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Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT

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Nevo
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Joined November 2015
Nevo
I FINALLY REMAPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[Metadata]
Title:Re:TrymenT
TitleUnicode:Re:TrymenT
Artist:Hotaru Murasaki
ArtistUnicode:紫咲ほたる
Creator:Shiratoi
Version:Nevo's Extra
Source:Re:LieF〜親愛なるあなたへ〜
Tags:eroge visual novel relief 甘利紗陽 saya amari Shin'ainaru Anata e レリーフ DeaR YoU retryment miu yuu game op rask opening nevo yamicchi lince cosmico foxygrandpa ultima fox lilyanna time capsule
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Yamicchi
1,175 posts
Joined May 2015
Yamicchi

a q p w wrote:

Y's I
  1. 00:01:934 (1,2,3) - personally, I do not agree with having spacing so differently here because the sounds are basically all the same intensity. Nothing is decreasing, as hinted by the decrease in spacing.. it's the pitch
  2. 00:13:618 (2) - NC perhaps k
  3. 00:30:986 (4,1,2) - movement here not very comfortable.. could do something like this to alleviate this fixed
  4. 01:07:618 (1,2,3) - placing could be a bit neater? yaaaa my bad, fixed
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Shira
1,094 posts
Joined January 2015
Topic Starter
Shira
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Sotarks
3,524 posts
Joined May 2014
Sotarks
[Resonance]
Looks like the quality of the BG is pretty bad...
00:55:934 (7) - you could space this a bit more for the emphasis of this sound
01:09:355 (2) - spacing pretty low here for 1/2 u can easily missread to 3/4
01:12:355 (1,2,3,4) - stream here feels out of place how about just a slider who ends on blue tic, fits well
really good diff gj there

[Nevo's Extra]
00:15:828 - can you maybe map this snare ?
00:44:249 (3) - nc?
00:57:670 (2) - kinda forced to have a circle here don't you think?
01:00:197 (2) - ^ same applies here
01:07:934 (2,5,2,6) - claps
01:12:039 (5) - clap on head
nice diff here! really clean just some missing hitsounds that can be double checked before rank

[Lince's Extra]
00:47:249 (7) - you can probably space this a little bit more for the build up here
prob my favorite diff of this set, nice man!

[Foxy Fox's Insane]
00:52:934 (2,5) - really really missreading pattern here just because of the rhythm, rather make both the same or space them not the same to avoid the missread.

[Yamicchi's Insane]
01:19:302 (5,6) - those can be nc
really good diff

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nice set guys, just rank this now it's really good!
MaridiuS
879 posts
Joined June 2014
MaridiuS
Hey from my queue (lol)

