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00:45 LMT: mirmir
00:45 Mir: lmtlmt
00:45 LMT: interested in a map i just made? :D
00:46 *LMT is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1329273 Kamelot - Liar Liar (Wasteland Monarchy)]
00:46 LMT: in case you do
00:46 Mir: sec
00:49 Mir: lets take a look
00:49 Mir: 00:00:120 (1) - nice
00:49 LMT: thanks :3
00:50 Mir: 00:42:472 (1) - hmmmmmm
00:50 Mir: the beginning is a bit small compared to the rest of the slider lol
00:51 Mir: may just be preference
00:51 LMT: maybe
00:51 Mir: 01:13:796 (3) - ow
00:52 Mir: this is a really nice vocal on the end of this
00:52 Mir: i'd try to fit it on a slider at least :x
00:53 LMT: could do that
00:53 Mir: 01:41:679 (4,1,2) - also here doesn't feel like it has a lot of emphasis
00:53 Mir: despite being a major turning point of the kiai
00:53 Mir: 01:42:031 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - all the emphasis went here xD
00:55 LMT: just following the pitch, kinda
00:55 Mir: mmm maybe you can do that with a direction change?
00:55 LMT: pitch kinda goes like up to down to up
00:56 LMT: i tried that but like couldn't make something goood out of it
00:56 Mir: or something like this maybe http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8405756
00:56 LMT: mainly cus not enough spacing
00:56 Mir: wait
00:56 Mir: a
00:56 LMT: it would need to be too big
00:56 Mir: can i send on discord
00:57 LMT: loll
00:57 LMT: uhh sure
01:00 Mir: 01:53:414 (5) - also would you consider maybe deleting this note?
01:01 Mir: unless im deaf
01:01 Mir: the drums only hit 4 times
01:01 LMT: i think i hear a snare there
01:01 LMT: well ...
01:01 LMT: ok so 4 snares and 1 kick
01:01 LMT: ...
01:01 Mir: :thinking:
01:01 LMT: 3/4 gap after that is kinda meh
01:02 LMT: so i think i'll stick to 5 notes
01:02 Mir: okay
01:02 Mir: mm why is 02:06:472 (3) - so slow but 02:08:590 (1,3) - seem like the same sound as it
01:02 Mir: shouldn't the first one be the same speed?
01:03 LMT: yup my bad
01:03 Mir: 02:16:355 - AAAAAA rip snare
01:04 Mir: i don't even think you can fix that and follow the vocals 100% so
01:04 Mir: up to you what to do with it
01:04 Mir: sounds really weird cuz that's the only place you skip it for a lot of the map
01:04 LMT: ehh not the only place
01:04 LMT: but like vocals there is so iconic
01:05 Mir: for a lot of the map not the only place ever
01:05 Mir: i mean before that part it was never skipped and for a considerable time after it isn't skipped
01:05 Mir: but i do agree vocals are iconic there
01:06 Mir: i would do something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8405813 this rhythm but it'd slightly dilute the vocals
01:06 Mir: up to you
01:06 LMT: i tried that
01:06 LMT: but it was terrible :(
01:06 Mir: :(
01:06 LMT: it was like that before
01:07 Mir: 02:33:169 (4) - why no slider i sad
01:08 LMT: made a wave slider :D
01:08 Mir: :D
01:08 Mir: 02:44:287 (3) - same but less important
01:08 Mir: 02:49:257 (1,1,2) - oh i love this
01:08 LMT: yea but that could dilute the liar liar
01:08 Mir: throws you right into the stream
01:08 Mir: yeah true
01:09 LMT: yo the sv was suggested by hikan
01:09 LMT: like that felt too good lol
01:09 Mir: 03:17:065 (1,2,3,4) - am i deaf or is this also 1/3
01:09 Mir: hikan god
01:10 LMT: it's definitely 1/4 to me
01:10 Mir: musically makes more sense to be 1/3 too :x
