Camellia - Towards The Horizon · forum

- Pika

160 posts

Joined March 2017

- Pika 2017-07-14T19:21:04+00:00

It was hard looking for things, and I really couldn't find much wrong.
Good Luck!
HYPERGOD APPROVES!

Celektus

694 posts

Joined April 2014

Celektus 2017-07-14T22:07:29+00:00

-AsrieLx- wrote:
It was hard looking for things, and I really couldn't find much wrong.
Good Luck!
HYPERGOD APPROVES!

well you do bring up some good points, but I'll have to decline. You see I actually focused on making my map bad to get mods and now I'm memeing a Pishifat Video.

thx for the mod~

-jordan-

692 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

-jordan- 2017-07-15T18:10:17+00:00

-AsrieLx- wrote:
It was hard looking for things, and I really couldn't find much wrong.
Good Luck!
HYPERGOD APPROVES!

FunnyA

643 posts

Joined April 2016

FunnyA 2017-07-16T13:46:07+00:00

Hello ^^ From FunnyA's Queue...

Hmmm Actually i don't make upset to you.. I am so sorry what i say it to you that i can't modding your map

(you still make 4 stars above).
But i want join to GD (Easy) with you that you have not still make easy diff yet

If you aggree with my opinion.. you can send message on PM

Juiceys

530 posts

Joined June 2016

Juiceys 2017-07-16T17:21:58+00:00

Hard:

I think this should be renamed to light insane and create a different hard difficulty

00:10:108 (1,2,3) - Since 1 and 3 are overlapping, 3 is really hard to see, and therefore play.

00:02:336 (1,1) - Same here I realized

00:34:590 (4,1) - This overlap look's really unflattering I think it should just be a regular jump, flow is Super Wonky here.

00:21:766 (2,1) - Why the sudden flow break?

00:31:092 (4,5,6) - I only hear sounds justifying 2 circles here, ( 6 ) doesn't seem to be mapped to anything. Play it on 75% or 50% speed and see if you agree.
00:37:309 (4,5,6) - ^

01:03:735 (4) - Hate the flow here, At first the flow was going left, but all of sudden its a sharp turn right, and then we're going left again. The song doesn't really justify such a crazy flow break at this part. I would change flow to be natural

SPOILER

01:26:857 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is so unfun to play, it looks like a stream into a slider, but surprise! its a stream, into a jump, into a slider. Really confusing and not enjoyable.

I also think all the very small kiai's that last for 1 slider can be combined into kiai sections.

Kiai's are not consistent throughout every difficulty? is this intentional?

Celektus

694 posts

Joined April 2014

Celektus 2017-07-16T18:55:12+00:00

Juiceys wrote:
Hard:
I think this should be renamed to light insane and create a different hard difficulty

00:10:108 (1,2,3) - Since 1 and 3 are overlapping, 3 is really hard to see, and therefore play.

Yea for Hard that might be a bit of a stretch. moved 3 off by 30°

00:02:336 (1,1) - Same here I realized

changed the shape and overlapped the slider ends instead of 2s head

00:34:590 (4,1) - This overlap look's really unflattering I think it should just be a regular jump, flow is Super Wonky here.

unflattering doesn't really describe what's wrong with it and I'm not sure what would fit without overlapping. If you could please make a suggestion, if not I'll try out a few idea.

00:21:766 (2,1) - Why the sudden flow break?

I used it to emphasize the end of this rhythm variation and start of the next group of 4 bars in the build up.

00:31:092 (4,5,6) - I only hear sounds justifying 2 circles here, ( 6 ) doesn't seem to be mapped to anything. Play it on 75% or 50% speed and see if you agree.
00:37:309 (4,5,6) - ^

there is a Kick drum. It's in fact even stronger than the other 2 those are just more high pitch

01:03:735 (4) - Hate the flow here, At first the flow was going left, but all of sudden its a sharp turn right, and then we're going left again. The song doesn't really justify such a crazy flow break at this part. I would change flow to be natural

the sound on 4 is one of the strongest in this section and only on some notes gets this loud so movement like this combined with moving into the next section seemed appropriate. I do understand your concern tho and I would argues that this patterns is inconsistent with the other 00:56:740 (1,2,3,4) - which seems more reasonable. If you point out unnatural movement do so by comparing other parts in the song with each other, this way your point has more reasonable value to mappers who use more unorthodox movement. I might change it, but right now I think it is on par with other movements in terms of strain like 00:57:517 (4,5) - for example.

SPOILER

01:26:857 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is so unfun to play, it looks like a stream into a slider, but surprise! its a stream, into a jump, into a slider. Really confusing and not enjoyable.

I get that it is and it does conflict with the difficulty spread wise, though you didn't explain the specifics of the problem I feel like and didn't give suggestions on what would be more intuitive or fitting and why. I changed the triples into repeat sliders so that might help and make this section also less dense... It a bit too weird for me right now though so I would still appreciate some other ideas.

I also think all the very small kiai's that last for 1 slider can be combined into kiai sections.

Kiai's are not consistent throughout every difficulty? is this intentional?

Yea me and the host kinda where still debating if kiai flashes like this actually fit, since they are rankable. also making them one complete kiai would mean that 01:21:611 - until 01:21:611 - would be too much overall kiai time

I think saying some stuff was straight up unfun isn't that nice, but I do understand some of your arguments. thx for the mod. I also change some rhythms and stuff not much, but still.

CODO

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Usaha

Beatmap Nominator

508 posts

Joined May 2015

Usaha 2017-07-16T22:38:23+00:00

I'm a new modder but ill try.

Camellia - Towards The Horizon

Celektus' Hard

00:38:087 (1) - ctrl+g this so it flows better from the previous slider into the next one.
01:02:958 (1) - players at this level are expecting sliders to flow into the next object, suddenly breaking this when the song doesnt fit for it doesnt feel good.
01:33:269 (4) - maybe change this slider to something like this? it would flow nicely into the next circles

Special

00:08:068 (2,3) - dont have the jumps be so big, song just started and its relatively calm, similar spacing like 00:11:079 (2,3) - maybe?
00:14:285 (2,3) - ^
00:27:401 (1) - i dont know how your able to supposed to read this,i would try making it so you could hit all the notes while keeping your cursor in the middle(if you can already do this then disregard what i said)
01:39:486 (3) - curve this slider into the next one more like this
01:45:121 (1) - same thing as before
01:46:481 - having a break here doesnt fit the song so im assuming you havent finished this yet

Both of these diffs are mapped really well, good luck ^^

Shiratori

525 posts

Joined April 2015

Shiratori 2017-07-17T01:27:20+00:00

[HARD]
too many stream. i think it should be called light insane

timing point

28761,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,1
28955,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,0
30315,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,1
30509,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,0
31870,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,1
32064,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,0
34978,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,1
35173,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,0
36533,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,1
36727,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,0
38087,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,1
38281,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,0
39642,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,1

dont trun kiai time frequently
iits not good for eyes
00:56:740 (1,2,3,4,5) - i think there should not have over lap
01:02:958 (1,4) - ^
01:57:945 (3) - ugly? delete it and make a spinner
[special]
00:27:401 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - ??? i thinks there need Increasing spacing

my poor english

just it
i am noob in modding

-jordan-

692 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

-jordan- 2017-07-17T11:23:01+00:00

Takekii wrote:
I'm a new modder but ill try.
Camellia - Towards The Horizon

[notice]
Special
00:08:068 (2,3) - dont have the jumps be so big, song just started and its relatively calm, similar spacing like 00:11:079 (2,3) - maybe?
00:14:285 (2,3) - ^ it isnt as big as it looks as its a 3/4 beat gap, unlike the 1/2 beat gap example you gave.
00:27:401 (1) - i dont know how your able to supposed to read this,i would try making it so you could hit all the notes while keeping your cursor in the middle(if you can already do this then disregard what i said) it is playable, and also readable. i used a wide angle entering this pattern so the player will naturally adjust to the clockwise spiral circle pattern in this pattern as the cursor will already be moving that way. and also a red combo colour which i hadn't used in the map so far which helps too.

