Tamaki to Yumine (CV*Naganawa Maria, Maekawa Ryoko) - Yonaka · forum

_yu68

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_yu68 2017-07-08T04:58:12+00:00

namaniku wrote:

お待たせしました～～ GD done

29's Inner Oni

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256,192,85364,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,85525,1,2,0:0:0:0:

ありがとうございます！

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

Joined July 2014

yuzu__rinrin 2017-07-15T09:39:15+00:00

hi! M4M受けてくれてありがとう～

初心者modderなので的外れなことを鼻血が出るほど言います。
多分書くことないと思います。

Mzukashii

[general]

metadeta
メッチャ表記揺れがありました...

"【TVサイズ】"
edには書かれてませんでしたが、ほかのサイト(AmazonやらMoraやら音楽サイト諸々)覗いたら書いてあります...

cvをCVに？
これはエンディングムービーでは大文字なんですけど公式のページでは小文字なんですよね。。。TVサイズいらねえとか言ったけどここはedムービーに合わせたほうがいいのかな？(公式の表記は多分Fullのため。)

他サイト覗いてきましたが"CV"がいい説？

あとは"、"なのか"・"なのかですかね。。。これも公式サイトでは"、"でしたがedムービーと他サイトでは"・"でしたね。

ここまで書いといてあれなんですけど表記揺れの件はQATに確認した方が早いと思います。見れば見るほど揺れまくってます

;w;
Kantan, Futsuu, Muzukashii, Oni, これらの難易度にWidescreen Supportのチェックが入っています

[Kantan]

00:17:138 (20) - drumなら00:17:783 - じゃない...?
00:22:299 (29) - ここも00:22:945 - じゃないかなと。
00:27:461 (37) - → 00:28:106 -
00:32:622 (45) - → 00:33:267 -

これら四つはいままで配置されていた場所でもdrumはしっかりとれていますが、より強い所に合わせるとしたら、という提案です。あとは00:18:106 (22) - こういう音の前の密度を高めてあげたほうがその区分のpatternをやり切った感じがして(ほんとに個人的な話で)こういう組み方もいいんじゃないかっていう感じです。

00:52:299 (59,60,61) - これらを消してspinner?

00:52:299 - から 00:54:557 - のｼｭｳｨｲｲｲｲｲﾝって音をfollowするならspinが一番いいと思います。ゆむやさんの考えでこれらのビルドアップを残すのであれば、それも流れの理にかなっているのでそのままでもgoodです。

[Futsuu]
これより上の難易度作らないのでよくわからないものばっかり書きます

00:07:299 (11,12) - を00:07:461 - に移動？

kdd-kだと流れ的にいきなりでウ～～～ンってなりました、それならk-ddkの方がワンクッション置かれているので打ちやすい気がします。
00:15:848 (34) - delete

個人的には削れます。
まず 00:15:203 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38) - がまだ長い気がします。
00:16:170 (35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42) - だけの部分で十分変化は取れていると考えました。
00:17:622 (40,41) -
最初のを変えていたのなら、一貫性のためにchange?
00:21:009 (49) - delete
二つ目の提案と一緒ですね、長い気がするというところです。
00:28:751 (72) - delete.

変わり目を大事にしたいですね...
00:29:074 (73) - のために消すのもありかと思います。
01:00:203 (125,126) - delete.

00:54:880 (108,109) - このパターンは取っていかないと、と思ったのでdeleteです
01:01:170 - add d

さっきの続きみたいな。124,125,126でdddを打つよりだったら、128からのdddのほうが聞こえがいい気がしました。
01:10:525 (157,158) - delete, 01:11:493 - added k?

[Muzukashii]

00:22:138 (87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94) - なんか不安定な感じがしました。

自分なら...
線 00:23:106 -

[Oni]

00:12:783 (59,60) - ctrl+g

00:12:622 (58,59,60) - ここでmelodyであるk-d-kパターンを拾っていきたいですね...
00:23:428 (128) - move to 00:23:267 - , 00:23:106 (127,128) - ここの色を反転。

00:23:267 - のｳｪｲがノリノリで合いの手入れてるような音があるのでここを拾いたいですね。00:23:106 - のkも入れておきたいですがｳｪｲのほうが音が明らかに高いのでdで流れをよくする...みたいな感じです。

[29's Inner Oni]

00:15:767 (83) - move to 00:16:090 - ?

vocalのノビを考えた時、00:15:686 (82,83,84) - のtripletは少し奇妙かな？とおもったので。
00:59:235 (35,36,37,38) - 色反転(dddk)?

こうすることで38でclapが取れると思います。
01:09:557 (119,120,121,122) - same as ^
01:24:235 (209,210) - ctrl+g

210をkにしたい...! なのでctrl+g じゃなくてもkkkdkでも私はいいと思います。

[Stella]

tokuninaidesu

00:40:041 (275) - move to 00:40:203 -
00:40:525 (277) - move to 00:40:686 -

なぜパターンを崩したのか、2-2-~のパターンが一番クリアに聞こえる配置だと思います。

全体的に見れば整っていると思います。
Innerから上は†プロ†って感じでした、Good luck!

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

492 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

_yu68 2017-07-15T10:39:13+00:00

blue=change
red=keep

yuzu__rinrin wrote:
hi! M4M受けてくれてありがとう～

初心者modderなので的外れなことを鼻血が出るほど言います。
多分書くことないと思います。
Mzukashii
[general]
metadeta
メッチャ表記揺れがありました...

"【TVサイズ】"
edには書かれてませんでしたが、ほかのサイト(AmazonやらMoraやら音楽サイト諸々)覗いたら書いてあります...

cvをCVに？
これはエンディングムービーでは大文字なんですけど公式のページでは小文字なんですよね。。。TVサイズいらねえとか言ったけどここはedムービーに合わせたほうがいいのかな？(公式の表記は多分Fullのため。)

他サイト覗いてきましたが"CV"がいい説？

あとは"、"なのか"・"なのかですかね。。。これも公式サイトでは"、"でしたがedムービーと他サイトでは"・"でしたね。

ここまで書いといてあれなんですけど表記揺れの件はQATに確認した方が早いと思います。見れば見るほど揺れまくってます

;w;
アルバムのリーフレットを基準としたメタデータに修正しました。念のため近いうちにQATの方などに訊きます。Rominised Artistに関しては'・'の扱いがわからないのでコンマで保留。
Kantan, Futsuu, Muzukashii, Oni, これらの難易度にWidescreen Supportのチェックが入っています fixed
[Kantan]

00:17:138 (20) - drumなら00:17:783 - じゃない...? moved
00:22:299 (29) - ここも00:22:945 - じゃないかなと。 ^
00:27:461 (37) - → 00:28:106 - ^
00:32:622 (45) - → 00:33:267 - ^

これら四つはいままで配置されていた場所でもdrumはしっかりとれていますが、より強い所に合わせるとしたら、という提案です。あとは00:18:106 (22) - こういう音の前の密度を高めてあげたほうがその区分のpatternをやり切った感じがして(ほんとに個人的な話で)こういう組み方もいいんじゃないかっていう感じです。 GOODです

00:52:299 (59,60,61) - これらを消してspinner? changed Futsuuにおいてもspinnerへ置き換えました。

00:52:299 - から 00:54:557 - のｼｭｳｨｲｲｲｲｲﾝって音をfollowするならspinが一番いいと思います。ゆむやさんの考えでこれらのビルドアップを残すのであれば、それも流れの理にかなっているのでそのままでもgoodです。
[Futsuu]
これより上の難易度作らないのでよくわからないものばっかり書きます
00:07:299 (11,12) - を00:07:461 - に移動？

kdd-kだと流れ的にいきなりでウ～～～ンってなりました、それならk-ddkの方がワンクッション置かれているので打ちやすい気がします。 00:06:816 - が休符であることも考えるとこちらの方が自然ですね。changed
00:15:848 (34) - delete

個人的には削れます。
まず 00:15:203 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38) - がまだ長い気がします。
00:16:170 (35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42) - だけの部分で十分変化は取れていると考えました。 deleted

00:17:622 (40,41) -
最初のを変えていたのなら、一貫性のためにchange? 00:17:138 (37) - の音取りを考えると今の方がより自然なように感じます。リズムの多様性も兼ねてkeep

00:21:009 (49) - delete
二つ目の提案と一緒ですね、長い気がするというところです。 deleted

00:28:751 (72) - delete.

