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Garin
264 posts
Joined November 2012
Topic Starter
Garin
i'm sick of this forum being so god damn disorganized and the rules never being enforced, can we PLEASE get some more mods for the skinning section?

day after day people post mix skin after mix skin nobody reads the rules and i haven't seen a single forum mod in this section since god knows when

STEP IT UP, THIS PLACE IS A MESS

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atturbo555
196 posts
Joined January 2015
atturbo555
yeah, so someone is want to darma.

Such as this...



And that mixed skin is really shit.




And I saw some elements is from you. So weird, What are you doing moderator!?
We need more skinning moderator.
RockRoller
Global Moderator
2,403 posts
Joined May 2016
RockRoller
I totally agree with you.
From my 80 (I know that isnt much, but at least I try to contribute something to the community) Posts, 30 or something like that are Post where I said "this is a mixed skin, ..."
We really need more moderation and the posts should get deleted. There are so many mixed-skin posts that didn't got deleted.

And what is with the subforum? No skins get moved over to that forum. Why?

Edit: the last update on that forum is a year ago...
RockRoller
Global Moderator
2,403 posts
Joined May 2016
RockRoller
I forgot to mention that there may should be a consequence for people breaking the rules of the forum.
If somebody got said that its not allowed, says ok, my fault and deltet the post than every thing should be fine.

But the example with Wendy-Chan is god. If the person want to discuss about the rules and isnt insightful, then they should get a silence or something like that.
I hope you know what I what to say with this.
Lyawi
Global Moderator
3,336 posts
Joined February 2015
Lyawi
yup, we need something here. It should be someone who is familiar with skinning

Since I would like to moderate, I would do that, but who knows if it would ever happen tbh
Garin
264 posts
Joined November 2012
Topic Starter
Garin
yeah its definitely a problem when the people who are the most active here over 30% of their posts are informing people they are breaking rules, its ridiculous.

and indeed Lyawi more moderation is definitely needed, hell i would be willing to do it and im sure a few others would too, its pretty obvious we need atleast 2 more mods dedicated to this section of the forum.
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RockRoller
Global Moderator
2,403 posts
Joined May 2016
RockRoller
Where would we have to request mods for this forum
Faeture Request?
2 Mods for this Forum and 1 for completing the subforum would be really nice.
Lyawi
Global Moderator
3,336 posts
Joined February 2015
Lyawi

RockRoller wrote:

Where would we have to request mods for this forum
Faeture Request?
I don't think that there's a big need for posting it there. I posted it in a discord server with some mods, I also have private contact to some, so it shouldn't be a big problem that some of them notices Garin's post - the real question is if something will happen in the future. But feel free if you want to

RockRoller wrote:

2 Mods for this Forum and 1 for completing the subforum would be really nice.
I don't want to sound mean, but we're not who decides that, also those two would also moderate the Completed subforum (if needed, they just have to move a thread) then pretty sure
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat
You sadly can't request for mods for here, mods will be internally discussed. We don't really take recommendations.

On to the matter at hand, I feel this is partly my fault, I took a massive step forward a while ago and then kinda dropped of the face of the earth with no one to really pick up where I left off. Skins just hanging around with no one to check them. Users acting as already mentioned, ignoring rules and getting overly defensive. I 100% agree that this place needs a dedicated mod or 2 and I would love to actually try put some effort into cleaning this place up again. I'm not in a position where I'm able to for about another week, but I'll try pick up my efforts in maintaining this place. The work that a lot of you output is amazing and you all deserve a place to post it without having to worry about drama and idiots.

Until I'm back home and able to do anything, feel free to shoot me a forum message and I'll be sure to try resolve issues as fast as I am able, but be aware I am technically on holiday, so I might take a while before acting(or straight away, depends on the time of the day)

EDIT: I am going to sleep now since it is midnight, so I'll be checking this thread when I wake up.
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Garin
264 posts
Joined November 2012
Topic Starter
Garin

deadbeat wrote:

You sadly can't request for mods for here, mods will be internally discussed. We don't really take recommendations.