01:39:486 (3) - curve this slider into the next one more like this it is a 120 degree rotation of the other which is a choice i make throughout this map to make objects look visually similar and relate. also your suggestion doesn't look nice and changes the sliders to not look identical
01:45:121 (1) - same thing as before same reason as before
01:46:481 - having a break here doesnt fit the song so im assuming you havent finished this yet :<
Both of these diffs are mapped really well, good luck ^^

Amamiya Kanade wrote:
[special]
00:27:401 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - ??? i thinks there need Increasing spacing i think the spacing is just right as it is, any bigger and it is too hard to play but making it smaller ruins how it plays and looks

my poor english
just it
i am noob in modding

thanks for both these mods!

Celektus

694 posts

Joined April 2014

Celektus 2017-07-17T17:21:11+00:00

Takekii wrote:
I'm a new modder but ill try.
Camellia - Towards The Horizon

Celektus' Hard
00:38:087 (1) - ctrl+g this so it flows better from the previous slider into the next one.

Nope so far this has always been slightly opposed to the implied direction like here 00:31:481 (7,1) - and I think that slightly more uncomfortable flow emphasizes the sound well.

01:02:958 (1) - players at this level are expecting sliders to flow into the next object, suddenly breaking this when the song doesnt fit for it doesnt feel good.

I took the last suggestion from Juiceys in some way

01:33:269 (4) - maybe change this slider to something like this? it would flow nicely into the next circles

I did something similar

Amamiya Kanade wrote:
[HARD]
too many stream. i think it should be called light insane

I'm actually looking for suggestions on how to further undermap it

timing point
28761,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,1
28955,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,0
30315,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,1
30509,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,0
31870,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,1
32064,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,0
34978,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,1
35173,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,0
36533,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,1
36727,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,0
38087,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,1
38281,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,0
39642,-83.3333333333333,4,3,1,100,0,1

I dob't understand what that box is about?!? ;_;

dont trun kiai time frequently
iits not good for eyes

I halfed the frequency of them and deleted the last few. If you meant the abruptness of them, those are called kiai flashes and they are legitimately usable

00:56:740 (1,2,3,4,5) - i think there should not have over lap
01:02:958 (1,4) - ^

I do it frequently in this section and somewhat introduced it in earlier parts. I won't change it yet.

01:57:945 (3) - ugly? delete it and make a spinner

"ugly?" why question mark? I think that one looks fine, It would've helped to know why you think it looks ugly.

my poor english
just it
i am noob in modding

thx to both of you for the mods~

I further undermapped it too.

Code son

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yShadowXOP_

536 posts

Joined January 2016

yShadowXOP_ 2017-07-17T17:35:27+00:00

Loli's Mod Queue

NM

yShadowXOP_ wrote:
Special:

00:05:250 (1) - Remove NC
00:09:914 - add circle
00:11:468 (1) - ^
00:18:657 (3) - in my opinion here could be 2 slider than a reverse (Just opinion)
00:45:276 (1) - NC unnecessary, because it does not start a new beat or anything
00:47:122 (2) - i think this slider should start here 00:47:025 (1) -

I really do not know if this mod helps in anything because I'm not good at technical map ; _;

Good Luck with the map XD

-jordan-

692 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

-jordan- 2017-07-17T19:49:17+00:00

yShadowXOP_ wrote:
Loli's Mod Queue

NM
yShadowXOP_ wrote:
Special:

00:05:250 (1) - Remove NC no, firstly the nc removes the follow point which is intentional as the overlap with the previous doesnt look a e s t h e c i c a l l y pleasing to me. but it is also a simpler version of 00:41:876 (5,1,2,3,1) - 00:48:094 (5,1,2,3,1) - since these patterns are strange in the way they both use 1/4 and 1/2 stacks that look identical to each other i wanted to introduce it to give it a way to visually relate the last 3 circles of the pattern, so its like that one but with out 1/4 beat rhythm and the same combo colour use.
00:09:914 - add circle mapped it in a different way to express that noise
00:11:468 (1) - ^ same reason
00:18:657 (3) - in my opinion here could be 2 slider than a reverse (Just opinion) reverse is better so i can reduce the rhythm density at the start of the build up (and also avoid mapping that pesky 1/6 melody)
00:45:276 (1) - NC unnecessary, because it does not start a new beat or anything why does it not starting on a new beat make it unneccesary
00:47:122 (2) - i think this slider should start here 00:47:025 (1) - if you listen the bass kick in the song is on the blue tick, not the down beat

I really do not know if this mod helps in anything because I'm not good at technical map ; _;

Good Luck with the map XD

thank you for the mod it was useful for me, it helped me fix some other parts you didnt mention

Celektus

694 posts

Joined April 2014

Celektus 2017-07-18T22:22:47+00:00

Me and -Jordan- simplified some quads and other rhythms

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 27304
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: None
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 3890,14480,16326,53631,66066,78502,94046,100263
DistanceSpacing: 0.5
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 2

[Metadata]
Title:Towards The Horizon
TitleUnicode:Towards The Horizon
Artist:Camellia
ArtistUnicode:かめりあ
Creator:-Jordan-
Version:Celektus' Hyper
Source:REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア
Tags:the reflesia of eternity konami artcore drumstep folk
BeatmapID:1355658
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:4
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coke bottle

271 posts

Joined May 2017

coke bottle 2017-07-19T11:21:56+00:00

hihi from my q

also me is chinese so english might not be that gud (i got my friend to translate for me lol)

First of all, remove the red timing point at 00:00:781 - . The downbeat does not start here, and therefore there should not be any timing points here. This also goes for all other difficulties. Place timing points on 00:02:336 - instead, where the downbeat starts.

Hyper

SPOILER

fweel liek adding a circle mwight be noicer 00:04:085 -
00:06:999 (1) - change to 1/4 or 1/2 slider. 3/4 gaps in maps are not really recommended in a map. (It's just filler to handle this irregular rhythm, will be mucho better to play)
00:13:217 (1) - ^
00:16:714 (2) - ^
00:18:268 (2) - ^
00:19:920 (2) - ^
00:20:600 (5) - ^
00:22:931 (2) - ^
00:50:522 (1) - ^
00:07:388 (3) - long slider maybe??
00:10:497 (3) - change to 1/4 slider with 1 repeat would make it sync better
00:04:279 (2) - ^
01:00:626 (4) -
00:05:833 (6) - make it a kickslider (you know the 1/4 slider) with 1 repeat would sync better
00:05:445 (5) - ^
00:11:663 (6,7) - ^
00:28:761 - starting from here, don't use kiai just for fountains. It IS a drop so i'd recommend you to use the full kiai time from 00:28:761 - to 00:40:807 -
But if u really want the fountains, just keep the extra kiai you have there, and just just remove all kiai stoppers.
00:30:218 - add another circle here cuz got sound here
00:33:327 - add circle here?
00:36:436 - ^
00:50:037 - add a 1/4 slider here maybe??
01:20:833 (4) - remove the repeat and add a 1/4 slider on 01:21:222 - with 2 repeats
01:21:902 - add circle here?
01:22:388 - add 1/4 slider?
01:22:776 (7) - change to 1/4 slider with 2 repeats?
01:27:828 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this part do the same for ^ and ^^ and ^^^
01:29:674 - add circle?
for these 2 01:31:714 (5,6) - how about changing to 1/4 sliders with 1 repeat
add 1/4 slider? 01:33:851 -
for the rest of this drop just adjust to the above mentioned
for the next part with the fountain thing just do what i said earlier
01:50:853 - 1/4 slider maybe?
01:51:533 - ^
i'm too lazy to point out the irregular rhythm in the rest of this drop, just dyi lol.