変わり目を大事にしたいですね...
00:29:074 (73) - のために消すのもありかと思います。 deleted

01:00:203 (125,126) - delete.

00:54:880 (108,109) - このパターンは取っていかないと、と思ったのでdeleteです 01:00:041 - ここからの1/2がけっこう主張してくるようなイメージがあるので1/2で置いときたいです

01:01:170 - add d

さっきの続きみたいな。124,125,126でdddを打つよりだったら、128からのdddのほうが聞こえがいい気がしました。上記のためkeep

01:10:525 (157,158) - delete, 01:11:493 - added k? ^
[Muzukashii]

00:22:138 (87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94) - なんか不安定な感じがしました。

自分なら...
線 00:23:106 -

異質なスネア(?)が入り始めるタイミングを強調したいです。d_kkk_d_d_k_d_k___k___って感じに変えました。
[Oni]

00:12:783 (59,60) - ctrl+g

00:12:622 (58,59,60) - ここでmelodyであるk-d-kパターンを拾っていきたいですね... changed

00:23:428 (128) - move to 00:23:267 - , 00:23:106 (127,128) - ここの色を反転。

00:23:267 - のｳｪｲがノリノリで合いの手入れてるような音があるのでここを拾いたいですね。00:23:106 - のkも入れておきたいですがｳｪｲのほうが音が明らかに高いのでdで流れをよくする...みたいな感じです。 moved 配色に関しては00:22:138 (119,120,123,127) - この4つでボーカルを強調したいため保留。k->dと異なる配色のため強調は問題なくできると思います。
[Stella]

tokuninaidesu
00:40:041 (275) - move to 00:40:203 -
00:40:525 (277) - move to 00:40:686 -

なぜパターンを崩したのか、2-2-~のパターンが一番クリアに聞こえる配置だと思います。聞こえはいいですが、低密度のパートであるここにおいては特に多様性を求めたいです。音から大きく外れているわけでもないように聞こえます。

全体的に見れば整っていると思います。
Innerから上は†プロ†って感じでした、Good luck!

ありがとうございました！低難易度については特に参考になりました

komasy

621 posts

Joined October 2012

komasy 2017-07-15T10:43:03+00:00

Hi!
初心者modderなので的外れなことを血尿が出るほど言います。

mod

[

Kantan]
特にありません

[

Futsuu]
00:33:428 - add d? パートのラストということでパターンに変化を付けつつ密度を少し上げることで場面展開をより明確にします

01:01:332 (22) - サビの1回目のパターンと比べて長い気がしたのでdelete?

01:11:654 (54) - ^

01:14:235 - move to 01:14:396 - というのはどうでしょうか。主旋律が01:14:074 - で終わっているのでそれに忠実にしつつ、変化球的な面白さが感じれると思います。

[

Muzukashii]
00:06:977 - k? Oniと同様です

00:27:622 - ^

01:17:299 - 個人的には01:16:977 - へmove&k してﾃｨﾝのような高温に合わせた方がフィットすると思いました。また01:15:848 - もddkなのでリズム変えた方が面白いかなと思いました

01:22:461 - k and move to 01:22:138 - ^

[

Oni]
00:06:977 - k? ベースが鳴ってはいますがプレイしていて聞こえやすかったのが主旋律？でしたのでkの方がフィットするように感じました。ベースの音も00:06:816 - に比べて上がっているようにもきこえます

00:07:945 (27,28) - move to 00:07:864 - ? ワブル？が00:07:783 - から始まっているのでこちらの方がより打鍵感がいいと思いました。

00:13:186 - move to 00:13:025 - same. またリズムパターンが101110101110と来ているのでそれに合わせることで気持ちよく叩けると思いました

00:22:864 (125,126) - ctrl+g? このパートでは1回目よりボーカルを優先しているので、ドラムを外すことにはなりますがボーカルの上昇に合うかなと思いました。

00:27:622 - k? 一回目と同様です

01:19:880 - 102210202010を提案します。上記の通りワブルの音が01:20:041 - のように聞こえたので

[

29's Inner Oni]
00:19:961 - 音程的にはdのように思えます。また00:19:074 - ここもdkk kとなっており縁の割合が高いためdの方がいいと思いました。

00:26:090 - 個人的に同様にdですかね…　

00:29:396 - delete? パターン化という意味もありますが、直前まで1/4や1/6で密度が高くなっているのでここを消すことでプレイ感の向上が見込めるかと思いました。

00:31:009 (201,202,203,204,205,206) - 一回目がkkdkk（mod提案を受けた場合はkkddk）になっていますのでここもそれに合わせた配色の方が自然だと思います。00:31:170 (204,205,206) - をddk?

00:42:138 - 同じようなリズムが続いているような気がしたのでここにadd dして4小節目だけ別のリズムを叩かせるというのはどうでしょうか？

00:55:686 (6,7) - ctrl+gした方がボーカルとドラムにフィットしませんか？

00:57:219 - それといった理由はないんですけどadd dした方がなんとなく良い気がしました><

00:58:106 - 一回目の音取りに合わせてこちらもk

01:03:106 - パターンは錆の後半から変わっているのでここはddkにして前半と揃えるのはどうでしょうか

01:03:590 (72,73,74,75) - 上の提案もあって、dkkdの配色の方が自然だと思います

01:07:541 - 一回目と同様でd

01:13:186 - add d. 01:08:025 - と同じような感じで

01:13:428 - このあたりの配色も一回目と同様です。サビのラストとしてあえてこのままにしてパターンをひねるというのもいいと思います

01:24:235 (209,210) - ドラムと音程をフォローするためにctrl+g
[

すてっぁ]
00:03:267 - デカいクラッシュが鳴っているためDにしてもいいかもしれません(他難度も)

00:13:106 - delete? 1/6の4打が連続しているのでここ一帯密度が高くプレイ感が悪いように感じます。00:23:267 - ここのように、心持休憩を持たせるといいと思います。僕が下手だから叩きにくいと感じただけかもしれないのでなんとなく違うようであればスルーしてください><(00:33:590 - ここはパートのラスト&次が休憩地帯ということでいいと思います。)

01:00:848 - change to k? 主旋律の音の高低的にこちらの方がフィットするかなと思ったのと、01:01:332 - ここと配色は一緒ですが、音が違うように聞こえたので差別化を図る目的です。

01:04:074 - このあたりサビの折り返し地点としてもう少し密度を上げてもいいともいます。01:04:316 - 個人的にはここにadd kがいいと思いました。

01:11:170 - 先ほどと同様の理由でk?

