LiousPL wrote:

• ~ Najbardziej spóźnione M4M świata ~
  
  ~ Insane

1. 00:00:164 - 00:06:197 - Omijałeś dużo dźwięków, moja rada to mapowanie do takiego czegoś sliderów w dobrym flow, ale i tak tego nie zmieniaj, tylko taka sugestia... Tak widzę tę część, myśle że jest ok
2. 00:06:700 (3) - Obiekt nie jest ustawiony między 2 i 4, a powinien bo biorą w tym jumpie udział te same dźwięki, przez co flow się rujnuje. Nie za bardzo rozumiem czemu, gdyby był między nimi kąt byłby okropny, a w całym parcie jumpy są trójkątne
3. 00:10:471 - Nie chciałeś zrobić z tego tripleta? Niezły pomysł
4. 00:11:560 - 00:12:901 - te jumpy są anti-flow, więc no ten... Zwykły geometryczny pattern
5. 00:20:443 - tutaj powinien być obiekt. Ok
6. 00:21:113 - tutaj tak samo ^
7. 00:24:549 (2,3) - wysuń je trochę w stronę następnego obiektu, naprawisz przejście i jumpa w tym momencie Czemu nie
8. 00:48:096 (7,1) - wygląda to dziwnie ;-; Nic na to nie poradzę
9. 01:22:454 (3,4,5) - postaw je inaczej, tak wyglądają gupio gdy na siebie nachodzą W sumie racja
   
   - Refrenik naprawdę nieźle zmapowany Tylko widoczne są zaburzenia flow w niektórych miejscach więc trzeba będzie jeszcze trochę nad tym popracować. Dzięki , staram się to ulepszyć

Graffin wrote:

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crossing field in 2018 LUL

Insane
00:00:164 (1,2,3) - triangle shape avoiding overlap would fit better for the first 3 notes imo Why not
00:04:521 (1,2,3) - overmapped jump Fixed
00:14:912 (3,4,5,6,7) - fix structure on this, make every circle have the same distance from each other to make it look better Fixed
00:25:638 (1) - doesnt need NC imo, should NC next triple (00:25:638 (1) - ) I made this map with a rule I place a NC on every 4th beat
00:32:342 (4,5,6,7,8) - i see where you were going with this, but the 1/1 space makes it not fit very well, i would place the round stream around the same place as the previous slider Changed in other way
01:07:538 (2,3,4,5,1) - something like this would flow better I see what you mean but I've decided that every stream in kiai is going to be circle-like

• 00:03:515 (1,2) - It's bad flow, you can fix it
  00:07:538 (3) - This slider touches the strip of neatness, fix it https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10198748
  00:19:605 (4,1) - blanket it?
  00:19:605 (4,2) - Fix overlap
  01:00:834 (1,2) - Fix stack
  01:05:191 (1,1) - Bad overlap, avoid it

• 00:28:990 (3,1) - it's bad overlap
  00:55:303 (3,2) - ^
  00:45:415 (4,1) - Fix overlap, can do stack
  00:48:432 (5,1) - Fix stack

• 00:00:331 (2,1) - Maybe blanket this?
  00:02:845 (1,2,3) - I think in such a quiet place, you can reduce the spacing

makisokk wrote:

Hello, from my que
[Easy]

• 00:03:515 (1,2) - It's bad flow, you can fix it Done
  00:07:538 (3) - This slider touches the strip of neatness, fix it https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10198748 I think it's better
  00:19:605 (4,1) - blanket it? Done
  00:19:605 (4,2) - Fix overlap ^
  01:00:834 (1,2) - Fix stack ^
  01:05:191 (1,1) - Bad overlap, avoid it ^

[Normal]

• 00:28:990 (3,1) - it's bad overlap Fixed
  00:55:303 (3,2) - ^ ^
  00:45:415 (4,1) - Fix overlap, can do stack^
  00:48:432 (5,1) - Fix stack ^

[Insane]

• 00:00:331 (2,1) - Maybe blanket this? It's already blanket?
  00:02:845 (1,2,3) - I think in such a quiet place, you can reduce the spacing Done

Sorry little mod
Good luck

Thanks

SuperCSGO wrote:

Heyo! Returning the M4M!