Special

SPOILER

00:06:999 (1) - change to 1/4 or 1/2 slider to filter out irregular rhythms (:v)
00:07:776 (1) - ^
........ just go find yourself this is taking too long it can be applied to rest of maps too okeu? (please i swear i'm not lazy the hyper totally did not take me 1 hour to mod

)
00:18:560 (2) - not necssary. can be deleted
ehh...
im noob mod i can't find anything else
i means its an insane map so the music sync overall is gud.
but can you also like mske someof the slidershapes more understand-de-ble?
like for 00:28:761 (1) - i feel like you could make the sliderhead a little bit off to the left maybe?
well then time to map the drop don't you think?

sorry if mod sucks imo
hope that you find at least 1 thing helpful xD

Celektus

694 posts

Joined April 2014

Celektus 2017-07-19T17:09:45+00:00

Reynolduh wrote:
hihi from my q

also me is chinese so english might not be that gud (i got my friend to translate for me lol)

First of all, remove the red timing point at 00:00:781 - . The downbeat does not start here, and therefore there should not be any timing points here. This also goes for all other difficulties. Place timing points on 00:02:336 - instead, where the downbeat starts.

Hyper

SPOILER
fweel liek adding a circle mwight be noicer 00:04:085 -
i wanna keep the rhythm density lower
00:06:999 (1) - change to 1/4 or 1/2 slider. 3/4 gaps in maps are not really recommended in a map. (It's just filler to handle this irregular rhythm, will be mucho better to play)
00:13:217 (1) - ^
00:16:714 (2) - ^
00:18:268 (2) - ^
00:19:920 (2) - ^
00:20:600 (5) - ^
00:22:931 (2) - ^
00:50:522 (1) - ^
The map has double so mapping 3/4 or 2/4 gaps is important in my opinion to establish the blue tick emphasis.

00:07:388 (3) - long slider maybe??
No I want less dense rhythm and it ends on a strong sound. You would need more reasoning to convince me.

00:10:497 (3) - change to 1/4 slider with 1 repeat would make it sync better
00:04:279 (2) - ^
01:00:626 (4) -
00:05:833 (6) - make it a kickslider (you know the 1/4 slider) with 1 repeat would sync better
00:05:445 (5) - ^
00:11:663 (6,7) - ^
no ends on clap and is supposed to represent the whole string pattern... I did this every slider it would be inconsistent to change and create too many 1/4th sliders

00:28:761 - starting from here, don't use kiai just for fountains. It IS a drop so i'd recommend you to use the full kiai time from 00:28:761 - to 00:40:807 -
But if u really want the fountains, just keep the extra kiai you have there, and just just remove all kiai stoppers.
Those are called kiai flashes and the are used to emphasize certain section without overusing kiai time. There are lots of ranked maps from proficient mappers which use this and the host does so too.

00:30:218 - add another circle here cuz got sound here
No host told me to undermap quads and triples are used in hards often to under map constant 1/4
00:33:327 - add circle here?
first of how? the pattern can't use a 1/4 jump into 1 and also I think it's not really appropriate here.
00:36:436 - ^this section also isn't supposed to be as dense as later section
00:50:037 - add a 1/4 slider here maybe??
No I think the release after the repeat expresses the single held string sound quite well.
01:20:833 (4) - remove the repeat and add a 1/4 slider on 01:21:222 - with 2 repeats
I don't think I entirely get your rhythm idea. but 2 1/4 slider would be too dense for this VERY calm moment of tension building in my opinion . I would even say anything more than this is already too much
01:21:902 - add circle here?
that's not undermapped enough imo
01:22:388 - add 1/4 slider?
I onyl add them on drum in this section so no.
01:22:776 (7) - change to 1/4 slider with 2 repeats?
I don't think I'll implement that. would need more reasoning.
01:27:828 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this part do the same for ^ and ^^ and ^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I just memed you :3
01:29:674 - add circle?
for these 2 01:31:714 (5,6) - how about changing to 1/4 sliders with 1 repeat
add 1/4 slider? 01:33:851 -
for the rest of this drop just adjust to the above mentioned
for the next part with the fountain thing just do what i said earlier
01:50:853 - 1/4 slider maybe?
01:51:533 - ^
not sure how I would be able to implement those. also seems too dense
i'm too lazy to point out the irregular rhythm in the rest of this drop, just dyi lol.
most of the are intentionally undermapped (like all the 1/6)

If I didn't reply to anything It was mentioned in a similar section before.

sorry if mod sucks imo
hope that you find at least 1 thing helpful xD

It didn't really help me sadly, maybe I had taken some of your suggestion, if you would've explained why you think they are better. Still thx for the effort~

- AzRaeL -

363 posts

Joined April 2017

- AzRaeL - 2017-07-20T12:06:45+00:00

NM from here.

Red: Unrankable.
Blue: Important.
Black: Advice.

Celektus' Hyper

*Overall, all objects are too crowded.
*Some tortuous short sliders are not smoothing, suggestions to modify.
00:28:761 (1) - x155 y:341.
00:34:590 (4,1) - bad overlap and too close.
00:38:087 (1) - Reverse it imo.
00:38:476 (2,3) - Far. It's easy to read incorrectly for Hard level player.
00:45:859 (1,4) - bad overlap.
00:50:134 - Missing note?
00:52:076 (1,4) - bad overlap.
00:56:740 (1,4) - ^
01:02:958 (1,4) - ^
01:04:512 (1,3,4,5) - It hard to read. plz move '1' away.
01:22:388 (5) - Missing note?
01:23:845 (4) - Set a note on 01:23:845 and slider start at 01:23:942.
01:28:605 (5) - Missing note?
01:30:063 (4) - The same problem.
01:32:103 (6,1) - Fix DS.
01:34:823 (1) - Same.
01:36:280 (4) - Same.
01:37:932 (5,6) - bad flow.
01:54:642and01:54:739 - Misssssssssssing note.

Special

00:13:120 (2,1) - Far, easy to judge wrongly, becuz the melody is soft here.
00:20:017 (3,4) - bad overlap, make it good-looking.
00:27:401 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - Fearful. Remap it plz.
00:29:149 (1) - x:416 y:373?
00:38:476 (1,3) - bad overlap.
00:53:631 (1) - Stack on 00:53:145 (1).
01:26:565 (2,3) - Wrong.

01:39:000 (2,3) - ^
01:39:389 (2,3) - Make them blanket.
01:45:121 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - Same.
01:46:481~01:57:362 - Unfinished?

-jordan-

692 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

-jordan- 2017-07-20T15:49:56+00:00

- AzRaeL - wrote:
NM from here.

Red: Unrankable.
Blue: Important.
Black: Advice.