[Resonance]
  1. For a top diff you could get the od to around 8.3.
  2. 00:15:670 (5) - This piano hit is very loud in the song and characteristic. I'd say it would need more spacing to emphasize that better, like 3.1x. Also NCing it sounds like a good idea too.
  3. 00:30:986 (1) - Even though it is a downbeat, it still feels like it is a part of previous comboing, so remove NC, that way the pianos also get 1-2s they need. 00:40:934 (1,2) - similar situation and suggestion here.
  4. 00:35:249 (3) - You should remove this and make the previous circle a slider. There is no vocal at this circle, and compared to 00:32:565 (1,2,3,4) - it doesn't have the menacing bass and strong piano hits. 00:34:776 (1,2,3,4,5) - also in this pattern (5) should be emphasized the most, since it is the most prominent vocal imo, might need to redo the pattern wholly.
  5. 00:43:460 (1,2,3,4,5) - idk but a star pattern should look better here and play better. It suits the structure since you usually don't give inconsistent visual spacing between objects
  6. 00:44:565 (1,1,2) - fix blankets.
  7. 00:49:302 (4,6,7) - Now that I look a little bit closely this should be aligned, and the circle in the middle should be at equal distance from both circles. 00:49:144 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - Overall this pattern also doesn't look appealing to me, and I'd suggest going a star pattern or some back and forth idk. Also consider increasing the spacing on that pattern since other than drums it has impactful violin on it.
  8. 00:53:565 (5,6,1) - some weird stuff going on with the spacing. 0.4x should be like 00:54:670 (5,6,7) .
  9. 00:59:091 (3) - This feels overemphasized compared to 01:01:618 (3). It has weird movement to it, big spacing and uncomfy movement after the hit. I suggest placing it here and readjust subsequent patterns https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9395836 good luck with readjusting though ;d.
  10. 01:00:986 (6,7,1,2) - Rearrange to be perfectly aligned and spaced from each other.
  11. 01:15:671 (4) - Suggest into making this a slider since it has a strong orchestral sound on it (is it piano, trumpet idk), and more noticeable than the rest.
    Should also be given bigger spacing to emphasize that.
[Nevo's Extra]
  1. 00:09:986 (2) - You should add a curve also before the red anchor, should look much better.
  2. 00:14:881 (2,3) - Giving such low spacing for a farily prominent piano hit doesn't seem right. I'd prefer if you spacee it, to space it plenty. 00:15:670 (3) - same for this, be sure to have it more spaced than new adjustment on previous slider I suggested.
  3. 00:18:828 (7) - This is far more prominent than 00:18:986 (8) - and I highly advise it to make it a slider and not (8).
  4. 00:19:934 (3,2,3,4) - They don't seem perfectly triangulated. When a structure is based on perfect patterns it get's apparent when something is off even by a tiny bit.
  5. 00:32:407 (2) - It doesn't make sense for this to have bigger spacing than anything else, it feels like an empty note in the song, and should definitely have lower spacing than the piano hits that recent happened 00:31:302 (1,3,5) - .
  6. 00:39:828 (1,4) - iffy overlap.
  7. 00:41:249 (1) - delete NC and 00:41:407 (2) - NC this. I mean piano 1/2's should be started with a NC not with random completely unimportant beat.
  8. 00:45:986 (2) - I'd say that this particular note is much more impactful than the others in the following jump pattern. Meaning I advise you to give it bigger spacing than the jump pattern. Primarily this should be increased, and then the others decreased as you wish.
  9. 00:55:302 - The snares start from here. This is an empty note in the song 00:55:144 (2) and should be mapped as a slider end from (1).
  10. 00:57:512 (1) - The vocals together with cymbal are way too impactful here to be anything other than a slider imo. 00:57:670 (2) - other than that, it doesn't make sense for a random kick to have same spacing as a strong vocal here 00:57:828 (3) -
  11. 00:58:776 (8) - As a form of differentiation it would be a good idea to make this into two circles, that way the sliders will be reserved for the piano, meaning the player will with ease feel the change in the song. The way it is now, you made a 120 degrees slider pattern copy pasted for 3 notes, 2 of which are piano and 1 is vocal which are completely different layers, and it doesn't suit a map to follow different layers in same way.
  12. 01:00:039 (1) - Same as I mentioned on start of section. 01:00:670 (4) - if you insist on having something to click, this would be the spot where the vocals are not so impactful on one note but kicks still exist on offbeat.
  13. 01:05:091 (1,2,3) - I don't suggest having this angle so obtuse, especially considering that the following notes 01:05:723 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - are sharp and have repeated rhythm.
  14. 01:10:776 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - Firstly 01:11:249 (6) - this shouldn't really be clickable since it doesn't have either vocals or drums on it (maybe some barely audible hithat). Next, 01:11:407 (1) - this isn't emphasized at all. And last but not least, the pattern is not perfectly triangulated, please rehexagrid it, it doesn't look good. Also 01:11:565 (2,5) - a miserable failed blanket here lol
  15. 01:13:934 (1) - This should be the most emphasized with biggest spacing it is the strongest beat in the song with the cymbal vocal intensity increasment and stuff. Ideal placement would be stacked with 01:12:986 (3) - and of course have the pattern readjusted.
[Lince's Extra]
  1. 00:15:670 (4) - Really wish this was emphasized in some way.
  2. 00:16:144 (1,2,3) - With the violin hits happening in 1/2 intervals, I suggest making some of these sliders into 2 circles to better follow them.
  3. 00:20:881 (1,2,3,1) - ugh this doesn't look good. You can manually make it stacked by enabling 0.1DS, place the circle and then place with the snap enabled, as if making a stream, trying not to stack but to place next to it.
  4. 00:35:407 (3,4) - You shouldn't be afraid to make some red tick sliders to better follow the vocals. Ending on vocals which you seem to primarily follow doesn't seem right.
  5. 00:41:407 (2) - Make it into 2 circles please, the piano strongly calls for it. With new sounds appearing it should be mapped differently, the slider is nothing special and is completely like the rest filler ones in the section before.
  6. 00:43:776 (2) - The sliderend is fairly stronger than a random hithat 00:44:091 (3) - . So making a slider on a white is the better choice here. Then you can do a 2stack. 00:46:302 (2) - same here except now it also has a violin on its sliderend.
  7. 00:55:302 - The snares start from here. This is an empty note in the song 00:55:144 (2) and should be mapped as a slider end from (1).
  8. 00:58:302 (4) - I'm sorry but it's sliderend sounds way too important and impactful for it to be mapped like that. It is a strong vocal together with a drum hit and should without doubt in my eyes be mapped actively (aka being clickable). 01:00:039 (1) - same for this. 01:00:828 (3) - and also kinda for this.
  9. 01:12:039 (4,5) - It'd be sweet if this were mapped like 01:11:407 (1,2,3) - , or you could just make circles in the first pattern into slider which is boring.
  10. 01:15:670 (1) - I strongly advise emphasizing this with spacing, way too loud and noticeable to be given generic spacing like random vocals. When there's a note this big it should be noticeable different in the map compared to other filler stuff.
  11. 01:17:723 - You could use some volume decreasment in this section, seems to loud to me.
[Foxy fox's Insane]
  1. 00:01:934 (1,3) - You know what would be veryyyy sweet? If you introduced the SV reducement on 1/1 notes on this kind of patterns done like 00:57:512 (1,2,3) - but without the overlap. It could prepare the players really well to what will be waiting for them. Of course will take a little bit of your effort to remap if you agree. I mean it feels late when the gimmick gets introduced more than halfway of the song.
  2. 00:17:091 (1,3) - Making them stack seems really confusing, you should have them partially overlap like 00:17:565 (3,5) - , it would look better, play better and suit the section too.
  3. 00:49:302 (4) - Might want a NC here.
  4. 00:50:881 (4) - Uhm it seems that there is a really deep drum on this sliderend, and I highly suggest making it clickable, preferably a 1/2 slider.
  5. 00:52:301 (4) - Nothing important on this note, it shouldn't be mapped actively, either empty or sliderend.
  6. 00:59:091 (2,3,4) - I admit that 120 degree sliders look good, but (4) is a different layer, two vocal hits, and shouldn't be grouped with the other two sliders which follow piano. Different layers should be mapped differently. 01:01:618 (2,3,4) - same here
  7. 01:11:249 - Seems completely out of place and consistent with nothing for this to be empty. Strongly advise in making the previous circle a slider or giving a note here.
  8. 01:12:512 - Here it is okay because the intensity of the vocals has dropped and the background noise. What's more (1) is now given much bigger spacing.
  9. 01:14:565 (3) - Should be made into two circles to be consistent jumps like 01:13:302 (1,2,1,2) -
  10. 01:15:197 (3) - NC here, not here 01:15:039 (1) - .
  11. 01:15:670 (5) - seems a bit offscreen, moving it up is a good idea since it touches the timing bar.
[Yamicchi's Insane]
  1. 00:49:302 (1,2,3,4,1) - The difference of the sounds in the song is not that vast for it to have such variable spacing. Jumps would be much prefered here imo. 00:48:986 (6,1,2) - also this angle is a bit uncomfy.
  2. 00:58:618 (1) - In the section you tend to use very simple sliders for 1/1 vocals, so this one really sticks out seemingly without reason so I suggest you change it into a simple shape like other 1/1's.
  3. 01:06:986 (1,2,3) - making these as jumps feels healthy, it's the end of a dope pattern, and jumps are sure to give more impact to it rather than stacked triple note. Also there is a change in drums a bit compared to previous stacked ones.
  4. 01:15:670 (4,6) - You tend to go for gimmicky stuff and avoid jumps, so other than this pattern being just that, the notes I linked in the song sound really special especially (4). By hearing them, tapping anymore feels like a chore, since these kind of intense violin/orchestral sounds really call for a slider. What's more i'm a bit against doing full on generic hexagrid jumps, since it doesn't suit the style you've been going for with all kinds of flow, rhythm and pattern connecting. Pretty sure you can bring out something more impressive here, preferably some form of jumps.
[Hard]
  1. 00:12:039 (1,2) - Like the stack here 00:15:670 (4,1) - it'd be nice for this to be stacked too. Idk it's on the same section.
  2. 00:16:460 - This sounds too important to be a slider end, and overall the reverse sliders don't feel on point. 1/2 sliders could be better used here without reverse on more important beats; https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9403050 simple rhythm and now all the stronger piano hits are mapped actively.
  3. 00:54:907 - No need to mute this, there is indeed a 1/4 there.
  4. 00:57:512 (1,2,3) - By starting a section like this, player would immediately assume the structure that's waiting for the kiai. However you only use this concept once and not here 01:00:039 (1,2,3) - , so I suggest making the first pattern generic aswell for consistency. 00:57:986 (2,3) - also, isn't this jump too big?
  5. 01:18:670 (3,4) - Very often do you use 1/2 sliders where the sliderhead is as strong as the slider tail in more intense sections. Here the red tick is fairly weaker than the white one, yet it is made in 2 circles. I don't think that it is a proper scaling, especially considering how peaceful this section is. 1/2 slider is enough to contrast 1/1 ones in peaceful sections of a Hard difficulty. 01:21:197 (3,4) - same for this.
  6. 01:23:723 (5,1) - Red tick doesn't feel right when your main focus seemed to be piano, like here 01:21:355 (4,1) - where you choose piano over vocals and 01:18:828 (4,1) - .
[Liliyanna's Normal]
  1. Actually no complaints here, never knew I would take a liking on a normal difficulty, well done.
[Easy]
  1. Basically ask someone to nitpick blankets and parallel objects, rarely do I see a perfect blanket, or just take a look in depth by yourself.
Yeah just a few more mods and I'll come back on my own accord.
Last edited by MaridiuS , edited 4 times in total.
Nevo
Global Moderator
1,184 posts
Joined November 2015
Nevo

