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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2020年1月11日 at 16:44:08

Artist: RAMM ni Haiyoru Tamao-san
Title: Kirai na Wake Lychee (TV Size)
Source: 這いよれ!ニャル子さんW
Tags: 大坪由佳 japanese anime ending Pata-Mon Imouto koko Another Crawling Chaos Haiyore! Nyaruko-san W
BPM: 150
Filesize: 14758kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (3.12 stars, 229 notes)
  2. Insane (4.27 stars, 312 notes)
  3. koko's Light Insane (3.96 stars, 324 notes)
  4. Normal (1.89 stars, 149 notes)
  5. Pata-Mon's Insane (4.57 stars, 326 notes)


Download: RAMM ni Haiyoru Tamao-san - Kirai na Wake Lychee (TV Size)
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https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/1098288#osu/2294683;雷米的牛逼Ex

咚狗咚狗咚狗咚狗咚狗咚狗咚狗咚狗咚狗咚狗咚狗咚狗 碎 兔 汪 他妈狗!
Normal by me
Hard by me
Imouto's Light Insane by Imouto koko
Insane by me
Pata-Mon's Insane by Pata-Mon
Imouto koko
哇我居然是第一个,敲开心

2017-07-16 21:27 Imouto OuO: 开头那个要是有想法感觉还是换个思路
2017-07-16 21:27 Imouto OuO: 不过上次说过了这次pass啦
2017-07-16 21:27 papapa213: emmmm我给忘了这茬
2017-07-16 21:28 Imouto OuO: 00:15:800 (1,2,3,4) - 这个可以分别ctrl g一下然后换换顺序会好玩一点
2017-07-16 21:28 papapa213: 啧
2017-07-16 21:28 papapa213: 那这样的话
2017-07-16 21:29 Imouto OuO: 00:19:000 (1,2,3,4) - 然后这个可以每个滑条向外翻一下
2017-07-16 21:29 papapa213: 前面那个也得改
2017-07-16 21:29 Imouto OuO: 不啊
2017-07-16 21:29 papapa213: 这是换转向的问题
2017-07-16 21:29 Imouto OuO: 就是三个不一样才好玩
2017-07-16 21:29 Imouto OuO: 咦
2017-07-16 21:29 Imouto OuO: 你现在三个不是一样的么
2017-07-16 21:30 Imouto OuO: 00:31:200 (2,3) - 这个打的时候看起来有点怪
2017-07-16 21:30 papapa213: 恶魔,我是说前面的六个1/2条子的转向和后面三个1/4的转向要相反
2017-07-16 21:30 Imouto OuO: 喔喔对
2017-07-16 21:30 Imouto OuO: 那个可以调整一下
2017-07-16 21:30 Imouto OuO: 顺flow就好
2017-07-16 21:30 papapa213: 这他妈是大改啊 哭了
2017-07-16 21:30 Imouto OuO: 。。小改啊
2017-07-16 21:30 Imouto OuO: 局部改动啦
2017-07-16 21:31 Imouto OuO: 00:33:600 (1,2,3,4) - 这个虽然能玩但是稍微有点。。画风突变?
2017-07-16 21:31 papapa213: 哎 算了 我回头再想吧
2017-07-16 21:31 papapa213: 这段实在是
2017-07-16 21:31 papapa213: 回头再问问别人吧;w;
2017-07-16 21:31 Imouto OuO: 嗯嗯
2017-07-16 21:31 papapa213: 想不出好主意
2017-07-16 21:37 Imouto OuO: 。
2017-07-16 21:37 Imouto OuO: 咕了一会
2017-07-16 21:37 Imouto OuO: 选图群说了点事
2017-07-16 21:38 Imouto OuO: 00:34:000 (4,5,6,7) -
2017-07-16 21:38 Imouto OuO: 这个我也倾向于换一种排列
2017-07-16 21:38 papapa213: sad
2017-07-16 21:38 Imouto OuO: 比如几个圆弧,而且也不一定要凑这么近
2017-07-16 21:38 Imouto OuO: 这样感觉风格比较偏老,排列看着不够整洁
2017-07-16 21:39 papapa213: 目瞪口呆
2017-07-16 21:39 Imouto OuO: 我随便说个想法啊
2017-07-16 21:39 Imouto OuO: 比如物件分开是二分拍
2017-07-16 21:39 Imouto OuO: 这里可以让物件重合一部分,来表示这是四分拍间距
2017-07-16 21:39 Imouto OuO: 但是击打点可以分开
2017-07-16 21:40 papapa213: 听...听不懂
2017-07-16 21:40 Imouto OuO: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8605002
2017-07-16 21:41 Imouto OuO: 随手摆的
2017-07-16 21:41 Imouto OuO: 意思一下,具体怎么摆flow还是看你
2017-07-16 21:41 papapa213: lwl我先保留这里吧
2017-07-16 21:41 papapa213: 我觉得这样省空间
2017-07-16 21:41 Imouto OuO: 。
2017-07-16 21:41 Imouto OuO: 好
2017-07-16 21:42 Imouto OuO: 喔就算你这样摆
2017-07-16 21:42 Imouto OuO: 我觉得也可以普通的换成滑条尾重叠,原因是这里的重音很强,没跳有点可惜
2017-07-16 21:44 papapa213: 我的理解是
2017-07-16 21:44 papapa213: 重音可以用趋势来强调
2017-07-16 21:44 papapa213: 不一定非得用距离
2017-07-16 21:44 papapa213: 00:34:800 (7) - 所以这里的滑条速度很快 强调的这个音
2017-07-16 21:45 Imouto OuO: 喔,那么
2017-07-16 21:45 Imouto OuO: 变sv要nc
2017-07-16 21:45 Imouto OuO: (正好看到这个
2017-07-16 21:45 papapa213: 噗嗤
2017-07-16 21:45 Imouto OuO: 虽然我觉得这个趋势还是不太够程度
2017-07-16 21:45 Imouto OuO: 不过还是看你啦
2017-07-16 21:48 Imouto OuO: 00:06:000 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2017-07-16 21:48 Imouto OuO: overmap了吧 这里是1+3
2017-07-16 21:49 papapa213: 好像
2017-07-16 21:49 papapa213: 是1+7
2017-07-16 21:49 Imouto OuO: 。
2017-07-16 21:49 Imouto OuO: 是
2017-07-16 21:49 Imouto OuO: 没往下听
2017-07-16 21:49 Imouto OuO: 00:09:400 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -
2017-07-16 21:49 Imouto OuO: 这个是1+5
2017-07-16 21:50 papapa213: 好好好
2017-07-16 21:54 papapa213: 还行,做个图能让一摩托憋这么半天,说明水平有长进
2017-07-16 21:55 Imouto OuO: 。。
2017-07-16 21:55 Imouto OuO: 犹豫了一下要不要说真相
2017-07-16 21:55 papapa213: 去群里了
2017-07-16 21:55 Imouto OuO: 不过的确是挺好啊 这种图我喜欢
2017-07-16 21:55 Imouto OuO: 因为我1pc fc了
2017-07-16 21:55 papapa213: 被麻麻交出去了
2017-07-16 21:55 papapa213: 因为你1pcfc了
2017-07-16 21:55 Imouto OuO: 其实是笨笨在私戳我问问题
2017-07-16 21:56 papapa213: 一摩托今天内裤的颜色是什么
2017-07-16 21:56 Imouto OuO: 00:22:000 (4,5,6,7,8) -
2017-07-16 21:56 Imouto OuO: 这个也是
2017-07-16 21:57 papapa213: 咦
2017-07-16 21:57 papapa213: 这里
2017-07-16 21:57 papapa213: 我当时好像想的是故意overmap
2017-07-16 21:57 Imouto OuO: 00:25:600 (4,5,1) - 这个我建议弄个跳
2017-07-16 21:57 papapa213: 是不是啊 我忘了
2017-07-16 21:57 papapa213: 你怎么这么喜欢跳(
2017-07-16 21:58 papapa213: 感觉不太激烈 不跳了吧;w;
2017-07-16 21:58 Imouto OuO: 我想想
2017-07-16 21:58 Imouto OuO: 应该说我觉得我的图下的跳都是有节奏才肯跳。。
2017-07-16 21:58 Imouto OuO: 没节奏随便跳就觉得很糊弄
2017-07-16 21:59 Imouto OuO: 所以能跳来表现的地方我都会去想做个flow来显示节奏
2017-07-16 21:59 Imouto OuO: 喔不过你这里3的结尾是有节奏的,要跳也得换节奏 看你吧
2017-07-16 22:00 Imouto OuO: 另外这里要是弄跳的话我倾向于多边形钝角那种
2017-07-16 22:00 papapa213: 00:27:600 (1) - 是不是有点太近了
2017-07-16 22:01 Imouto OuO: 。。00:31:800 (4,5,6,7) - 你这里不就是多边形钝角
2017-07-16 22:01 Imouto OuO: 前面就不是
2017-07-16 22:01 Imouto OuO: 这属于节奏不统一了
2017-07-16 22:01 Imouto OuO: 。。这个我的看法是无所谓
2017-07-16 22:01 papapa213: 。。
2017-07-16 22:01 Imouto OuO: 超过AR8.5我就觉得没必要非得在一分拍上ds
2017-07-16 22:02 papapa213: 主要这距离有点尴尬
2017-07-16 22:02 papapa213: 再近点再远点感觉都行
2017-07-16 22:02 Imouto OuO: 这个看你,是我我就先不改,有人找茬再说
2017-07-16 22:02 Imouto OuO: 是啊,都行
2017-07-16 22:02 Imouto OuO: 所以为啥要改。。
2017-07-16 22:03 papapa213: 但是这个距离就有点难受
2017-07-16 22:03 papapa213: 我自己再看看吧
2017-07-16 22:03 papapa213: sad
2017-07-16 22:04 Imouto OuO: 01:20:400 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - 这个也overmap了 打起来我觉得属于不怎么舒服的那种
2017-07-16 22:04 Imouto OuO: 01:28:000 (8) - 我猜nc了好看一点(咳
2017-07-16 22:04 Imouto OuO: 好了差不多就这样)
2017-07-16 22:04 papapa213: 这里哪有overmap
2017-07-16 22:05 papapa213: 这个哪里overmap了啊
2017-07-16 22:05 Imouto OuO: 我仔细听了一下
2017-07-16 22:05 Imouto OuO: 好像没overmap
2017-07-16 22:05 papapa213: 好像没overmap
2017-07-16 22:05 Imouto OuO: 但是鼓点重音太强了
2017-07-16 22:05 Imouto OuO: 听不太清那个蓝线节奏
2017-07-16 22:05 papapa213: 好
2017-07-16 22:05 Imouto OuO: 所以打着就不太舒服
2017-07-16 22:06 papapa213: 那我加个音效
2017-07-16 22:06 Imouto OuO: 01:20:400 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3) -
2017-07-16 22:06 Imouto OuO: 喔我懂了
2017-07-16 22:06 papapa213: 哦你懂了
2017-07-16 22:06 Imouto OuO: 01:21:200 (1,2) - 这个你是漏音了吧
2017-07-16 22:06 Imouto OuO: 这里鼓点明显比前面强
2017-07-16 22:07 Imouto OuO: 但是你跟了前面的没跟后面的
2017-07-16 22:07 Imouto OuO: 所以我倾向于4短滑+5连滑条这样的
2017-07-16 22:08 papapa213: 好想法
2017-07-16 22:08 papapa213: 改了
2017-07-16 22:09 Imouto OuO: 那就这样啦
2017-07-16 22:09 papapa213: 好
2017-07-16 22:09 papapa213: 你去骗豆
2017-07-16 22:09 Imouto OuO: 好啊好
2017-07-16 22:09 papapa213: 坏哦坏