Special
00:13:120 (2,1) - Far, easy to judge wrongly, becuz the melody is soft here. ** this blue tick double rhythm is used a lot in the intro so players should be used to it by here.
00:20:017 (3,4) - bad overlap, make it good-looking. **subjective, i think it looks good
00:27:401 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - Fearful. Remap it plz. ** no lol give reason
00:29:149 (1) - x:416 y:373? ** all of the fast sliders use this close blanket on the 1/4, changing this would ruin the structure
00:38:476 (1,3) - bad overlap. ** subjective, i think it looks good
00:53:631 (1) - Stack on 00:53:145 (1). ** i dont use this perfect 1/2 stack in the map, the overlap looks good imo and i dont see a reason to stack it
01:26:565 (2,3) - Wrong. ** i was avoiding using 1/6 bursts throughout this map as it makes it feels lot more intense speed then the song really is even though the drum follows 1/4 rhythm throughout so i mapped it like this.

01:39:000 (2,3) - ^
01:39:389 (2,3) - Make them blanket. ** it blankets 01:39:000 (2) - and the slider before it
01:45:121 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - Same. ** if you think this is unrankable give me a reason
01:46:481~01:57:362 - Unfinished? ** yes haha

thanks for mod

Celektus

694 posts

Joined April 2014

Celektus 2017-07-20T18:39:20+00:00

- AzRaeL - wrote:
NM from here.

Red: Unrankable.
Blue: Important.
Black: Advice.

Celektus' Hyper
*Overall, all objects are too crowded.
yea I'll maybe work on that can't really say more than that.
*Some tortuous short sliders are not smoothing, suggestions to modify.
I'll look through the map
00:28:761 (1) - x155 y:341.
no. If you take 00:30:315 (1,2) - ctrl + H it and tilt it by 30° you'll see that it's the same as 00:28:761 (1,2) - . I might move 00:28:178 (1) - but the overlap is making up a perfect triangle so it at least has some logic behind the overlapping
00:34:590 (4,1) - bad overlap and too close.
kinda fixed it
00:38:087 (1) - Reverse it imo.
nah there is nothing justifying that
00:38:476 (2,3) - Far. It's easy to read incorrectly for Hard level player.
moved
00:45:859 (1,4) - bad overlap.
Not really it's overlapping half the slider body so it at least makes sense as a aesthetic choice.
00:50:134 - Missing note?
I've tried to implement it. might change it again
00:52:076 (1,4) - bad overlap.
again it has logic behind it and repeats through out the song. alternatives would be more helpful
00:56:740 (1,4) - ^
01:02:958 (1,4) - ^
It deliberately repeats to be consistent
01:04:512 (1,3,4,5) - It hard to read. plz move '1' away.
yea sure
01:22:388 (5) - Missing note?
not in my newest version so I fixed it apparently
01:23:845 (4) - Set a note on 01:23:845 and slider start at 01:23:942.
I don't think the sound on that white tick is important at all. that would just make the Kicks on both slider ends stand out less.
01:28:605 (5) - Missing note?
was fixed already
01:30:063 (4) - The same problem.
mhm
01:32:103 (6,1) - Fix DS.
kinda did it... also I don't use DS.
01:34:823 (1) - Same.
mhm
01:36:280 (4) - Same.
mhm
01:37:932 (5,6) - bad flow.
01:54:642and01:54:739 - Misssssssssssing note.
I don't think I wanna map those since 01:54:836 (2,3,4,5,6) - is already way too dense with 1/4 sliders

I fixed a few things so it was helpful. thx~

@-Jordan- use HS copier again

nearly forgot

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Blan_C

306 posts

Joined March 2016

Blan_C 2017-07-23T07:05:37+00:00

Hello, NM from my queue
Special

00:08:748 (2) - Fix DS - its a bit closer to 00:08:554 (1) -
00:09:525 (3) - ^
00:06:902 (3,1) - 00:13:120 (2,1) - I think people will misread this two notes- there is 1/4 gap between circles. I saw in previous mod you said that ppl will get used to it but i dont get the idea of spacing this with DS like that - 00:13:120 (2,1) - violin is quieter (tone is lower) than 00:13:508 (2,3) - where violin is loud and you stack notes + there are is same thing 01:39:097 (3) - spaced just like in intro but kiai have much higher intensity so its understandable.
00:29:149 (1,1,1) - maybe make these blankets with the same DS? For example 00:35:367 (1,1) - a bit diferent spacing of the circle from wub-wub slider

I am bad at modding wubs/technical maps so i cant say much, good luck!

-jordan-

692 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

-jordan- 2017-07-24T21:32:33+00:00

Blan_C wrote:
Hello, NM from my queue
Special
00:08:748 (2) - Fix DS - its a bit closer to 00:08:554 (1) - ok
00:09:525 (3) - ^ oops
00:06:902 (3,1) - 00:13:120 (2,1) - I think people will misread this two notes- there is 1/4 gap between circles. I saw in previous mod you said that ppl will get used to it but i dont get the idea of spacing this with DS like that - 00:13:120 (2,1) - violin is quieter (tone is lower) than 00:13:508 (2,3) - where violin is loud and you stack notes + there are is same thing 01:39:097 (3) - spaced just like in intro but kiai have much higher intensity so its understandable. i understand what you mean but i wanted to introduce every pattern i use like this in the intro, and this is me introducing this kind of 1/4 snap. i think it is also fine to do here because even though you say it is quieter than the violin after it with the normal stack, here i am emphasising the double kick drums in the music so i wanted to cause sudden movement to the next pattern, whereas the example you linked only has the violin in the music
00:29:149 (1,1,1) - maybe make these blankets with the same DS? For example 00:35:367 (1,1) - a bit diferent spacing of the circle from wub-wub slider i'll make them all the same
I am bad at modding wubs/technical maps so i cant say much, good luck! thanks!

play rainworld

373 posts

Joined May 2015

play rainworld 2017-07-26T04:08:55+00:00

q

Special

~ 00:29:538 (4) - ends on a louder note than it starts on, maybe do this instead? if you do that add a circle at 00:29:829
~ 00:30:898 (2,3,4,1) - maybe do something similar to above. should be enough examples by now
~ 00:39:253 (5,3) - personally don't like how these overlap
~ 00:41:585 (4,5,1) - maybe do what you did for 00:04:085 (2,3,4,5) instead? seems like it would work better
~ 01:26:565 (2,3) - swear i'm hearing 1/6 instead of 1/4
~ 01:39:000 (2,3) - ^

Hyper

~ 00:02:336 (1) - nc?
~ 00:06:416 (4) - think you should extend this to 00:06:805 (5)
~ 00:06:805 (5) - nc?

looks good! good luck!

Celektus

694 posts

Joined April 2014

Celektus 2017-07-26T19:46:04+00:00

SnivehNDraegonz wrote:
Hyper

~ 00:02:336 (1) - nc?
removed NC here 00:03:890 -
~ 00:06:416 (4) - think you should extend this to 00:06:805 (5)
yee
~ 00:06:805 (5) - nc?
yes every 2 measures since 00:03:890 -
looks good! good luck!

@-Jordan-

map from here 00:02:142 - to here 00:03:890 - you scrub I did it too fhegghit

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krin2002

1 post

Joined August 2015

krin2002 2017-08-11T16:26:05+00:00

OMG SO GOOD BEATMAP (NEED RANKED)

Meow Mix

56 posts

Joined July 2013

Meow Mix 2017-08-13T22:15:21+00:00

Overall Thoughts
I don't really have any. I suck at mapping and modding. I'm just modding this because -Jordan- promised me ~~his catgirl collection~~ to testplay a map in exchange for this. Alright, moving on to the difficulties!

KKip's Hard
As of August 13, 2017

Overall Thoughts

Note density should consist of mostly 1/2, occasional 1/4, or slower rhythms.

The note density of the map is far too high for any reasonable hard difficulty, even with short reversing sliders. On the wiki page for the ranking criteria, the hard difficulty guidelines states that, "Note density should consist of mostly 1/2, occasional 1/4, or slower rhythms." The note density is closer to that of a hyper or insane difficulty. To illustrate, change the AR to 8.5 - 8.8. Notice that the map suddenly becomes a lot easier to read.