MaridiuS wrote:

Hey from my queue (lol)


[Nevo's Extra]
  1. 00:09:986 (2) - You should add a curve also before the red anchor, should look much better.
  2. 00:14:881 (2,3) - Giving such low spacing for a farily prominent piano hit doesn't seem right. I'd prefer if you spacee it, to space it plenty. 00:15:670 (3) - same for this, be sure to have it more spaced than new adjustment on previous slider I suggested.
  3. 00:18:828 (7) - This is far more prominent than 00:18:986 (8) - and I highly advise it to make it a slider and not (8).
  4. 00:19:934 (3,2,3,4) - They don't seem perfectly triangulated. When a structure is based on perfect patterns it get's apparent when something is off even by a tiny bit.
  5. 00:32:407 (2) - It doesn't make sense for this to have bigger spacing than anything else, it feels like an empty note in the song, and should definitely have lower spacing than the piano hits that recent happened 00:31:302 (1,3,5) - .
  6. 00:39:828 (1,4) - iffy overlap.
  7. 00:41:249 (1) - delete NC and 00:41:407 (2) - NC this. I mean piano 1/2's should be started with a NC not with random completely unimportant beat.
  8. 00:45:986 (2) - I'd say that this particular note is much more impactful than the others in the following jump pattern. Meaning I advise you to give it bigger spacing than the jump pattern. Primarily this should be increased, and then the others decreased as you wish.
  9. 00:55:302 - The snares start from here. This is an empty note in the song 00:55:144 (2) and should be mapped as a slider end from (1).
  10. 00:57:512 (1) - The vocals together with cymbal are way too impactful here to be anything other than a slider imo. 00:57:670 (2) - other than that, it doesn't make sense for a random kick to have same spacing as a strong vocal here 00:57:828 (3) -
  11. 00:58:776 (8) - As a form of differentiation it would be a good idea to make this into two circles, that way the sliders will be reserved for the piano, meaning the player will with ease feel the change in the song. The way it is now, you made a 120 degrees slider pattern copy pasted for 3 notes, 2 of which are piano and 1 is vocal which are completely different layers, and it doesn't suit a map to follow different layers in same way.
  12. 01:00:039 (1) - Same as I mentioned on start of section. 01:00:670 (4) - if you insist on having something to click, this would be the spot where the vocals are not so impactful on one note but kicks still exist on offbeat.
  13. 01:05:091 (1,2,3) - I don't suggest having this angle so obtuse, especially considering that the following notes 01:05:723 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - are sharp and have repeated rhythm.
  14. 01:10:776 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - Firstly 01:11:249 (6) - this shouldn't really be clickable since it doesn't have either vocals or drums on it (maybe some barely audible hithat). Next, 01:11:407 (1) - this isn't emphasized at all. And last but not least, the pattern is not perfectly triangulated, please rehexagrid it, it doesn't look good. Also 01:11:565 (2,5) - a miserable failed blanket here lol
  15. 01:13:934 (1) - This should be the most emphasized with biggest spacing it is the strongest beat in the song with the cymbal vocal intensity increasment and stuff. Ideal placement would be stacked with 01:12:986 (3) - and of course have the pattern readjusted.
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applied all and sotarks

i broke the hstounds pls fix k thx shira :3
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Shira
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Shira
will reply in one go after finish mod :)
Yamicchi
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Joined May 2015
Yamicchi

MaridiuS wrote:

[Yamicchi's Insane]
  1. 00:49:302 (1,2,3,4,1) - The difference of the sounds in the song is not that vast for it to have such variable spacing. Jumps would be much prefered here imo. 00:48:986 (6,1,2) - also this angle is a bit uncomfy. not gonna make jump here as the rhythm is not intense enough, but adjusted a bit
  2. 00:58:618 (1) - In the section you tend to use very simple sliders for 1/1 vocals, so this one really sticks out seemingly without reason so I suggest you change it into a simple shape like other 1/1's. let's see if others complaint about it too, because imo it flows well so removing it is not what I want to do
  3. 01:06:986 (1,2,3) - making these as jumps feels healthy, it's the end of a dope pattern, and jumps are sure to give more impact to it rather than stacked triple note. Also there is a change in drums a bit compared to previous stacked ones. k
  4. 01:15:670 (4,6) - You tend to go for gimmicky stuff and avoid jumps, so other than this pattern being just that, the notes I linked in the song sound really special especially (4). By hearing them, tapping anymore feels like a chore, since these kind of intense violin/orchestral sounds really call for a slider. What's more i'm a bit against doing full on generic hexagrid jumps, since it doesn't suit the style you've been going for with all kinds of flow, rhythm and pattern connecting. Pretty sure you can bring out something more impressive here, preferably some form of jumps. I didn't follow the violin there.
    The jumps are just an intensier pattern of 01:13:934 (1,2,3,4) - which were used to follow the drums (as you can usually see these kind of patterns in most of the TV size maps) also that's like the most intense part of the map so why can't I have a polygon jumps? :3
Thanks for the mod
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Shira
1,094 posts
Joined January 2015
Topic Starter
Shira

Sotarks wrote:

[Resonance]
Looks like the quality of the BG is pretty bad... i think its fine :/
00:55:934 (7) - you could space this a bit more for the emphasis of this sound dont think i want to ruin the triangles
01:09:355 (2) - spacing pretty low here for 1/2 u can easily missread to 3/4
01:12:355 (1,2,3,4) - stream here feels out of place how about just a slider who ends on blue tic, fits well i kind ofwant to keep my consistency with the triplets in the kiai and have map it without kick sliders
really good diff gj there

[]
nice set guys, just rank this now it's really good!
ty!!