能fc就很开心,papapa加油 :)
Ametrin
as request

不太适应你的flow……感觉只能强行摸加上我实在不喜欢这曲子orz

[Insane]
00:04:400 (3) - 这个其实也可以叠 后面两个note改改就好
00:06:400 (2) - NC这个
00:09:400 (1) - 我是觉得没必要NC...
你的NC我有点看不懂啊 你觉得ok其实也还好?
00:25:400 - insane里这种可以clickable
00:29:100 - 漏音了
00:31:400 (3) - 两个强音建议放跳?

[Hard]
00:31:400 (3) - 强迫症
00:22:800 (1,1,2) - 为啥不和后面一致 感觉00:24:400 (1,2) - 就很怪
00:29:100 - 反正都放了这么多三连了 这个干嘛不填上
00:30:000 (3) - 不反过来么
00:34:000 (3,4) - 节奏不对 你再听听
00:56:400 (4) - 你这个NC就真的要报警了


[Normal]
00:03:600 (1,1,1) - 其实1/2拍没有很强 感觉没必要塞爆
00:30:600 (4) - 可以删掉?
00:45:800 (2,1) - 没必要变节奏 一个滑条拉过来就好
00:49:600 (1) - 你为啥这么喜欢把这个音放滑条尾
00:51:800 (1,2,3) - 你要跟vocal就跟到底啊 这里感觉突然空了一拍

[Easy]
可以 震撼1/2塞爆
其实没必要啊 像00:19:600 (1,2,1) - 一个折返就糊过去了

有点水 算了就这样吧我最近实在没兴趣摸图qwq
Pata-Mon
请把主难度的e改成大写
Pata-Mon
看不下去.jpg

[General]
  1. kiai的clap音效好难听
  2. nc很多都很乱懒得具体说了,每个难度自己想好按照一个逻辑重新看一遍,低难度没事别乱多加nc,没用


[Easy]
  1. ds太小了会显得很挤很难看,而且我个人不太建议用1以下的ds,滑条速度比物件之间还快.个人的推荐是0.9sv 1ds.不过整体看着排列还能rank 懒得改就算了
  2. 音效跟没有一样,非常缺乏feedback.低难度绝大部分物件上都有音效是很正常的
  3. 00:19:600 (1,2,1,2) - 首先,00:19:600 (1,2) - 和00:21:000 (1,2) - 用一样的节奏比较好,其次,00:19:600 (1,2) - 这个节奏型是ok的,但是00:21:000 (1,2) - 这个就不好,因为00:21:600 - 这个音要比00:21:400 - 这个音重,所以可行的有两种:
    1:https://puu.sh/wUpPg/06e99a2840.png
    2:https://puu.sh/wUpRh/40547fa67c.png
    另外还有很重要一点,这个地方和00:59:600 (1,1) - 以及01:12:400 (1,1) - 01:25:200 (1,1) - 也是一样的,所以你选用一种节奏之后把后三个地方也一起换掉.不过01:02:400 - 和01:15:200 - 这两个地方有音,你可以选择把1中的最后一个滑条加一次折返,或是把2中的最后一个note换成1/1滑条,但不建议在这两个地方放note.
  4. 00:46:800 (1,1) - ez里滑条后面要空一小节
  5. kiai全都1/1塞爆只能说,能rank.但是显然是有更好的下法的,比如00:50:800 - 00:54:000 - 00:57:200 - ……这类地方,用3/2折返滑条,折返点压到00:51:400 - 这种重音.反正ez里3/2滑条是个非常好用的东西
  6. 01:01:000 (1) - 同样可以结束在01:01:600 - ,然后01:02:000 - 这里可以直接放1/1
  7. 01:11:000 (1) - 如果一定要这么下节奏的话,这种地方加一个明显音效盖过原曲更明显的那些鼓会舒服不少.我个人还是更喜欢用前面提到过的把01:10:000 (2) - 加一次折返


