Timperjuncio wrote:

Easy Difficulty

00:10:982 (4) - try to blanket this one with the previous one
00:18:618 (3,1) - blanket them correctly
00:24:073 (2,3) - ^
00:27:345 (2,3) - ^
00:33:345 (1,2) - ^
00:38:254 (3,4) - ^ (I am going to stop pointing out this mistake as it is repeated for the whole song. Work more on your blankets!)
00:42:618 (2,3) - I would change the order right here (2 on 3, 3 on 2)

Normal Difficulty

00:00:073 (1) - Make this one look like 00:01:709 (4) -
00:04:436 (3,4) - Blanket them correctly (I am going to stop pointing out this mistake as it is repeated for the whole song. Work more on your blankets!)
00:09:345 (6,1) - maybe you should try to separate them a bit more so they don't get in touch
00:13:164 (1,2) - weird angle
00:15:345 (5,6) - maybe you should try to separate them a bit more so they don't get in touch
00:19:436 (1) - replace it with 2 circles so it follows the song better
00:43:164 (1,2) - use that slider to blanket the circle (correctly ^^)
00:45:618 (1) - replace it with 2 circles so it follows the song better

YashaPlay's Hard Difficulty

00:00:345 (2,4) - stack them
00:00:345 (2,5) - Those sliders are very very weird. Try to make them look different so they look nicer!
00:03:073 (3,5) - stack them
00:03:891 (5,1) - blanket them correctly
00:27:345 (2,3) - blanket them correctly
00:27:345 (2,4) - stack them
00:28:709 (4,6) - stack them
00:35:527 (2) - really easy to map, sure. Doesn't follow the rhythm tho
00:45:618 (9,1) - blanket them correctly
00:48:072 (4,5) - ^

I love that song. Undertale is love <3

All edit thanks so much !

Toshino Kyoko wrote:

M4M From #modreqs :3

1. Timing : Offset : 120ms
   Bpm : ok
   Time signature :3/4
   
   Si tu écoute bien et si tu compte (1, 2, 3..) en meme temps que le bpm, tu vas te rendre compte que en comptant par 4, le métronome sonne bizarre, aussi, chaque "répétition de piano" se font tout les 3 mesures, donc 3/4 time signature (je sais pas c'est quoi en francais)
2. Si tu veux mettre in kiai, tu devrais plutot utiliser un "inherited timing point", ce sont les lignes vertes, elles te permettent de changer la vitesse des sliders, le volume et de mettre un kiai sans utiliser une ligne rouge, qui doit etre utiliser que pour le bpm. Le raccourcis pour en ajouter est ctrl+maj+p ou sinon tu peux utiliser la petite croix verte en bas a droite
   
3. Tu devrais aussi utiliser tout le playfield au maximum
   
   Bon ok c'est une map de 50sec mais pour tes prochaines maps pense bien a tout utiliser
4. Bon j'ai du mal a expliquer, donc je te recommande fortement de regarder les videos de Pishifat si tu comprend bien l'anglais : https://www.youtube.com/user/Pishifat
5. D'autres petits conseils : Evite ce genre d'overlap dans les basses difficultés, c'est pas très beau a voir
   Pour les sliders en S, c'est mieux que tu les fasse comme ceci

Et donc voila, j'espere que ces petits conseils t'auront aider, je te conseil fortement de regarder les videos de Pishifat :3
Voila, Bonne journée et Bonne chance ! :3

Ahah mec merci beaucoup je garde ca en tete

Prinsep wrote:

Hihi, i saw your map in the mod req chat ;3

i dont think there's much to say about easy and normal anymore (atleast to me...)

so this mod will be on the hard difficulty

ok, for the first 5 seconds of the hard difficulty. the map uses some over lapping sliders, but the rest of the map suddenly doesnt, that's a major variation on a repetitive song, which is not good.
00:15:392 (1,2,3,4) - same with these things^
00:21:120 (2,3) - and this^ ( it's the only one in the map and doesnt repeat)
00:50:846 (1) - i believe this slider could be shaped alittle better (unless that shape was intended)
00:18:665 (2) - this kinda skips a few noises and the song kinda has an object stuck to every half beat, but the song would be so repetitive if it wasn't there >_<

the diff needs to be more consistent with it's variations especially with the reverses on the sliders during the whole song

overall, i think the bg should be changed? it's kinda low quality. the song is kinda calm and repetitive so i dont there is much to say about the diff. :p