Take a look at ranked Hard difficulties of similar songs.
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/793619
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1154745
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1257167

As such, I'm not able to completely mod this diff as I'm not sure whether to mod this as a hard difficulty or as insane difficulty.

Celektus' Hyper
As of August 19, 2017

Nitpicking

00:03:890 (2) - New combo?
00:13:508 (2,3,4) - These objects follow the violin / viola / whatevertheloudestinstrumentiscalled instrument. 00:14:285 (5,6,7) These objects look exactly the same, but don't follow he violin / viola / whatevertheloudestinstrumentiscalled instrument. That ain't right. Gotta add some unique flair to 00:14:285 (5,6,7) to tell the players that it's two different instruments. Ottherwise, players gon' be confuzzled.
00:17:006 (3,4) - This double looks like a spicy 1/2 double, right? Wrong! It's a spicy trap. Look at this: https://puu.sh/xeqHq.png. The big pink squiggles are strong sounds and the small pink squiggles are weak sounds. Notice that there's a small squiggle that's mapped to nothing. Players want to hit on that, making them think it's a 1/2 double. Do something like this instead: https://puu.sh/xeqUA.png. Do this for 00:19:822 (2,3,4) and 00:22:931 (2,3,4) too.
00:20:989 (1,2) - Seems undermapped, especially the second slider. 00:16:326 (1,2,3,4,5) -, 00:17:880 (1,2,3,4,5) and 00:19:434 (1,2,3,4,5) sound almost exactly the same as 00:20:989 (1,2) . Mind explaining your reasoning behind this?
00:29:149 (2,3) - The spacing between 00:28:761 (1,2,3,4) is pretty much identical, even though 00:29:149 (2) is mapped to a percussion sound and 00:29:344 (3,4) is mapped to the wubs. Gotta add some unique flair to tell the players that it's two different instruments. Same with: 00:30:315 (1,2) -, 00:31:870 (1,2) -, 00:34:978 (1,2) -, 00:36:532 (1,2)
00:31:092 (4,5,6) - The objects 00:31:092 (4,5) follow the wub electronic noises while 00:31:287 (6) follows a non-wub percussion noise. I think it should be mapped like this 00:29:538 (4,5) to have the two instruments be distinct.
00:32:647 (4,5,6,7) - The spacing of https://puu.sh/xeUSX.png implies that you're supposed to hit it like this: https://puu.sh/xeURF.png . Maybe do something like this 00:38:476 (2,3,4) ?
00:41:585 (4,5,6,1) and 00:45:470 (5,1,2,3,4) - Having dropoff flow for the violin/whatever instrument and having more linear flow for percussion is really cool!
00:59:460 (3,1) - Spacing implies https://puu.sh/xf84K.png
01:04:706 (2,3,4,5) - This part looks a little cluttered even with high AR, with 01:04:706 (2,3) on top of 01:05:289 (5).
01:20:445 (4) - Looks like a 1/4 slider, which will mess players up.

Kujinn's Insane
As of August 21, 2017

Overall Thoughts
I am not worthy.

Special
As of August 22, 2017

Overall Thoughts
(Coming soon)

Last edited by Meow Mix 2017-08-22T21:01:48+00:00, edited 17 times in total.

duveringscarlet

duveringscarlet 2017-08-18T00:56:02+00:00

Celektus' Hyper

Definitively a good diff overall, no big issue.

List some personal opinions below,
00:25:652 (1,1,1,1) - Better to extend the beat since your rhythm doesn't sound continuous.

00:55:769 - Even there is no beat here, but I would like to add a note for smooth play.

pattern

01:04:804 (2) - According to the distance, make it farther from 01:04:512 (1) and closer to 01:04:998 (3)

Just an example

01:47:938 (7) - New Combo here
01:51:047 (7) - ^
01:54:156 (7) - ^

Good Luck on your mapping :3

Celektus

694 posts

Joined April 2014

Celektus 2017-08-18T14:11:19+00:00

duveringscarlet wrote:
Celektus' Hyper

Definitively a good diff overall, no big issue.

List some personal opinions below,
00:25:652 (1,1,1,1) - Better to extend the beat since your rhythm doesn't sound continuous.
I think for a Hyper it's better to not use 1/4 gaps here and rather add more buffer for players... I'm a bit unsure I might change it (also thé sounds of rhythms don't mean much)

00:55:769 - Even there is no beat here, but I would like to add a note for smooth play.
I could add a slider maybe, but making something clicked which doesn't exist should only be done to simplify stuff like 3/4 gaps in my opinion. *edit: I didn't add a slider yet
pattern
01:04:804 (2) - According to the distance, make it farther from 01:04:512 (1) and closer to 01:04:998 (3)
yea also reminded me that I could simplify the 3/4 beat gap with a double on that hat on the red tick
Just an example
01:47:938 (7) - New Combo here
01:51:047 (7) - ^
01:54:156 (7) - ^
no I only use NCs on downbeats add NCs on those makes no sense with my NC structure

Good Luck on your mapping :3

thx~

*edit: I changed a few rhythms from 3/4 to 1/2 with more notes

don't forget to copy the HS

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Celektus

694 posts

Joined April 2014

Celektus 2017-08-22T14:36:39+00:00

Meow-Mix wrote:

thx for taking the time btw I appreciate that

Celektus' Hyper
As of August 19, 2017

Nitpicking
00:03:890 (2) - New combo?
someone told me to remove it specifically
00:13:508 (2,3,4) - These objects follow the violin / viola / whatevertheloudestinstrumentiscalled instrument. 00:14:285 (5,6,7) These objects look exactly the same, but don't follow he violin / viola / whatevertheloudestinstrumentiscalled instrument. That ain't right. Gotta add some unique flair to 00:14:285 (5,6,7) to tell the players that it's two different instruments. Ottherwise, players gon' be confuzzled.
technically a good idea but they play the same sort of phrase twice which I think makes them more connected than disconnected or something, essentially I'm rather expressing the phrase than the instrument in this case
00:17:006 (3,4) - This double looks like a spicy 1/2 double, right? Wrong! It's a spicy trap. Look at this: https://puu.sh/xeqHq.png. The big pink squiggles are strong sounds and the small pink squiggles are weak sounds. Notice that there's a small squiggle that's mapped to nothing. Players want to hit on that, making them think it's a 1/2 double. Do something like this instead: https://puu.sh/xeqUA.png. Do this for 00:19:822 (2,3,4) and 00:22:931 (2,3,4) too.
Again technically correct, but I sort of tried to signal blue tick emphasis in later parts of the song, in the beginning the climax had a lot more quads, double and 3/4 beat gaps so I wanted to center my diff around that to be unique I won't change them yet, but since I adjusted a few rhythms lately I might do in the future if the map ever gets really simple rhythmically
00:20:989 (1,2) - Seems undermapped, especially the second slider. 00:16:326 (1,2,3,4,5) -, 00:17:880 (1,2,3,4,5) and 00:19:434 (1,2,3,4,5) sound almost exactly the same as 00:20:989 (1,2) . Mind explaining your reasoning behind this?
ok so the main reason was that it in fact sounds a bit different and those are ones where the flute lead whatever starts fading, like from 00:20:212 - to 00:22:349 - is no flute and the section sort of climaxes in itself. For short I wanted to express the lack of that flute and the climax of the section
00:29:149 (2,3) - The spacing between 00:28:761 (1,2,3,4) is pretty much identical, even though 00:29:149 (2) is mapped to a percussion sound and 00:29:344 (3,4) is mapped to the wubs. Gotta add some unique flair to tell the players that it's two different instruments. Same with: 00:30:315 (1,2) -, 00:31:870 (1,2) -, 00:34:978 (1,2) -, 00:36:532 (1,2)
I stacked 3 below 4 and moved 4 onto a Kick to further emphasize the Kick on and I moved all of the sections starts a bit to further emphasize them and the Snare after them... I also changed a lot more rhythms to doubles because you mentioned drums
00:31:092 (4,5,6) - The objects 00:31:092 (4,5) follow the wub electronic noises while 00:31:287 (6) follows a non-wub percussion noise. I think it should be mapped like this 00:29:538 (4,5) to have the two instruments be distinct.
I change like written above most rhythms to have stacks into Kick drums and mostly ignore the Bass layer now
00:32:647 (4,5,6,7) - The spacing of https://puu.sh/xeUSX.png implies that you're supposed to hit it like this: https://puu.sh/xeURF.png . Maybe do something like this 00:38:476 (2,3,4) ?
was also changed completely
00:41:585 (4,5,6,1) and 00:45:470 (5,1,2,3,4) - Having dropoff flow for the violin/whatever instrument and having more linear flow for percussion is really cool!
I haven't even looked up what drop off flow is lol
00:59:460 (3,1) - Spacing implies https://puu.sh/xf84K.png
I mirrored 01:00:237 (1,2,3,4) -
01:04:706 (2,3,4,5) - This part looks a little cluttered even with high AR, with 01:04:706 (2,3) on top of 01:05:289 (5).
I couldn't find a better solution, migth change in the future
01:20:445 (4) - Looks like a 1/4 slider, which will mess players up.
well I assume the SV change is obvious enough and it was hinted at with 00:28:178 (1) -