Insane

00:00:582 (3,1) - Slider is too straight to blanket 3 properly, consider curving it more. Changed
00:07:538 (1) - The clap hitsound on the slider tail is way louder than the sound in the song, meaning it kinda just feels like I'm playing to the hitsounds. Make sure hitsounds don't drown out the music. Personally I don't see this as a problem but if more people will say same I change it
00:10:387 (1,2,3) - Spacing here is very similar, although different rhythms are being used. Try making 1,2 closer to better represent the 1/4 gap. It is placed after a break, and by this sudden acceleration I wanna ephasise these sounds
00:15:247 (6,7,1) - 7,1 has awkward flow - Ctrl+G 1 for the easiest solution. Nice idea
01:15:918 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - All the NCs in this section suggest to the player a 1/1 gap, then a 1/2 gap. The final 3 notes then break this with 3 1/2 gaps, even though the final note is NCed. Try to make it more obvious that the final note is another 1/2 gap. You're right

Normal

00:15:582 (4,5,6) - Breaking isometric grid to do a blanket looks out of place, IMO. It's probably a better idea to keep to the isometric grid here, for consistency. I see your point, but look that music here is changing from the previous pattern, so by doing this I want to somehow ephasise it

For a normal, there's really not a lot of 1/2 rhythms. It honestly feels more like an Easy at this point. Consider adding some more 1/2 beats. You're a second person to tell me that so I'll try

ez pz

00:57:147 (1) - This wave slider could be shaped better - moving the tail more to the left would make it much more symmetrical. Fixed

01:12:230 - These large gaps in rhythm feel really awkward. You could fill this with notes and try to follow the instruments even during the break in vocals. I think it's good place for break, cause instruments here are kind of downbeat

1:17:677 - ^

GL, HF!

Thanks

_Meep_ wrote:

where is the reply to underdogs?

General

1. Timing is not consistent between the difficulties, please relook at all the timing points used(red points) and see what is missing. Done
2. OD 8 for insane is good, 7.5 is just too low. Done
3. Check AIMod for Easy and Normal Done
4. The image below shows the spread of your song right now, I think you should add in another 2 more diffs to bridge the gap from normal to hard and from hard to insane, because the gap is pretty big along with the rhythm used. Will work on this
   

Metadata

1. Looking at https://osu.ppy.sh/s/700024, you're missing the tags "kirito" "asuna" "op" Done
2. Tags are also inconsistent on the Easy diff compared to the rest of the difficulties, please look over them again. That's not true

Insane

1. 00:02:845 (1) - I don't understand what you're NCing to at this part, If anything, the NCing should be swapped on 00:02:845 (1,3) -
2. 00:04:521 (1) - Here we can hear the music rising but theres no clear indication for an NC, 00:04:856 (3) - this should be the one being NC'd because theres a change in the tone of the piano on 00:04:856 - .
3. 00:04:856 (3) - this is overmapped, and doesn't fit the song.
4. 00:05:024 (4,5,6) - Silence these sldierends if you're trying to emphasise that piano-like instrument(idk how to call it lol)
5. 00:06:532 (2,3,4) - 00:12:231 (3,4,5) - 00:15:247 (6,7,1) - 00:20:946 (1,2,3,4) - 00:23:627 (8,9) - Errors like these are very common if you don't have a good understanding of DS. For example, 00:06:197 (1,2,3) - .00:06:532 (2) - since theres a kick here, it should have a higher DS compared to 00:06:532 (2,3) - , yet 00:06:532 (2,3) - is much larger in DS than 00:06:197 (1,2) - . Remember that you need to use distance to emphasize loud sounds. Same goes for the others I pointed out.
6. 00:07:538 (1,3) - the blanket pls lol
   
