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Nattsun wrote:

Now DT a map that is not 200bpm with DT :-)

Oh...

does this count
it's caffeine fighter btw
otherwise im just gonna try to HDDT byoumei koiowazurai or tokyo summer session and fail anyways FeelsBadMan
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StephOsu wrote:

Nattsun wrote:

Now DT a map that is not 200bpm with DT :-)

Oh...

does this count
it's caffeine fighter btw
otherwise im just gonna try to HDDT byoumei koiowazurai or tokyo summer session and fail anyways FeelsBadMan
I exaggerated.

Speed is a skill and not everyone has it. Apparently 240 BPM is doable for you. But can you read AR 10.3? Can you go faster than 250 BPM? Can you DT a map that isn't generic?

PS: How many people can actually read AR 10.3 on a non farm map?
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I play some DT but I honestly find it no easier or harder to get scores in than nomod or even HR.

When I play DT I find I am having to challenge my speed
When I play nomod I am challenging my reading
When I play HR I am challenging my aim precision and rhythmic timing

I feel all 3 are pretty well balanced and take me about same effort for same PP
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Nattsun wrote:

I exaggerated.

Speed is a skill and not everyone has it. Apparently 240 BPM is doable for you. But can you read AR 10.3? Can you go faster than 250 BPM? Can you DT a map that isn't generic?

PS: How many people can actually read AR 10.3 on a non farm map?
250bpm is my upper limit actually but im still trying to break through that upper limit by building stamina
and also for reading AR10 is my upper limit because im still learning HR and AR10.3 terrifies me
tbh those stuffs actually requires skills even on farm maps
i mean, it's not like you can just casually FC daidai HDDT and get that juicy 300++pp as a 2k~3k pp player
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StephOsu wrote:

Nattsun wrote:

I exaggerated.

Speed is a skill and not everyone has it. Apparently 240 BPM is doable for you. But can you read AR 10.3? Can you go faster than 250 BPM? Can you DT a map that isn't generic?

PS: How many people can actually read AR 10.3 on a non farm map?
250bpm is my upper limit actually but im still trying to break through that upper limit by building stamina
and also for reading AR10 is my upper limit because im still learning HR and AR10.3 terrifies me
tbh those stuffs actually requires skills even on farm maps
i mean, it's not like you can just casually FC daidai HDDT and get that juicy 300++pp as a 2k~3k pp player
Indeed, reading AR 10.3 is already an amazing skill. Fuck AR 10, real men FC Caramelldansen lesjuh diff.

A 2-3k pp player can pass it with DT for pp, though. FCing the first half is already 170pp with 95% accuracy. It"s undeniable that daidai+dt is overweighted, though. It's hard, but the easiest 300 pp you can get. There are more overweighted DT maps ranging from 180-300 pp, but some 3* maps with DT are already really hard, nobody DTs them tho.
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Rayne wrote:

Dunno about HR, I can't see how spamming HR on lower rank is fun.
It isn't, learning HR is painful and require immense amount of patient.

DT require skill. Artificial speed of approach circle makes it harder to play "into approach circles", forces listening to sometimes distorted song.

OD9 / OD 9.75 doesn't make it any easier.

Sorry, I personally don't have any respect for "dt takes no skill".
If it doesn't require skill, repeat this scores... more, if it takes no skill, repeat at least ONE score from rafis top100 / angelsim top100 or yamemashita top 100.
Until then... keep being amusing.

@op: Nothing wrong with playing DT if you enjoy this mod and feel like you are good at it.
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Nattsun wrote:

FCing the first half is already 170pp with 95% accuracy.
And with 0 misses
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KupcaH wrote:

Nattsun wrote:

FCing the first half is already 170pp with 95% accuracy.
And with 0 misses
One of my osu! friends got 170pp with a 94% acc A rank. An FC is probably way more than 200pp even with that accuracy.
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Nattsun wrote:

Indeed, reading AR 10.3 is already an amazing skill. Fuck AR 10, real men FC Caramelldansen lesjuh diff.

A 2-3k pp player can pass it with DT for pp, though. FCing the first half is already 170pp with 95% accuracy. It"s undeniable that daidai+dt is overweighted, though. It's hard, but the easiest 300 pp you can get. There are more overweighted DT maps ranging from 180-300 pp, but some 3* maps with DT are already really hard, nobody DTs them tho.
Im actually a firm believer that even farm maps requires skills (because i can't FC any of the tatoe maps when it's known as among the easiest pp ever)
but sometimes I just like to throw some memes like "DT takes no skills" around because of the memes
anyways daidai is overweighted, yes, but my point still stands. until you reach at least 4k+ pp I don't see any people that can FC daidai even with shitty acc
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https://osu.ppy.sh/u/yellowy246 this guy did it years ago at around 3k pp with 98% hddt. But then again he has monstrous talent.
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alright there's always few exceptions here and there
we call them "errors" and just rule them out
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osu takes no skill, only talent matters
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N0thingSpecial wrote:

osu takes no skill, only talent matters
This guy knows
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Not much answers I can find but I am ok with it
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osu is aim game
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wrong
osu is garbage game
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ok actually it's been a while since i posted here so here i go

DT is a skill. there are a few skills
- aim
- speed (i'd also say snap is included here)
- tap
- reading

and they're all related
you have to have speed to reach but you also need to aim in order to actually hit the circle
you have to aim but you need to tap on the rhythm
you need to tap but you have to read the pattern first to understand it

playing DT isnt bad, it jsut develops skills such as fast ar reading abilities and pattern recognition in the DT way. this way once you adapt to DT it's much easier. however, yes, this makes other abilities weaker, such as being able to read lower ar. (unless you're like, a top player coz imo they've already gone through enough of all mods to lose any skill anywhere)
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StephOsu wrote:

Nattsun wrote:

Indeed, reading AR 10.3 is already an amazing skill. Fuck AR 10, real men FC Caramelldansen lesjuh diff.

A 2-3k pp player can pass it with DT for pp, though. FCing the first half is already 170pp with 95% accuracy. It"s undeniable that daidai+dt is overweighted, though. It's hard, but the easiest 300 pp you can get. There are more overweighted DT maps ranging from 180-300 pp, but some 3* maps with DT are already really hard, nobody DTs them tho.
Im actually a firm believer that even farm maps requires skills (because i can't FC any of the tatoe maps when it's known as among the easiest pp ever)
but sometimes I just like to throw some memes like "DT takes no skills" around because of the memes
anyways daidai is overweighted, yes, but my point still stands. until you reach at least 4k+ pp I don't see any people that can FC daidai even with shitty acc
Of course, farm maps take skill. Let's be real here the 6* diff of Haitai is definitely not easy. It may be short and easy to read, but the spacing is definitely on 6* level and takes 2 important skills, accuracy AND good aim. My aim is trash and I can't even pass it consistently lol, on the other hand, I'm pretty good at high bpm sliderspam maps and oldschool ar7/8 mapping which most farmers suck at.

I guess the main reason you (me too) can't farm tatoe is because you don't play jumpspam maps THAT often, unlike the majority of the community. That's just my assumtion, though.
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wrong, Steph playing farm maps 24/7 trying to get pp
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KupcaH wrote:

wrong, Steph playing farm maps 24/7 trying to get pp
I don't :V

Well, maybe if there is a AR7 diff...
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