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Mod per queue! :3c


[Inner Oni]
Unrankable: 00:22:036 - you cannot have 2 inherited timing points on the same point according to RC.

00:01:280 - to 00:11:658 - This is pretty repetitive/ too dense right off the bat. I suggest you make the first half a little less dense and the second half a little denser to sort out the problem? Currently this is harder than your kiai which really shouldnt be, as its the start of the map.

00:03:307 (18,19) - instead of making them both kats, id suggest making only 18 a kat because the sound you are improvising for is way too pronounced if you use 2 kats.

00:19:442 - this build up is different from 02:03:225 - , but should sound exactly the same. I suggest you use the 2nd buildup and replace the 1st buildup with it.

01:00:955 - same goes for this, why are all streams different for no quickly appearant reason?

01:07:928 (445,446,447,448,449,450,451,452) - this sounds quite off considering the even rhythm you used most of the kiai. 01:08:009 - this sound is completely left out and it sounds plain weird, try doing something that encorporates the offbeat melody more?

01:18:469 (536,537,538,539,540,541,542) - ^

01:24:307 - to 01:45:063 - I have to agree with Backfire.
01:25:117 - this is left out for some reason, making it sound very odd when you should be basing your 4-4 rhythms on the only offbeat thing in the song, the melody, which is oddly left out here.

Rest of the mapset is clean afaic.
Inner Oni really does need a lot of work, especially with the intro.

Good luck!
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Hi, here is the Oni GD as requested.

https://puu.sh/y5gRv.rar

Please add my name to tags, thanks :3
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Backfire wrote:

[Kantan]
00:57:063 - I kinda like k d k d D since it follows the synth like the rest of the map has been?
I made k d k k D instead, k D emphasizes better imo :P
01:20:415 - d k d ? I feel like it is a little bland with just ddd and you've done like a k d k earlier.
01:35:982 - ^
Fixed both
I mostly like the kantan, seems really fun for a new player.
nice one :3

[Futsuu]
Looks pretty clean like Kantan, I think these are both at least ready for rank.
great c:

[Inner Oni]
00:01:280 - 00:06:469 - I think create 1/1 spaces like on these spots 00:01:928 - 00:03:225 - 00:04:523 - -------Like this, I get it's inner oni but you need to not make it so suddenly dense I think. Graduate it to a dense map, first.
that's totally sright, anyways I made an equilibrium on breaks :p
22036,-100,4,1,0,60,0,0
Delete this timing point, it is unnecessary since you want it to have .75 right? There is a duplicate at this time, which is 1.00x. It conflicts with the .75. You will see what im talking about, just open up the timing setup lel
wops mistake here, idk what happened but fixed
01:24:307 - 01:45:063 - The 4 plet rhythm is soooo not correct for this imo. Make it harder by doing 2 and 6 plet combos throughout the kiai like moving
01:24:955 - to 01:25:117 - ,01:26:252 - to 01:26:415 - and so on and so forth.
Restructure of the second half of kiai is pretty necessary imo, for rankability.
Yeah, I remapped second half :p
Good mapset, tho, the inner oni needs work like I said, but I believe you can fix it.
Let's see how it goes :D

Nepuri wrote:

Mod per queue! :3c


[Inner Oni]
Unrankable: 00:22:036 - you cannot have 2 inherited timing points on the same point according to RC.
Fixed above
00:01:280 - to 00:11:658 - This is pretty repetitive/ too dense right off the bat. I suggest you make the first half a little less dense and the second half a little denser to sort out the problem? Currently this is harder than your kiai which really shouldnt be, as its the start of the map.
Fixed above aswell
00:03:307 (18,19) - instead of making them both kats, id suggest making only 18 a kat because the sound you are improvising for is way too pronounced if you use 2 kats.
Yeah I had that on a first instance, came back to that when rechecking :D
00:19:442 - this build up is different from 02:03:225 - , but should sound exactly the same. I suggest you use the 2nd buildup and replace the 1st buildup with it.
Hmmm a variation on middlestream it isn't that bad, finishing with a 'complex' pattern is nice for me
01:00:955 - same goes for this, why are all streams different for no quickly appearant reason?
Same reason as above, all streams are following main pitches good
01:07:928 (445,446,447,448,449,450,451,452) - this sounds quite off considering the even rhythm you used most of the kiai. 01:08:009 - this sound is completely left out and it sounds plain weird, try doing something that encorporates the offbeat melody more?
Fixed
01:18:469 (536,537,538,539,540,541,542) - ^
^
01:24:307 - to 01:45:063 - I have to agree with Backfire.
01:25:117 - this is left out for some reason, making it sound very odd when you should be basing your 4-4 rhythms on the only offbeat thing in the song, the melody, which is oddly left out here.
Yeah, remapped the second half
Rest of the mapset is clean afaic.
Inner Oni really does need a lot of work, especially with the intro.
I rechecked most of the whole map :D
Good luck!
Thank you both for the mods <3! Also added Nardo's Oni
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playshoulder first, zzz almost forgot this.
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Surono wrote:

playshoulder first, zzz almost forgot this.
zzz

will check in the next days :3c
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Inner
00:01:442 - 00:02:090 - kat these and similar others, cuz why? yeah 00:01:280 - ~ 00:11:658 - in this part, really many repetitives and rhythmless zzzz. this isnt minor thingy

00:12:469 - 00:17:171 -00:17:820 - 00:17:982 - kat these for rhythm emphasis, reason same as above

00:22:847 - dkkddkd

00:26:901 - 00:37:279 - 00:42:469 - overemphasizd, shuld d

01:45:225 - and from here, like first point zzzzz

beginin until enterin the kiai and after kiai feels rhythmless i guess, but idk yeah it seems like own stye emphasis.. for bg sound? i guess zzz

Gaston
00:21:063 - ~ 00:21:712 - change slider? oni has longstream in here or ddd ddd k

00:22:036 - ~ 00:41:334 - you should nerf this part, it seems close with spread higher diffs and unbalance with lower diffs

00:42:793 - ~ 00:50:901 - a bit nerf, reduce the xxxx as xx

01:02:577 - slider or kkk kkk d

yes
posted

Surono wrote:

Gaston
00:21:063 - ~ 00:21:712 - change slider? oni has longstream in here or ddd ddd k slider

00:22:036 - ~ 00:41:334 - you should nerf this part, it seems close with spread higher diffs and unbalance with lower diffs nerfed

00:42:793 - ~ 00:50:901 - a bit nerf, reduce the xxxx as xx changed patterns

01:02:577 - slider or kkk kkk d yes sir

yes yes
thanks sir surono :roll:

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posted

Gabe wrote:

Surono wrote:

playshoulder first, zzz almost forgot this.
zzz

will check in the next days :3c
oops.

revive this and pm me
posted

Surono wrote:

Inner
00:01:442 - 00:02:090 - kat these and similar others, cuz why? yeah 00:01:280 - ~ 00:11:658 - in this part, really many repetitives and rhythmless zzzz. this isnt minor thingy
tbh I feel kdk too strong considering it's a build up emphasizing on 00:01:604 (4) - these kind of kicks D:, about repetivity yeah i know it, but if i make so many variations it would be actually so overmapped / not well following the rhythm D:
00:12:469 - 00:17:171 -00:17:820 - 00:17:982 - kat these for rhythm emphasis, reason same as above
oki just made 00:12:469 (87) - 00:15:063 (107) - kats since they're more neccesary imo, about 00:16:847 - im following current kicks each 2/1 so i think isn't a real problem D:
00:22:847 - dkkddkd
done
00:26:901 - 00:37:279 - 00:42:469 - overemphasizd, shuld d
changed the first two, the third is nice considering im emphasizing 00:42:793 (270) - so hard
01:45:225 - and from here, like first point zzzzz
same reason D:
beginin until enterin the kiai and after kiai feels rhythmless i guess, but idk yeah it seems like own stye emphasis.. for bg sound? i guess zzz
mmm i don't feel like its rhythmless, im following bg sound as you said so D:
Thank you for the mod sir!
posted
[General]
  1. The spread between Futsuu and Muzu is pretty far. Look 00:22:036 - here and you'll see what I mean. In fact, Muzu is harder than Oni in some sections around there. Please increase Futsuu there and reduce Muzu there.