01:15:525 - D? しっかりとした場面展開が期待できるかなと思ったのと強めの音をフォローする目的です(他難度も)

メッチャ好きです！凄い綺麗にできているmapsetだと思うのでI is very Ouen
Good Luck

Last edited by komasy 2017-07-16T03:19:48+00:00, edited 4 times in total.

namaniku

43 posts

Joined May 2013

namaniku 2017-07-15T14:47:48+00:00

namaniku wrote:
yuzu__rinrin wrote:
hi! M4M受けてくれてありがとう～

初心者modderなので的外れなことを鼻血が出るほど言います。
多分書くことないと思います。
Mzukashii
[29's Inner Oni]
00:15:767 (83) - move to 00:16:090 - ? 言われてみれば違和感しかありませんでした moved

vocalのノビを考えた時、00:15:686 (82,83,84) - のtripletは少し奇妙かな？とおもったので。
00:59:235 (35,36,37,38) - 色反転(dddk)? changed

こうすることで38でclapが取れると思います。

01:09:557 (119,120,121,122) - same as ^ changed
01:24:235 (209,210) - ctrl+g changed

210をkにしたい...! なのでctrl+g じゃなくてもkkkdkでも私はいいと思います。

全体的に見れば整っていると思います。
Innerから上は†プロ†って感じでした、Good luck!
ありがとうございました！

namaniku

43 posts

Joined May 2013

namaniku 2017-07-15T23:55:54+00:00

namaniku wrote:
komasy wrote:
Hi!
初心者modderなので的外れなことを血尿が出るほど言います。
mod(後ほどすべて書きます、すみません。)
[29's Inner Oni]
00:19:961 - 音程的にはdのように思えます。また00:19:074 - ここもdkk kとなっており縁の割合が高いためdの方がいいと思いました。両方changed

00:26:090 - 個人的に同様にdですかね…　インストに重点を置くとkで合ってる気がするのでkeep

00:29:396 - delete? パターン化という意味もありますが、直前まで1/4や1/6で密度が高くなっているのでここを消すことでプレイ感の向上が見込めるかと思いました。 deleted

00:31:009 (201,202,203,204,205,206) - 一回目がkkdkk（mod提案を受けた場合はkkddk）になっていますのでここもそれに合わせた配色の方が自然だと思います。00:31:170 (204,205,206) - をddk? 前のmod提案をkeepしたのでここもkeepしますが、一回目と二回目は同じ音が鳴っているのでパターンの不適合性によってはこれからのmod次第で変更する可能性があります。

00:42:138 - 同じようなリズムが続いているような気がしたのでここにadd dして4小節目だけ別のリズムを叩かせるというのはどうでしょうか？ added

00:55:686 (6,7) - ctrl+gした方がボーカルとドラムにフィットしませんか？ changed

00:57:219 - それといった理由はないんですけどadd dした方がなんとなく良い気がしました>< 音に合ってない気がしたのでここはkeep

00:58:106 - 一回目の音取りに合わせてこちらもk changed

01:03:106 - パターンは錆の後半から変わっているのでここはddkにして前半と揃えるのはどうでしょうか changed

01:03:590 (72,73,74,75) - 上の提案もあって、dkkdの配色の方が自然だと思います changed

01:07:541 - 一回目と同様でd 同様にここもkeep

01:13:186 - add d. 01:08:025 - と同じような感じで added

01:13:428 - このあたりの配色も一回目と同様です。サビのラストとしてあえてこのままにしてパターンをひねるというのもいいと思います一回目と統一しました

01:24:235 (209,210) - ドラムと音程をフォローするためにctrl+g 前modで同じ箇所で違う指摘がありましたがドラムと音程のフォローという意味でchanged
メッチャ好きです！
Good Luck
ありがとうございました！

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

492 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

_yu68 2017-07-16T13:47:29+00:00

komasy wrote:
Hi!
初心者modderなので的外れなことを血尿が出るほど言います。
mod
[Futsuu]
00:33:428 - add d? パートのラストということでパターンに変化を付けつつ密度を少し上げることで場面展開をより明確にします changed

01:01:332 (22) - サビの1回目のパターンと比べて長い気がしたのでdelete? ワブル(?)の有無を強調したいです

01:11:654 (54) - ^ ^

01:14:235 - move to 01:14:396 - というのはどうでしょうか。主旋律が01:14:074 - で終わっているのでそれに忠実にしつつ、変化球的な面白さが感じれると思います。密度が唐突に上がるような雰囲気がしたので代わりにdeleted

[Muzukashii]
00:06:977 - k? Oniと同様です changed

00:27:622 - ^ ^

01:17:299 - 個人的には01:16:977 - へmove&k してﾃｨﾝのような高温に合わせた方がフィットすると思いました。また01:15:848 - もddkなのでリズム変えた方が面白いかなと思いました changed

01:22:461 - k and move to 01:22:138 - ^ ^

[Oni]
00:06:977 - k? ベースが鳴ってはいますがプレイしていて聞こえやすかったのが主旋律？でしたのでkの方がフィットするように感じました。ベースの音も00:06:816 - に比べて上がっているようにもきこえます changed

00:07:945 (27,28) - move to 00:07:864 - ? ワブル？が00:07:783 - から始まっているのでこちらの方がより打鍵感がいいと思いました。イントロにおいてはclapを1/2で強調したいです。1/4の多くを白線で終わらせて安定感のあるリズムを求める意図も含めて。

00:13:186 - move to 00:13:025 - same. またリズムパターンが101110101110と来ているのでそれに合わせることで気持ちよく叩けると思いました同様に1/2でclapを表現したいです。

00:22:864 (125,126) - ctrl+g? このパートでは1回目よりボーカルを優先しているので、ドラムを外すことにはなりますがボーカルの上昇に合うかなと思いました。 00:23:106 - このボーカルを強調する意図でkeepします。

00:27:622 - k? 一回目と同様です changed

01:19:880 - 102210202010を提案します。上記の通りワブルの音が01:20:041 - のように聞こえたので同様にkeepとします。

[すてっぁ]
00:03:267 - デカいクラッシュが鳴っているためDにしてもいいかもしれません(他難度も) kiai冒頭のfinisherをより特別なものとして扱うため小ノートにしてあります

00:13:106 - delete? 1/6の4打が連続しているのでここ一帯密度が高くプレイ感が悪いように感じます。00:23:267 - ここのように、心持休憩を持たせるといいと思います。僕が下手だから叩きにくいと感じただけかもしれないのでなんとなく違うようであればスルーしてください><(00:33:590 - ここはパートのラスト&次が休憩地帯ということでいいと思います。) deleted 1/6の後に1/1を設け、k_kk|d...と次の小節へ繋げる形へ変更しました

01:00:848 - change to k? 主旋律の音の高低的にこちらの方がフィットするかなと思ったのと、01:01:332 - ここと配色は一緒ですが、音が違うように聞こえたので差別化を図る目的です。 changed

01:04:074 - このあたりサビの折り返し地点としてもう少し密度を上げてもいいともいます。01:04:316 - 個人的にはここにadd kがいいと思いました。音圧を考慮し密度は現状を保ちます。

01:11:170 - 先ほどと同様の理由でk? changed

01:15:525 - D? しっかりとした場面展開が期待できるかなと思ったのと強めの音をフォローする目的です(他難度も) 01:14:880 - この2/1によって場面の切り替わりは判断できるように思います。他難易度についてはかなり悩みましたがdiffごとの統一のため今は小ノートにしておきます;;
メッチャ好きです！凄い綺麗にできているmapsetだと思うのでI is very Ouen I is so Ureshii.
Good Luck

modありがとうございました！

Maya Tendo

196 posts

Joined February 2015

Maya Tendo 2017-07-18T10:42:28+00:00

漂うstellaのpp感
低難易度のパターンに完全な色反転を使うと飽きにくくなる感じがありますがそれは好みでしょう。
[kantan]
全体的に許容だと思いますので細かいところだけ
・00:12:622ここない方が最初の4小節だけ浮くのが防げるかと思います、確かに後ろと合わせてるのはわかりますが4小節ごとに前半を区分けすると直前に1/1の3連があるのが5パターンないのが最初だけってなるので4-2の方がよりパターン的に良いと思います。
・01:14:880ここ普通に消してしまっても良いと思います。ここがあると01:04:557にノーツがないのって突っ込まれる理由になりますし、むしろそうすると難易度的にマズイものがあると思うので後ろ側を消すと突っ込まれにくいですし難易度も良いままを保てると思います。
[Futsuu]
前半部分のノーツ配置いい感じだと思うのでFutsuuも細かいところだけ
・00:05:848 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - ここはちょっと00:11:009 (20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27) - と合わせた方が良いのでは？kantanと同じように簡単にするにしても1/1の場所がそのまま1/1左にズレてるのはマズイと思いますし、00:11:009 (20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27) - を何かしら合わせるかした方が良いと思います。
・00:32:622 (79,80,81,82,83,84) - ここもちょっと1/1の3連自体が２回連続になる事自体はいいんですけど1/1の配置の仕方が今までの小節のパターンと1/1ズレてるのが気になります。何とかした方が良いと思います。
・00:48:428 (96,97,98,99,100,101,102) - kantanが4/1しか配置されていないので1/1の使用は不適とまでは言いませんがスピナー直前に2つも詰めるのはよろしくないと思います。
・サビなんですけど00:55:525 (2,3,4) - と01:05:848 (34,35,36) - パターンになっているのはわかるんですけど音取りがボーカルにより過ぎてて01:00:686 (20,21,22,23,24) - の配置の仕方との違和感が大きすぎると思います。（もしくはその他サビの配置全部と言い換えても同じかもしれません）その上強拍にノーツが置かれてない部分が4つもあって叩きづらさもあると思うので00:56:170と01:06:493には何にせよノーツを置いた方が良いと思います。（00:58:751と01:09:074はそのままで良いと思います。）