01:10 Mir: maybe ask some others
01:10 Mir: but 03:19:712 (1,2,3) - is definitely not 1/6 this is 1/4
01:11 LMT: it's the guitar
01:11 Mir: the guitar is 1/4
01:11 LMT: it's a little inconsistent but there are definitely 4 notes there
01:11 LMT: it's like 1/4 to 1/8
01:11 LMT: but like that's bullshit to play lol
01:11 Mir: i mean here 03:29:594 (1,2,3,4) - it works
01:11 Mir: but the previous one feels like the 1/4 stands out way more than the 1/8
01:12 Mir: i'd simplify to 1/4 instead of 1/6
01:12 Mir: since simplifying 1/4 rhythm to 1/3 rhythm is bleh to me
01:12 LMT: i simplify 1/8 to 1/6
01:12 LMT: :(
01:12 LMT: no but
01:12 Mir: it's not exactly correct snapping tho
01:12 LMT: the intention is definitely 1/6
01:13 Mir: i don't know if it's rankable
01:13 LMT: cus look at all the 1/6 i used
01:13 Mir: yeah i can tell it's intended to be 1/6 but it just doesn't sound it
01:13 LMT: it's the same sound
01:13 LMT: it sounds like 1/6 to me like wut
01:13 LMT: 03:18:300 (1,2,3,4) - like the first time it occurs
01:13 LMT: it's definitely 1/6
01:14 Mir: yeah that's 1/6
01:14 Mir: but 03:19:712 (1,2,3,4) - isn't
01:14 LMT: 4 notes
01:14 LMT: in 1/2 gap
01:14 LMT: i mean what would you do
01:14 Mir: i'd make it a normal triple
01:15 LMT: but it's not 1/4
01:15 LMT: :(
01:15 Mir: but it is 1/4 :(
01:15 LMT: it is not :(
01:15 Mir: like the guitarist failed to recreate the same 1/6 he used before
01:15 LMT: there are definitely 4 notes there
01:15 Mir: so it makes no sense imo to map what he would have played when that's not what he played
01:15 Mir: if that makes sense..
01:15 Mir: idk but im 100% sure it's 1/4
01:16 LMT: he made it almost 1/6
01:16 Mir: either way i don't wanna argue here forever
01:16 Mir: LOL
01:16 Mir: lets just move on
01:16 LMT: yea lol
01:16 Mir: but keep it in mind i guess
01:16 LMT: i stand by my hearing that there are 4 notes there and cannot be 1/4
01:16 LMT: but yeah let's move on
01:17 Mir: 03:58:977 (4,1,2) - oof
01:17 Mir: i'd misread this as continuous 1/4
01:17 Mir: maybe move the 2 away more
01:17 Mir: so that i know clearly to stop on the 1
01:18 LMT: uhh yea
01:18 LMT: did
01:18 Mir: 04:19:183 (5) - would rather triple this cuz 04:19:006 (4) - is the same rhythm but in the song there isn't a triple snare
01:19 Mir: basically 5's triple seems ignored because 4 is the same
01:20 LMT: yea i did
01:20 Mir: oh female vocalist
01:20 Mir: nice.
01:20 Mir: 05:03:388 (4,5) - ctrl+g'ing this sounds more accurate
01:21 LMT: don't know if you notice
01:21 LMT: the death growls was sung by the same person who sung the female vocals in the chorus
01:21 Mir: i had no idea lol
01:21 Mir: the change is unreal
01:21 LMT: 05:03:388 (4,5) - uh why?
01:22 Mir: hmm because the vocal sounds closer to the blue than the red
01:22 Mir: to me
01:22 LMT: oh
01:22 LMT: right hmm
01:22 LMT: ya you're right
01:23 Mir: reverse slider?
01:23 Mir: maybe?
01:23 LMT: nah i just move the circle to 05:03:565 (5) -
01:23 LMT: =_=
01:23 Mir: ah okay
01:23 LMT: 05:03:653 (1) -
01:24 Mir: ah i kinda get the stream emphasis now
01:24 Mir: i think
01:24 LMT: :D
01:24 Mir: well that's all i can see from first glance
01:24 Mir: sick map
01:24 Mir: sick song
01:24 Mir: sick everything
01:25 LMT: :DDD thanks a lot man
01:25 LMT: yo it was really helpful
01:25 Mir: np my dude
01:25 LMT: if you need kds you can post it on the thread