[Normal]
  1. 你这难度timing忘改了,红线错了两拍
  2. 音效同上
  3. 00:03:600 (1,1,1) - 低难度最好不要用多次折返.这里跟go到底就很好
  4. 00:13:200 - 00:16:400 - 这两个个地方建议加一个note,相当于两句话之间的地方.00:12:400 - 00:18:800 - 这两处也是建议加一个,因为有特殊音
  5. 00:29:200 (1) - 碰血条了,往下点
  6. 00:29:800 (2,3) - 这排列吃屎,别这么摆
  7. 00:30:000 (3,1) - ds不对
  8. 00:34:000 (1,2) - 明显用一个3/4的折返滑条更好.如果有必要的话,不用在意折返点或者滑条尾这种不用点击的地方压在蓝线
  9. 00:34:800 (3,4) - 完全没必要塞爆,用一个1/1滑条即可
  10. 00:46:600 (1,1) - nm里转盘后至少空两拍
  11. 00:51:800 (1,2,3) - 跟轨很怪,如果跟vocal最好的办法是00:51:800 - 这里用1/2折返滑条,00:52:400 - 这里用1/1滑条,00:53:000 - 这里空着,00:53:200 - 这里用note或者是1/1滑条
  12. 00:55:000 (1,2,3) - 01:04:600 (1,2,3) - 01:07:800 (1,2,3) - 同上.低难度不能全跟,无规律乱切轨是大忌
  13. 01:09:200 (1,2,3) - 01:10:000 (1,2,3,4) - 有点难了,前者用1/2折返,后者用两个1/2,然后01:10:800 - 这里空着足矣
  14. 01:11:000 (1,2) - 这里也是跟vocal吧
  15. 01:18:000 - 01:24:400 - 跟前面go一样,建议加note


[Hard]
  1. 00:25:200 (2,2) - 你猜这种地方大家会注意到这里stack了很整齐还是看到你00:25:200 (2,1) - 这里overlap了很难看?
  2. 00:22:800 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 这些变速段其实可以加ds把1/2gap的物件拉开比较好.
  3. 00:26:800 (2) - 为什么突然换成3/2?前面类似的可都是1/1,包括00:24:200 - 这里同样有人声你也用的1/1.保持一致
  4. 00:31:600 (1,2) - 无理的跳
  5. 00:33:200 (4,1,2,3) - 有点远,加上你的nc下法很容易让人读成1/1gap
  6. 00:44:200 (3,1) - 难看.整个难度类似的其实很多,显得就不太干净
  7. 00:50:000 - 前两个难度因为本来就要改转盘我就没说,这里就得说你为啥把这音放在滑条尾?要是说没vocal就算了,但无论是鼓还是vocal都是这里重音进kiai
  8. 00:51:200 (5,1) - 节奏ctrl+G下会更能表现vocal也更有趣.00:51:600 - 这种根本不算重音的大白线你怎么用了clickable反倒刚才进kiai那里不用呢
  9. 00:57:600 (6,1) - ^
  10. 00:58:200 (2,3) - 00:59:200 (4,1) - 跳太大了
  11. 01:02:800 - 说过
  12. 01:05:200 (1,2,3,4) - 你就用俩滑条好不好 根本不是什么值得强调的,而且关键是现在hard太难了,就因为这些,还有后面的01:08:400 (1,2,3,4) - .
  13. go那里不再说了


[一米四]
  1. 没音效.不过别直接复制啪啪啪的(
  2. 00:00:400 (2) - nc
  3. 00:05:800 (4,6) - 自动堆叠后会碰到,很难看.这种小ds情况下特别明显
  4. 00:08:800 (2,3) - 用滑条比较好吧
  5. 00:09:500 - 这里的连打也很明显 不该空
  6. 00:10:000 - 所有这些gogogo的部分,你可以试一下全都滑条头放go上,我还是觉得那样会好很多
  7. 00:19:800 - 这种音很明显.其实前面00:09:000 - 这个就是类似的,那里你就跟了,当然我建议这种地方全部用滑条尾,就是把00:19:600 (1) - 换成滑条
  8. 00:30:700 (5) - 不是很有必要的overmap
  9. 00:36:200 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这两处用一样的三连不好,前一个三连轻到几乎可以不跟,实际上你后面也没再跟,直接用一个1/2滑条最好,跟后面重鼓点的三连对比也会效果好得多
  10. 00:42:400 (4,5,6) - 这样跳就比较难受,重音在5,6很轻.00:44:000 (4,5,6) - 也是
  11. 00:51:600 (1) - 谜之跟轨
  12. 00:54:200 (4,5,1) - hmm……kiai也不多说了,感觉这节奏太随心所欲了.就算你说要突出人声,那00:58:000 (1) - 这种也都跟了,反正我完全没找到你节奏的逻辑……
  13. 然后滑条形状总体有点难看,像00:30:000 (3) - 这样单独看着就不太好看,而且没有配合.其实00:29:200 (1,3) - 这种前后相关的一组音都简单做对称效果就很好.很多多锚点滑条都扭得很奇怪,我是觉得效果不太好
  14. 跳有些地方也有点随意.00:05:200 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这种跳就比较漂亮,除了因为ds太近导致自动堆叠碰到以外.00:08:800 (2,3,4,5,6) - 这种也还好,姑且能看出你想摆六边形,但是摆得太歪了,这类最好是摆出一个正三角形之后复制粘贴,确定坐标.00:58:000 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - 这种就有点难看了,除了234是ds之外基本感觉是乱的.
    除了注重几何意外,也要注意一下整体跳给人的空间感吧,就是你可以试试不注重几何随手摆摆,看看怎样的跳是看着大气舒服的,找找感觉可能对你摆几何跳也会有帮助
  15. 然后跳的ds也有一些问题,一个是类似的地方你有的强调了有的没强调,再有就是像前面提到的00:42:400 (4,5,6) - 这类重音位置不对的情况也不少.

