1. Futsuu (2.51 stars, 750 notes)
2. Kantan (1.76 stars, 412 notes)
3. Muzukashii (3.26 stars, 1133 notes)
4. Oni (4.99 stars, 1547 notes)

game rock wrote:

Hi! ^w^

Request from Gemu's Taiko & Mania Queue (NM, M4M & GD)


d
k
D (Big d)
K (Big k)

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1. 02:28:773 (18) - Remove to keep consistency with 01:22:577 (16,17,18,19,20,21,1) - intentional to make 1st kiai sparser.but rearranged to make it more consistent with last kiai.
2. 02:57:795 (32) - Remove the finish to keep consistency and sequence with 02:52:903 (25,28) - those two parts are a little differrent, at 02:57:795 there are 2 strong beats, so i put finisher there.

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  Very nice!
  glad to hear that!

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1. 01:52:414 - Is better add a d to keep the drums. retained for consistency with 00:47:197 -
2. 02:02:849 - Add a d to keep the rhythm you are doing here 02:01:871 (30,31,32,33) - keep for smoother transition from futsuu to oni, and to only emphasize strong vocal at 02:03:012 (37,38) -

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1. 00:41:898 (123) - Change to k to flow much better. drum sound is lower so it's fine
2. 02:43:365 (30) - Change to k sounds very nice. i think current pattern would emphasize the synth sound at 02:43:528 -
3. 03:25:268 (1) - Change to k to flow much better the stream 03:25:186 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - well, i intend to build the intensity by gradually increase the amount of kat in the stream (03:25:186 (1,4,5,8,9,10,12,13,14,15) - )

Amazing map! I hope my mod has been helpful :33, Good Luck!

Protonori wrote:

From my modding queue~
Remember that these are suggestions. Feel free to ignore them.

[Futsuu]
Seems okay to me.
I'll make the same suggestion as the other diffs tho, concerning the vocals:
00:33:175 - Refer to Oni. In my opinion, the vocals here are too sparse here. You shouldn't follow them too closely, or it'll result in (subjectively) strange breaks like this.
same as Muzu and Oni, also in lower diffs this way is better to give breaks that's necessary for newer player

If you agree, apply to similar areas. (I don't want to annoy you by repeating myself lol)

[Muzukashii]
00:33:175 - Refer to Oni. The vocals are sparse in this section, so you shouldn't follow them too closely imo. same as Oni. additionally, since this session is very calm, following vocal only will reflect the calmness better imo
01:38:393 - ^ same as ^
01:41:490 - Same suggestion as Oni. I think you should add notes (or at least one note, like Futsuu). There are two distinct sounds here. no change to keep low density in this session

00:36:273 - k? Kantan + Muzukashii are the only diffs that don't have a note here.
Kantan is understandable, but since you used k in Futsuu and Oni, it should be present in Muzu as well.
hmm? it didn't present from Kantan until Muzukashii. Only in Oni

03:26:490 (11) - Finisher? You used a finisher in Kantan and Futsuu. There's no finisher in Oni, but you used a stream there, so it's fine. fixed!

[Oni]
00:33:175 - The break here seems a bit odd (probably because you're following the sparse vocals). Maybe add some pattern to fill in the gap:

like this. You did something similar at 00:35:784.
the two mentioned parts have different vocal, and i'd like to keep vocal mapping style in those parts

00:38:393 - Add d?
00:39:860 - Add a k here? You probably wanted to emphasize the vocals, but there is a distinct beat here.
i'd like to follow the vocal only in this session. so in the next session, the difference in the drumplay will be more emphasized with more notes density

01:38:393 - Same as 00:33:175. The break seems strange. same vocal mapping style as before
01:41:490 - k k? You mapped it at 00:36:273. at first session they have strong snare, and not in the 2nd session, that's why they are different
03:36:110 (7) - Maybe use a d here, and switch the k to 03:36:273? fixed

This is a really good set, but the sparse vocals created a few strange breaks.
That's just my opinion, of course.

Good luck with ranking this!

Nifty wrote:

From that Christmas Queue

Kantan

◾ I don't really enjoy the beginning of the song being mapped, especially in taiko. None of anything feels or sounds like it should be mapped, that's why the standard sets don't map it, and that's why I don't think you should start the map until 00:10:023 - . i prefer it to be mapped though to be consistent with other diffs
◽ 00:12:795 (6) - This is misleading since the drums are on offbeats, there's no noise here (besides the cymbal which you aren't mapping), should delete. considering the spread with futsuu, i'd keep the note here. And i don't think it's misleading since the rhythm is very simple.
◾ 03:11:001 (3) - This would be way easier to read and play if it were on the second beat, since the vocal lands on that beat and also the chorus comes in then. IMO, the guitar is less important when it comes to right here. ok. i really have dilemma here.