とりあえず以上で。

YOOOOOOOOOオナニーーーーーーーYOOOOOOOOOオナニーーーーーーー

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

492 posts

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Topic Starter

_yu68 2017-07-18T14:50:14+00:00

blue=change
red=keep

Mrriichi wrote:
漂うstellaのpp感偶然です
低難易度のパターンに完全な色反転を使うと飽きにくくなる感じがありますがそれは好みでしょう。ドンカツそれぞれの固有の音を大切にしたいです in my mapping style
[kantan]
全体的に許容だと思いますので細かいところだけ
・00:12:622ここない方が最初の4小節だけ浮くのが防げるかと思います、確かに後ろと合わせてるのはわかりますが4小節ごとに前半を区分けすると直前に1/1の3連があるのが5パターンないのが最初だけってなるので4-2の方がよりパターン的に良いと思います。プレイ面においては、何小節ごとに～...と考えるよりは、流れの変化のほう焦点が合いやすいと思います。
・01:14:880ここ普通に消してしまっても良いと思います。ここがあると01:04:557にノーツがないのって突っ込まれる理由になりますし、むしろそうすると難易度的にマズイものがあると思うので後ろ側を消すと突っ込まれにくいですし難易度も良いままを保てると思います。 deleted
[Futsuu]
前半部分のノーツ配置いい感じだと思うのでFutsuuも細かいところだけ
・00:05:848 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - ここはちょっと00:11:009 (20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27) - と合わせた方が良いのでは？kantanと同じように簡単にするにしても1/1の場所がそのまま1/1左にズレてるのはマズイと思いますし、00:11:009 (20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27) - を何かしら合わせるかした方が良いと思います。音の差異・流れから考え、統一する必要性は感じられませんでした。
・00:32:622 (79,80,81,82,83,84) - ここもちょっと1/1の3連自体が２回連続になる事自体はいいんですけど1/1の配置の仕方が今までの小節のパターンと1/1ズレてるのが気になります。何とかした方が良いと思います。 00:21:332 (48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55) - とスネアとかが似た感じになってるのでそこと合わせてます 1/2加えたのは難易度を上げて前後とのメリハリ的なのをつけるためです
・00:48:428 (96,97,98,99,100,101,102) - kantanが4/1しか配置されていないので1/1の使用は不適とまでは言いませんがスピナー直前に2つも詰めるのはよろしくないと思います。逆にKantanの方に2/1を加えました
・サビなんですけど00:55:525 (2,3,4) - と01:05:848 (34,35,36) - パターンになっているのはわかるんですけど音取りがボーカルにより過ぎてて01:00:686 (20,21,22,23,24) - の配置の仕方との違和感が大きすぎると思います。（もしくはその他サビの配置全部と言い換えても同じかもしれません）その上強拍にノーツが置かれてない部分が4つもあって叩きづらさもあると思うので00:56:170と01:06:493には何にせよノーツを置いた方が良いと思います。（00:58:751と01:09:074はそのままで良いと思います。）サビ結構指摘受けてたので他の人の意見とマイオピニオンも組み合わせて色々変更しました。
00:57:299 - を00:58:267 - へ移動。ボーカル合わせの一貫。多様性も大切にしたいので01:07:622 - はボーカルの差異により保留します。
01:01:332 - kに変更して01:02:299 - へ移動。サビ序盤のボーカル合わせの流れを保つため、より明確なメロディに合わせる意図です。
01:11:654 - 上記同様にkに変更して01:12:622 - へ移動。
強拍にノーツを～...の提案に関して、曲の音を聞く限り、指摘された箇所は強拍として扱うのに適していないと判断したため現状を維持します。

とりあえず以上で。
YOOOOOOOOOオナニーーーーーーーYOOOOOOOOOオナニーーーーーーーオナニーでQF譜面破壊はご遠慮願います。

ありがとうございました。

IControl

473 posts

Joined January 2013

IControl 2017-07-21T18:12:09+00:00

Hey m4m req

Futsuu

00:57:783 (9) - maybe remove a note from these long streams? its kinda long

Muzukashii

01:01:170 (213) - you could remove a note from this stream its to long
01:11:493 (269) - ^

Oni

I feel as though kai time is too dense I think there could be more 1/1 and 1/2 breaks

00:56:977 (274,275) - remove these too to give break
00:59:154 (288) - ^
01:02:138 (310,311) - ^
01:03:912 (320,321,322,323,324,325) - remove these and add a note here 01:04:074 - and here 01:04:235 - mainly for a break but I think that part was very over mapped too
apply through rest of the section

The diffs I didn't mod I : thought were fine

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

492 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

_yu68 2017-07-24T11:30:01+00:00

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red=keep

IControl wrote:
Hey m4m req

Futsuu
00:57:783 (9) - maybe remove a note from these long streams? its kinda long I guess it's not hard for Futsuu players, so I would keep it.

Muzukashii
01:01:170 (213) - you could remove a note from this stream its to long deleted
01:11:493 (269) - ^ ^

Oni
I feel as though kai time is too dense I think there could be more 1/1 and 1/2 breaks Considering the difficulty of Kantan, Futsuu, Muzukashii, I think 1/1 are enough even now.

00:56:977 (274,275) - remove these too to give break ^
00:59:154 (288) - ^ ^
01:02:138 (310,311) - ^ ^
01:03:912 (320,321,322,323,324,325) - remove these and add a note here 01:04:074 - and here 01:04:235 - mainly for a break but I think that part was very over mapped too In order to show sound like wobble. Also, to balance density of each pattern, I would keep it.
apply through rest of the section

The diffs I didn't mod I : thought were fine

Thanks mod~

Alwaysyukaz

404 posts

Joined October 2014

Alwaysyukaz 2017-08-10T15:05:03+00:00

Hi yumuya!
Modding from My M4M req
sorry for late response

[Kantan]

00:03:267 (1) - delete this and make the spinner until 00:03:267 - I still havent idea what you offer from this part and seems its would be better

00:23:912 (31,32) - add finisher here? this part contain lounder sound so you can try this

00:38:106 (49) - its better to delete this one because i dont know which part you want to follow here

add don 00:36:170 - and add kat 00:38:751 - and change this 00:39:396 (51) -
to don *seems like DKKD one because you can compare the note 00:36:170 (48) - and 00:36:816 (49) - which is have the different sounds

00:41:977 (52) - change this to kat if you follow my suggestion above

00:43:267 (53) - change this part to 00:42:945 -

00:51:009 (59) - change this part to 00:50:686 -

01:01:332 (12) - delete? just like my explanation before that I dont know you want to follow the note

01:04:235 - add don and move 01:03:912 (16) - to 01:04:557 - *its more consistancy if you see the whole from 00:58:106 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - including my suggestion before

01:11:654 (29) - delete

01:13:912 (33) - change to don

01:14:235 (34) - delete

Good Luck!