7. 00:10:387 (1) - silence the sliderend here.
8. 00:11:225 (5) - Remove the clap from the sliderhead, the section here is totally silent on the drums and kicks so there isn't a need to add kicks.
9. 00:11:560 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Why is this mapped to the background 1/2 beats but 00:13:571 (2,3) - are mapped to the vocals? I find the transition very odd since you could easily emphasisze both at the same time instead of switching inbetween them. Same goes for 00:14:242 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - .
10. 00:11:560 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - Claps here aren't needed, because the intensity is really, really low here. Alternatively, you could use claps on notes like 00:12:231 (3) - 00:13:571 (2) - 00:14:912 (4) - because of the change of tune in the guitar.
11. 00:11:560 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 00:06:197 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why is the intensity so different yet the spacing is more or less the same? Spacing should scale with intensity, and here it breaks that.
12. 00:19:940 (2,5) - why are these two different sliders? They both have the same sound on them.
13. 00:21:616 (5,6,7,8) - I recommend that you make this different from 00:21:951 (9,10,11,12) - , because the drums on 00:21:951 (9,10,11,12) - is much more prominent than the very subtle ones on 00:21:616 (5,6,7,8) - .
14. 00:22:286 (1,2) - I don't see why this should be a 3/4 + note ._. nothing in the music suggests that it should be one. 00:22:454 - Both vocal and guitar land on 00:22:454 - .
15. 00:24:968 (5,1) - NC should be swapped here, because its part of the next phrase of vocals.
16. 00:26:644 (9) - NC this for consistency with the NC patterning on 00:22:286 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
17. 00:26:644 (9) - If anything, this slider should be the one to have the 3/4 + note, theres a sound on 00:26:895 - and 00:26:979 - .
18. I suggest you get a hitsound for notes like 00:30:666 - 00:32:342 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - , since the kick in the song is pretty loud and shouldnt be ignored.
19. 00:32:509 (7,8,9) - Please have consistent DS.
20. 00:35:694 (1,4) - add a whistle onto the sliderends, it emphasises 00:36:532 (2,3) - 00:37:873 (5,1) - much more.
21. 00:38:543 (2,3,4,5) - These are mostly played to the guitar, but why 00:39:968 - and 00:40:052 - getting that same kickslider rhythm as before?
22. 00:40:387 (1,2) - I recommend you change the shape of the kicksldier, because now you're emphasising the vocals instead of the guitar that you used the emphasise, they shouldnt be having the same shape if they're emphasising different things
23. 00:41:057 (3,1) - NC's should be swapped here, no reason to NC 00:41:560 (1) - when there isnt any change in the music there, be consistent with what you did 00:38:376 (1) -
24. 00:42:566 - 00:42:733 - there are beats here, yet you ignore both using the sliderend, why? o-o 00:42:231 (3) - there isnt any point in changing the number of reverses just because, since the players would get used to the 2 reverses that u did on 00:40:387 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - .
25. 00:43:907 (1) - start this one tick earlier
26. 00:45:415 (1,2) - dont spam hitfinishes pls, find a different hitsound for the drum.
27. 00:46:085 (3) - remove the clap from the sliderhead, there isnt any claps in this vocal section.
28. 00:46:420 - The NCing is very wonky in the kiai. You NC to the vocals on 00:46:420 (1) - 00:50:108 (1) - 00:48:432 (1) - yet you NC to the song on 00:54:800 (1) - 00:58:823 (1) - , fix this please.
29. 00:55:471 (3) - I recommend you make 00:55:638 - clickable, since this is the most intense part of the kiai where the tune of the piano actually rises(i still dont know what instrument it is.) you could ctrl+G the rhythm on 00:55:471 (3,4) - , it plays perfectly well, just remember to move the notes once u finish
30. 00:58:488 (7,8,1) - 00:58:823 (1) - doesnt carry much emphasis to me since you're practically going in one continuous circular motion from 7 to 8 to 1. I suggest you change the flow there to emphasise 00:58:823 (1) - .
31. 01:00:834 (1,2,3) - Its NCed to the vocals but its not mapped to the vocals =.= 01:00:834 (1,2,3,4) - just ctrl+G this rhythm and replace the notes and it should be better.
32. 01:05:527 (5,1,2,3) - I dont see why you would want to map to the continuous 1/2 beats when you can easily map to the piano in the song, any reason for this?
33. 01:06:867 (5,2) - prevent overlaps like these, it stands out because its the only intentional overlap in your insane so far.
34. 01:07:538 (2,3,4,5,1) - why is the DS so small here? you should be carrying the momentum built up by all the movement on 01:05:191 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - , yes it should slow down slightly, but not to this extent.
35. 01:10:052 (5) - silence the sliderend.
36. 01:07:873 (1,2,3) - here as well, you could have easily mapped to the piano, just ctrl+G the rhythm on 01:08:208 (2,3) - .
37. 01:12:398 (1,2) - ctrl+G the rhythm since its much better to have the vocals be clickable.
38. 01:15:247 (5) - NC this because there is that weird drum noise thing(idk how to call this lmao)
39. 01:15:918 (1,1,1) - add claps to these too please.
40. 01:17:258 (3,4) - ctrl+G this rhythm, it sounds a lot better with the kick being clickable and plays a lot better.
41. 01:17:761 (5,7,10) - theres drum sounds here, why dont u use the kickslider thing u did back on 00:41:057 (3,4) - ? even though they are slightly different sounds, its bad to totally ignore them.
42. 01:22:454 (1,2,3) - why is this the only part mapped to the vocals while the others on 01:18:599 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - aren't?
    There is no clear structure for each part, and flow is pretty messy too.