[Kantan]
  1. 01:01:928 (25) - you haven't been following this until now that there's a high note here. I think this can be confusing and potentially jarring for a kantan level player who is expecting to hit the 4/1 patterns around here. I recommend moving to 01:02:252 - here and changing to d

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:19:442 - finisher inconsistent with kantan
  2. 01:34:685 - add finisher
  3. 01:11:982 (81,82,83) - this should definitely be ddk or dkk because 01:12:307 - this is so high (01:22:361 (117,118,119) - again)
  4. 01:12:793 - consider taking advantage of this red tick, idea shown below

    doing this would further emphasize the difference between this section and the later section 01:27:874 - here, because presently, they're mapped very similarly
  5. generally you use a lot of mono 1/2 triplets, which could be colored and made cooler, but that's nonessential

[Muzukashii]
  1. remember to include a 2/1 break somewhere before and after your kiai. you're patterns are pretty continuous, even in the slow sections, and that's not good
  2. 00:22:036 - / 00:42:793 - this is a calm section in the song, please remove some notes and map it more calmly
  3. 01:00:307 - you missed this melody note here, it seems unstructured without this
  4. 01:01:442 - change to k to make the kkd 01:01:928 (55,56,57) - here more destinct
  5. 01:07:279 (82,83,84) - change this to k kd or k dd to reflect the pitch more accurately, or simply change 01:07:279 (82) - this to k
  6. 01:11:171 (101) - d might be better for the pitch

[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:22:036 - add finisher
  2. 00:53:171 - I'll talk about it more in game, but the colors sound off here, and I'd like more explanation

call me back if you're certain you've fixed the futsuu -> muzu
posted

Jonawaga wrote:

[General]
  1. The spread between Futsuu and Muzu is pretty far. Look 00:22:036 - here and you'll see what I mean. In fact, Muzu is harder than Oni in some sections around there. Please increase Futsuu there and reduce Muzu there.
My diff doesn't updated (check my last post). I nerfed that section and others to be more consistent with Futsuu and Oni.
I'll check the other points in a few moment

Edit:

Jonawaga wrote:

[Muzukashii]
  1. remember to include a 2/1 break somewhere before and after your kiai. you're patterns are pretty continuous, even in the slow sections, and that's not good I added some breaks
  2. 00:22:036 - / 00:42:793 - this is a calm section in the song, please remove some notes and map it more calmly I nerfed this part but now I decide remove more to be more consistent with Futsuu
  3. 01:00:307 - you missed this melody note here, it seems unstructured without this I changed all pattern
  4. 01:01:442 - change to k to make the kkd 01:01:928 (55,56,57) - here more destinct I changed that note to kat, but all pattern was changed
  5. 01:07:279 (82,83,84) - change this to k kd or k dd to reflect the pitch more accurately, or simply change 01:07:279 (82) - this to k Changed to k dd
  6. 01:11:171 (101) - d might be better for the pitch Changed
Thanks very much for mod!

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posted

Jonawaga wrote:

[General]
  1. The spread between Futsuu and Muzu is pretty far. Look 00:22:036 - here and you'll see what I mean. In fact, Muzu is harder than Oni in some sections around there. Please increase Futsuu there and reduce Muzu there.

Oki, I did and told gaston to nerf a little his diff
[Kantan]
  1. 01:01:928 (25) - you haven't been following this until now that there's a high note here. I think this can be confusing and potentially jarring for a kantan level player who is expecting to hit the 4/1 patterns around here. I recommend moving to 01:02:252 - here and changing to d

fixed
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:19:442 - finisher inconsistent with kantan
    fix
  2. 01:34:685 - add finisher
    ok
  3. 01:11:982 (81,82,83) - this should definitely be ddk or dkk because 01:12:307 - this is so high (01:22:361 (117,118,119) - again)
    truetrue, ddk cause pitches
  4. 01:12:793 - consider taking advantage of this red tick, idea shown below

    i think a note here 01:12:793 - breaks the melody follow, otherwise a triple here would be so hard and dense
    doing this would further emphasize the difference between this section and the later section 01:27:874 - here, because presently, they're mapped very similarly
  5. generally you use a lot of mono 1/2 triplets, which could be colored and made cooler, but that's nonessential
    I did that since i want Kantan and Fut as simple as possible, that's all, but isn't a problem