D o t

250 posts

Joined May 2016

D o t 2017-08-14T04:50:30+00:00

Hola!　遅くなった
初心者modderなので的外れなことを鼻水が出るほど言います。

[Muzukashii]
00:03:267 (1) - 頭にfinish入れる方がいいと思います
00:12:057 (40) - change d and move to 00:12:380 - より簡単に遊べるかと
00:22:380 (89) - delete. ここの音は1/4を置く重さはないと思います、必要性がない
00:34:880 (145) - move to 00:34:719 - ?音は1/2の所にいるので
00:37:461 (149) - ^
00:40:041 (153) - ^
00:42:622 (157) - ^
01:15:525 (286) - finish入れる方がいいかと

[Oni]
00:03:267 (1) - muzuと同じく
00:12:783 (59,60) - Ctrl+G?
01:15:525 (410) - muzuと同じく

[Stella]
00:03:267 (1) - muzuと同じく
00:06:493 (21,25) - Ctrl+G? or change 00:06:977 (25) - to k ここのピッチはより高いので
00:18:267 (111,112) - Ctrl+G?
01:15:525 (199) - muzuと同じく

グッドラックです

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

492 posts

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Topic Starter

_yu68 2017-08-14T06:12:30+00:00

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red=keep

Alwaysyukaz wrote:
Hi yumuya!
Modding from My M4M req
sorry for late response no problem :3

[Kantan]

00:03:267 (1) - delete this and make the spinner until 00:03:267 - I still havent idea what you offer from this part and seems its would be better keep in order to show the sound by the circle

00:23:912 (31,32) - add finisher here? this part contain lounder sound so you can try this It feels over emphasize.

00:38:106 (49) - its better to delete this one because i dont know which part you want to follow here deleted

add don 00:36:170 - and add kat 00:38:751 - and change this 00:39:396 (51) -
to don *seems like DKKD one because you can compare the note 00:36:170 (48) - and 00:36:816 (49) - which is have the different sounds I didn't add the notes to make a difference with Futsuu. Also, I didn't change the hitsounds in order to show the difference of pitch between 00:39:396 - and 00:41:977 - .

00:41:977 (52) - change this to kat if you follow my suggestion above ^

00:43:267 (53) - change this part to 00:42:945 - keep in order to emphasize 00:44:557 -

00:51:009 (59) - change this part to 00:50:686 - deleted the note

01:01:332 (12) - delete? just like my explanation before that I dont know you want to follow the note the note makes simper rhythm for beginners

01:04:235 - add don and move 01:03:912 (16) - to 01:04:557 - *its more consistancy if you see the whole from 00:58:106 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - including my suggestion before needs 4/1 break for beginners

01:11:654 (29) - delete similar to 01:01:332 -

01:13:912 (33) - change to don changed

01:14:235 (34) - delete similar to 01:03:912 -

Good Luck!

D o t wrote:
Hola!　遅くなった
初心者modderなので的外れなことを鼻水が出るほど言います。問題ありません、modありがとうございます

[Muzukashii]
00:03:267 (1) - 頭にfinish入れる方がいいと思います keep in order to emphasize kiai
00:12:057 (40) - change d and move to 00:12:380 - より簡単に遊べるかと changed
00:22:380 (89) - delete. ここの音は1/4を置く重さはないと思います、必要性がない It sounds same snare sounds as 00:11:977 - so deleted 00:22:380 - and added d to 00:22:703 - .
00:34:880 (145) - move to 00:34:719 - ?音は1/2の所にいるので moved
00:37:461 (149) - ^ ^
00:40:041 (153) - ^ ^
00:42:622 (157) - ^ ^
01:15:525 (286) - finish入れる方がいいかと keep because of same reason as intro

[Oni]
00:03:267 (1) - muzuと同じく keep
00:12:783 (59,60) - Ctrl+G? keep in order that would be emphasize the clap at 00:12:945 -
01:15:525 (410) - muzuと同じく keep

[Stella]
00:03:267 (1) - muzuと同じく keep
00:06:493 (21,25) - Ctrl+G? or change 00:06:977 (25) - to k ここのピッチはより高いので changed 00:06:977 - to k
00:18:267 (111,112) - Ctrl+G? keep in order to show the difference between 00:18:428 - and 00:18:751 -
01:15:525 (199) - muzuと同じく keep

グッドラックです

Thanks for modding

xtrem3x

1,781 posts

Joined July 2009

xtrem3x 2017-08-16T02:03:46+00:00

(?)

General:

Don = d
Kat = k
Big Don = D
Big Kat = K

Kantan

> Finish spinner in 00:02:945- --> the space of a beat between spinner and note (is more guideline than rule).

00:46:493 - Add k note here --> seems monotone this part and needs more variable patterns.

01:11:332 - Change to k --> have more sound combinated with previous note than next.

Futsuu

> Finish spinner in 00:02:945- --> the space of a beat between spinner and note (is more guideline than rule).

00:49:396 (98,99) - ctrl+g (?)

00:59:719 - Change this note to k --> Same as Kantan.
01:10:041 - Same

Muzukashii

> Finish spinner in 00:02:945- --> Same as Kantan/Futsuu

01:24:719 (319,320) - change for d notes --> is a bit monotone.

Oni

> same situation, but here is better.

01:24:719 (457,458) - same as Muzukashii.

29's

> HP/OD = 6

00:07:622 (23,24) - ctrl+g

00:12:622 (57,58,59,60) - is better with pure d note.

00:31:251 - change this note to d --> have more emphasis about next note than 1/6 stream.

00:56:735 (15,16) - ctrl+g --> clap

01:01:977 (59,60,61,62,63,64) - change this part for kkkd d k --> clap+consistence with high sounds.

01:07:057 (99,100) - ctrl+g --> same as 00:56:735-

01:12:299 (145,146,147,148,149,150) - Same as 01:01:977-

01:18:590 (180,181) - ctrl+g --> same situation as 00:56:735-

01:24:074 (209,210,211,212,213) - change for k d k d d (?)

Stella

00:05:364 (13,14,15,16) - change this for dddk --> have more bass sound than treble sound.

00:15:364 (87,88,89,90,91,92,93) - ddk dddk --> Same situation ^

00:20:928 (131,132) - ctrl+g --> uchuu!

00:31:332 - Change this note to k --> have high sound in vocal.

00:59:235 (41,45) - ctrl+g (?)
01:09:557 (143,147) - Same

01:20:364 - Change to k --> same clap intentional sound.

01:24:719 (246,247) - d d --- as above diffs.

Since Kantan to Oni is good ... 2 stars owo)/**

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

492 posts

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Topic Starter

_yu68 2017-08-16T14:29:03+00:00

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red=keep

xtrem3x wrote:
(?)

General:

Don = d
Kat = k
Big Don = D
Big Kat = K

Kantan

> Finish spinner in 00:02:945- --> the space of a beat between spinner and note (is more guideline than rule). fixed

00:46:493 - Add k note here --> seems monotone this part and needs more variable patterns. added

01:11:332 - Change to k --> have more sound combinated with previous note than next. The note is emphasizing the bass drum sound.

Futsuu

> Finish spinner in 00:02:945- --> the space of a beat between spinner and note (is more guideline than rule). fixed

00:49:396 (98,99) - ctrl+g (?) changed

00:59:719 - Change this note to k --> Same as Kantan. The note is emphasizing the wobble.
01:10:041 - Same same as kantan

Muzukashii

> Finish spinner in 00:02:945- --> Same as Kantan/Futsuu fixed

01:24:719 (319,320) - change for d notes --> is a bit monotone. I think it could be expressed the calm by putting only k.

Oni

> same situation, but here is better. fixed endpoint on spinner

01:24:719 (457,458) - same as Muzukashii. same as oni

Stella

00:05:364 (13,14,15,16) - change this for dddk --> have more bass sound than treble sound. For diversity on 1/6, I'd keep it.