Thanks for this mod All changed

leo16834 wrote:

Hi from #modreqs

Easy

00:20:847 (2,3) - because your Distance is 0.8 ,But this one distsnce is 0.7 ,the gap is so big. Turn to 0.8
00:35:574 (3,1) - a little overlap slider 1 ,and slider 1 distance turn to 0.8
00:47:029 (2,3) - slider 3 distance is 0.92 to over ,down to 0.8
00:52:483 - add a circle


Normal

00:00:120 (1,2) - Fix blanket
00:26:301 (1,2) - ^
00:52:483 - add a circle

Hard

00:03:120 (3,4) - Fix blanket
00:03:938 (5,1) - ^
00:17:574 (5,1) - ^
00:18:665 (2,3) - ^
00:24:665 (3) - Stack it with 00:23:574 (9) -
00:35:574 (2,3,4) - Fix blanket
00:52:483 - add a circle

Good luck~

All fixed Thanks !

1. bg.png is not used
2. Only YashaPlay's hard has any hitsounds? Hitsounding is very important for improving the experience of a map.
3. You don't have a preview point set.

1. 00:05:029 (3,4) - For example, 3 could be made into a reverse slider, and a circle placed at 00:06:665 -
2. 00:09:392 (3) - This could be a circle and then a 1/1 slider at 00:09:938 -
3. 00:22:483 (3,1) - Or something like switching this to be a circle then the slider.

1. 00:05:029 (4) - I think.. this goes a pixel or two offscreen. Raise it a bit just to be safe.
2. 00:03:665 (2) - Move this to 00:03:392 - instead. That way the reverse follows the 3 notes, and there's a brief pause after it just like there is in the song.
3. 00:09:392 (6) - This could be made into a circle instead to have a pause like there is in the song.
4. 00:10:483 (2,3,4) - I think this should be a slider and then two circles instead. As 00:11:029 (4) - is where the sound of the song changes from the normal DU-DU-DU-DU.
5. 00:16:483 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - How about this? To give the player a bit of a pause, and so that 00:18:120 (5,6,7) - which are the same two sounds repeated are mapped the same way.
6. 00:26:847 (2,3,4) - You generally want to avoid overlaps like this, it can make a pattern look more cluttered.
7. 00:28:483 (5,6) - ^
8. 00:29:846 (2) - If you applied the point for 00:03:665 (2) - , move this to 00:29:574 - as well.

1. Example of changing rhythm: 00:00:120 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:06:938 (1,2,3,4) - these are completely different despite being the same in the song.
2. 00:02:574 (2,3) - Although this is distance snapped, the way they are positioned makes (3) look unsually close to (2). You could do something like this instead.
3. 00:13:756 (2,5) - 00:21:938 (5,7) - plz avoid overlaps like this, it looks pretty messy ;-;
4. 00:29:029 (5) - This slider is for some reason using the old slider formula, so it's not nicely curved. Try deleting the middle anchor and readding it, that'll make it look better
5. 00:48:119 (4,5) - Maybe make 5 blanket 4?
6. 00:50:028 (8,9) - ^

Noffy wrote:

Hello, M4M as arranged in PM
My set > https://osu.ppy.sh/s/634876
Just mod in return however much you feel is fair, especially since mine is quite a lot larger.

If there's any questions, just PM me.

[General]

1. bg.png is not used
2. Only YashaPlay's hard has any hitsounds? Hitsounding is very important for improving the experience of a map. Yeah i gonna fix it too
3. You don't have a preview point set.

Fix

[Easy]
A lot of the important downbeats are skipped over (the big white ticks).. These are usually very strong, so having them as sliderends can feel unintuitive to even a new player.
At least, be sure to make the points when the basic rhythm repeats clickable. This can help with your consistency in the long run.

1. 00:05:029 (3,4) - For example, 3 could be made into a reverse slider, and a circle placed at 00:06:665 -
2. 00:09:392 (3) - This could be a circle and then a 1/1 slider at 00:09:938 -
3. 00:22:483 (3,1) - Or something like switching this to be a circle then the slider.

And generally keeping that idea in mind when looking at the rest of your difficulty. It's important especially in easies to carefully think about what you want to emphasize and how.
The end or reverse of a slider are less intense to play than the start of a slider or clicking a circle.