MaridiuS wrote:

Hey from my queue (lol)

[Resonance]
  1. For a top diff you could get the od to around 8.3.
  2. 00:15:670 (5) - This piano hit is very loud in the song and characteristic. I'd say it would need more spacing to emphasize that better, like 3.1x. Also NCing it sounds like a good idea too.
  3. 00:30:986 (1) - Even though it is a downbeat, it still feels like it is a part of previous comboing, so remove NC, that way the pianos also get 1-2s they need. 00:40:934 (1,2) - similar situation and suggestion here.
  4. 00:35:249 (3) - You should remove this and make the previous circle a slider. There is no vocal at this circle, and compared to 00:32:565 (1,2,3,4) - it doesn't have the menacing bass and strong piano hits. 00:34:776 (1,2,3,4,5) - also in this pattern (5) should be emphasized the most, since it is the most prominent vocal imo, might need to redo the pattern wholly. did something
  5. 00:43:460 (1,2,3,4,5) - idk but a star pattern should look better here and play better. It suits the structure since you usually don't give inconsistent visual spacing between objects
  6. 00:44:565 (1,1,2) - fix blankets.
  7. 00:49:302 (4,6,7) - Now that I look a little bit closely this should be aligned, and the circle in the middle should be at equal distance from both circles. 00:49:144 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - Overall this pattern also doesn't look appealing to me, and I'd suggest going a star pattern or some back and forth idk. Also consider increasing the spacing on that pattern since other than drums it has impactful violin on it. maybe better now
  8. 00:53:565 (5,6,1) - some weird stuff going on with the spacing. 0.4x should be like 00:54:670 (5,6,7) .
  9. 00:59:091 (3) - This feels overemphasized compared to 01:01:618 (3). It has weird movement to it, big spacing and uncomfy movement after the hit. I suggest placing it here and readjust subsequent patterns https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9395836 good luck with readjusting though ;d. moved 00:58:934 (2) - instead to lower the spacing
  10. 01:00:986 (6,7,1,2) - Rearrange to be perfectly aligned and spaced from each other.
  11. 01:15:671 (4) - Suggest into making this a slider since it has a strong orchestral sound on it (is it piano, trumpet idk), and more noticeable than the rest.
    Should also be given bigger spacing to emphasize that.
[Hard]
  1. 00:12:039 (1,2) - Like the stack here 00:15:670 (4,1) - it'd be nice for this to be stacked too. Idk it's on the same section. nah i think its fine since its different sounds
  2. 00:16:460 - This sounds too important to be a slider end, and overall the reverse sliders don't feel on point. 1/2 sliders could be better used here without reverse on more important beats; https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9403050 simple rhythm and now all the stronger piano hits are mapped actively. did something again
  3. 00:54:907 - No need to mute this, there is indeed a 1/4 there.
  4. 00:57:512 (1,2,3) - By starting a section like this, player would immediately assume the structure that's waiting for the kiai. However you only use this concept once and not here 01:00:039 (1,2,3) - , so I suggest making the first pattern generic aswell for consistency. 00:57:986 (2,3) - also, isn't this jump too big? i kinda want to start the kiai out with a bang especially since theres a finish on the slider, but lowered the spacing
  5. 01:18:670 (3,4) - Very often do you use 1/2 sliders where the sliderhead is as strong as the slider tail in more intense sections. Here the red tick is fairly weaker than the white one, yet it is made in 2 circles. I don't think that it is a proper scaling, especially considering how peaceful this section is. 1/2 slider is enough to contrast 1/1 ones in peaceful sections of a Hard difficulty. 01:21:197 (3,4) - same for this.
  6. 01:23:723 (5,1) - Red tick doesn't feel right when your main focus seemed to be piano, like here 01:21:355 (4,1) - where you choose piano over vocals and 01:18:828 (4,1) - .
[Easy]
  1. Basically ask someone to nitpick blankets and parallel objects, rarely do I see a perfect blanket, or just take a look in depth by yourself. its not really noticeable + i dont think i want to mess up DS now ;;w
Yeah just a few more mods and I'll come back on my own accord.
ahh really nice mod tyy!! fixed basically everything lmao

Lince Cosmico][quote="MaridiuS wrote:

Hey from my queue (lol) o/

[Lince's Extra]
  1. 00:15:670 (4) - Really wish this was emphasized in some way. I wanted to change the rhythm there a bit so i could give a better impact to the next pattern (00:15:986 (6,7,1,2) - )
  2. 00:16:144 (1,2,3) - With the violin hits happening in 1/2 intervals, I suggest making some of these sliders into 2 circles to better follow them. hm, the sliders feels already well fitting for me (also more neat)
  3. 00:20:881 (1,2,3,1) - ugh this doesn't look good. You can manually make it stacked by enabling 0.1DS, place the circle and then place with the snap enabled, as if making a stream, trying not to stack but to place next to it. i get what you say, i dont know why but i had stack in editor disabled lol, fixed
  4. 00:35:407 (3,4) - You shouldn't be afraid to make some red tick sliders to better follow the vocals. Ending on vocals which you seem to primarily follow doesn't seem right. ok i tried
  5. 00:41:407 (2) - Make it into 2 circles please, the piano strongly calls for it. With new sounds appearing it should be mapped differently, the slider is nothing special and is completely like the rest filler ones in the section before. My intention was to introduce the section with less intensity with a slider but i guess you're right, it's just inconsistent. Fixed
  6. 00:43:776 (2) - The sliderend is fairly stronger than a random hithat 00:44:091 (3) - . So making a slider on a white is the better choice here. Then you can do a 2stack. 00:46:302 (2) - same here except now it also has a violin on its sliderend. i did something a bit different, still used 2 circles so fixed
  7. 00:55:302 - The snares start from here. This is an empty note in the song 00:55:144 (2) and should be mapped as a slider end from (1). k added slider and fixed
  8. 00:58:302 (4) - I'm sorry but it's sliderend sounds way too important and impactful for it to be mapped like that. It is a strong vocal together with a drum hit and should without doubt in my eyes be mapped actively (aka being clickable). 01:00:039 (1) - same for this. 01:00:828 (3) - and also kinda for this. i don't really agree with this one, While the vocals are important, im following a different rhythm that i made up, and i thinks that the emphasis is good enough already, if people keeps complaining about this i'll just change
  9. 01:12:039 (4,5) - It'd be sweet if this were mapped like 01:11:407 (1,2,3) - , or you could just make circles in the first pattern into slider which is boring. 01:12:039 - removed the slider and added two circles instead... sweety :v)
  10. 01:15:670 (1) - I strongly advise emphasizing this with spacing, way too loud and noticeable to be given generic spacing like random vocals. When there's a note this big it should be noticeable different in the map compared to other filler stuff. I don't think so at all, i want to keep the blankets clear for now
  11. 01:17:723 - You could use some volume decreasment in this section, seems to loud to me. lowered all by 10%
Anyways will finish I think tomorrow with the mod, but I think it may need just a bit more mods before I decide to bubble and such. Are you the next Naxess?