[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:22:036 - add finisher
    done
  2. 00:53:171 - I'll talk about it more in game, but the colors sound off here, and I'd like more explanation
    i think i fixed it somehow, that's ok tho


call me back if you're certain you've fixed the futsuu -> muzu
should be okay now!
Thanks for the mod!!
posted
no kd of course :3c
[SB]
  1. 00:42:388 - SB load >5! consider removing some stuff that isn't visible here
  2. 01:24:388 - ^
  3. 01:34:685 - ^
  4. 01:43:766 - ^

[Kantan]
  1. 00:57:063 (18,19,20,21) - consider removing one of these, reason explained below
  2. 00:58:361 - the advice I gave you around here may have been bad. I think here, since the intensity increases, you should start mapping a little more instead of the same amount. Consider including 00:59:009 - this, 01:00:307 - this, etc. as you did in your Futsuu. Then in your futsuu, start including 00:59:334 - this and this 01:00:631 - this to make it not the same as kantan. You will notice that even this is still less than muzukashii.
  3. 02:00:631 - same intensity increasing pattern as described earlier

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:58:361 - increase in intensity here, as mentioned in kantan
  2. 02:00:631 - same intensity increasing pattern as described earlier

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:46:361 - consider a more melodic rhythm here rather than repeating dkdkd, from 00:46:361 - here, consider kddkdd or kddkdk
  2. 00:52:847 - switch to d because the pitch is falling

[Inner Oni]
  1. HP 6 or 6.5 would be better and more typical

keep calling me back
posted

Jonawaga wrote:

no kd of course :3c
[SB]
  1. 00:42:388 - SB load >5! consider removing some stuff that isn't visible here
  2. 01:24:388 - ^
  3. 01:34:685 - ^
  4. 01:43:766 - ^
    fixed

[Kantan]
  1. 00:57:063 (18,19,20,21) - consider removing one of these, reason explained below
    I pref holding them and deleting 00:56:090 (17) - to not making this dense, it's fine since i'm following a section change
  2. 00:58:361 - the advice I gave you around here may have been bad. I think here, since the intensity increases, you should start mapping a little more instead of the same amount. Consider including 00:59:009 - this, 01:00:307 - this, etc. as you did in your Futsuu. Then in your futsuu, start including
    00:59:334 - this and this 01:00:631 - this to make it not the same as kantan. You will notice that even this is still less than muzukashii.
  3. 02:00:631 - same intensity increasing pattern as described earlier
    tbh I pref omiting some notes on this diff, as I stated before i want to hold kantan simple, also as futsuu diff, anyways a made some changes considering your suggestions, i think it's better now tho

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:58:361 - increase in intensity here, as mentioned in kantan
    way same explanation here
  2. 02:00:631 - same intensity increasing pattern as described earlier
    same

basically my reasoning is the buildup im making is way similar to inner oni; 00:58:361 - 01:00:955 - calmer then making it more intense from here

[Inner Oni]
  1. HP 6 or 6.5 would be better and more typical
    5,5 is enough imo

keep calling me back
thanks for the recheck! waiting for gaston to update
posted

Jonawaga wrote:

no kd of course :3c
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:46:361 - consider a more melodic rhythm here rather than repeating dkdkd, from 00:46:361 - here, consider kddkdd or kddkdk I changed it to kkdkdd by the increase of tone in 00:43:766 (3,4,6,7) -
  2. 00:52:847 - switch to d because the pitch is falling Yes
Thanks for recheck!
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wonderful sb
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i qualify it already
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Jonawaga wrote:

wonderful sb
thanks mega and you!

Gabe wrote:

i qualify it already
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I've had a talk with xfrac for the Muzukashii as there was no 3/2 rest during the kiai time. We reached an agreement that the kiai time was easy and the difficulty was rising during the kiai time, which doesn't make it necessary to have short breaks.

I also confirmed the metadata with yuki. :
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