00:15:364 (87,88,89,90,91,92,93) - ddk dddk --> Same situation ^ ^

00:20:928 (131,132) - ctrl+g --> uchuu! I thought that the current pattern is easier to play.

00:31:332 - Change this note to k --> have high sound in vocal. it's making consistency by mapping a pattern similar to 00:10:686 -

00:59:235 (41,45) - ctrl+g (?) keep focusing playability
01:09:557 (143,147) - Same ^

01:20:364 - Change to k --> same clap intentional sound. changed this triplet to ddk

01:24:719 (246,247) - d d --- as above diffs. same

Since Kantan to Oni is good ... 2 stars owo)/** thanks <3

Thank you for modding!

namaniku

43 posts

Joined May 2013

namaniku 2017-08-17T06:08:47+00:00

namaniku wrote:
xtrem3x wrote:
(?)

General:

Don = d
Kat = k
Big Don = D
Big Kat = K

29's

> HP/OD = 6 keep, harder than Oni

00:07:622 (23,24) - ctrl+g keep

00:12:622 (57,58,59,60) - is better with pure d note. keep

00:31:251 - change this note to d --> have more emphasis about next note than 1/6 stream. keep, I think it is fit k note.

00:56:735 (15,16) - ctrl+g --> clap changed

01:01:977 (59,60,61,62,63,64) - change this part for kkkd d k --> clap+consistence with high sounds. ^

01:07:057 (99,100) - ctrl+g --> same as 00:56:735- ^

01:12:299 (145,146,147,148,149,150) - Same as 01:01:977- ^

01:18:590 (180,181) - ctrl+g --> same situation as 00:56:735- ^

01:24:074 (209,210,211,212,213) - change for k d k d d (?) ^

Since Kantan to Oni is good ... 2 stars owo)/**
Thank you!

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

492 posts

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Topic Starter

_yu68 2017-08-17T06:20:48+00:00

updated.

Charlotte

1,905 posts

Joined December 2013

Charlotte 2017-08-17T13:27:28+00:00

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[

about]

d is don note
k is kat note
D is big don note
K is big kat note

[

General]

tagに"namaniku" , "29's"等追加するとよいでしょう。

[

Kantan]

Perfect!

[

Futsuu]

K-F-M間のnotes差がちょっと気になりますが、他はPerfect!です

Kantan 100
Futsuu 187 (+87)
Muzukashii 323 (+136)

[

Muzukashii]

00:23:594 - 削除。休憩挟むほうが良いかと。

00:32:703 - 削除。1/4はdddだけで良いと思いました。

00:59:154 - or 00:59:477 - 削除。1/4-3連を連続させる必要はないように感じます。(部分的に密度が非常に高いように感じます)

01:09:477 - 01:09:799 - ^

[

Oni]

OD6→5.5

OD5.5にして29's Inner OniのODを6にする方が良いと思います。(29's Inner Oni のHPも6.5でもいいかも)

01:17:945 - 01:23:106 - ステラとの差別化で削除してもいいかなと思いました。また 01:18:106 - 次のここに強い音があるので良いと思いました。

29's ステラはおそらくTopで一番自信のあるdiffだと思いますので品質は大丈夫だと既に大丈夫だと思います。もし必要であればIRC等でMod受けると思います。Kantan~Oniも全体的に品質が高くあまり指摘できませんでした。Good luck

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

492 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

_yu68 2017-08-17T14:40:14+00:00

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red=keep

Charlotte wrote:
via game-in chat

[ about]
d is don note
k is kat note
D is big don note
K is big kat note
[ General]

tagに"namaniku" , "29's"等追加するとよいでしょう。 added tag 'namaniku'. 忘れてました生肉さんごめんなさい
[ Kantan]

Perfect!
[ Futsuu]

K-F-M間のnotes差がちょっと気になりますが、他はPerfect!です

Kantan 100
Futsuu 187 (+87)
Muzukashii 323 (+136)

spreadについてはBNに質問してみます

[ Muzukashii]

00:23:594 - 削除。休憩挟むほうが良いかと。 deleted

00:32:703 - 削除。1/4はdddだけで良いと思いました。 deleted

00:59:154 - or 00:59:477 - 削除。1/4-3連を連続させる必要はないように感じます。(部分的に密度が非常に高いように感じます) 後者を削除

01:09:477 - 01:09:799 - ^ ^
[ Oni]

OD6→5.5

OD5.5にして29's Inner OniのODを6にする方が良いと思います。(29's Inner Oni のHPも6.5でもいいかも) この程度の難易度・BPMのOniのODは6が一般的なように思います。Innerもそれに合わせ、それより高くするため6.6を用いています(Stellaとの実質的な難易度も近いため)。HPについても、InnerとStellaでは総ノーツ数に差があるため、同じHP7でも難易度の差異は十分にあると判断しました。

01:17:945 - 01:23:106 - ステラとの差別化で削除してもいいかなと思いました。また 01:18:106 - 次のここに強い音があるので良いと思いました。強い音はk四連→dの流れで十分に強調されているように思います。どちらかと言うと01:18:267 - などのclap(?)を1/1によって強調したいです。。
29's ステラはおそらくTopで一番自信のあるdiffだと思いますので品質は大丈夫だと既に大丈夫だと思います。もし必要であればIRC等でMod受けると思います。Kantan~Oniも全体的に品質が高くあまり指摘できませんでした。Good luck

ありがとうございました！

_Rise

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Joined November 2014

_Rise 2017-08-18T05:35:24+00:00

こんにちは

ところどころ太字になっていますがこれは端的に提案している部分を見やすくするためであって特に深い意味はありません。

Mod

[Stella]

00:14:396 (79,80,81,82,83,84) - Change to d_kdkkd(1/4)? Aメロでは声を中心とした音合わせにしていると感じた( 00:16:816 - ここで鳴っているスネア音が無視されているなど)ので 00:14:557 (80) - ここのバスドラム音は無視してもそれほど違和感は出ないだろうというのと、僕だけかもしれませんがAメロの最初からdkdkkという複合は少し唐突すぎるかなと思いました。00:19:557 (118,119,120,121,122,123) - ここのdkdkkは流れに合っているので変更する必要はないと思います。
01:14:477 (194) - Move to 01:14:799 and Change to d? この譜面はイヤホンなどをしたとき左耳から聞こえているハイハットのような音に合わせて音符を置いている場所が多いようですので(間違っていたらすみません)、だとしたらここもハイハット音に忠実に合わせて行くべきだと思いました。また、こうすることで 01:14:880 (198) にあるkにもよりきれいにつなげることができると感じます。

[29's Inner Oni]

00:54:719 - ここにあるスピナーの終点を 00:54:557 - ここへ移動させるのはいかがでしょうか。曲を聴くと、スピナーを当てるべき音は 00:54:557 - で終わっているということがわかると思います。
01:04:880 - Add d? ここでは小さめではありますがバスドラムの音が鳴っていますし、この音を無視してまで小休憩をはさむ必要はないかなと感じました。
01:07:138 (100) - サビでここだけスネア音をdで拾っているのに少し違和感を感じました。とはいってもここをkにするだけというのはおかしいので、
01:06:654 (94,95,96,97,98,99,100) - ここを ddkkkdk(1/4)にする、または 01:06:493 (93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100) - ここを d_kdkkddk(1/4)にする、というような変更の仕方にするといいかと思います。

[Oni]

00:23:106 (127,128) - Ctrl + G スネア音をkで拾いたいというのと、ここではボーカル音やドラムの音など全体的に音が上がっていっているので譜面もdからkに向かわせたほうが自然かなと思いました。

[Muzukashii]

00:12:783 (45,46) - Ctrl + G うまく表現できませんが 00:12:299 - から音が下がっていき、 00:12:945 - で上がって終わるという感じなので、最後はkdよりdkのほうが音にうまくハマっていると思います。