About Sotarks' mod, I applied it :)
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Xinnoh
Elite Mapper
1,962 posts
Joined April 2014
Xinnoh
I'll just nm since Maridius said he'd return later
i'm gonna fall asleep soon so bear with me if stuff doesn't make sense or looks lazy/informal

General
soft-hitwhistle2 is really annoying in the opening section
00:22:144 (1) - why is there a hitnormal every 2/1 when there is no music to back it up
01:20:565 (2,3,4) - what is the whistle following, there are no distinct sounds that I can piece together to make sense of
hitsounding is really questionable to me on the low intensity sections tbh

Resonance
00:10:776 (1,1) - 01:30:355 (1) - 01:31:618 (1) - slider end silence
00:52:460 (1,2) - Not too sure why there's a 1/1 gap here, considering that the music just became much stronger, the player would expect much faster or technical playing but... there's a small break instead
01:15:197 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is the climax of the song, but the angles and spacing are smaller than the section before it. Either decrease spacing before, increase spacing here, or a bit of both.
01:27:828 (1) - Song starts getting weaker here, would make this the change to 0.7x sv. Might be harder to blanket not sure

nevo
00:40:302 (2,3,4,5) - Which instrument is rhythm following in this section?
00:47:249 (7,1) - Spacing is really underwhelming, violins go down but have a strong crescendo at the end. Would be properly emphasised with either larger spacing or a wider angle
00:49:144 (8,1,2,3,4) - same kinda thing, 1,2 are the stronger sounds and 3,4 are weaker
00:51:512 (1,2,3) - You used rotational symmetry on 1,2 which normally implies they are similar sounds, but 2,3 are the similar sounds.
01:32:881 (1) - This slider art looks like a person dabbing

foxfox
00:01:934 (1) - SV is a bit high, I think it would be better to match the second half after kiai which is similar in tone
00:11:723 (1,1) - lmao
ok general issue is aesthetics are really questionable in many places. I don't think I can really explain it well, things like 00:14:565 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:17:091 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:18:670 (3,4,5,6,7) -
like
00:01:934 (1,3) - 00:06:986 (1,3) - These look nice
00:22:460 (2,4) - 00:24:986 (2,4) - These do not

01:10:460 (2) - 01:11:091 (4) - these could be slightly faster sv to build on the low sv of vocal
01:15:670 (5) - This is too close to offscreen for comfort, can you move it in a bit

lilyanna
00:45:986 (2,3,4,5,1) - This is way too dense for a normal, too many 1/2 sliders. I think replacing 00:45:986 (2) - with a circle solves this well
00:54:355 (4,5) - Rhythm a bit inconsistent, not sure why it's using 1/2 sliders when 00:52:776 (2) - is very similar and also has strong sound on its tail.

Really not too interested in this set regardless of whether Maridius was, sorry~
Nevo
Global Moderator
1,184 posts
Joined November 2015
Nevo
[quote="Sinnoh"]I'll just nm since Maridius said he'd return later

nevo
00:40:302 (2,3,4,5) - Which instrument is rhythm following in this section? i wanna say piano thing
00:47:249 (7,1) - Spacing is really underwhelming, violins go down but have a strong crescendo at the end. Would be properly emphasised with either larger spacing or a wider angle changed
00:49:144 (8,1,2,3,4) - same kinda thing, 1,2 are the stronger sounds and 3,4 are weaker changed
00:51:512 (1,2,3) - You used rotational symmetry on 1,2 which normally implies they are similar sounds, but 2,3 are the similar sounds. changed
01:32:881 (1) - This slider art looks like a person dabbing


prob broke diff again shrug
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Yamicchi
1,175 posts
Joined May 2015
Yamicchi
1 more post because I'm noob at replying to mods
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Artist:Hotaru Murasaki
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Version:Yamicchi's Insane
Source:Re:LieF〜親愛なるあなたへ〜
Tags:eroge visual novel relief 甘利紗陽 saya amari Shin'ainaru Anata e レリーフ DeaR YoU retryment miu yuu game op rask opening nevo yamicchi lince cosmico foxygrandpa ultima fox lilyanna time capsule
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Shira
1,094 posts
Joined January 2015
Topic Starter
Shira

Sinnoh wrote:

I'll just nm since Maridius said he'd return later
i'm gonna fall asleep soon so bear with me if stuff doesn't make sense or looks lazy/informal

General
soft-hitwhistle2 is really annoying in the opening section
00:22:144 (1) - why is there a hitnormal every 2/1 when there is no music to back it up
01:20:565 (2,3,4) - what is the whistle following, there are no distinct sounds that I can piece together to make sense of
hitsounding is really questionable to me on the low intensity sections tbh

will get back to you on that

Resonance
00:10:776 (1,1) - 01:30:355 (1) - 01:31:618 (1) - slider end silence
00:52:460 (1,2) - Not too sure why there's a 1/1 gap here, considering that the music just became much stronger, the player would expect much faster or technical playing but... there's a small break instead yea this is for emphasis. you can clearly tell that the 2 sections are different, so i want to express that by a note. having a 3/4 slider would ruin it imo
01:15:197 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is the climax of the song, but the angles and spacing are smaller than the section before it. Either decrease spacing before, increase spacing here, or a bit of both.
01:27:828 (1) - Song starts getting weaker here, would make this the change to 0.7x sv. Might be harder to blanket not sure you explained yourself ;w;
Chihara Minori
1,239 posts
Joined December 2013
Chihara Minori

Sinnoh wrote:

I'll just nm since Maridius said he'd return later
i'm gonna fall asleep soon so bear with me if stuff doesn't make sense or looks lazy/informal

General
soft-hitwhistle2 is really annoying in the opening section
00:22:144 (1) - why is there a hitnormal every 2/1 when there is no music to back it up miss listen this section
01:20:565 (2,3,4) - what is the whistle following, there are no distinct sounds that I can piece together to make sense of
hitsounding is really questionable to me on the low intensity sections tbh me myself don't really see the hitsound (softset2) section as a problem. Eventhough theres no lineup for notes to be hsed it will better to rearrage the instrumental flow (music) and place hs on where it should be as long it consistent and fit. Evenso if this count as an unranked issue ofc I will fix it, but as long I hsing I never hear one so cmiiw. Actually I could just say "its my style" but what can this trash mapper say tho :)
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Shira
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Shira
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Foxy Grandpa
715 posts
Joined January 2015
Foxy Grandpa

MaridiuS wrote:

Hey from my queue (lol)