On to the matter at hand, I feel this is partly my fault, I took a massive step forward a while ago and then kinda dropped of the face of the earth with no one to really pick up where I left off. Skins just hanging around with no one to check them. Users acting as already mentioned, ignoring rules and getting overly defensive. I 100% agree that this place needs a dedicated mod or 2 and I would love to actually try put some effort into cleaning this place up again. I'm not in a position where I'm able to for about another week, but I'll try pick up my efforts in maintaining this place. The work that a lot of you output is amazing and you all deserve a place to post it without having to worry about drama and idiots.

Until I'm back home and able to do anything, feel free to shoot me a forum message and I'll be sure to try resolve issues as fast as I am able, but be aware I am technically on holiday, so I might take a while before acting(or straight away, depends on the time of the day)
im glad you replied so quickly thanks.

honestly it sucks that you are the only mod here and its understandable if you have more important things to deal with i can respect that but i feel it's gotten way too out of hand as of late and something needs to be done.

it would be great if you could talk to the team about this, there's plenty of us willing to moderate this section.
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat
We are semi aware of this, however you also have to understand that most of us aren't really forum moderators. Most of the GMT were added through chat moderation. I believe there are a few who are interested in cleaning this up, and hopefully we can make a move into this shortly. In the meantime, there are things you guys can do to help clean this place up. You could do any of the following
  1. Contact a mod if there a thread breaking rules
  2. Brainstorm ideas in here to improve the subforum (maybe some rules need amending, too many pinned thread etc.)
  3. Help us work through the completed skins thread and directly let us know if you feel something is worthy of being marked as completed


I'll have a look around here a bit in the morning after I've slept and stuff, but yeah. Thank you for showing interest in cleaning this place up, and hopefully we can do that at some point soon!

If you guys do need anything, I'm here to help, don't hesitate to contact me.
Lyawi
Global Moderator
3,336 posts
Joined February 2015
Lyawi
Thanks for taking care

Gonna message you later about the things of your last comment
Stefan
Global Moderator
10,393 posts
Joined January 2011
Stefan
Another suggestion (related to these comments atturbo555 posted): Don't add more fuel than needed. Just post objectively that mixed skins or whatever people break are not allowed and don't start to react aggressively in any time. If people fail to understand you, then leave them be until a moderator appears.
RockRoller
Global Moderator
2,403 posts
Joined May 2016
RockRoller
Thanks for the answer.

Will try to look a little bit trough the completed skins waiting list.
atturbo555
196 posts
Joined January 2015
atturbo555

Stefan wrote:

Another suggestion (related to these comments atturbo555 posted): Don't add more fuel than needed. Just post objectively that mixed skins or whatever people break are not allowed and don't start to react aggressively in any time. If people fail to understand you, then leave them be until a moderator appears.
OK, Thank for some information. Just i mark mixed skin forum. Sometime I may have some rage. I will start to send link of mixed skin to moderator.
MaximumTilt
36 posts
Joined August 2015
MaximumTilt
Maybe make it clear that there are rules in this forum by making a post that clearly says in the title that the rules are in that post, people usually skip over skinning guidelines because it says guidelines while there are some rules in there (like that mixed skins aren't allowed)

Anyway I'm glad someone made this post, I was on the verge of making a post like this myself.
Geroyuni
67 posts
Joined February 2016
Geroyuni
Keeping as few pinned topics as possible helps with the visibility of the guidelines and other important threads. Many of the currently pinned threads can be removed from pin or merged. Position in the list also matters, the most important pins should go first.
OsuMe65
1,519 posts
Joined May 2011
OsuMe65
"Thread Nuking" is a method, that I myself use, (tho only deadbeat and the rest of the guys know what that means here) of marking down mixed stuff and I still use it as often as possible. is where the thread needs locking/sending it to the pit wasteland depending if the skin can be turned from mixed to OG or nah. Before, most of the threads "nuked" by myself are guaranteed locked/gone.
Might use this "system" once more.
Stefan
Global Moderator
10,393 posts
Joined January 2011
Stefan
t/611278 I hope this helps at least for a bit, so the endless list of stickied threads stops from now.
Lyawi
Global Moderator
3,336 posts
Joined February 2015
Lyawi

Stefan wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/611278 I hope this helps at least for a bit, so the endless list of stickied threads stops from now.
Great
RockRoller
Global Moderator
2,403 posts
Joined May 2016
RockRoller

Stefan wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/611278 I hope this helps at least for a bit, so the endless list of stickied threads stops from now.
Looks good and should help.

