back and forth, etc.), one for the chorus, and one for everything but the chorus.

Otherwise, lower diffs are fine. Good luck with this set!
Topic Starter
-Mikan

Osuology wrote:

Sorry again for taking so long, entirely my fault. Here's the NM!

Compulsive Gambling
Some sections are pretty much without a problem, and some seem to have some fairly deep rooted issues, unfortunately. Main issues would be rhythm and flow.
Some start in 00:17:439 (1) - this section. The flow changes a lot from linear to curved to circular to snappy all over the place. (In case you don't know what flow is, it's the way a player would play a pattern. So circular means that the player will play it in a circular motion, linear meaning in a line, etc.) This gives the gameplay a less polished feeling to it that isn't beneficial for your map. It's playable and i'm too lazy and busy right now to fix all of this part so i'll no change it.
Secondly, the rhythm sometimes in here is weird and doesn't follow the song. For example, 00:20:819 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - these don't follow the song, as the main start of the quadruplets shift from being on a beat to being offbeat. This would be easily fixed by using quintuplets (a pattern of 5 instead of 4). Of course, if you fix this, you have to fix the other times you do this as well. Fixed but only first 2 times

00:34:235 (3) - This also has a problem with it ending on the start of a measure, which is the most important part of a measure, yet you leave a slider end on it which isn't very important. If you don't know much about music theory, I recommend watching pishifat's tutorial on 1324. Please watch it even if you already have, because the map definitely needs it. Fixed~

00:50:819 (1,2,3,4,1) - The jumps between this doesn't make sense. Try removing the hitcircles and listen for what is the most important sound here. It's clearly the last one here, starting on a measure. The jump shouldn't be smaller than the jump between the 2-3 because the measure is more important. Fixed,I think

Please remember that I'm not here to hate on you, or to hate on your mapping style. I'm here to show you how you can improve your map.
I can tell that you put a lot of effort into making this map and I would hate for that effort to go to waste :)

Otherwise, lower diffs are fine. Good luck with this set!
Big thanks for this mod :)
makisokk
@Osuology
Okay, i try fix alot what you say
Thanks for the mod
Rip Red Joker
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fattypikachu

Osuology wrote:

pikachu's Insane
Your diff has some problems with flow. It's either disregarded or constantly changed which makes the gameplay feel inconsistent as some parts would feel uncomfortable even if the song is calm. I would recommend you to decide on two types of flow (circular, linear, back and forth, etc.), one for the chorus, and one for everything but the chorus.
So, I've attempted to fix it, making the verse use circular flow and the chorus use back and forth flow, but if it still doesn't feel right, feel free to reply back \(^-^)

I hope the back & forth isn't infuriating Insane
osu file format v14

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MrKosiej

Osuology wrote:

MrKoseij's High Speed Another
Really good for the most part, but I would recommend you to go to View->Stacking and turn it off and fix the slight overlaps.
You mistyped my nick mate, also your recommendation of turining stacking off is stupid cuz you don't play with stacks off, so no point in mapping without them aswell.
davidminh0111
Fix my diff SV for 1.4 pls
Thank you
Topic Starter
-Mikan

davidminh0111 wrote:

Fix my diff SV for 1.4 pls
Thank you
I'm sorry but how to do that?I never map taiko before xd
davidminh0111
Updated for SV changes
osu file format v14

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Tags:Kakegurui Opening Compulsive Gambler OP tv size Yumeko Jabami 蛇喰 夢子 ryo(supercell) mrkosiej tiffany_yu_tyu makisokk fattypikachu davidminh0111
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Taoshi
[Easy]
00:22:509 (2) - hard to tell which way this slider goes without snaking sliders
00:34:340 (1) - dosen't flow well with the next object
[Tiff's Normal]
00:06:981 (3) - sounds odd
00:41:101 (1,2) - fix blanket
01:16:594 (3) - dosen't flow well with the next object
01:32:016 (1) - blanket?
[Hard]
Hp drain should be atleast 6+ according to the wiki page
00:17:860 (2,3) - fix blanket
00:38:988 (1,2) - blanket?
JarvisGaming
From queue
Okay the song sounds really complicated
I think the kiai's BPM is different
[Kantan]
00:07:086 (1) - Spinner should start half a beat later, too close to the note
00:23:353 - add k
00:30:114 - add K
00:43:213 - maybe you can add a slider(lasts for 2 beats) to represent the music here
00:49:551 (30) - should last for 4 beats
01:06:875 (13) - move this half a beat foward to fit the music
01:07:508 - add D
01:18:177 (29) - why is this here
[Oni]
00:19:973 (48) - too close to the next note
00:26:734 (89) - ^
00:30:008 (107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119) - needs a higher sv, too crowded. Also, WHY 1/8 SNAPPING???
i believe everything else is fine.
gl at rank :3
Topic Starter
-Mikan

Taoshi wrote:

[Easy]
00:22:509 (2) - hard to tell which way this slider goes without snaking sliders -
00:34:340 (1) - dosen't flow well with the next object -
[Hard]
Hp drain should be atleast 6+ according to the wiki page I prefer to pick castom stats for this mapset bcs It's just 2* and last diff(6*) just 5.5 hp xD
00:17:860 (2,3) - fix blanket fixed
00:38:988 (1,2) - blanket? fixed

JarvisGaming YT wrote:

From queue
Okay the song sounds really complicated
I think the kiai's BPM is different Nope

[Oni]
00:19:973 (48) - too close to the next note fixed
00:26:734 (89) - ^ fixed
00:30:008 (107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119) - needs a higher sv, too crowded. Also, WHY 1/8 SNAPPING??? fixed xd
i believe everything else is fine.
gl at rank :3 Thank you <3
Thanks for mods ^^
cashmoneyjk
This map has got a lot better since I last saw it. It has a lot of potential to be ranked. Don't give up on this map, believe in you :D ;)
Hey lululu
Timing is wrong...

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Topic Starter
-Mikan

Hey lululu wrote:

Timing is wrong...

---
563,405.405405405405,4,2,1,75,1,0
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I don't think so
Hey lululu

MikanTBG wrote:

Hey lululu wrote:

Timing is wrong...

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66920,451.127819548872,4,2,1,75,1,0
67146,394.088669950739,4,2,1,75,1,0
67540,422.535211267606,4,2,1,75,1,0
68385,421.644413211525,4,2,1,75,1,0
75131,422.386483632524,4,2,1,75,1,0
85268,422.535211267606,4,2,1,75,1,0
86746,433.212996389892,4,2,1,75,1,0
87829,422.535211267606,4,2,1,75,1,0
88674,422.535211267606,4,2,1,75,1,0
92054,434.782608695652,4,2,1,75,1,0
92380,408.163265306122,4,2,1,75,1,0
92584,413.793103448276,4,2,1,75,1,0
92894,413.793103448276,4,2,1,75,1,0
93515,434.782608695652,4,2,1,75,1,0
I don't think so
but too many this song use this timing and some object is unsnap.:thinking:
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