great mod thx~

this is actually getting really hard

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Est-

368 posts

Joined March 2016

Est- 2017-08-22T21:00:50+00:00

free mod from my free nm q

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LowAccuracySS

605 posts

Joined October 2015

LowAccuracySS 2017-08-22T21:05:10+00:00

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NeonLights

205 posts

Joined November 2014

NeonLights 2017-08-23T22:36:48+00:00

SICK, IS THIS A FREE NM?
yes it is

Send me to the horizon

[Menda's Nor-i mean-Advanced]
00:33:424 (6,7,8) - clean up this pattern, make it more symmetrical
01:13:061 (4) - idk if you are a fan of blankets but this could be much improved
01:14:616 (6) - minor aesthetic but you could make this a right angle with the reverse slider before it, imo looks better
01:16:947 (5,6) - not a fan of overlaps but this is ok, maybe you could rotate (6) 11 degrees and move it to 475,239?
01:22:388 (1,2) - you don't follow time-distance equality with this 1/2 jump
01:25:302 (6) - you decided not to map the snare at the end of this reverse slider, unlike every other place. I would recommend shortening the slider 1/2 a beat and mapping a circle for the last note, as the increased length might trick people up and to be consistent.
01:26:274 (7,8,9) - The 7 poses a readability problem as it overlaps the end of the slider. I would recommend you change ^ and figure out a new pattern
01:51:144 (9) - would recommend an NC here just to indicate there's a longer time gap here

[KKip's Hard]
00:29:344 (2,3) - I would suggest that you stack these to stay consistent with the spacing that you established earlier. Although in a hard time-distance equality doesn't matter *as* much, I think it would benefit if you just stacked those.
00:34:493 (7,1) - just a thought, but you use overlapping to indicate that the time gap is 1/4, maybe try avoiding an overlap here since the gap is 1/2
00:35:561 (2,3) - same thing as 00:29:344
00:45:082 (4,5) - This stack may pose a readability problem here since you consistently use stacks to represent a 1/4 gap between notes. It would be ok if you didn't switch between or introduced the concept early on, but you didn't.
00:52:854 (5,6) - I would be careful with this time gap and the 1/6 slider. It's not necessarily bad, but the rhythm is irregular and players may mistime it often
00:51:688 (5,1) - Just being nitpicky but maybe clean up this overlap here
00:58:100 (3,4,1,2) - Again, this overlap poses a readability problem. Recommend moving it out from under the slider.
01:12:284 (1) - I don't really see what you are mapping this spinner to. I would recommend moving the start of it further along the timeline to match the start of the intensifying drums.
01:30:548 (5,6) - see 00:45:082
01:36:766 (5,6) - ^
01:41:429 (3,1) - ^ (arguably this one is large enough where it might not be a problem but still good to take a look at it)
01:50:270 (3,4) - for better readability I would do something like this: https://i.imgur.com/gfPgaOP.png

[Celektus' Hyper]
00:28:178 (1,1) - After throwing a bunch of different spacings for each time gap, this spacing isn't clear and could pose a readability issue. I would either space it far away or do what you did with the other 1/1 gaps, like at 00:59:849
00:40:419 (5,6) - might have just been me but the DS for this 3/4 gap wasn't very clear
00:49:745 (6,7,8,1) - slight readability issue here with the fading slider completely overlapping 8 here
00:55:186 (1,2,3) - I would recommend you match the DS of the other stacks for this stack for consistency. It looks too similar to a 1/2 gap that you've established
00:59:849 (3,1) - You suddenly use this again after we got used to having 1/2 gaps not overlap like at the start of the song. While I understand that sound is quiet and you have hitsounded it that way, it poses a readability issue.
01:04:512 (1,2) - Ranking criteria- "Avoid visually similar 1/2 and 1/1 spacing." this looks exactly like a 1/2 spacing
01:23:845 (4,5,6) - Placing the 6 so close to the 4 might pose a readability issue
01:30:063 (4,5,6) - ^
01:33:269 (4,5,6) - could we nudge the 5 a bit down and to the right so it makes a nice circle pls
01:36:280 (4,5,6) - you know what I'm going to say
01:40:263 (7) - NC to indicate drastic slider change
01:45:898 (1,1) - same thing as the first point at 00:28:178
01:50:367 (4,5,6,7,1,2) - can we use the same DS to help players identify these 3/4 gaps, also differenciate these from your 1/1 gaps

Most of the map was nice, but the DS changes during the last technical part are too varied and make it hard to read the rhythm accurately.

[Kujiin's Insane]
00:22:543 (3) - I'm going to disagree with the use of a sliderend to map that strong kick drum. That sound is definitely stronger than the lead flutey thingy.
00:25:458 - terrific pattern I like it
00:27:206 - you don't map a very important ding here
00:34:201 (4) - this reverse slider should really start 1/4 a beat back if you're going to use it here. Doesn't make sense to map the last 4 beats of the drum burst and not the first
01:01:403 (1,2,3) - not sure what you're mapping here, because it definitely isn't the drums. Those start 1/4 a beat later than what you have
01:50:076 (3) - why does this have larger DS from the previous note? Seems like the same intensity.
01:51:921 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - something about this stream doesn't feel perfectly circular. Maybe try redo-ing slider to stream?