    目前这样子的话我觉得rank会比较吃力,可能要大改下吧


[Insane]
  1. 00:50:000 - .
  2. 01:10:600 (4,2) - 01:11:600 (1,1) - 这类细节吧,不多挑了
  3. 总体我是觉得不错的


[雷米]
  1. 我是觉得overdone了.最主要的,00:09:600 (5,6,7,8) - 这种鼓点的大间距连打我觉得是合适的,没问题,然后你00:11:600 (1,2,3) - 这种比较轻的背景旋律也用同样ds是不是就不太合适?这种note其实直接叠到后面滑条头上就很好,相对地,00:12:400 (1,2,3) - 这里依然保持大间距,这才能突出重点对不对.试试按照这个思路大改一下,或许能成为一张不错的图


GL
Imouto koko

Pata-Mon wrote:

[一米四]
  1. 没音效.不过别直接复制啪啪啪的( 补了。
  2. 00:00:400 (2) - nc 改了。
  3. 00:05:800 (4,6) - 自动堆叠后会碰到,很难看.这种小ds情况下特别明显 改了。
  4. 00:08:800 (2,3) - 用滑条比较好吧 改了。
  5. 00:09:500 - 这里的连打也很明显 不该空 感觉和后面比还是差的有点多。
  6. 00:10:000 - 所有这些gogogo的部分,你可以试一下全都滑条头放go上,我还是觉得那样会好很多 这个实在不打算改……
  7. 00:19:800 - 这种音很明显.其实前面00:09:000 - 这个就是类似的,那里你就跟了,当然我建议这种地方全部用滑条尾,就是把00:19:600 (1) - 换成滑条 的确试过,个人感觉有点难听,想跟的轨强调不出来。
  8. 00:30:700 (5) - 不是很有必要的overmap 仔细听了一下没有overmap。
  9. 00:36:200 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这两处用一样的三连不好,前一个三连轻到几乎可以不跟,实际上你后面也没再跟,直接用一个1/2滑条最好,跟后面重鼓点的三连对比也会效果好得多 有道理,我想想怎么改,换成个折返好了。
  10. 00:42:400 (4,5,6) - 这样跳就比较难受,重音在5,6很轻.00:44:000 (4,5,6) - 也是 都改了。
  11. 00:51:600 (1) - 谜之跟轨 跟的渐高旋律(喂。
  12. 00:54:200 (4,5,1) - hmm……kiai也不多说了,感觉这节奏太随心所欲了.就算你说要突出人声,那00:58:000 (1) - 这种也都跟了,反正我完全没找到你节奏的逻辑…… 那个1删了,感觉是有点画风不对。其他的基本还是主跟人声强烈部分再补了点重鼓。
  13. 然后滑条形状总体有点难看,像00:30:000 (3) - 这样单独看着就不太好看,而且没有配合.其实00:29:200 (1,3) - 这种前后相关的一组音都简单做对称效果就很好.很多多锚点滑条都扭得很奇怪,我是觉得效果不太好 稍微修了点,有些我自己还挺喜欢的……看看别人怎么评价吧。
  14. 跳有些地方也有点随意.00:05:200 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这种跳就比较漂亮,除了因为ds太近导致自动堆叠碰到以外.00:08:800 (2,3,4,5,6) - 这种也还好,姑且能看出你想摆六边形,但是摆得太歪了,这类最好是摆出一个正三角形之后复制粘贴,确定坐标.00:58:000 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - 这种就有点难看了,除了234是ds之外基本感觉是乱的. 那个六边形怎么会歪,我是ctrl shift d摆的啊……刚刚看了一眼也感觉没有歪。然后后面那段是两组跳吧,4567是重复节奏,前后这个节奏我都是这么摆的。
    除了注重几何意外,也要注意一下整体跳给人的空间感吧,就是你可以试试不注重几何随手摆摆,看看怎样的跳是看着大气舒服的,找找感觉可能对你摆几何跳也会有帮助 好,偶尔也有试过,感觉的确有点效果。以后我再试试。
  15. 然后跳的ds也有一些问题,一个是类似的地方你有的强调了有的没强调,再有就是像前面提到的00:42:400 (4,5,6) - 这类重音位置不对的情况也不少. 这方面的确有点注意少了,水平比较次t.t

    目前这样子的话我觉得rank会比较吃力,可能要大改下吧
帮助很大,跳的ds之类的我再想想怎么改,蟹蟹pata!
人家要和巴达兽酱手牵手一起作图才能作得好QAQ!
Firika
音效加好了,欢迎各路大佬批评。
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121,66,65600,1,4,3:0:0:0:
205,38,65700,1,0,1:0:0:0:
293,34,65800,1,4,3:0:0:0:
381,54,65900,1,0,1:0:0:0:
471,23,66000,6,0,P|465:68|449:110,1,90.0000034332277,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
268,284,66200,2,0,P|288:318|326:361,1,90.0000034332277,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
476,367,66400,2,0,P|492:326|496:281,1,90.0000034332277,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,164,66600,2,0,P|372:209|381:253,1,90.0000034332277,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,176,66800,6,0,P|232:165|187:163,1,90.0000034332277,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
8,204,67000,2,0,P|50:190|91:170,1,90.0000034332277,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,74,67200,2,0,P|197:118|187:162,1,90.0000034332277,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
92,348,67400,2,0,P|81:304|79:259,1,90.0000034332277,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,32,67600,5,4,3:0:0:0:
220,4,67700,1,0,0:0:0:0:
308,12,67800,2,0,P|360:24|392:40,1,90.0000034332277,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
484,156,68000,2,0,P|499:207|501:242,1,90.0000034332277,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,280,68200,2,0,P|387:319|357:338,1,90.0000034332277,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
92,348,68400,6,0,P|104:296|120:264,1,90.0000034332277,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
236,164,68600,2,0,P|287:148|322:146,1,90.0000034332277,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,184,68800,2,0,P|112:147|93:117,1,90.0000034332277,4|0,3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
306,58,69000,2,0,P|321:109|323:144,1,90.0000034332277,4|0,3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
272,352,69200,5,4,3:0:0:0:
272,352,69400,1,4,3:0:0:0:
16,256,69600,1,8,0:0:0:0:
272,352,70000,5,4,3:0:0:0:
272,352,70200,1,4,3:0:0:0:
16,256,70400,1,8,0:0:0:0:
392,196,70600,2,0,P|432:200|488:216,1,90.0000034332277,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,264,70800,6,0,P|312:260|268:240,7,45.0000017166138,4|0|0|0|0|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
220,284,71200,2,0,P|188:288|144:308,7,45.0000017166138,4|0|0|0|0|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
100,256,71600,2,0,P|84:188|128:88,1,180.000006866455,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,36,71900,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,52,72000,2,0,P|396:112|288:108,1,180.000006866455,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,52,72300,1,0,0:0:0:0:
484,124,72400,6,0,P|476:272|404:364,1,270.000010299683,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
396,236,72800,6,0,P|432:236|492:260,1,90.0000034332277,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
403,364,73000,6,0,B|311:372|311:372|227:344|227:344|139:352,1,270.000010299683,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
67,194,73400,6,0,P|180:237|137:351,1,270.000010299683,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
67,194,73800,6,0,P|124:124|288:144,1,270.000010299683,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
226,344,74200,6,0,L|137:351,1,90.0000034332277,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
67,194,74400,6,0,P|180:237|137:351,1,270.000010299683,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
67,194,74800,6,0,P|132:120|180:104,1,143.999995605469,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
396,144,75100,1,0,0:0:0:0:
460,208,75200,2,0,P|484:108|352:72,1,215.999993408203,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,24,75600,6,0,P|248:40|220:68,1,71.9999978027344,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,256,75800,2,0,P|172:289|183:327,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,176,76000,2,0,P|349:149|320:120,1,71.9999978027344,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
133,73,76200,2,0,P|101:73|63:84,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
0,308,76400,6,0,P|22:331|57:351,1,71.9999978027344,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,372,76600,2,0,P|350:365|386:344,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,120,76800,2,0,P|391:108|355:104,1,71.9999978027344,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,148,77000,2,0,P|85:172|64:201,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,364,77200,5,4,3:0:0:0:
292,304,77300,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,232,77400,2,0,P|304:192|296:152,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,40,77600,2,0,P|130:30|89:28,1,71.9999978027344,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
299,161,77800,2,0,P|338:151|375:133,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
28,60,78000,5,4,3:0:0:0:
0,128,78100,1,0,0:0:0:0:
16,200,78200,2,0,P|36:240|60:272,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
212,240,78400,2,0,P|170:226|130:221,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
0,348,78600,2,0,P|43:363|83:368,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
356,360,78800,5,4,3:0:0:0:
428,344,78900,1,0,0:0:0:0:
468,280,79000,2,0,P|476:236|476:200,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,33,79200,2,0,P|408:65|398:99,1,71.9999978027344,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,288,79400,2,0,P|361:244|352:209,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,41,79600,6,0,P|241:76|240:112,1,71.9999978027344,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
266,323,79800,2,0,P|251:281|233:250,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
81,95,80000,2,0,P|84:130|92:165,1,71.9999978027344,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
181,383,80200,2,0,P|156:347|131:321,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
12,220,80400,5,4,3:0:0:0:
79,247,80500,1,0,0:0:0:0:
152,248,80600,2,0,P|188:240|224:220,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
305,88,80800,2,0,P|312:53|313:17,1,71.9999978027344,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
81,95,81000,2,0,P|84:130|92:165,1,71.9999978027344,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,320,81200,5,4,3:0:0:0:
332,344,81300,1,0,0:0:0:0:
404,344,81400,2,0,P|444:340|480:332,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,158,81600,2,0,P|224:162|188:170,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
440,200,81800,2,0,P|460:168|472:124,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,40,82000,5,4,3:0:0:0:
200,96,82100,1,0,0:0:0:0:
193,169,82200,2,0,P|192:207|204:251,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,70,82400,2,0,P|97:102|85:147,1,71.9999978027344,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,240,82600,2,0,P|218:274|250:306,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
86,135,82800,6,0,P|85:173|97:217,1,71.9999978027344,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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119,82,84400,6,0,P|103:110|91:150,1,71.9999978027344,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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Pata-Mon wrote:

  1. 我是觉得overdone了.听完这歌满脑子都是滑条在飞。。。
    最主要的,00:09:600 (5,6,7,8) - 这种鼓点的大间距连打我觉得是合适的,没问题,然后你00:11:600 (1,2,3) - 这种比较轻的背景旋律也用同样ds是不是就不太合适?这种note其实直接叠到后面滑条头上就很好。 为了顺一点我倒是决定摆在上面,正好铺面上空出来位置,间距问题在后面解释。
    相对地,00:12:400 (1,2,3) - 这里依然保持大间距,这才能突出重点对不对. 没太觉得这地方是重点。。。做的时候也是保持一致,我基本上全程跟的背景的连打音,应该没有特殊的重点节奏。而且感觉改了间距打着会不舒服,而且会难看。。。
    试试按照这个思路大改一下,或许能成为一张不错的图 不太会改,看看有没有人提具体的改法。。。如果很多人建议Remap,那就把这个难度扔介绍栏好了。
Topic Starter
papapa213

Ametrin wrote:

as request

不太适应你的flow……感觉只能强行摸加上我实在不喜欢这曲子orz

[Insane]
00:04:400 (3) - 这个其实也可以叠 后面两个note改改就好 就这样吧,空着左下边也不好看
00:06:400 (2) - NC这个 fixed
00:09:400 (1) - 我是觉得没必要NC... fixed
你的NC我有点看不懂啊 你觉得ok其实也还好?修了一遍nc,不太会下
00:25:400 - insane里这种可以clickable 先不改了吧,这样我觉得挺好的
00:29:100 - 漏音了fixed
00:31:400 (3) - 两个强音建议放跳?fixed

[Hard]
00:31:400 (3) - 强迫症 fixed
00:22:800 (1,1,2) - 为啥不和后面一致 感觉00:24:400 (1,2) - 就很怪 fixed
00:29:100 - 反正都放了这么多三连了 这个干嘛不填上 这里我觉得不太重要
00:30:000 (3) - 不反过来么 fixed
00:34:000 (3,4) - 节奏不对 你再听听我觉得还好?
00:56:400 (4) - 你这个NC就真的要报警了 ncre了一遍


[Normal]
00:03:600 (1,1,1) - 其实1/2拍没有很强 感觉没必要塞爆 fixed
00:30:600 (4) - 可以删掉?fixed
00:45:800 (2,1) - 没必要变节奏 一个滑条拉过来就好 fixed
00:49:600 (1) - 你为啥这么喜欢把这个音放滑条尾 fixed
00:51:800 (1,2,3) - 你要跟vocal就跟到底啊 这里感觉突然空了一拍 改了kiai的节奏

[Easy]
可以 震撼1/2塞爆 remaped
其实没必要啊 像00:19:600 (1,2,1) - 一个折返就糊过去了

有点水 算了就这样吧我最近实在没兴趣摸图qwq 非常有帮助了,感谢yink大爷

Pata-Mon wrote:

看不下去.jpg

[General]
  1. kiai的clap音效好难听 所有难度重新下了音效
  2. nc很多都很乱懒得具体说了,每个难度自己想好按照一个逻辑重新看一遍,低难度没事别乱多加nc,没用
NC重新考虑了一遍,en的nc减少了

[Easy]
  1. ds太小了会显得很挤很难看,而且我个人不太建议用1以下的ds,滑条速度比物件之间还快.个人的推荐是0.9sv 1ds.不过整体看着排列还能rank 懒得改就算了remaped
  2. 音效跟没有一样,非常缺乏feedback.低难度绝大部分物件上都有音效是很正常的 fixed
  3. 00:19:600 (1,2,1,2) - 首先,00:19:600 (1,2) - 和00:21:000 (1,2) - 用一样的节奏比较好,其次,00:19:600 (1,2) - 这个节奏型是ok的,但是00:21:000 (1,2) - 这个就不好,因为00:21:600 - 这个音要比00:21:400 - 这个音重,所以可行的有两种:
    1:https://puu.sh/wUpPg/06e99a2840.png
    2:https://puu.sh/wUpRh/40547fa67c.png
    另外还有很重要一点,这个地方和00:59:600 (1,1) - 以及01:12:400 (1,1) - 01:25:200 (1,1) - 也是一样的,所以你选用一种节奏之后把后三个地方也一起换掉.不过01:02:400 - 和01:15:200 - 这两个地方有音,你可以选择把1中的最后一个滑条加一次折返,或是把2中的最后一个note换成1/1滑条,但不建议在这两个地方放note.fixed,用了第二种
  4. 00:46:800 (1,1) - ez里滑条后面要空一小节fixed
  5. kiai全都1/1塞爆只能说,能rank.但是显然是有更好的下法的,比如00:50:800 - 00:54:000 - 00:57:200 - ……这类地方,用3/2折返滑条,折返点压到00:51:400 - 这种重音.反正ez里3/2滑条是个非常好用的东西
  6. 01:01:000 (1) - 同样可以结束在01:01:600 - ,然后01:02:000 - 这里可以直接放1/1
  7. 01:11:000 (1) - 如果一定要这么下节奏的话,这种地方加一个明显音效盖过原曲更明显的那些鼓会舒服不少.我个人还是更喜欢用前面提到过的把01:10:000 (2) - 加一次折返 重新下了节奏