Futsuu

◾ From 00:31:708 - to 00:42:143 - you're mapping pretty strict to the voice, ignoring obvious spots like 00:36:273 - and 00:38:556 - , but then all of a sudden you switch to mapping to drums, using k every 1 and 3. Maybe map the first half of this section to the drums as well, or map the second half more to the voice. the first part is relatively calmer than the second part so i mapped it strictly to the vocal to reflect the calmness (and make longer breaks), and then when the 2nd part comes, mapping to the drum would make it more dynamic and intense.
◽ 00:52:251 (27) - I don't see why this note is here, remove it to put more emphasis on the K after it, right now it's needlessly removing emphasis. If you must keep it, put it on the beginning of the drumroll instead of the middle. moved
◾ 01:04:969 - There's a note here in the kantan and oni, but none in the futsuu or muzu. Perhaps move 01:04:643 (7) - this note to that beat, or just make a 2/1 break. i'd like to emphasis the strong bell sound at 01:04:643 - and create breaks before kiai for Futsuu and Muzu. But in Kantan it would create strange rhythm so i moved it 1/1 to the right. In Oni, of course i'd go all out.
◽ I don't know if you care, but the whole map feels about 4ms ahead of where the beat lands. Not unrankable, but it bothers me, especially in spots like 03:05:625 - which is more like 16ms ahead. maybe because the part is very calm, the singer is not too precise, but the timing feels alright to me.

Muzukashii

◾ 00:10:675 - I would remove the note here, as it removes emphasis from the D, and there's no notable sounds in this area besides a tiny little jingle. i don't see what's wrong with mapping the jingle.
◽ 01:04:969 - Don't forget. same as futsuu
◾ 02:49:969 - This here sounds better with a k here and a d before it, dunno why you mapped it all weird-like. because i built the structure to be focused on guitar here

Oni

◾ Grr improv mapping, at least it's consistent.
◽ 00:10:349 (4,5,6,7) - This is like what you did with the muzu but x5, there's no s o u n d, not even implied rhythm here. there is wind and chime sound here and it creates good build-up rhythm imo
◾ 00:20:784 - The run doesn't start until here, not really appreciating the unnecessary length of this pattern. cutted and rearranged
◽ 00:30:485 (115,116) - These are mapped to nothing and remove emphasis from the K. Also the weird male voice in the background here is spooky, this is a halloween map now. spooky, but if you hear closely at 25% actually drum sound as some other noises are still present. And i think this make greater flow to the next K rather than leaving it too empty
◾ 00:52:496 - You can put a d here, if you're evil like me. i'm kind
◽ 01:02:686 (263,264,265) - These should be d, since there is a bass there and there isn't even a snare hit there. considering the vocal pitch is going high, k should be fine there
◾ 01:04:643 (12,13,14) - I would make all of these finisher'd, and D K K D to follow the voice, since every voice hit is the same intensity. hmm i think i prefer to emphasis the strong bell sound at (12) and start of the kiai only
◽ The issues I brought up above repeat within their respected sections of the song.
◾ 02:52:088 - I really wish you could just use ddkkddk sometimes, especially here since the last violin pitch matches that of the next K. considering the snare sound at 02:52:170 (45,46) - i think dkkddkd would fits better here
◽ 03:04:072 (14) - Suggest deleting this note to add emphasis on 03:04:317 (1) - since you didn't finisher it. it fits the swing guitar sound though
◾ 03:25:186 - Found the spike in the retry graph. Just letting you know this is a pain in the ass to play for people at the upper 4* level (like meee). lol. consider it as challenge for improvement :3

it is alright

Poii wrote:

seperti mod

Tyistiana wrote:

Stop my laziness before christmas.
I want to see this map ranked on christmas day! >w< let's see if i can make it =v=

[ General]
Widescreen support doesn't disable yet on all difficulties except Futsuu. lol t/458306 but fixed

[ Overall]
I just wondering on 00:47:360 and the similar part that why didn't you use finisher here even the finisher sound is noticeable. the vocal is relatively weak there so i feel weird if hitting finisher. the cymbal is not that strong either.
Finisher use lag for me on the high difficulty like Muzukashii and Oni on some point.