In the Rules should stand that skins made with osu!skinner are mixed skins. Many people dont know that and post their on this site created skins in this forum.
Stefan
Global Moderator
10,393 posts
Joined January 2011
Stefan
Generally the thread should include guidelines AND rules. Because somethings are minor while others (not posting mixed skins) are rules that exist since years. And because nobody in the world goes around and read two seperated threads.
h3oCharles
1,488 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
Finally deadbeat woke up :D

and yea, this forum is a mess indeed, all of the mixed skins threads should have either a different section or be trashed/locked

and deadbeat should watch this as well, despite if he watched it already or not

EDIT1: I think we should also trash all of the question threads since they are already solved and they only make a mess
and deadbeat should REAAALLY look at completed skins queue, there is too much for my taste
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat

h3oCharles wrote:

and deadbeat should REAAALLY look at completed skins queue, there is too much for my taste

Why can't you?
Why can't anyone else?
Why just me?
It is because I'm the who made the thread and you think you can't help?
Or is no one else willing to actually put real effort into helping?
Threads like this help in the sense that it can wake up moderators, but why should we be the ones to do everything. Someone else could of easily made a new compendium of skins and I would of gladly pinned it. Someone else could of easily taken over the completed skins queue and I would of gladly help with mod actions.
Just because I/we are moderators, doesn't mean we have to do everything. Just remember that.
RockRoller
Global Moderator
2,403 posts
Joined May 2016
RockRoller

deadbeat wrote:

h3oCharles wrote:

and deadbeat should REAAALLY look at completed skins queue, there is too much for my taste
Why can't you?
Why can't anyone else?
Why just me?
It is because I'm the who made the thread and you think you can't help?
Or is no one else willing to actually put real effort into helping?
Threads like this help in the sense that it can wake up moderators, but why should we be the ones to do everything. Someone else could of easily made a new compendium of skins and I would of gladly pinned it. Someone else could of easily taken over the completed skins queue and I would of gladly help with mod actions.
Just because I/we are moderators, doesn't mean we have to do everything. Just remember that.
Please look at my PM. I wrote something about it. Depending on your answer, I would take care of/ help with the compendium.


Put sure, that you are a mod shouldnt mean that you need to do that.
h3oCharles
1,488 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
lol sorry, forgot to mention that I'm salty about this situation lately

I did list out some, however moving them about is another thing
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat

Stefan wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/611278 I hope this helps at least for a bit, so the endless list of stickied threads stops from now.

Going back to this for a second. This does kind of help a little, but unless we remove other stickied threads or announcements, it's just another stickied thread/announcement. We need to actually start unpinning some of them so there's less clutter
Geroyuni
67 posts
Joined February 2016
Geroyuni

deadbeat wrote:

Stefan wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/611278 I hope this helps at least for a bit, so the endless list of stickied threads stops from now.

Going back to this for a second. This does kind of help a little, but unless we remove other stickied threads or announcements, it's just another stickied thread/announcement. We need to actually start unpinning some of them so there's less clutter


Atleast in the old site, a lot has been unpinned. Something's wrong with the new website and it isn't updating pins (nevermind I'm dumb)
I'm also unable to see a lot of images (http://i.imgur.com/fYJNDdB.png) and it's taking quite a while to load anything.
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Stefan
Global Moderator
10,393 posts
Joined January 2011
Stefan

deadbeat wrote:

Stefan wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/611278 I hope this helps at least for a bit, so the endless list of stickied threads stops from now.
Going back to this for a second. This does kind of help a little, but unless we remove other stickied threads or announcements, it's just another stickied thread/announcement. We need to actually start unpinning some of them so there's less clutter
I haven't unpinned anything yet since I wasn't sure what you guys consider as important to keep pinned and what not. Obviously I was expecting to unpin threads after this one has been put in announce.
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