The placements in this difficulty are a lot nicer than normal's, so I have nothing else to say.

All fixed


[Normal]
Generally, I think there's too much constant 1/2 which takes away from the feeling of the song which has occassional pauses.
Most suggestions are for this.
Also, I feel like the placements in this difficulty are a lot more clustered than in Easy's. That is more of an overarching problem though, so it's difficult to just list any specific point to change.

1. 00:05:029 (4) - I think.. this goes a pixel or two offscreen. Raise it a bit just to be safe.
2. 00:03:665 (2) - Move this to 00:03:392 - instead. That way the reverse follows the 3 notes, and there's a brief pause after it just like there is in the song.
3. 00:09:392 (6) - This could be made into a circle instead to have a pause like there is in the song.
4. 00:10:483 (2,3,4) - I think this should be a slider and then two circles instead. As 00:11:029 (4) - is where the sound of the song changes from the normal DU-DU-DU-DU.
5. 00:16:483 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - How about this? To give the player a bit of a pause, and so that 00:18:120 (5,6,7) - which are the same two sounds repeated are mapped the same way.
6. 00:26:847 (2,3,4) - You generally want to avoid overlaps like this, it can make a pattern look more cluttered.
7. 00:28:483 (5,6) - ^
8. 00:29:846 (2) - If you applied the point for 00:03:665 (2) - , move this to 00:29:574 - as well.

Wow, I not thought they are a lot of error in this diff thanks all fixe !

[YashaPlay's Hard]
While changing up the rhythm occassionaly for variety is good, especially in a repetitive song like this, I think this difficulty does it far too much. As a result, it doesn't really feel like it's following the song. Instead it's more like fairly random rhythms snapped to 1/2.
An example is how you go between using 1x repeats, 2x repeats, 3x repeats, and even 4x repeats.. without any obvious reason as to why.
Fixing this to where the same parts of the song get mostly similar rhythms will require big changes in the map, but this would be very important for its quality.

On the other hand, you seem to have a good grasp of placing your objects. So once this is fixed, I think this difficulty will be pretty good.

1. Example of changing rhythm: 00:00:120 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:06:938 (1,2,3,4) - these are completely different despite being the same in the song.
2. 00:02:574 (2,3) - Although this is distance snapped, the way they are positioned makes (3) look unsually close to (2). You could do something like this instead.
3. 00:13:756 (2,5) - 00:21:938 (5,7) - plz avoid overlaps like this, it looks pretty messy ;-;
4. 00:29:029 (5) - This slider is for some reason using the old slider formula, so it's not nicely curved. Try deleting the middle anchor and readding it, that'll make it look better
5. 00:48:119 (4,5) - Maybe make 5 blanket 4?
6. 00:50:028 (8,9) - ^

Yeah all fixed

Cute song, best of luck improving the set !

p.s. for future reference, modders are less likely to mod when they see an 8 day old mod with kudosu but no reply. It can make it look like you've given up on the set, or make them think you wont reply to them if they do mod.

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yShadowXOP_ wrote:

M4M

YashaPlay's Hard

00:08:301 (4) - this is off screen Of course
00:16:483 (3) - NC? yeah
00:18:665 (2) - i think here could not be a giant reverse because there's sound in the red tick Yeah
00:37:756 (6) - i think here could not have a repeated reverse by the fact of changing the sound It's better with



Good Luck~

Ward74 wrote:

yShadowXOP_ wrote:

M4M

YashaPlay's Hard

00:08:301 (4) - this is off screen Of course
00:16:483 (3) - NC? yeah
00:18:665 (2) - i think here could not be a giant reverse because there's sound in the red tick Yeah
00:37:756 (6) - i think here could not have a repeated reverse by the fact of changing the sound It's better with



Good Luck~

_MasterTSP wrote:

- IMO, you should rename this diff to advanced, the spacing between notes is too wide to be a H.D. Fixed.

00:10:483 (4) - There's sound on the red tick, remove/shorten this slider, and add more notes. Fixed.

00:17:574 (6) - NC Here, or 00:16:483 (4) - here. Fixed.

00:23:574 (4) - Same thing as the first one. they were all the same when i checked/fixed. but Fixed.

00:33:392 (2,3,4,5,6) - This pattern is unconfortable for hard maps. i think its fine, maybe the 2nd double stack could use some work but what ever.