[Normal]
  1. 你这难度timing忘改了,红线错了两拍 fixed
  2. 音效同上 fixed
  3. 00:03:600 (1,1,1) - 低难度最好不要用多次折返.这里跟go到底就很好 fixed
  4. 00:13:200 - 00:16:400 - 这两个个地方建议加一个note,相当于两句话之间的地方.00:12:400 - 00:18:800 - 这两处也是建议加一个,因为有特殊音 fixed
  5. 00:29:200 (1) - 碰血条了,往下点 fixed
  6. 00:29:800 (2,3) - 这排列吃屎,别这么摆 fixed
  7. 00:30:000 (3,1) - ds不对 fixed
  8. 00:34:000 (1,2) - 明显用一个3/4的折返滑条更好.如果有必要的话,不用在意折返点或者滑条尾这种不用点击的地方压在蓝线 fixed
  9. 00:34:800 (3,4) - 完全没必要塞爆,用一个1/1滑条即可 fixed
  10. 00:46:600 (1,1) - nm里转盘后至少空两拍 fixed
  11. 00:51:800 (1,2,3) - 跟轨很怪,如果跟vocal最好的办法是00:51:800 - 这里用1/2折返滑条,00:52:400 - 这里用1/1滑条,00:53:000 - 这里空着,00:53:200 - 这里用note或者是1/1滑条
  12. 00:55:000 (1,2,3) - 01:04:600 (1,2,3) - 01:07:800 (1,2,3) - 同上.低难度不能全跟,无规律乱切轨是大忌
  13. 01:09:200 (1,2,3) - 01:10:000 (1,2,3,4) - 有点难了,前者用1/2折返,后者用两个1/2,然后01:10:800 - 这里空着足矣
  14. 01:11:000 (1,2) - 这里也是跟vocal吧 重新下了节奏
  15. 01:18:000 - 01:24:400 - 跟前面go一样,建议加note fixed


[Hard]
  1. 00:25:200 (2,2) - 你猜这种地方大家会注意到这里stack了很整齐还是看到你00:25:200 (2,1) - 这里overlap了很难看?fixed
  2. 00:22:800 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 这些变速段其实可以加ds把1/2gap的物件拉开比较好.fixed
  3. 00:26:800 (2) - 为什么突然换成3/2?前面类似的可都是1/1,包括00:24:200 - 这里同样有人声你也用的1/1.保持一致fixed
  4. 00:31:600 (1,2) - 无理的跳fixed
  5. 00:33:200 (4,1,2,3) - 有点远,加上你的nc下法很容易让人读成1/1gapfixed
  6. 00:44:200 (3,1) - 难看.整个难度类似的其实很多,显得就不太干净fixed
  7. 00:50:000 - 前两个难度因为本来就要改转盘我就没说,这里就得说你为啥把这音放在滑条尾?要是说没vocal就算了,但无论是鼓还是vocal都是这里重音进kiaifixed
  8. 00:51:200 (5,1) - 节奏ctrl+G下会更能表现vocal也更有趣.00:51:600 - 这种根本不算重音的大白线你怎么用了clickable反倒刚才进kiai那里不用呢fixed
  9. 00:57:600 (6,1) - ^^
  10. 00:58:200 (2,3) - 00:59:200 (4,1) - 跳太大了fixed
  11. 01:02:800 - 说过 fixed
  12. 01:05:200 (1,2,3,4) - 你就用俩滑条好不好 根本不是什么值得强调的,而且关键是现在hard太难了,就因为这些,还有后面的01:08:400 (1,2,3,4) - .fixed
  13. go那里不再说了



[Insane]
  1. 00:50:000 - ..
  2. 01:10:600 (4,2) - 01:11:600 (1,1) - 这类细节吧,不多挑了 fixed
  3. 总体我是觉得不错的谢谢;w;




GL
Otosaka-Yu
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_MiaoFUuU_

Easy

  1. ctrl+a 往上移一些吧,有些滑条已经碰到我的进度条和判定条了

Normal

  1. 你打开ai mod把重复的绿线删了
  2. 00:38:800 (1) - 碰判定条
  3. 00:56:400 (1) - 包好
  4. 01:20:400 (4) - 这个要出界了
  5. 01:22:200 (2) - 这个弧度可以弯下去包好

Hard

  1. ai mod

Insane

  1. 换ar9
  2. 00:11:200 (4,5) - 想想怎么包好他 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8800237
  3. 00:14:000 (3,4,5,6) - ↑
  4. 00:33:000 (3,4) - 包好
  5. 00:34:000 (1,1,1,1) - 感觉美观牵强,只是建议 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8800252
  6. 00:46:800 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - 这段弧度不够圆滑啊
  7. 01:17:600 (6) - 这个尾巴叠好
  8. 01:19:200 (2) - ↑
  9. 01:20:000 (4) - ↑
  10. 01:21:200 (1,2,3,4) - 这个包好01:20:400 (1) - ,别摩擦啊
  11. 01:23:200 (4) - 叠
  12. 01:23:600 (5) - 01:24:000 (6) - ↑
- Rabbit -
[Insane]
00:00:000 (1,2,3,4) - 这打击音效太大,一开始就吓到我了OAO。。后同
00:02:800 (3,4) - 摆的有点偏
00:33:600 (1,2,3,1,1,1,1) - 这摆的就比较奇特了
00:35:200 (1,2,3,4,1) - 前后这么快的sv,这连打间距就略显小气
00:39:600 (3,4,5) - 00:41:200 (3,4,5) - 摆个∠实在不怎么美观,而且还难打
00:46:800 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 额,半中间换了个打击音效吗。。
01:05:000 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - 01:08:200 (2,1,2,3,4) - 这种跳overmap的话,打起来就比较难受
01:27:200 (2,3,4,1) - 前面放了高速短滑条+连打,这里不放反而有点难受

[Imouto's Light Insane]
00:45:600 (3,7) - 前后小节都没clap了,这里塞了个有点怪
01:16:800 (4,1) - 有点影响整体的简洁性

[Hard]
00:08:600 (5,6,7) - 这flow就比较耿直,把6弯一下怎么样?https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8815961(只是参考)
00:19:600 (1) - 这里转个-30°怎么样?
00:21:600 (2) - 这种滑条就不够美观

我个人觉得hard还是比较吃flow的,建议在这方面可以下点功夫,尤其是kiai段。
其他还有一些类似的也不细说了。

[Normal]
01:15:600 (1,2) - 这种对于normal就比较难打

[Easy]
这easy感觉就偏难了,还一堆折返滑条,有点没人性,和normal的区分度也不够大。

随便水了一下,好像咕了一段时间了。。。
E、N实在不怎么会摸,至于最高难度感觉摸不动。
Imouto koko

- Rabbit - wrote:

[Imouto's Light Insane]
00:45:600 (3,7) - 前后小节都没clap了,这里塞了个有点怪
01:16:800 (4,1) - 有点影响整体的简洁性
All fixed. Thx :)
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Topic Starter
papapa213

_MiaoFUuU_ wrote:

Easy

  1. ctrl+a 往上移一些吧,有些滑条已经碰到我的进度条和判定条了

Normal

  1. 你打开ai mod把重复的绿线删了
  2. 00:38:800 (1) - 碰判定条
  3. 00:56:400 (1) - 包好
  4. 01:20:400 (4) - 这个要出界了
  5. 01:22:200 (2) - 这个弧度可以弯下去包好