[Special]
I wouldn't switch between 1/2 and 1/4 time gaps for your stacks so frequently. Makes it hard to predict what is coming next. This could be fixed with lower stack leniency or doing the stacks yourself so that 1/2 are completely overlapping and 1/4 are not, just a suggestion
00:41:876 (5,1,2,3,1) - I know you introduced this concept earlier, but this particular rhythm, combined with the 1/4 gap at 5,1, makes this very hard to read. You also use different spacing for the next instance of this rhythm. I mean, it's ok, but just take a look at it anyways.
01:36:572 (1,2,3) - spacing emphasis is wrong here, 1-2 should be larger than 2-3
01:55:419 (2) - I would put an NC here since this slider is longer in time but slower SV

Celektus

694 posts

Joined April 2014

Celektus 2017-08-26T17:49:31+00:00

NeonLights wrote:
SICK, IS THIS A FREE NM?
yes it is

fuc boxes xd

[Celektus' Hyper]
00:28:178 (1,1) - After throwing a bunch of different spacings for each time gap, this spacing isn't clear and could pose a readability issue. I would either space it far away or do what you did with the other 1/1 gaps, like at 00:59:849
I stacked them
00:40:419 (5,6) - might have just been me but the DS for this 3/4 gap wasn't very clear
the whole song up until this point was always very 3/4 focused so I decided to add a additional difficulty element by not simplifying them 3/4 gap and I think that's fine for now at this very special part of the song
00:49:745 (6,7,8,1) - slight readability issue here with the fading slider completely overlapping 8 here
fair enough made it easier
00:55:186 (1,2,3) - I would recommend you match the DS of the other stacks for this stack for consistency. It looks too similar to a 1/2 gap that you've established
I'm not 100% sure what you mean but I think I made it better
00:59:849 (3,1) - You suddenly use this again after we got used to having 1/2 gaps not overlap like at the start of the song. While I understand that sound is quiet and you have hitsounded it that way, it poses a readability issue.
@-Jordan- I agree that's really dumb sounding
01:04:512 (1,2) - Ranking criteria- "Avoid visually similar 1/2 and 1/1 spacing." this looks exactly like a 1/2 spacing
I already changed that last update it's now not 1/1 anymore
01:23:845 (4,5,6) - Placing the 6 so close to the 4 might pose a readability issue
01:30:063 (4,5,6) - ^
I don't think that's a problem in a intense section like this, I'll keep it until someone give reasoning why it's unfair compared to everything else
01:33:269 (4,5,6) - could we nudge the 5 a bit down and to the right so it makes a nice circle pls
I think the last update made this more complicated to pull off so I won't for now
01:36:280 (4,5,6) - you know what I'm going to say
yea but again I think it's respectably hard
01:40:263 (7) - NC to indicate drastic slider change
in this case It makes sense I guess
01:45:898 (1,1) - same thing as the first point at 00:28:178
wait it's already NC'd?
01:50:367 (4,5,6,7,1,2) - can we use the same DS to help players identify these 3/4 gaps, also differenciate these from your 1/1 gaps
last update simplified them with 1/4

Most of the map was nice, but the DS changes during the last technical part are too varied and make it hard to read the rhythm accurately.
noob git gud at dis geam

thx was helpful~

it me ya boi

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KKipalt

129 posts

Joined August 2015

KKipalt 2017-09-07T23:57:45+00:00

mods

Meow-Mix wrote:
KKip's Hard
As of August 13, 2017

Overall Thoughts
Note density should consist of mostly 1/2, occasional 1/4, or slower rhythms.
The note density of the map is far too high for any reasonable hard difficulty, even with short reversing sliders. On the wiki page for the ranking criteria, the hard difficulty guidelines states that, "Note density should consist of mostly 1/2, occasional 1/4, or slower rhythms." The note density is closer to that of a hyper or insane difficulty. To illustrate, change the AR to 8.5 - 8.8. Notice that the map suddenly becomes a lot easier to read.
Ranking criteria is based around ~180bpm. The diff spread + song allows for this difficulty in this hadr diff.
Take a look at ranked Hard difficulties of similar songs.
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/793619
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1154745
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1257167

As such, I'm not able to completely mod this diff as I'm not sure whether to mod this as a hard difficulty or as insane difficulty.
If u want to mod it, jus look at is as something close to insane but still hard, if ur comparing it to ur typical hard

NeonLights wrote:
SICK, IS THIS A FREE NM?
yes it is

[KKip's Hard]
00:29:344 (2,3) - I would suggest that you stack these to stay consistent with the spacing that you established earlier. Although in a hard time-distance equality doesn't matter *as* much, I think it would benefit if you just stacked those. this is to show emphasis, will change if there are mor complaints here aftr this mod
00:34:493 (7,1) - just a thought, but you use overlapping to indicate that the time gap is 1/4, maybe try avoiding an overlap here since the gap is 1/2 added repeat
00:35:561 (2,3) - same thing as 00:29:344 same as 29:344
00:45:082 (4,5) - This stack may pose a readability problem here since you consistently use stacks to represent a 1/4 gap between notes. It would be ok if you didn't switch between or introduced the concept early on, but you didn't. I never map a double like this, a doubl always has a slider in this diff, changes still might happen
00:52:854 (5,6) - I would be careful with this time gap and the 1/6 slider. It's not necessarily bad, but the rhythm is irregular and players may mistime it often slider leniency + od should mak it fine, I might chang if I get mor complaints
00:51:688 (5,1) - Just being nitpicky but maybe clean up this overlap here done
00:58:100 (3,4,1,2) - Again, this overlap poses a readability problem. Recommend moving it out from under the slider. 3/4 on this bpm shud gtive the player enuff time to respond, ill still think about this tho
01:12:284 (1) - I don't really see what you are mapping this spinner to. I would recommend moving the start of it further along the timeline to match the start of the intensifying drums. mapped to the 2nd phrase of that part
01:30:548 (5,6) - see 00:45:082 see 45
01:36:766 (5,6) - ^ ^
01:41:429 (3,1) - ^ (arguably this one is large enough where it might not be a problem but still good to take a look at it) map based of density. as u mentiond, it is also cus its a large timeline gap
01:50:270 (3,4) - for better readability I would do something like this: https://i.imgur.com/gfPgaOP.png changed, might change back as I don't see a differenc myself but yea

gary00737

593 posts

Joined February 2015

gary00737 2017-09-13T13:36:38+00:00

M4M

Normal

00:06:805 - here why no note >< but 00:13:022 (1) - why here have a note , i think here is same rhythm

offscreen : 00:39:642 (1) - 00:41:973 (2) - 01:37:154 (1) -

Shani's Advanced

00:38:087 (1,3) - I think it can make better

01:34:046 (1) - i think it not overlap 01:33:851 (9) - will be better !

KKip's Hard

00:22:154 (6,1) - i think no jump will be better
00:22:543 (1,2) - why overlap

it look like 1/4
00:53:631 (1) - i think try this will be better , how do you think @@? https://i.imgur.com/fanwL2J.png
01:46:870 (2) - nc
01:47:452 (2) - nc too

um ,, i think this hard diff not a hard >_>" look like insane

Celektus' Hyper

01:05:872 (2,3,4) - try this -> https://i.imgur.com/cz093fG.png

sorry my mod not good, good luck for rank !!!! shoot a star

Hectic

511 posts

Joined August 2015

Hectic 2017-09-14T12:35:53+00:00

hi, nm from q

normal:

00:11:662 (3) - fix blanket
00:16:326 (1,2) - this rhythm is perfect for this section, but then you go for different object variations that don't represent this music that well. maybe you went for variety but i think you better stick to something that represnts music better
00:25:652 (1,2,3) - i'd make 2 circles instead of (1) or a slider instead of (2) and (3), cause sounds are the same, same objects would represent that
00:39:642 (1) - 01:37:154 (1) - offscreen
00:56:740 - 01:02:958 - make it clickable, it would feel much better cause its a beginning of new measure
01:21:999 (2,3,4) - 01:34:434 (2,3,4) - align?

advanced:

00:05:445 (5,1) - didn't get what nc on (1) currently represents, perhaps swap them
00:11:274 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - this feels very disorginized except for (5) and (8) being parallel
00:27:206 (5) - 01:44:927 (5) - nc?
00:27:206 (5,2) - 00:38:087 (1,3) - 01:36:377 (7,8,1) - these thing could look better
01:31:714 (2,3) - 01:35:211 (4,5) - 01:35:988 (6,7) - 01:38:126 (3,4) - 01:40:069 (8,1) - 01:41:235 (3,4) - 01:42:790 (3,4) - fix blanket
01:46:481 (1) - i got the idea, but i think it could be less random and more appealing to eyes
01:47:258 (2,3) - you went for some kind of blanket with those, something went wrong here

hard:

00:51:688 (5,1) - 01:03:735 (3,1) - 01:38:709 (1,2) - make them a bit further apart
i think this difficulty is way too difficult to read for this skill because of stacks, complicated rhythms, sliders with unpredictable amount of reverses and ds organization. not that kind of diff where you can challenge player with such stuff. perhaps make it more straight forward

hope i helped somehow! good luck

Shanipika

114 posts

Joined April 2015

Shanipika 2017-09-14T14:48:42+00:00

h4d0uk3n1 wrote:
hi, nm from q

advanced:
00:05:445 (5,1) - didn't get what nc on (1) currently represents, perhaps swap them I went with Something that looked less silly to me but whatever lets just use the ''more logical'' nc here
00:11:274 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - this feels very disorginized except for (5) and (8) being parallel I changed this but since no real suggestion I don't really think I made it much more coherent to you, still think its better so meh now its fine and has more reasoning I guess
00:27:206 (5) - 01:44:927 (5) - nc? No? I dont want those slider to be new combo by themself I think its a bit dumb lol
00:27:206 (5,2) - 00:38:087 (1,3) - 01:36:377 (7,8,1) - these thing could look better Didnt change first one not necessary, kinda fixed both other one to have better visual spacing between sliders
01:31:714 (2,3) - 01:35:211 (4,5) - 01:35:988 (6,7) - 01:38:126 (3,4) - 01:40:069 (8,1) - 01:41:235 (3,4) - 01:42:790 (3,4) - fix blanket Emmm they weren't all wrong but I fixed some of those that were a pixel off x)
01:46:481 (1) - i got the idea, but i think it could be less random and more appealing to eyes Those arent random?
01:47:258 (2,3) - you went for some kind of blanket with those, something went wrong here ??? I think they work I could change them to Something a little different but it would look weirder imo I prefer those close overlapping blanket although might wanna fix them if they arent ok I guess

hope i helped somehow! good luck

for gary00737 answer emmm

00:38:087 (1,3) - I think it can make better Already fixed

01:34:046 (1) - i think it not overlap 01:33:851 (9) - will be better ! Dont think it need to be changed here

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-jordan-

692 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

-jordan- 2017-09-14T15:40:54+00:00

h4d0uk3n1 wrote:
hi, nm from q

normal:
00:11:662 (3) - fix blanket ok
00:16:326 (1,2) - this rhythm is perfect for this section, but then you go for different object variations that don't represent this music that well. maybe you went for variety but i think you better stick to something that represnts music better made it more consistent
00:25:652 (1,2,3) - i'd make 2 circles instead of (1) or a slider instead of (2) and (3), cause sounds are the same, same objects would represent that i dont think this is an issue and 00:26:430 (2,3,1) - acts as a good build up
00:39:642 (1) - 01:37:154 (1) - offscreen fixed
00:56:740 - 01:02:958 - make it clickable, it would feel much better cause its a beginning of new measure not really i think the reverse is better here
01:21:999 (2,3,4) - 01:34:434 (2,3,4) - align? i prefer this positioning than having it parallel, it gives it more visual variety

hope i helped somehow! good luck Thanks

Peter

786 posts

Joined June 2016

Peter 2017-09-14T17:38:06+00:00

Hi there from my queue

Normal

00:17:880 (3) - make this more sharp so will look better http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9087945
00:27:206 (1) - move it like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9087956 after that move these 00:28:178 (2,1,2,3) to http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9087964
00:59:849 (1) - make it more sharp because blanket isnt visible enought

Advanced

00:21:377 (2) - Would do that http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9088022
00:31:481 (3,4,1) - hmm you should do that https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9088035
00:39:642 (1) - change to that http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9088038
01:48:035 (3,4) - maybe to something like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9088046

Hard

00:34:978 (1) - this slider looks weird for me change to this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9088060
00:38:087 (1,2,3) - to this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9088066

Hyper

00:10:108 (1,2,3) - Umm doesnt seems to be good idea
01:00:237 (1) - place this one a little bit higher

-jordan-

692 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

-jordan- 2017-09-15T19:45:50+00:00

PeterEU wrote:
Hi there from my queue hi

Normal

00:17:880 (3) - make this more sharp so will look better http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9087945 i like the symmetry with the one before it and don't see a reason to change
00:27:206 (1) - move it like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9087956 after that move these 00:28:178 (2,1,2,3) to http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9087964 whats wrong with how it is now?
00:59:849 (1) - make it more sharp because blanket isnt visible enought ok

CPLs

351 posts

Joined April 2012

CPLs 2017-09-16T07:58:07+00:00

can I even mod this
(from m4m)

w.e

[k insane]
during the wubwub part you can use some slow/fast slider to emphasize like in hardest diff (pretty sure it's allowed on insanes)

00:02:142 (1) extend by 1/8, if you slow the playback rate there's actually a sound
01:24:331 (1,2) lower this a bit for better reading

[hardest diff]
- 00:27:401 (1,2,3) I don't think the red color is emphasizing anything
that only makes this hard to see the rest on default skin, change the color or just use the same color throughout the map, (keep the red only on fast slider).
another suggestion is just make the spacing further on this 00:27:401 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) , same with 01:45:121 (1,2,3)

-no wobbly slider on this part 00:33:424 (2) ? the prev and next pattern are like this, and there's wub too

-I don't recommend stacking this 00:42:362 (3) with 2 ,ctrl+g with next 1 (switch hitsound too)?

- 00:46:054 (1) I understand this is a hardest diff but this flow doesn't feel good, ctrl+g 1?

[hyper]

00:02:336 (1) this whistle doesn't fit tbh, just use soft sounds

change this 00:21:766 (2) to be like 00:20:114 (3,4,5) , starting on hte blue tick before (more consistent patterns, don't change it when the music doesn't even change)

nitpicking here, this slider 01:57:945 (3) doesn't sound matching, how about spinner?

ok bye

edit : le map (https://osu.ppy.sh/s/664568)

-jordan-

692 posts

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Topic Starter

-jordan- 2017-09-16T21:34:17+00:00

CPLs wrote:
can I even mod this
(from m4m)

[hardest diff]
- 00:27:401 (1,2,3) I don't think the red color is emphasizing anything
that only makes this hard to see the rest on default skin, change the color or just use the same color throughout the map, (keep the red only on fast slider).
another suggestion is just make the spacing further on this 00:27:401 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) , same with 01:45:121 (1,2,3) the spacing is how it is now so a player can either aim at the middle of the pattern, or follow it. i dont think the colours are an issue as this is a unique part of the map

-no wobbly slider on this part 00:33:424 (2) ? the prev and next pattern are like this, and there's wub too it's not a sustained wub like the others, and i always handle the sound like this

-I don't recommend stacking this 00:42:362 (3) with 2 ,ctrl+g with next 1 (switch hitsound too)? introduced at 00:04:668 (1,2,3,1) - , whats wrong with stacks

- 00:46:054 (1) I understand this is a hardest diff but this flow doesn't feel good, ctrl+g 1? and, whats wrong with how it is

ok bye

edit : le map (https://osu.ppy.sh/s/664568)

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