[Futsuu]

Kantanと合わせて、BPMの高さに対してODが少し低い気がするので、KantanのODを4、FutsuuのODを4.5に引き上げるのはいかがでしょうか。

[Kantan]

Futsuuと合わせて、BPMの高さに対してODが少し低い気がするので、KantanのODを4、FutsuuのODを4.5に引き上げるのはいかがでしょうか。
00:51:654 - Add k? パターン重視でいくならば、 00:46:493 (53) - ここに音符があるということを考えると、 00:51:654 -ここにもkを置くべきだと思います。

全体的に非常に完成度が高いので指摘するべきところがあまり見つかりませんでした…
ランクド頑張ってください！

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

492 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

_yu68 2017-08-18T07:42:41+00:00

blue=change
red=keep

_Rise wrote:
こんにちは

ところどころ太字になっていますがこれは端的に提案している部分を見やすくするためであって特に深い意味はありません。
Mod
[Stella]
00:14:396 (79,80,81,82,83,84) - Change to d_kdkkd(1/4)? Aメロでは声を中心とした音合わせにしていると感じた( 00:16:816 - ここで鳴っているスネア音が無視されているなど)ので 00:14:557 (80) - ここのバスドラム音は無視してもそれほど違和感は出ないだろうというのと、僕だけかもしれませんがAメロの最初からdkdkkという複合は少し唐突すぎるかなと思いました。00:19:557 (118,119,120,121,122,123) - ここのdkdkkは流れに合っているので変更する必要はないと思います。このdkdkkはdの音でそれとなくボーカルを追うようにマップしているつもりです。同じバスドラムを刻みながらだんだん広がっていくような曲の展開を大切にしたいという意図もありdを置いてあります。また、00:16:816 - に関してもボーカル合わせだけでなく、スネアを拾うことで発生する「リズムが若干平坦になるような感覚」を取り除くという目的も含んでいます。dkdkkの唐突さについても、Aメロ直前に1/6がうじゃうじゃある部分で多くのプレイヤーは譜面の難易度を察知できると思うので問題ないように感じます。
01:14:477 (194) - Move to 01:14:799 and Change to d? この譜面はイヤホンなどをしたとき左耳から聞こえているハイハットのような音に合わせて音符を置いている場所が多いようですので(間違っていたらすみません)、だとしたらここもハイハット音に忠実に合わせて行くべきだと思いました。また、こうすることで 01:14:880 (198) にあるkにもよりきれいにつなげることができると感じます。 01:13:912 (187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197) - これらを1/2単発を空けずに通すことで01:14:880 (198) - の1/2単発を際立たせ、次のパートへ繋がる展開を作れているように思います。

[Oni]
00:23:106 (127,128) - Ctrl + G スネア音をkで拾いたいというのと、ここではボーカル音やドラムの音など全体的に音が上がっていっているので譜面もdからkに向かわせたほうが自然かなと思いました。 changed
[Muzukashii]
00:12:783 (45,46) - Ctrl + G うまく表現できませんが 00:12:299 - から音が下がっていき、 00:12:945 - で上がって終わるという感じなので、最後はkdよりdkのほうが音にうまくハマっていると思います。音程・clapの両方に合っていてgoodです changed
[Futsuu]
Kantanと合わせて、BPMの高さに対してODが少し低い気がするので、KantanのODを4、FutsuuのODを4.5に引き上げるのはいかがでしょうか。 changed
[Kantan]
Futsuuと合わせて、BPMの高さに対してODが少し低い気がするので、KantanのODを4、FutsuuのODを4.5に引き上げるのはいかがでしょうか。 changed
00:51:654 - Add k? パターン重視でいくならば、 00:46:493 (53) - ここに音符があるということを考えると、 00:51:654 -ここにもkを置くべきだと思います。 added
全体的に非常に完成度が高いので指摘するべきところがあまり見つかりませんでした…
ランクド頑張ってください！

modありがとうございました！

namaniku

43 posts

Joined May 2013

namaniku 2017-08-18T10:17:51+00:00

namaniku wrote:
_Rise wrote:
こんにちは

ところどころ太字になっていますがこれは端的に提案している部分を見やすくするためであって特に深い意味はありません。
Mod
[29's Inner Oni]
00:54:719 - ここにあるスピナーの終点を 00:54:557 - ここへ移動させるのはいかがでしょうか。曲を聴くと、スピナーを当てるべき音は 00:54:557 - で終わっているということがわかると思います。 moved
01:04:880 - Add d? ここでは小さめではありますがバスドラムの音が鳴っていますし、この音を無視してまで小休憩をはさむ必要はないかなと感じました。バスドラムの音を目立たせる効果があるのと、ここにノーツを置くと違和感がありました(個人的に)
01:07:138 (100) - サビでここだけスネア音をdで拾っているのに少し違和感を感じました。とはいってもここをkにするだけというのはおかしいので、
01:06:654 (94,95,96,97,98,99,100) - ここを ddkkkdk(1/4)にする、または 01:06:493 (93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100) - ここを d_kdkkddk(1/4)にする、というような変更の仕方にするといいかと思います。前者でchanged
全体的に非常に完成度が高いので指摘するべきところがあまり見つかりませんでした…
ランクド頑張ってください！

ありがとうございました！

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Chromoxx

904 posts

Joined August 2012

Chromoxx 2017-08-21T03:16:17+00:00

hey, m4m

[Stella]
how is this 6*....
- maybe raise OD to 7 for better scaling from oni > inner > stella
00:34:396 - this SV change causes a very awkward overlap, i would very highly reccomend making it a bit smoother so that the notes don't overlap eachother anymore

looks good otherwise

[29]
00:34:396 - the overlap caused by this SV change is very awkward again, the notes at 00:34:719 (232,233) - are completely covered up for over a second
- looks good otherwise

[Oni]
00:39:074 (211,212) - maybe ctrl G these, since 00:39:396 - is a noticably high pitch

very clean diff

[Muzukashii]
01:04:719 (229,230) - maybe delete this for a slight break and a bit more emphasis on 01:05:203 -
very clean diff again

[Futsuu]
00:03:267 - to 00:34:235 - there are no 4/1 breaks, i would suggest adding at least one in since it's a more calm part and it would give the player some time to rest inbetween patterns
00:38:751 (88,89) - ctrl G, since the pitch goes up here
00:38:751 (88,89) - i'd suggest at least adding a note here, since it kinda ends unnaturally otherwise

kiai is mapped a bit strangely imo but it's interesting and works well

[Kantan]
00:54:880 (1,2,3) - the contrast between notes like these and parts like 00:57:461 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - is a bit too high, since the song is just as intense for both of the highlighted sections, i would suggest switching to a slightly more normal break structure (i.e. having the 4/1 breaks at 01:03:912 - and adding some more notes inbetween 00:54:880 (1,2,3) - )

very nice set in total, good luck!