00:18:665 (9,10) - ^ kinda fixed but shortening the jumps and making it more equally spaced.

00:24:665 (6) - Try to repeat this 00:11:574 (6,7) - Here. Fixed.

00:36:665 (4) - Same thing as the first and the third one. im pretty sure that was the same for the first and third last time i checked.


Good luck with your map, aways take criticism as an oportunity to gain knowledge and skill!

Ward74 wrote:

Noffy wrote:

Hello, M4M as arranged in PM
My set > https://osu.ppy.sh/s/634876
Just mod in return however much you feel is fair, especially since mine is quite a lot larger.

If there's any questions, just PM me.

[General]

1. bg.png is not used
2. Only YashaPlay's hard has any hitsounds? Hitsounding is very important for improving the experience of a map. Yeah i gonna fix it too
3. You don't have a preview point set.

Fix

[Easy]
A lot of the important downbeats are skipped over (the big white ticks).. These are usually very strong, so having them as sliderends can feel unintuitive to even a new player.
At least, be sure to make the points when the basic rhythm repeats clickable. This can help with your consistency in the long run.

1. 00:05:029 (3,4) - For example, 3 could be made into a reverse slider, and a circle placed at 00:06:665 -
2. 00:09:392 (3) - This could be a circle and then a 1/1 slider at 00:09:938 -
3. 00:22:483 (3,1) - Or something like switching this to be a circle then the slider.

And generally keeping that idea in mind when looking at the rest of your difficulty. It's important especially in easies to carefully think about what you want to emphasize and how.
The end or reverse of a slider are less intense to play than the start of a slider or clicking a circle.

The placements in this difficulty are a lot nicer than normal's, so I have nothing else to say.

All fixed


[Normal]
Generally, I think there's too much constant 1/2 which takes away from the feeling of the song which has occassional pauses.
Most suggestions are for this.
Also, I feel like the placements in this difficulty are a lot more clustered than in Easy's. That is more of an overarching problem though, so it's difficult to just list any specific point to change.

1. 00:05:029 (4) - I think.. this goes a pixel or two offscreen. Raise it a bit just to be safe.
2. 00:03:665 (2) - Move this to 00:03:392 - instead. That way the reverse follows the 3 notes, and there's a brief pause after it just like there is in the song.
3. 00:09:392 (6) - This could be made into a circle instead to have a pause like there is in the song.
4. 00:10:483 (2,3,4) - I think this should be a slider and then two circles instead. As 00:11:029 (4) - is where the sound of the song changes from the normal DU-DU-DU-DU.
5. 00:16:483 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - How about this? To give the player a bit of a pause, and so that 00:18:120 (5,6,7) - which are the same two sounds repeated are mapped the same way.
6. 00:26:847 (2,3,4) - You generally want to avoid overlaps like this, it can make a pattern look more cluttered.
7. 00:28:483 (5,6) - ^
8. 00:29:846 (2) - If you applied the point for 00:03:665 (2) - , move this to 00:29:574 - as well.

Wow, I not thought they are a lot of error in this diff thanks all fixe !

[YashaPlay's Hard]
While changing up the rhythm occassionaly for variety is good, especially in a repetitive song like this, I think this difficulty does it far too much. As a result, it doesn't really feel like it's following the song. Instead it's more like fairly random rhythms snapped to 1/2.
An example is how you go between using 1x repeats, 2x repeats, 3x repeats, and even 4x repeats.. without any obvious reason as to why.
Fixing this to where the same parts of the song get mostly similar rhythms will require big changes in the map, but this would be very important for its quality.

On the other hand, you seem to have a good grasp of placing your objects. So once this is fixed, I think this difficulty will be pretty good.

1. Example of changing rhythm: 00:00:120 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:06:938 (1,2,3,4) - these are completely different despite being the same in the song.
2. 00:02:574 (2,3) - Although this is distance snapped, the way they are positioned makes (3) look unsually close to (2). You could do something like this instead.
3. 00:13:756 (2,5) - 00:21:938 (5,7) - plz avoid overlaps like this, it looks pretty messy ;-;
4. 00:29:029 (5) - This slider is for some reason using the old slider formula, so it's not nicely curved. Try deleting the middle anchor and readding it, that'll make it look better
5. 00:48:119 (4,5) - Maybe make 5 blanket 4?
6. 00:50:028 (8,9) - ^

Yeah all fixed

Cute song, best of luck improving the set !

p.s. for future reference, modders are less likely to mod when they see an 8 day old mod with kudosu but no reply. It can make it look like you've given up on the set, or make them think you wont reply to them if they do mod.