[ Kantan]
01:09:860 - Change to k , it's not consist to the other difficulties in this point. fixed

[ Futsuu]
Very nice! :3 :3

[ Muzukashii]
03:29:099 - Why we doesn't use finisher here? Even Kantan and Futsuu are also used finisher here. Which this point is also similar to 01:08:230 imo. actually nice catch

[ Oni]
00:10:594 (6,7) - Delete would be nice , and it'll follow the main melody. I think that only 00:10:512 (5) is good enough to create build-up rhythm for Oni. This triplets will look great on Inner Oni imo. (And this triplet is too noisy for me somehow. ;w;) hmm i prefer to highlight the bell slide using triplet
00:30:485 (82,83) - Delete , this point is not have even any pitch. Let this point blank would be describe the calm of the music better. the sound still exist though. it flows better imo and calm section haven't even started.
00:41:898 - Change to k , sounds like 00:41:817 i think both can be used since it is between 00:41:817 - and 00:41:980 - but from my perspective it is closer to 41980
03:29:099 - Same as Muzukashii. fixed

Feel free to reject, it's only my opinion.
Good luck!

strickluke wrote:

hello! im here from the christmas queue

general:

move the preview point to the red tick so that 02:09:860 (4) - this sound is fully heard!! (not a big deal, just a tiny detail) sounds good, applied!

i think that I am going to agree with Nifty's previous mod. for all diffs you should not map until 00:10:023 (1) - i still don't want to skip the intro


kantan:

00:26:490 (3) - maybe make this a finish note
01:31:708 (3) - ^
fixed and added in futsuu and muzu as well

03:10:838 (3) - imo move this to the red tick after it 03:11:001 (3) - to hint at the upcoming offbeat pattern fixed

03:21:273 (21) - make this a finish note to maintain structure throughout the other kiai times (parts like 01:21:273 (15) - and 01:23:882 (18) - or 02:26:490 (15) - and 02:29:099 (19) - )
03:23:882 (25) - ^
they're kinda different. at parts you mentioned, the drum flow is changed and slower so i emphasized it using finisher, while at 03:21:273 it is still continous

futsuu:

01:03:338 (2,4) - maybe deleting these notes makes this pattern more suitable for a futsuu diff
02:08:556 (2,4) - ^
hmm i think current pattern is fine. it feels too short and lenient compared with previous patterns

muzukashii:

01:04:317 (8) - remove finish?
02:09:534 (8) - ^
retained for consistency with other diffs, and it is still a part of finisher string from 02:08:230 (1,4,7) -

03:29:099 (11) - make this a finish note to maintain consistency between the kiai times (parts like 01:08:230 (11) - and 02:13:447 (15) - ) or, just consider removing finish from all of the listed notes! added finish

01:04:643 (9,1) - this section feels kind of empty consider trying a few different rhythms to add a more interesting rhythm?
02:09:860 (9,1) - ^
i want to make some breaks before the kiai. I tried different rhythms but i think this is the most optimal that utilized the music

oni:

overall, the spread throughout this map is very good, note density wise. however, due to the lack of an inner oni on this set, there is a fairly large jump in difficulty. i think that this can be fixed fairly easily by simplifying some of the longer 1/4 streams, color wise. Inner Oni is still 'Oni' in case mapper don't make the Oni as their highest diff, but not in this case. Spread between difficulties are equally large and every difficulties follow their respective structure so i think it shouldn't be a problem.

for example, you could:
- remove the k here 00:25:920 (45) - to make this easier, but it also still follows the drums it kinda become inconsistent with 00:23:311 - so, no change
- ctrl+g these notes 00:51:925 (166,167,168) - and make this note 00:52:251 (170) - a k hmm current pattern can also follow the drum and more interesting imo
- remove the k here 01:31:137 (36) - to make this easier, but it also still follows the drums same as before
- ctrl+g these notes 01:57:143 (154,155,156) - and make this note 01:57:469 (158) - a k ^
- 03:13:365 (10) - delete this note for a small break hmm i can still hear the drum.

very nice mapset! good luck with this

Poii wrote:

YOLO

Poii wrote:

seperti mod tapi bukan?

muzu

00:43:121 (5,6) - ini gk kebalik ? kalo dari vocal, a nya dibelakang, mungkin 00:42:795 (3,4,5,6) - warnanya di swap aja ? disini gw follownya drum biar lebih dinamis dan (5) pas dengan snarenya

01:04:969 - ini yg ada bookmarknya mungkin kasih big note ? gk enak juga kalo kosong, soalnya keras gitu :3 terserah sih buat break sbelum kiai, ada aturannya sekarang gak boleh terlalu konsekutif kalo diisi note nanti gak ada break dari 00:51:925 - sampe menjelang akhir kiai