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

492 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

_yu68 2017-08-21T05:16:39+00:00

Chromoxx can talk in Japanese so I would reply in Japanese.

blue=change
red=keep

Chromoxx wrote:
hey, m4m

[Stella]
how is this 6*....
- maybe raise OD to 7 for better scaling from oni > inner > stella Inner Oniと難易度が近いので6.6を維持します。
00:34:396 - this SV change causes a very awkward overlap, i would very highly reccomend making it a bit smoother so that the notes don't overlap eachother anymore 滑らかなSV変化やx0.75のSVでは、曲の流れを十分に表現できないと思います。playabilityを重視することは大事なことなのでとても悩みましたが、このdiffにおいては曲を表現することを重視したいです。

looks good otherwise

[Oni]
00:39:074 (211,212) - maybe ctrl G these, since 00:39:396 - is a noticably high pitch swapped 00:38:428 (209,210,211,212,213,214) -

very clean diff

[Muzukashii]
01:04:719 (229,230) - maybe delete this for a slight break and a bit more emphasis on 01:05:203 - deleted
very clean diff again

[Futsuu]
00:03:267 - to 00:34:235 - there are no 4/1 breaks, i would suggest adding at least one in since it's a more calm part and it would give the player some time to rest inbetween patterns Futsuuのbreakは3/1でも十分だと思います。deleted 00:04:880 - 00:10:041 - 00:25:525 - and 00:30:686 -
00:38:751 (88,89) - ctrl G, since the pitch goes up here changed
00:38:751 (88,89) - i'd suggest at least adding a note here, since it kinda ends unnaturally otherwise code wrong? keep for now

kiai is mapped a bit strangely imo but it's interesting and works well vocalをfollowしたつもりです:3

[Kantan]
00:54:880 (1,2,3) - the contrast between notes like these and parts like 00:57:461 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - is a bit too high, since the song is just as intense for both of the highlighted sections, i would suggest switching to a slightly more normal break structure (i.e. having the 4/1 breaks at 01:03:912 - and adding some more notes inbetween 00:54:880 (1,2,3) - ) added notes to 00:55:525 - and 01:05:848 -

very nice set in total, good luck!

ありがとうございました！

namaniku

43 posts

Joined May 2013

namaniku 2017-08-21T08:06:21+00:00

namaniku wrote:
Chromoxx wrote:
hey, m4m

[29]
00:34:396 - the overlap caused by this SV change is very awkward again, the notes at 00:34:719 (232,233) - are completely covered up for over a second
- looks good otherwise SVchangeはStellaと統一する為keepします

very nice set in total, good luck!

ありがとうございました！

tasuke912

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2018

1,347 posts

Joined June 2013

tasuke912 2017-09-08T13:40:04+00:00

[

General]

卍BPM93じゃね？卍
InnerのOD被ってるけどそのままでOKですか？

[

Kantan]

01:05:848 (20,21) - ここだけ反転させる意図が分かりませんでした

[

Inner Oni]

キックの配色はdで一貫させた方がより曲の音圧の強さを引き立てられます 00:14:557 (75) - 00:19:719 (113) - 00:21:332 (125) -
00:22:622 (138,139,140) - 場違い感が否めないです偶数を焼き払いたい

[

ユムヤのまほう]

00:16:816 - 00:21:977 - 空白はここじゃない方が良いかなあ

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

492 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

_yu68 2017-09-08T23:39:40+00:00

blue=change
red=keep

tasuke912 wrote:
[ General]
卍BPM93じゃね？卍僕も思いました！が、小節線とスクロール速度によるリーダビリティを重視して倍取りしています
InnerのOD被ってるけどそのままでOKですか？意図的なものなので大丈夫です
[ Kantan]
01:05:848 (20,21) - ここだけ反転させる意図が分かりませんでした配色を統一しました
[ ~~ユムヤ~~ステラのまほう]
00:16:816 - 00:21:977 - 空白はここじゃない方が良いかなあイントロとの一貫性を考慮し、休符を00:16:493 - 00:21:654 - へ移動しました

+ついでにサビ前のsliderをspinnerに置き換えました

Thank you for modding!

namaniku

43 posts

Joined May 2013

namaniku 2017-09-09T02:31:56+00:00

namaniku wrote:
tasuke912 wrote:
[ Inner Oni]
キックの配色はdで一貫させた方がより曲の音圧の強さを引き立てられます 00:14:557 (75) - 00:19:719 (113) - 00:21:332 (125) - all changed／加えて五連の配色も少し変更しました
00:22:622 (138,139,140) - 場違い感が否めないです偶数を焼き払いたい Voのfollowと演奏感を重視しているつもりです

ありがとうございました！

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tasuke912

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2018

1,347 posts

Joined June 2013

tasuke912 2017-09-09T18:08:10+00:00

Nice Map. Bubbled!

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

492 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

_yu68 2017-09-09T22:18:09+00:00

tasuke912 wrote:
Nice Map. Bubbled!

ありがとうございます！

Chromoxx

904 posts

Joined August 2012

Chromoxx 2017-09-10T11:55:49+00:00

hey!
sorry but i'm popping this due to the overlap in the stella/inner oni difficulties at 00:34:396 - that i mentioned in my previous mod.

the music does justify a slower SV but an overlap this big is not acceptable whatsoever in my opinion. I would suggest raising the SV in that part so that the overlap doesn't exist anymore or you can lower it gradually from 00:34:396 - until it becomes 0.5

either way i do not see this as acceptable and this will stand as a veto until it is fixed.

if you decide to fix this you can call me back for a rebubble though because the set is very nice overall!

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

492 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

_yu68 2017-09-10T12:26:10+00:00

Chromoxx wrote:
hey!
sorry but i'm popping this due to the overlap in the stella/inner oni difficulties at 00:34:396 - that i mentioned in my previous mod.

the music does justify a slower SV but an overlap this big is not acceptable whatsoever in my opinion. I would suggest raising the SV in that part so that the overlap doesn't exist anymore or you can lower it gradually from 00:34:396 - until it becomes 0.5

either way i do not see this as acceptable and this will stand as a veto until it is fixed.

if you decide to fix this you can call me back for a rebubble though because the set is very nice overall!

Nerfed the SV on Inner Oni and Stella with agreement by namaniku. (SVx0.50 -> SVx0.75)
Thanks!

Chromoxx

904 posts

Joined August 2012

Chromoxx 2017-09-10T12:43:16+00:00

recheck

Stella
- good

Inner Oni
01:02:864 - add a d here to be consistent with 00:57:703 - 01:08:025 - 01:13:186 -

Oni
00:39:074 - delete this note for consistency with 00:36:493 - 00:41:654 -
00:46:816 - maybe change to d for contrast with 00:49:396 -

Muzukashii
00:03:267 - to 00:34:235 - i would suggest nerfing this part a bit since at the moment it's kinda more intense than the kiai

Futsuu
looks good

Kantan
looks good

call me back :p

namaniku

43 posts

Joined May 2013

namaniku 2017-09-10T12:52:39+00:00

namaniku wrote:
Chromoxx wrote:
recheck

Inner Oni
01:02:864 - add a d here to be consistent with 00:57:703 - 01:08:025 - 01:13:186 - added

call me back :p

Thanks recheck!

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_yu68

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_yu68 2017-09-10T12:55:01+00:00

Chromoxx wrote:
recheck

Oni
00:39:074 - delete this note for consistency with 00:36:493 - 00:41:654 - deleted
00:46:816 - maybe change to d for contrast with 00:49:396 - instead changed 00:49:074 (239) - to d

Muzukashii
00:03:267 - to 00:34:235 - i would suggest nerfing this part a bit since at the moment it's kinda more intense than the kiai
deleted these:
00:12:138 -
00:16:009 -
00:19:235 -
00:21:170 -
00:22:461 -
00:32:783 -
call me back :p

thanks again :3

Chromoxx

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Chromoxx 2017-09-10T13:03:07+00:00

alright, this looks good.. bubbled!

Arrival

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Arrival 2017-09-11T15:44:00+00:00

oni

01:04:961 - maybe add a d to emhasize here ?

29

01:02:541 - 01:12:864 - maybe add k at these places to be consistent with your structure ?

inner oni

01:04:961 - same thing as oni i guess

namaniku

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namaniku 2017-09-11T21:55:47+00:00

namaniku wrote:
Arrival wrote:
29

01:02:541 - 01:12:864 - maybe add k at these places to be consistent with your structure ? added

inner oni

01:04:961 - same thing as oni i guess added similar notes to Oni&Stella

Thanks!

_yu68

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_yu68 2017-09-11T22:34:36+00:00

blue=change
red=keep

Arrival wrote:
oni

01:04:961 - maybe add a d to emhasize here ? I think that there is no need to emphasize here because the accent is in 01:04:557 (96) - and 01:05:203 (101) -

inner oni stella?

01:04:961 - same thing as oni i guess same reason

Thank you for modding <3

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