Thanks for you big mod !!

_MasterTSP wrote:

Quick info.

I Have not-so-good experience with Low-BPM maps.
This should explain the short mod. I really wanted to make something bigger & progressive.
Sorry for that and the delayed mod.

Easy

- This diff's aesthetics are great. (Remember this, I'll use this as an example.)

00:03:392 (1) - Try to avoid red ticks on Easy difficulties, Easy diffs are for absolute newcomers and for those who like some ez #1's lol, this confuses new players, think about it, when you just started the game, you couldn't even follow the sliders correctly... Those velocity changes will most definitely confuse the new player. if they feel confident about new mechanics, they go one diff higher, am I right? Try to do a straigh slider.


00:09:938 (1) - ^

00:16:483 (1) - ^

00:26:301 (1) - ^

00:29:574 (1) - ^

00:37:210 (2) - ^

00:42:665 (1) - ^

00:49:210 (1) - ^

All fixed thanks ! It's true i forgot when i make a easy i should use 1/1 ^^

Normal

- This will be a short one, I just got to say that this diff's aesthetics could be improved. Try to use Easy as reference.

00:00:120 (1) - This slider I.E. could be round. Why not, i think it's better when it's round but i use too much slider round so i try to avoid to make slider round

Good luck with your map, aways take criticism as an oportunity to gain knowledge and skill!


~ MasterTSP.

greenwood0301 wrote:

French part english is below

Salut ! M4M de ta Queue !

Comme demandé, voici des suggestion de hitsound !

Générale

Les couleurs de combo sont différente entre les diff que tu a faite et tes GD. Soit tu change tout pour les tiennes ou pour tes GD. Exemple :
Diff: Easy Couleur Bleu ARGB: 0,217,217

Diff: YashaPlay's Hard Couleur Bleu ARGB: 81,211,255

S'applique pour les autres couleurs aussi.

Hitsound

Easy

00:03:392 Ajoute un Finish ici

00:04:483 ^

00:05:574 ^

00:06:665 Ajoute un Clap ici

00:07:756 ^

00:08:847 ^

00:11:029 Ajoute un Whistle ici

00:12:665 ^

Et Après tu fait la même chose pour les autre pattern !

Si sa te plait, reproduit les sur tes autres maps en respectant les différent pattern !

English Box

Hi M4M from your Q

As requested in your Q, here's some hitsound sugestion

General
The combo colors between the diffs you made and your GDs aren't the same. Either you change your diffs or your GD. Exemple :
Diff: Easy Color Blue ARGB: 0,217,217

Diff: YashaPlay's Hard Color Blue ARGB: 81,211,255

Apply for the colors as well.

Hitsound

Easy

00:03:392 Add a Finish here

00:04:483 ^

00:05:574 ^

00:06:665 Add a Clap here

00:07:756 ^

00:08:847 ^

00:11:029 Add a Whistle here

00:12:665 ^

After, you repeat while following the patterns !

If you like it, reproduce it on your other maps whilse still follow the patterns !

GL HF for the rank !

FruityEnLoops wrote:

wesh

Le timing est pas bon, le bpm l'est, mais pas la signature
tkt ca prend 2 secondes

Va dans les options du timing
et au lieu de mettre le point de timing en 4/4 en bas a droite tu le met en 3/4 (si tu comprend pas clique la c'est un lien)
ca change rien, mais tu pourras jamais rank ta map si tu laisse comme ca Fix

en passant, les kudos change rien
même un attardé peut faire une map et mettre des kudos dessus
les kudos servent qu'a faire les maps loved maintenant Je peut demander a un BN de bubbled ma map lorsque je strike des kudosu

voila des bisous



(j'peut faire une GD? j'ai rien a foutre de ma vie)

Lian- wrote:

Hello, here's a little Hitsound mod.

Well, I do not know how to explain it, But first I would like the main hit to be Soft and the whistle

Then try to do so, start a whistle and jump a circle and put another whitle and so on until the end

Example
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8625067

But if you do not understand how to do it, I can do it for you: D

I hope it helps you