Hard

  1. ai mod

Insane

  1. 换ar9
  2. 00:11:200 (4,5) - 想想怎么包好他 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8800237
  3. 00:14:000 (3,4,5,6) - ↑
  4. 00:33:000 (3,4) - 包好
  5. 00:34:000 (1,1,1,1) - 感觉美观牵强,只是建议 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8800252
  6. 00:46:800 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - 这段弧度不够圆滑啊
  7. 01:17:600 (6) - 这个尾巴叠好
  8. 01:19:200 (2) - ↑
  9. 01:20:000 (4) - ↑
  10. 01:21:200 (1,2,3,4) - 这个包好01:20:400 (1) - ,别摩擦啊
  11. 01:23:200 (4) - 叠
  12. 01:23:600 (5) - 01:24:000 (6) - ↑
除了ar all fixed,ar我还是想保持8比较有意思些,非常感谢 :):)

- Rabbit - wrote:

[Insane]
00:00:000 (1,2,3,4) - 这打击音效太大,一开始就吓到我了OAO。。后同 暂时先不改
00:02:800 (3,4) - 摆的有点偏 fixed
00:33:600 (1,2,3,1,1,1,1) - 这摆的就比较奇特了 改了排列
00:35:200 (1,2,3,4,1) - 前后这么快的sv,这连打间距就略显小气 改成两个短滑条
00:39:600 (3,4,5) - 00:41:200 (3,4,5) - 摆个∠实在不怎么美观,而且还难打 改了排列
00:46:800 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 额,半中间换了个打击音效吗。。 是的,暂时先这样
01:05:000 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - 01:08:200 (2,1,2,3,4) - 这种跳overmap的话,打起来就比较难受 感觉还好,我比较喜欢这种跳
01:27:200 (2,3,4,1) - 前面放了高速短滑条+连打,这里不放反而有点难受 这里节奏和前面不一样的,所以不能短滑条接连打


[Hard]
00:08:600 (5,6,7) - 这flow就比较耿直,把6弯一下怎么样?https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8815961(只是参考)fixed
00:19:600 (1) - 这里转个-30°怎么样?
00:21:600 (2) - 这种滑条就不够美观 先这样不动

我个人觉得hard还是比较吃flow的,建议在这方面可以下点功夫,尤其是kiai段。
其他还有一些类似的也不细说了。

[Normal]
01:15:600 (1,2) - 这种对于normal就比较难打 暂时不改

[Easy]
这easy感觉就偏难了,还一堆折返滑条,有点没人性,和normal的区分度也不够大。 应该没什么大问题,我再看看别人怎么说吧

随便水了一下,好像咕了一段时间了。。。
E、N实在不怎么会摸,至于最高难度感觉摸不动。
谢摸,辛苦辛苦
Kawashiro
as ur request

[Imouto]
  1. 00:25:600 (4,5) - you should put jump like 00:31:800 (3,4,5) - here
  2. 00:52:000 (2) - change to 2 circles? same as 01:04:800 (2,3) - here
  3. 01:16:800 (4,1) - this overlap looks ugly imo
  4. just my opinion. some sliders seem have random space. Compare 01:15:600 (1,2,3,4) - here and 01:18:800 (1,2,3,4) - here. I can't understand like 01:16:000 (2,3) - this anti-jumps.


pretty good diff

GL :)
Imouto koko

Kawashiro wrote:

as ur request

[Imouto]
  1. 00:25:600 (4,5) - you should put jump like 00:31:800 (3,4,5) - here fixed.
  2. 00:52:000 (2) - change to 2 circles? same as 01:04:800 (2,3) - here fixed.
  3. 01:16:800 (4,1) - this overlap looks ugly imo just ctrl+r and fixed.
  4. just my opinion. some sliders seem have random space. Compare 01:15:600 (1,2,3,4) - here and 01:18:800 (1,2,3,4) - here. I can't understand like 01:16:000 (2,3) - this anti-jumps. hmm.. i think the jump is really bad and adjust the flow. but still have no good idea for the distance.


pretty good diff

GL :)
thx for mod :)

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buhei
17:52 *buhei is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1368143 RAMM ni Haiyoru Tamao-san - Kirai na Wake Lychee (TV size)]
17:52 buhei: 你要我看哪个难度
17:53 papapa213: 主难度
17:53 papapa213: oiso
17:53 papapa213: 辛..辛苦
17:54 buhei: 。。
17:54 buhei: 这图好暴力啊
17:54 papapa213: 是的没错
18:00 buhei: hard不错
18:00 papapa213: hard不错
18:00 buhei: 都没啥太大问题。。
18:00 buhei: 主要还是osio
18:01 papapa213: 嗯...
18:01 papapa213: (你居然不吐槽bg吗
18:01 buhei: bg是啥
18:02 papapa213: 没事
18:02 buhei: 00:26:400 (1,1) -
18:02 *buhei is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1368143 RAMM ni Haiyoru Tamao-san - Kirai na Wake Lychee (TV size) [Oiso's Extra]]
18:02 buhei: 啧
18:03 papapa213: 应该两个click?
18:03 buhei: 如果是我的话,后面一个滑条我就弄成直的
18:03 buhei: 这两个滑条长得几乎一模一样,看不出来有一个减速了啊
18:03 papapa213: 这样
18:03 buhei: 00:33:000 (1) - 而且这里有个鼓
18:04 buhei: 确实,两个click好点
18:04 papapa213: 嗯,我回头和他说
18:04 buhei: 00:37:000 (3,1) -
18:04 buhei: 这一段串
18:04 buhei: 音乐的鼓很弱了
18:04 buhei: 建议不要放这种跳了
18:04 buhei: 串就够了
18:04 papapa213: 嗯
18:05 buhei: 串+跳太急促,不太适合这段音乐我感觉
18:05 papapa213: 串还行,跳是有点
18:05 buhei: 00:45:200 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - 这里我反而觉得可以稍微跳一点
18:05 papapa213: 我还是挺喜欢这段串的
18:05 buhei: 音乐有变强的趋势
18:06 buhei: 还有这里
18:06 buhei: 01:14:800 (1,2,3) -
18:06 buhei: 这样糊过去太可惜了吧
18:06 buhei: 这里背景三连音音效很特殊很带感啊
18:06 buhei: 不来个三连对得起人?
18:08 buhei: 这里01:14:800 (1,2,3) -
18:08 buhei: 粘贴错了
18:08 buhei: 这里01:27:900 -
18:08 buhei: 这发生了什么,为啥漏音了
18:08 buhei: 确定最后一个滑条没放晚一拍吗
18:09 papapa213: 嗯 我和他说
18:09 buhei: 你的图
18:09 buhei: insane难度
18:09 buhei: 也稍微有点小问题
18:09 papapa213: 嗯
18:10 buhei: 00:34:000 (1,1,1,1,1,2) -
18:10 buhei: 都糊在一块了。。
18:10 buhei: 00:34:800 (1,1,2) - 这几个可以放远一点
18:11 papapa213: 好
18:11 buhei: 00:46:800 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
18:11 buhei: 这有点恶心
18:11 buhei: 不太符合这个星数
18:11 buhei: 不过也不是啥大问题。。
18:11 buhei: 其他的都还好
18:11 buhei: 剩下来的问题就只有滑条摆的不好看了
18:12 papapa213: 思考
18:12 buhei: 挺好的其实 节奏不算很单调了
18:13 papapa213: 嗯,谢谢
18:13 papapa213: 我觉得你说这么多完全可以po上去了啊....
18:14 buhei: ;w;
18:14 buhei: 那我等会po一下吧
18:14 buhei: 给你凑sp
18:14 papapa213: 凑sp
18:14 buhei: imouto这作图和谁学的
18:15 buhei: emmmm
18:15 papapa213: 不知道啊
18:15 papapa213: 我不太清楚他
18:15 papapa213: 可能是妹桑?
18:15 buhei: 妹桑做图是这风格吗
18:15 papapa213: 我不知道;w; 我也不懂风格
18:15 buhei: 这已经是随时rank的水平了
18:16 buhei: 00:58:800 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - 重音的地方加小跳
18:16 papapa213: 扑通
18:16 buhei: 00:33:400 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -
18:16 buhei: 这个节奏
18:16 buhei: 已经不像新人摆的了
18:16 buhei: 排列弄得再好读一点就完美了 这一个地方
18:17 buhei: ;w;
18:17 papapa213: 一米四被夸了
18:17 buhei: 不过也有地方有挺明显的新人气
18:17 buhei: 就我刚刚夸的地方的后面
18:17 buhei: 00:33:400 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -
18:18 buhei: 00:34:000 (1,2) -
18:18 buhei: 叠在一起了好丑啊
18:18 buhei: 233
18:18 papapa213: 丑
18:19 buhei: 你可以学一下她在重音部分强调的方法
18:19 buhei: 你看你的diff
18:19 buhei: 00:58:800 (1,2) -
18:19 buhei: 你放了两个滑条
18:20 buhei: 而且和之前的间距比起来没有很明显变大
18:20 buhei: 感觉突出不够
18:20 buhei: 一米四在这个地方的处理挺好的
18:20 buhei: 而且怎么说呢emm
18:20 papapa213: 后面半段放的跳
18:21 buhei: 她的图直滑条摆的很简洁
18:21 buhei: 整洁*
18:21 buhei: 当然也有不干净的地方 比如我刚刚说的
18:22 buhei: 这个osio的难度感觉就有点不走心
18:22 buhei: 音乐强的地方弱的地方间距都差不多
18:22 buhei: 全程逆时针转
18:22 buhei: flow单一
18:22 papapa213: 感觉他kiai节奏不太好
18:22 buhei: 整体性不好
18:22 buhei: 让人看到这图抓不住结构
18:23 buhei: 除了中间有个串的部分能大致分割一下
18:23 papapa213: 全程逆时针我也和他说过,然后当时有人也说全程一个方向也行
18:23 buhei: 全程逆时针
18:23 buhei: quo vadis不就是全程逆时针
18:23 buhei: 233
18:23 buhei: 不过他大跳也一直逆时针就有点
18:23 buhei: 显眼了
18:24 papapa213: 00:51:600 (1,2,3,4,5) - 我觉得他这种地方节奏下的不太好
18:24 buhei: 确实很迷
18:24 buhei: 太随性了
18:24 papapa213: 00:51:800 (3,4,5,6) - 我觉得这里是不是人声需要跟一下
18:24 buhei: 我个人观点是跟
18:24 buhei: 这里人声的节奏比较特殊
18:24 papapa213: 00:58:800 (1,2,3,4) - 然后这里听起来和打起来不太一样
18:25 buhei: 这个我倒没意见
18:25 papapa213: 听着像四个滑条 而且音很重
18:25 buhei: 以后可以给你解释一下这个地方为啥我觉得可以
18:25 papapa213: 好
18:26 papapa213: 01:05:200 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 后面这里我觉得挺好 前半段有点迷
18:26 buhei: 01:27:900 - 这里我还是希望能加个note
18:26 buhei: 没啥东西了
18:26 papapa213: 嗯 我和他说
18:26 papapa213: po上去吧(
[Kamiya]
随便摸两下溜了