Insane remapped

Hard

1. 00:01:504 (2) - this should have a clap as well if you're placing the hitsounds on the subtle kicks in the songs like how u did on 00:02:342 (5,1) - Done
2. 00:04:186 - the sldierend should have a clap too Done
3. 00:04:521 (1) - remove the reverse, push it 2 ticks forward and add a note in its place, its not properly mapped to the music Done
4. 00:10:890 (2) - why is this a reverse? you could have just made 2 1/2 sliders instead to fill the gap. Nice idea
5. 00:22:622 (2,3) - 00:25:471 (1,2,3) - why would u map the kicks for one part but not the other? keep consistency with what you're mapping. I use claps here as a rhythm
6. 00:26:141 (4,5) - this flows kinda weirdly since you dont have to move much at all to hit the full slider, giving less emphasis to the vocal 00:26:979 - . Changed
7. 00:29:996 (5,6) - i rather you change this to a 1/2 slider, it plays a lot better and keeps consistency with the 2 note + 1/2 slider thing you have in most of this section. Ok
8. 00:40:052 (5) - no hitsound here? Oh, you're right
9. 00:42:398 (4) - remove clap here, its once every 2 ticks after the big white one, and this doesnt fall under that. ^
10. 00:42:398 (4,1) - same as insane, you're not making the important sounds clickable Changed
11. 00:45:247 - theres a sound here, i dont think its wise to ignore it completely. Changed
12. 00:49:772 (1) - Why is this NC'd? no vocal lands on the sliderhead at all, supposing you're NCing to the vocals. If you wanted to NC this just because you couldnt place a note on 00:50:108 - , just make 00:49:772 (1) - a 3/4 slider and place a note there, or you could just make 00:49:772 (1) - a 1/2 slider. Nice idea
13. 00:54:800 (2,3,4) - why is the rhythm the simplest at the most intense part of the kiai? Even if its a hard, players would rather there be more notes than more distance to emphasise a certain section. Understood
14. 01:17:258 (1) - start this a tick earlier Guitar land here
15. 01:20:443 (6,7,8) - from how the diff went, i suggest you use a reverse slider instead, because thats how u emphasised vocals back in the first part 00:38:879 (3,3) - Done
16. 01:21:281 (9) - remove the clap, it doesnt have the clap sound in the song, it should only be for the 2nd and 4th tick after the first big white tick Ok
17. 01:22:286 (3,4) - blanket?
    Some DS inconsistencies but those are fine, the main problem is rhythm, because you're changing it up at awkward places at times

I'll stop here before your brain melts, gl!

MoeAsuka wrote:

return m4m
[Insane]
00:10:722 (3,4) - This distance is too large while 00:10:890 - the sound here are weak Lowered a little bit
00:45:499 - You ignore the big sound here.I suggest you use a 1/4 slider to replace (1) and make (2) more easily to read. Oh, that's a thing I really missed, thanks
01:23:460 (1,2,3,4,5) - Here is a star.Sure it can be play,but i think it isn't felling well.I suggest you use a normal stream or tuo triangle like this. I think your way is much harder to red, stays as it is

SPOILER

or maybe (1) in the middle and a square around it.Any one of method will make it play better.

[Hard]
00:17:761 (4) - move to y:350 to fix the triangle? Made it by rotating by 120 degrees, it's perfect triangle
00:18:934 (3,4,5,6) - same,there are some little wrong in distance.Maybe you need to use ctrl+shift+d to fix your triangle ^
01:20:443 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - please follow the drum here.Follow vocal are not natural. yeah, I think you're right, remapped

Because your map are well modded and easily to play I can only mod these.
Good luck!

Thanks for your mod

sullywally wrote:

my m4m
V1 REEEEEEE

Insane

00:03:515 (1,2) - flow is a bit weird on this part because seeing 00:02:845 (1,2,1) - it should've moved counter-clockwise making (2) somewhere on the right side of the pattern so, yea might wanna move (2) so it create a better flow Changed
00:10:890 (4) - NC? Yeah
00:11:560 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - using this rhythm, i feel like you're completely ignoring the vocal, since some of the ticks there is stronger than the other, in term of vocal, I would suggest to use this rhythm https://puu.sh/zNJa7/fb3572be05.png Vocal here is a background, it would be awkward if all this drums on white ticks weren't clickable, as a sliderends just to emhasise vocals
00:14:409 (2) - strong vocal syllable on sliderend, change this so its clickable Right, changed
00:17:258 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - the constant 1/2 on this part made me confused because they are not even mapped to the drum, or to that synth sound on the background too I see your point, so I made it more cosistant, though in my way
If you want to you can map the drum so, you'll have a really consistent rhythm like https://puu.sh/zNJfn/229139ee1c.png
or you can map that synth at the background, so the rhythm would offer something more interesting https://puu.sh/zNJhW/af4ca2b4e2.png
00:21:616 (4,5,6,7,8) - 00:21:951 (8,9,10,11,1) - comparing the drums on this two, they're same, so i dont see the need to make 00:21:616 (4,5,6,7,8) - a really passive movement listen closely, 00:21:616 (4,5,6,7) - is more synth, drums appear on 00:21:951 (8) - and make it stronger
00:24:465 (2) - strong vocal + drum on sliderend, change this so its clickable Done
00:26:141 (5) - that repeat literally land on nothing, might wanna just change to 1/1 slider Made a 3/4
00:32:677 (9,10,11,12) - i would suggest to make deceleration stream, if you want to capture that drum that going softer, instead of... stacking them like this, so it end up something like this https://puu.sh/zNJnK/e098aae396.png Nice idea
00:36:532 (2,3) - space them out, (3) is different than (2), so stacking them doesnt make sense at all, you wanna give (3) a little more oomph, because of the kick I know what you're up to, but I made it like this to ephasise that this part is much calmer
00:50:108 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - shouldn't rhythm be something more like this, if you want capture the vocal? https://puu.sh/zNJGB/1ab7d255a7.png I mapped to drums here
00:51:784 (1,1,1,1) - mute all this sliderend Nice idea
00:57:817 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - you're ignoring the vocal again with 1/2 jump spam. Vocal note. Hold. Use slider https://puu.sh/zNJJY/080b08774c.png Drums
01:02:510 (1,1,1,1) - mute all this sliderend ^
01:07:538 (2,3,4,5,1) - slider's movement is awkward after continuing the circular stream i would suggest to make the slider follow the circular rotation, like so. https://puu.sh/zNJMD/5f2ab1df72.png There's a sudden change in music, so map should mark it somehow
01:08:208 (2,3) - slider should've been on 01:08:376 - instead, for that sound Changed but in a little different way
01:10:052 (5,1) - Spacing is really small for a vocal now it's bigger
01:13:739 (3,4,5) - again hold vocal. i would suggest using 1/2 slider + 1/1 slider. Drums
01:15:582 (3,4,1,2) - movement is really awkward, (2) should'v continue the circular motion and goes to the right side of the pattern, that way the flow would be much smoother, like. https://puu.sh/zNJS3/6b503a8cb3.png Changed
01:17:929 (6,7,8,9,10) - 1/4 only start at 01:18:264 - I would suggest to use 3/4 slider or something Listen closely

I feel like apart from rhythm being a big issue on this diff, it lacks on structure and patterning, so uh... I guess all I can say is... map more Yeah, that's what I do :*

Hard

so... apparently its not just on Insane, that have some rhythm issue, but also on the other diff (Albeit, its not nearly as bad, I guess) Your main problem is that you can't keep a consistent rhythm choice throughout a section. One NC you're mapping drum, next NC you're mapping vocal, next NC you're mapping.... nothing?

I'll point out some rhythm inconsistency
00:17:929 (5,6) - again, like insane Drum on 5, and no drum on 6, this two should not be treated the same way. I suggest using 1/2 slider Ok
00:48:432 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:50:108 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this is what I meant by not keeping rhythm consistency, i would suggest for you to map the latter to the vocal as well Changed
00:57:147 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 00:59:158 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - again same deal, rhythm inconsistency. Changed a little

00:29:996 (5,6,1) - should've kept the rotation going, instead of making an obtuse angle like this Fixed
00:30:331 (1) - remove NC and NC 00:31:001 (2 Done
00:55:974 (6) - make this circle + 1/2 slider to fill that empty gap?Nah, I feel like it wouldn't fit there

Anyway, that's all from me

Agatsu wrote:

m4m

[insane]
00:54:800 (2) - i'd change this to a 1/2 circle and slider for the buildup Nice idea
00:09:884 (1,2) - this deserves a bigger jump Sure
00:45:750 (1,2,3) - i would have this jump smaller cuz it's bigger than most jumps in kiai Ok, nerfed
01:10:387 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - you could have these gradually increase in spacing Right, I haven't thought about it
01:23:460 (1,2,3,4,5) - it seems kinda unusual to have this at the end, i'd change it into a regular stream I know, but I think it's a nice gimmick to end a map

[hard]
00:05:024 (3,4) - 2 1/2 sliders fit better You're right
00:17:594 (3,4,5,6) - these jumps are really difficult, especially since it's not kiai yet. you can replace with 2 circles and a slider I think you have an older version of my map, it was already changed
00:18:934 (3,4,5,6) - 00:20:946 (5,6,7,8) - ^ and so on

good luck!