[Foxy fox's Insane]
  1. 00:01:934 (1,3) - You know what would be veryyyy sweet? If you introduced the SV reducement on 1/1 notes on this kind of patterns done like 00:57:512 (1,2,3) - but without the overlap. It could prepare the players really well to what will be waiting for them. Of course will take a little bit of your effort to remap if you agree. I mean it feels late when the gimmick gets introduced more than halfway of the song. Aight yea
  2. 00:17:091 (1,3) - Making them stack seems really confusing, you should have them partially overlap like 00:17:565 (3,5) - , it would look better, play better and suit the section too.Cleaned up this section
  3. 00:49:302 (4) - Might want a NC here.Ok
  4. 00:50:881 (4) - Uhm it seems that there is a really deep drum on this sliderend, and I highly suggest making it clickable, preferably a 1/2 slider. Follows vocals
  5. 00:52:301 (4) - Nothing important on this note, it shouldn't be mapped actively, either empty or sliderend. Drums tho
  6. 00:59:091 (2,3,4) - I admit that 120 degree sliders look good, but (4) is a different layer, two vocal hits, and shouldn't be grouped with the other two sliders which follow piano. Different layers should be mapped differently. 01:01:618 (2,3,4) - same here The 120's follow the piano that come up in pairs of 3
  7. 01:11:249 - Seems completely out of place and consistent with nothing for this to be empty. Strongly advise in making the previous circle a slider or giving a note here. Ok
  8. 01:12:512 - Here it is okay because the intensity of the vocals has dropped and the background noise. What's more (1) is now given much bigger spacing.
  9. 01:14:565 (3) - Should be made into two circles to be consistent jumps like 01:13:302 (1,2,1,2) - I don't like having jumps here especially since it leads into a triple,
    it just doesnt feel right tbh.
  10. 01:15:197 (3) - NC here, not here 01:15:039 (1) - Fix
  11. 01:15:670 (5) - seems a bit offscreen, moving it up is a good idea since it touches the timing bar. Moved up xd

Yeah just a few more mods and I'll come back on my own accord.

Sinnoh wrote:

I'll just nm since Maridius said he'd return later
i'm gonna fall asleep soon so bear with me if stuff doesn't make sense or looks lazy/informal


foxfox
00:01:934 (1) - SV is a bit high, I think it would be better to match the second half after kiai which is similar in tone Ehhhhhh its slow enough honestly.
00:11:723 (1,1) - lmao dabbbbbbbbbb
ok general issue is aesthetics are really questionable in many places. I don't think I can really explain it well, things like 00:14:565 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:17:091 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:18:670 (3,4,5,6,7) - I remapped those parts they were ugly
like
00:01:934 (1,3) - 00:06:986 (1,3) - These look nice
00:22:460 (2,4) - 00:24:986 (2,4) - These do not Subjective :dab:

01:10:460 (2) - 01:11:091 (4) - these could be slightly faster sv to build on the low sv of vocal I don't wanna go too crazy on the sv changes and they play fine as is tbh
01:15:670 (5) - This is too close to offscreen for comfort, can you move it in a bit Fixxx

Really not too interested in this set regardless of whether Maridius was, sorry~
Thank u guys!!!


sorry i took like 20 years to reply
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Nevo
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MaridiuS
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MaridiuS
[General]

  1. @timecapsule and everyone else. Last time i modded think it was done with me having hitsounds off lol, so sinnoh adressed it and time capsule said something like "miss listen to the section" meaning that he will remove the 2/1 hitnormals on the peaceful section, checking back I don't see them removed. And I also agree with Sinnoh that they sound misplaced tbh, in like all maps.
  2. I think having drum sampleset claps should fit this section more 00:32:565 - in all maps 00:16:302 (4,6) - if they sound like this. Hm I'll just put on how my hitsound sounds on drum-hitclaps, think that you'll understand. The section is way too peaceful and the snares are toned down strongly, the current snare is just too loud compared to anything else. https://www.dropbox.com/s/nh8a9o5kistff ... p.wav?dl=0
  3. I redownloaded the diff and foxy fox diff is kill, no mp3 lol, also no preview time.
  4. Liliyanna didn't answer sinnoh mod


[Resonance]
  1. 00:52:460 (1) - compared to 00:49:934 (1) - should be a slider in order to emphasize the increasment of intensity and the violin that appears on the red tick.
[lince]
  1. 00:44:091 (4,5,6) - Hm this spacing is big for no apparent reason, https://i.imgur.com/QcqTNil.png making a square should fit much better relating aesthetics and intensity.

  2. Lince wrote:

    00:58:302 (4) - I'm sorry but it's sliderend sounds way too important and impactful for it to be mapped like that. It is a strong vocal together with a drum hit and should without doubt in my eyes be mapped actively (aka being clickable). 01:00:039 (1) - same for this. 01:00:828 (3) - and also kinda for this. i don't really agree with this one, While the vocals are important, im following a different rhythm that i made up, and i thinks that the emphasis is good enough already, if people keeps complaining about this i'll just change
    ~You will have to present some stronger arguments to why the rhythm is viable and not just say "I made it up" so we can more easily come to a compromise further more, modders in the future could better understand and maybe learn something.

  3. Lince wrote:

    01:15:670 (1) - I strongly advise emphasizing this with spacing, way too loud and noticeable to be given generic spacing like random vocals. When there's a note this big it should be noticeable different in the map compared to other filler stuff. I don't think so at all, i want to keep the blankets clear for now
    ~https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/9I71dIa.jpg This also seems like clear blankets except now the strong sound was emphasized ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

[Nevo]
  1. 01:00:039 (1,2,3) - You said that you fixed all, but I said that if you were to make 00:57:512 (1) - a slider, so should it be done in the former link for consistency and for the purpose of emphasizing the downbeat.
Shira
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Topic Starter
Shira

Sinnoh wrote:

lilyanna
00:45:986 (2,3,4,5,1) - This is way too dense for a normal, too many 1/2 sliders. I think replacing 00:45:986 (2) - with a circle solves this well
00:54:355 (4,5) - Rhythm a bit inconsistent, not sure why it's using 1/2 sliders when 00:52:776 (2) - is very similar and also has strong sound on its tail.
both fixed

MaridiuS wrote:

[General]

  1. @timecapsule and everyone else. Last time i modded think it was done with me having hitsounds off lol, so sinnoh adressed it and time capsule said something like "miss listen to the section" meaning that he will remove the 2/1 hitnormals on the peaceful section, checking back I don't see them removed. And I also agree with Sinnoh that they sound misplaced tbh, in like all maps. whoops ill ask him about it
  2. I think having drum sampleset claps should fit this section more 00:32:565 - in all maps 00:16:302 (4,6) - if they sound like this. Hm I'll just put on how my hitsound sounds on drum-hitclaps, think that you'll understand. The section is way too peaceful and the snares are toned down strongly, the current snare is just too loud compared to anything else. https://www.dropbox.com/s/nh8a9o5kistff ... p.wav?dl=0
  3. I redownloaded the diff and foxy fox diff is kill, no mp3 lol, also no preview time. mp3 seems fine to me but fixed preview point
  4. Liliyanna didn't answer sinnoh mod yup
[Resonance]
  1. 00:52:460 (1) - compared to 00:49:934 (1) - should be a slider in order to emphasize the increasment of intensity and the violin that appears on the red tick. idk i really think the pause gives players more emphasis on the next note, it also divides the section up nicely
[Nevo]
  1. 01:00:039 (1,2,3) - You said that you fixed all, but I said that if you were to make 00:57:512 (1) - a slider, so should it be done in the former link for consistency and for the purpose of emphasizing the downbeat.
everything else applied ty!!