01:10:838 - jadiin kat, buat vocalnya ? tetep d buat nekenin vokal di 01:11:490 - yang lebih kenceng

02:10:186 - sama kek atas tadi :'3 sama juga

02:13:773 (16,17,18) - ini swap warnanya mungkin ? dkk karna di 17 sama 18 nadanya agak tinggi vocalnya (16) ada snare jadi lebih pas kdd menurut gw

03:07:251 (7,8,9,1) - d d k k mungkin ? 9 sama 1 vocalnya lebih tinggi, jdi biar pas aja menimbang bahwa (8) jauh lebih tinggi dari (7)
rasanya d k k d lebih baik

Futsuu

00:20:295 (25,26,27,28,29) - keknya agak susah deh, dunno sih, mungkin del 26 ? bpmnya juga lumayan cepet jdi kalo 5plet 1/2 radak susah ddelete 28

00:25:838 (1,2,3,4,5) - kalo atas diapply mungkin ini juga bisa dipertimbagkan del 4 :'3same

too good

cuma opini doang buat oni

00:33:338 - gk diisi note aja buat fill BG sound nya ? biar gk kosong aja lebih prefer ngikutin vokalnya aja disini biar gak terlalu padet, soalnya bagian ini sangat kalem

Kisses wrote:

I think a few people would appreciate a diff inbetween the muzu and Oni. The gap is really big with Oni having regular multil coloured triplets/5 note patterns and ofc those long streams.

I imagine the current spread is rankable but an extra diff would be nice for players imo.

Oh and hp 7 for kantan? doesn't seem like a lot of notes to me

Karee Pan wrote:

Hey there! Apologies, found this in my thread from a month ago, had completely forgotten it.

[Kantan]

00:25:512 (6) - Maybe just delete this note, seems excessive. (Other 3 similar spots as well) fixed
00:42:469 - Yeah i really like the switch to the doubles here when the song chances. But why do we not keep them going at 00:45:730 - 00:47:034 ? because i need to create a break somewhere, if i keep the doubles going it would be very long. And i think a varied pattern is not bad.
01:50:295 - ^ ^
03:14:099 (8) - You could consider deleting this note and making 03:14:588 (9) - a Finisher. Would represent the build up a bit better, (9) also sounds like a pretty big moment in the song. fixed

[Futsuu]

01:26:001 (36,37) - It's a pretty slow part so you could delete these 2 and make a bit of a drop for the return to the more intense section coming up. hmm it's actually a good idea, but to keep the spread between Kantan and Muzu balanced, i decided to keep the notes
02:31:219 (36,37) - ^ ^
03:14:588 (12) - Could be a finisher as well Fixed

[Muzukashii]

00:46:871 (20) - You could move this triplet to 00:46:545 - instead to keep mapping the syllables of the vocals in this section. Would also make the (20,21,22) melody cleaner. (also for the 2 other spots like this) structurally i don't want to make the triplet close with 5-plet before, so no change.
00:53:556 (47) - Chance to d cause of so strong and different (48) i think k is fine since the pitch is higher than 00:53:393 -
00:59:588 (77) - Then mirror it with a k here cause again 77 is so different dkdd is basically the mirror above pattern, and it fits the pitch decrease here
These 3 ^ to all three sposts like this same as ^
03:14:588 (18) - Could be a finisher again fixed

[Oni]

00:10:349 (4,5,6,7) - I'll agree with others in this thread, I don't like these. It feels like they ruin the very significant drop at (8) as well. ok,
removed
00:30:485 (82,83) - ^ i'm still not agree for this. I think the 5-plet is necessary to keep the pattern length comparable with previous sequences.
00:53:556 (177) - Muzu^ same as muzu
01:12:876 (58) - This notes steals alot of emphasis from the massive vocals at (57,60,62), deleting it probably does change the structure too much for your liking if we go with just four 1/2s. Something to consider anyway. i prefer to keep it flowing and only emphasis every end of stanzas
03:17:360 (34) - Put this to 03:17:523 ? feels weird if there is no note in the downbeat, and inconsistent with what i've done before
03:24:615 (6) - You could delete this for a bit of a breather before the tougher stream. removed 03:24:452 - instead


Hey this mapset is really good. Looking forward playing it come christmas Good luck!

xfraczynho wrote:

Here I am o/, from Christmas Q

[General]

1. 'Christmas' as tag? for obv reasons; up to you tbh, also 'xmas'
2. Volume up to 70~80 on Kiais? It feels louder than other sections
3. 01:26:817 - shouldn't this greenline be on 01:26:490 - ? kiai rhythm stops from here (also for other kiais)
4. Let's take advantage 1920x1200 is acceptable, let's try to expand +20? :')

fixed all.