[Oiso]

01:05:800 (5,6,1) - flow太太太太太别扭了
00:51:000 (2,3) - 也很卡手
没了

no kd
Topic Starter
papapa213

[Kamiya] wrote:

no kd
还是给了kd,这图前期都是四萌给看的,帮了很大忙;w;
Kashima
[一米四]
00:06:200 (6) - 没放在3和4的中间 歪了
00:26:000 (1,2,3) - 没包好
00:30:000 (3,3) - 对齐对齐
00:34:800 (4,5,6,1) - 滑条拉的好看一点
00:42:000 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 如果是想重复梗的话把2叠三连对齐了会比较好 这种小小的错位不适合用在这个地方 看着很乱
00:49:200 (1,2,3,4) - 给我好好用滑条转换连打的功能waaadjasdiahwioemqoimeoiqwej

没啥了 都是小地方 多检查一下3连5连有没有歪之类的

[osio]
爽图 不过看着会有点不干净

类似00:06:400 (3,4,5,6) - 这种大间距连打 snap不相等的情况
类似00:30:800 (3,5) - 这种blanket没弄好的情况

00:50:000 (1,2,3,4,5) - so ba nii 建议是在so和ba的地方下2个短滑条 在长音用大间距连打 然后00:50:800 (1,2,3,4) - 这里再把1给c+g 这样处理会更好一点
00:56:400 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这里和上面差不多 たのしい 应该ta和no的地方短滑条 shii的长音用连打
01:05:600 (3,4,5,6,1) - 这个地方会杀人的 很别手 这里要改的话可以顺带把01:06:000 (1,2,3,4) - 也改了
乱摆了个https://puu.sh/xGHIx/80e318e33f.png 可以参考一下
01:08:800 (3,4) - 这里可以换成连打 你音效也是这样下的

能力有限 摸不出其他东西了
Yahuri
m4m from q

General
-add custom combo colors

Normal
-i dont understand the purpose of the claps, they arent consistent with instruments in the music. it would make sense if you put them on every red tick from here 00:10:200 to here 00:19:600 to match the background instrument.
00:00:400 - would be better as a circle imo because its very strong https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9162853
00:46:200 - end slider here to emphasize vocals like you did on the last 2 sliders
00:50:000 (1,2) - make this a reverse 1/2 slider to map vocals like you do for the rest of the combo
00:53:200 (1) - ^
00:56:400 (1) - ^
01:02:800 (1) - ^
01:06:000 (1) - ^
01:11:000 (4,5) - try this rhythm instead, what you have right now is a switch to instrument emphasis in the middle of the combo which doesnt sound good https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9162826
01:17:400 (4,5,1) - inconsistent with what you did here 00:11:800 (3,4,5,1) - map these notes 00:12:400 - 01:18:000 or remove them
01:23:800 (4,5,1) - ^
01:20:400 (4) - slider is very unfitting for this diff because its weirdly shaped and the longest slider. this particular section of the music doesnt stand out for this to be fitting. could try this rhythm instead https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9162889
01:27:600 - since this note is so strong you should map it as a circle

Imouto
00:05:800 (4,6,7,8) - the close visual spacing of these objects make it look very uncomfortable, you could try stacking 00:06:200 (6,7,8) - on top of 00:05:200 (1) instead
01:09:200 (1,2,3) - could adjust this triangle so that there isnt a weird overlap here 01:08:600 (5,3)

Insane
00:00:400 (1,3) - move 3 down a bit so the head perfectly overlaps under 1 (to be consistent with the visual here 00:00:800 (2,4))
00:33:600 (1,2,3) - doesnt flow well because 1 is pointing in the complete opposite direction of 2-3
00:34:300 (1,1) - i dont think these NCs are necessary

Oiso
00:08:600 (1,2,4) - given the visual spacing throughout the rest of the intro i think you should space out the slider heads more
00:33:600 (3) - add NC for SV change?
00:55:800 - missed a note here, should map 00:55:600 (1,2) - as 2 1/4 sliders imo to emphasize vocal on 1st slider and instrument on 2nd slider
00:59:000 - missed a note here

good luck
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