Lince Cosmico wrote:

MaridiuS wrote:

[lince]
  1. 00:44:091 (4,5,6) - Hm this spacing is big for no apparent reason, https://i.imgur.com/QcqTNil.png making a square should fit much better relating aesthetics and intensity. ok changed
  2. 00:58:302 (4) - ~You will have to present some stronger arguments to why the rhythm is viable and not just say "I made it up" so we can more easily come to a compromise further more, modders in the future could better understand and maybe learn something. It's just that i don't know how to explain myself,
    but I'm pretty sure that my rhythm choise isn't bad, while it doesn't fits the vocals at all, it emphasize with the kick sound at the background, that is pretty much notorious while playing. Not more than the voice, but since it plays good, and it emphasizes something notorious in-gameplay. I'm keeping this pattern

  3. 01:15:670 (1) - ~https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/9I71dIa.jpg This also seems like clear blankets except now the strong sound was emphasized ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Sorry on this one, but I feel that 01:15:197 (1,2) - is already emphasizing the spacing i want. while 01:15:670 (1,2) - are not doing it, they are still emphasizing enough the feeling I want to give while playing, also, take in mind that the spacing on 01:15:986 (2,3) - is higher because i wanted to give more emphasis to the main sounds as The First (01:15:197 - ) and The Last (01:16:302 - )
Thanks
Foxy Grandpa
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Foxy Grandpa
Alright yea since time capsule is ded I cleaned up the hitsounds in the start and in the end

they should be less annoying and more fitting
MaridiuS
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MaridiuS
00:54:986 - add finish on all diffs here.
00:20:249 - finish on all diffs here

lilyanna, maybe 00:55:065 (1) - snap start on red tick, giving space to new player is always good.

normal-hitclap seems to be unusued so delete that.

zzz
Chihara Minori
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Chihara Minori
@shira feel free to modified the hs as your prefence, get some net issues recently so ye sry late rply
Shira
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Shira

MaridiuS wrote:

00:54:986 - add finish on all diffs here.
00:20:249 - finish on all diffs here

lilyanna, maybe 00:55:065 (1) - snap start on red tick, giving space to new player is always good.

normal-hitclap seems to be unusued so delete that.

zzz
applied all
MaridiuS
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MaridiuS
Eroge was a mistake.
Shira
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MaridiuS wrote:

Eroge was a mistake.
everything was a mistake.
Nevo
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rank ples
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please push
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Easy
  1. 00:42:355 (1,2) - Don't structure objects like this in Easies. Where the head 2 starts behind 1. It's extremely hard for a beginner to pick and read especially since the rhythm is somewhat ambiguous too.
  2. 00:42:355 (1) - concerning the rhythm above, how about this? https://i.imgur.com/dQcwiQk.png
  3. 00:44:881 (1) - ^
  4. 00:56:091 (2) - same as 00:42:355 (1,2) concerning structure
  5. 00:57:197 (3) - Deleting this would create a nice pause/break before the kiai and would in turn add more emphasis to the start of the chorus
  6. 01:15:197 (1) - Rhythm suggestion ~ More emphatic and flows better imho https://i.imgur.com/DbkPi9F.png
  7. 01:25:302 (1) - If you make this into a 2/1 reverse slider it would reflect the vocals a lot more. I had a feeling you want to portray the vocals with the way you mapped 01:22:776 (1,2,3) -
  8. 01:30:355 (1) - Suggestion to make 4/1 reverse ~

Lilyanna
  1. Try AR 4.5. It would give players a better bridge for the hard diff
  2. 00:43:460 (2) - rhythm suggestion ~ https://i.imgur.com/GneTy1v.png
  3. 01:05:091 (1,2) - It would be nice if you could use different structure here compared to 01:03:828 (3,4) . Because the music between these 2 pairs of sliders is very different
  4. 01:15:197 (1,2) - What do you think of something like this? https://i.imgur.com/YSUbT5T.png It would be a nice increase in object density especially since it's higher here in the easy
  5. 01:26:407 (1) - If you end this on circle 2 it would better reflect the vocals. It would also lower the object density which would be nice for the calm part
  6. 01:27:828 (1) - end on white tick

Hard
  1. AR 7. So the current gap between normal and hard is AR 4 and AR 8. Normally I'm not one to fuss about this but the gap between the ability to sight read is huge and 8 isn't really that necessary for this diff
  2. 00:37:302 (1) - Spacing feels a tad too high to say this is still the calm part. 1.8 DS is good enough for you?
  3. 00:40:776 (4) - Ok definitenly this one. Unlike above there is not really much to emphasis in the song
  4. 01:27:512 - Circle here would play nicely
  5. 01:31:618 (1) - NC not neccessary
  6. 01:29:091 (1,2,3,4) - Just my opinion as a mapper but I'm not really feeling this back and forth structure. I feel like a more linear pattern with lower spacing would be more appropriate (wew subjective modding with no explanation, great BN mod)

Yammichi
  1. 00:14:249 (6) - You know what would be really cool, if you stacked this on top of 00:14:565 (1) -
  2. 00:19:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I find this pattern a bit weird because it almost starts playing like a stack by the time you get to 6. Idk if that was your intended effect
  3. 00:52:144 (9) - same as 00:14:249 (6) if you turned 9 into a circle
  4. 01:11:407 (1,1,1) - why didn't you adopt the same SV and spacing as before? I don't really feel the song is becoming less intense here
  5. 01:29:407 - I'm a bit sceptical why you didn't map this piano note when you mapped 01:29:723 (3,4) -

2 Furries Foxes
  1. 00:43:618 (3) - If you're going to map this beat then hitsound it
  2. 00:57:986 (3) - Because this SV change is so drastic I would prefer an NC here as it came way out the blue for me. Add NC where else this applies

Whose ever Extra is above the first Insane, it's 5 am
  1. 00:21:512 (1) - mute the slider end?
  2. 00:56:881 (2) - NC
  3. 00:57:355 (3) - You sure you don't want a mini stream or something? feels anti climatic to have a slider + circle to map this kind of noise in an extra

Nev0
  1. 00:43:302 (3) - NC pattern could be optimised for better readability. Try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9783974
  2. 01:07:302 (1) - Not many ppl are going to read this as a 3/4 slider because of the spacing and that the shape makes it look smaller than it actually is
  3. 01:12:670 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - woah look who's too cool for 1,2,1,2 NCs
  4. 01:29:407 - I'm a bit sceptical why you didn't map this piano note when you mapped 01:29:723 (2,3)
  5. 01:31:618 (1) - end on white tick . It's really ambiguous how this ends on the red tick as you have such big spacing between 01:32:881 (1) in combination with the fact you ended the previous slider on the white tick too

Wew I'm finally near the end, guess I'll use an edgier colour
  1. xd nothing to say
[]Popping for the AR spread I mentioned in Hard and the slider structure thingy I stated in Easy