[Kantan]

1. 00:12:143 (5,7) - may i suggest ctrl+g on there to emphasize ascendant melody, if you agree then 00:14:751 (8) - should be d to have consistency with 00:12:143 (5) - would prefer to keep it for consistency with higher diffs. The drum sound is descending so i think it's fine.
2. 00:46:056 (9,10) - ctrl+g also according to melody, would fit better imo i think d at 00:46:056 (9) - would fits nicely since the pitch is dropping from 00:44:751 (6,7,8) - . as for 00:47:360 (10) - k would reflect the light cymbal here
3. I think there's not problem if you move 00:50:621 (16) - 00:50:458 - and 00:51:273 (17) - 00:51:110 - according to background drum+vocal, considering bpm shouldn't be that hard to use redlines hmm it's still hard to follow imo. I prefer to keep simple rhythm when possible.
4. 01:20:947 (14,15) - ctrl+g on these also, same reason; also it would be nice to see some variation from kkdkd pattern here would like to end it with D like other diffs. But changed 01:20:295 - to d for the variation.
5. 02:26:164 (14,15) - ^ same as ^
6. 02:35:621 (4) - 02:35:458 - , 02:36:273 (5) - 02:36:110 - same reason as above. Otherwise you should move 02:36:762 (6) - so consistency with 02:41:980 (7) - would be nice same reason as before. Also 02:41:980 (7) - is different than 02:36:925 (6) - because of the presence of strong cymbal. If it's about consistency it's more referred to 02:47:360 (16) -
   Overall Kantan is pretty good, they're like all just suggestions

[Futsuu]

1. What about moving notes like 00:53:556 (31) - 00:53:719 - according to vocals? I think that sound is important and playable aswell (applies for the section) If i apply it then there will be no 2/1 rest for entire section. Structurally this way would suits a futsuu better.
2. 01:38:882 - 01:56:490 - let's include some doubles like 01:41:164 (14) - 01:41:001 - for some variation here? since this section is very calm, i think 1/2 doubles would be excessive
3. 01:04:969 - 02:09:860 (7) - what about deleting this and making K K D from 02:10:186 - ? I mean; I'm not a fan of using notes before Kiai but this is supported by vocals+strong drums so it would be nice, also 02:10:838 - 2/1 break here is enough so :'). Making this from this difficulty instead muzu would be nice you're like the 37149th person who suggest this lol so i decided to change, as k d D to be consistent with oni and give more emphasis to the start of kiai.
   ^comment: 03:15:077 - not neccesary to do it on here, there's only vocal so
4. 02:16:708 (22) - 02:16:545 - for variation on kiai also supported with vocals :p retained for the 2/1 break
5. 03:32:197 - ^ ^
6. 02:52:577 (37) - I think this could be big note cause many sounds involved, not as 02:55:186 (45) - that is actually good at small note (actually more similar to 02:57:795 (1) - ) agreed
7. 03:59:425 - this melody sounds so similar to 04:09:534 - , i think big note usage could be more consistent the drumplay is more intensive at 03:59:425 so i diffferentiate between them
   Same as Kan lol
   

[Muzukashii]

1. 00:20:132 (32,33) - ctrl+g according to melody fits good hmm i think this way is more dynamic and fits the drum better
2. 01:04:969 -, 02:09:860 refer to futsuu fixed
   I think on Kiai's some patterns are a little long, deleting some notes like: 01:07:740 (9) - and alternating between some short/larger could be better, for example i feel 01:13:773 - is a little long removed 01:14:181 (15,16) - , 02:19:398 (47,48) - , last kiai no change for more spicy.
3. 02:41:001 (9) - what about deleting this to make this chain shorter? fixed
4. 02:52:577 (34) - big note imo, same reason as fut fixed
   actually nice

[Oni]

1. 01:04:643 (12,13,14) -, 02:09:860 (12,13,14) - d K K would fit better according to same reason as above, if you want to D K K according to background bell then i can understand it tho i prefer to keep as K k d since making 01:04:643 - contrasted with 01:04:317 - would emphasis the bell sound better. And i don't make them all finisher because it would lower the impact of strong cymbal at 01:05:621 -
   I don't see any other thing here : D

Already checked spread, gonna finish this mod asap!
This is reaaaaaaally good, call me back~

Tyistiana wrote:

I want to see this map ranked on christmas day! >w<