Call me back when everyone has replied. I've modded like 20 maps of this song this year jesus
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Foxy Grandpa

Kisses wrote:

2 Furries Foxes i will end u
  1. 00:43:618 (3) - If you're going to map this beat then hitsound it
  2. 00:57:986 (3) - Because this SV change is so drastic I would prefer an NC here as it came way out the blue for me. Add NC where else this applies
Fixed both thank uuu

hi shira mom
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Nevo
Global Moderator
1,184 posts
Joined November 2015
Nevo

Kisses wrote:

Nev0
  1. 00:43:302 (3) - NC pattern could be optimised for better readability. Try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9783974
  2. 01:07:302 (1) - Not many ppl are going to read this as a 3/4 slider because of the spacing and that the shape makes it look smaller than it actually is
  3. 01:12:670 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - woah look who's too cool for 1,2,1,2 NCs pssh I used all my 1 2 ideas on yubi :^)
  4. 01:29:407 - I'm a bit sceptical why you didn't map this piano note when you mapped 01:29:723 (2,3)
  5. 01:31:618 (1) - end on white tick . It's really ambiguous how this ends on the red tick as you have such big spacing between 01:32:881 (1) in combination with the fact you ended the previous slider on the white tick too


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Lince Cosmico
340 posts
Joined February 2015
Lince Cosmico

Kisses wrote:

Whose ever Extra is above the first Insane, it's 5 am
  1. 00:21:512 (1) - mute the slider end? ok
  2. 00:56:881 (2) - NC ok
  3. 00:57:355 (3) - You sure you don't want a mini stream or something? feels anti climatic to have a slider + circle to map this kind of noise in an extra nah i just want to follow vocals at this point

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Shira
1,094 posts
Joined January 2015
Topic Starter
Shira

Kisses wrote:

Easy
  1. 00:42:355 (1,2) - Don't structure objects like this in Easies. Where the head 2 starts behind 1. It's extremely hard for a beginner to pick and read especially since the rhythm is somewhat ambiguous too.
  2. 00:42:355 (1) - concerning the rhythm above, how about this? https://i.imgur.com/dQcwiQk.png
  3. 00:44:881 (1) - ^
  4. 00:56:091 (2) - same as 00:42:355 (1,2) concerning structure
  5. 00:57:197 (3) - Deleting this would create a nice pause/break before the kiai and would in turn add more emphasis to the start of the chorus
  6. 01:15:197 (1) - Rhythm suggestion ~ More emphatic and flows better imho https://i.imgur.com/DbkPi9F.png
  7. 01:25:302 (1) - If you make this into a 2/1 reverse slider it would reflect the vocals a lot more. I had a feeling you want to portray the vocals with the way you mapped 01:22:776 (1,2,3) - but i was following piano for the examples
  8. 01:30:355 (1) - Suggestion to make 4/1 reverse ~

Hard
  1. AR 7. So the current gap between normal and hard is AR 4 and AR 8. Normally I'm not one to fuss about this but the gap between the ability to sight read is huge and 8 isn't really that necessary for this diff
  2. 00:37:302 (1) - Spacing feels a tad too high to say this is still the calm part. 1.8 DS is good enough for you?
  3. 00:40:776 (4) - Ok definitenly this one. Unlike above there is not really much to emphasis in the song
  4. 01:27:512 - Circle here would play nicely piano and such
  5. 01:31:618 (1) - NC not neccessary
  6. 01:29:091 (1,2,3,4) - Just my opinion as a mapper but I'm not really feeling this back and forth structure. I feel like a more linear pattern with lower spacing would be more appropriate (wew subjective modding with no explanation, great BN mod) i liek itttt
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Lilyanna
1,918 posts
Joined March 2016
Lilyanna

Kisses wrote:

Lilyanna
  1. Try AR 4.5. It would give players a better bridge for the hard diff
  2. 00:43:460 (2) - rhythm suggestion ~ https://i.imgur.com/GneTy1v.png
  3. 01:05:091 (1,2) - It would be nice if you could use different structure here compared to 01:03:828 (3,4) . Because the music between these 2 pairs of sliders is very different there is a different flow direction also it goes from down to up shape is not everything to express the music
  4. 01:15:197 (1,2) - What do you think of something like this? https://i.imgur.com/YSUbT5T.png It would be a nice increase in object density especially since it's higher here in the easy
  5. 01:26:407 (1) - If you end this on circle 2 it would better reflect the vocals. It would also lower the object density which would be nice for the calm part i dont think it will better reflect the vocals since the vocals end where the slider end rn and that hitcircle is to emphasize the piano also its just one hitcircle its not so dense for a calm part
  6. 01:27:828 (1) - end on white tick


[]Popping for the AR spread I mentioned in Hard and the slider structure thingy I stated in Easy

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Yamicchi
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Yamicchi

Kisses wrote:

Yammichi
  1. 00:14:249 (6) - You know what would be really cool, if you stacked this on top of 00:14:565 (1) - idk I don't really like the flow of it
  2. 00:19:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I find this pattern a bit weird because it almost starts playing like a stack by the time you get to 6. Idk if that was your intended effect ya it's my intention. The spacing decrease gradually. I wasn't structuring the pattern for aesthetics though
  3. 00:52:144 (9) - same as 00:14:249 (6) if you turned 9 into a circle this slider has different intensity compare to that 6, so I don't think I would stack it xd
  4. 01:11:407 (1,1,1) - why didn't you adopt the same SV and spacing as before? I don't really feel the song is becoming less intense here having the section pretty much 1/2 slider heavy, the intensity of the section would be very flat with no emphasis. That's why I think I should lower the SV a bit to support the vocal better, also to emphasize the 01:12:670 - section better
  5. 01:29:407 - I'm a bit sceptical why you didn't map this piano note when you mapped 01:29:723 (3,4) - I don't think that is the piano. It's the bass guitar I believe. The piano shows up clearly on 01:28:934 (2,3,4) - as you can hear. So um, yeah I'm not gonna add it
Sorry for not applying anything and for the really late reply ><
Foxy Grandpa
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Foxy Grandpa
tfw you wait a week to deny everything
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Nevo
lmao
Shira
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lomao
Lilyanna
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Lilyanna
lmaoa
_handholding
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_handholding
lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

call maridius for qual
Nevo
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Shira
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Kisses wrote:

lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

call maridius for qual
:nyab:
Foxy Grandpa
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MaridiuS
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Yamicchi went godmod
Shira
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MaridiuS wrote:

Yamicchi went godmod
thanks for teh kurisumasu puresento

and all the people in the set~
Lilyanna
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first grats <3
Lince Cosmico
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Lince Cosmico
yup
Nevo
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Nevo
AAA IM AT AN AIRPORT AND CANT PLAY THE MAP ;-;
MaridiuS
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MaridiuS
cutest anime set 2k18 smh
Yamicchi
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yayyyyy gratz Shiratoi owo
now do the MiRAi
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