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Ponchiwi
[Once Upon a Time]

  • well... here we go
  1. 00:01:963 (2) - Para darle un poco mas de feeling al inicio, podrías tratar de cambiar la forma de este slider,
    para que tengas que hacer un poquito mas de esfuerzo en el siguiente slider , de la sección inicial Click Here
  2. 00:06:911 (2) - Darle mas distancia a la curva de slider lo noto muy cómodo para este patrón que me encantó como quedó , los movimientos que das con el ryuuta son muy agradables <3 Click Here
  3. 00:53:457 (1) - Porque no poner un hdash aqui? para remarcar el cambio de ritmo en la voz
  4. Ya vi que tienes varias partes con esta mismo mapping D: , entonces la misma sugerencia anterior va dedicada para estos patrones. Hago éste comentario de como jugador. porque a mi si me gustaría dar un hdash para el inicio de una nueva seccion, se que todo el tiempo hay hdahes, por la diff del map, pero otros mas no harían daño(?)
  5. 01:20:519 (9) - Mover a x=276 ? porque veo que con anterioridad hay varios patrones-hdashes de izquierda derecha, y cambiado esta nota de posición, le daria un toque mas de nerviosismo al jugador al ver que hay pasado los kiais con éxito, y en lo personal, que un map me haga sentir lo hace realmente divertido
  6. 02:01:499 (1) - Me parece bien que des un descanso al jugador con este slider, pero porque los siguiente son "demasiado fáciles" entre comillas lo pongo, ,
    creo que quedaria bien hacerlos "faciles" entiendes mi punto? ;-; osea... subirlos un escalón mas arriba, pero que igual sigan siendo fáciles para el break. A estos 3 me refiero 02:02:117 (2,3,4) -
  7. 02:24:694 (5,6,7,8) - Quizas seria mejor moverlo a x=160 para evitar que le caigan de sorpresa esa distancia de mas de la siguiente nota, ya que la seccion sigue en el break, y todavia no deberia aumentar la intensidad
  8. 04:04:282 (2,3) - aqui una sugerencia de lo que podrias hacer en este inicio de seccion Click Here
Al final pude notar que en los kiais finales si hiciste lo que yo te sugiero arriba, y en lo personal si queda mejor agregandoles esos hdashes! deberias de agregarselos.

Muy buen map como siempre Hareimu
Topic Starter
Hareimu

Ponchiwi wrote:

[Once Upon a Time]

  • well... here we go
  1. 00:01:963 (2) - Para darle un poco mas de feeling al inicio, podrías tratar de cambiar la forma de este slider,
    para que tengas que hacer un poquito mas de esfuerzo en el siguiente slider , de la sección inicial Click Here neeeh, no quiero usar formas extrañas de sliders al principio del map, quiero que sea una parte tranquila y facil de jugar porque es lo que expresa la canción, una introducción calma.
  2. 00:06:911 (2) - Darle mas distancia a la curva de slider lo noto muy cómodo para este patrón que me encantó como quedó , los movimientos que das con el ryuuta son muy agradables <3 Click Here La forma la dejé como estaba antes, pero le di 1,3x distancing.
  3. 00:53:457 (1) - Porque no poner un hdash aqui? para remarcar el cambio de ritmo en la voz No voy a poner hdashes en el principio del map, quiero que la sección 00:42:014 - que comienza aquí sea lo mas sorpresiva posible y que se diferencie de la parte calma del principio.
  4. Ya vi que tienes varias partes con esta mismo mapping D: , entonces la misma sugerencia anterior va dedicada para estos patrones. Hago éste comentario de como jugador. porque a mi si me gustaría dar un hdash para el inicio de una nueva seccion, se que todo el tiempo hay hdahes, por la diff del map, pero otros mas no harían daño(?) Hay hdashes todo el tiempo, si, pero solo en las partes que en serio se merecen tener hdashes. En el principio no hay porque es una parte muy calma, dentro de 2 minutos adentro del map tambien hay otra parte que comienza con un time signature de 6/4 que es completamente tranquila y a esa tampoco casi ni le di hdashes, solamente hay 2. Al punto al que quiero llegar es que llenar mas de hyperdashes al mapa harian que fuese peor y overmappearia demasiado los sonidos con los que se puede trabajar.
  5. 01:20:519 (9) - Mover a x=276 ? porque veo que con anterioridad hay varios patrones-hdashes de izquierda derecha, y cambiado esta nota de posición, le daria un toque mas de nerviosismo al jugador al ver que hay pasado los kiais con éxito, y en lo personal, que un map me haga sentir lo hace realmente divertido Le dí mas distancing a notas como 01:20:055 (6,7) - estas 2 (1,4x) para darle mas enfasis al final del kiai.
  6. 02:01:499 (1) - Me parece bien que des un descanso al jugador con este slider, pero porque los siguiente son "demasiado fáciles" entre comillas lo pongo, ,
    creo que quedaria bien hacerlos "faciles" entiendes mi punto? ;-; osea... subirlos un escalón mas arriba, pero que igual sigan siendo fáciles para el break. A estos 3 me refiero 02:02:117 (2,3,4) - Eh... ya son lo suficientemente faciles?
  7. 02:24:694 (5,6,7,8) - Quizas seria mejor moverlo a x=160 para evitar que le caigan de sorpresa esa distancia de mas de la siguiente nota, ya que la seccion sigue en el break, y todavia no deberia aumentar la intensidad Esta sección ya salió del break desde 02:23:767 - este momento, ya la voz retomó su intensidad usual, los instrumentos de fondo volvieron a aparecer, y creo que cuenta como un buildup al solo de guitarra que hay dentro de 20 segundos desde 02:34:901 - aca, asi que creo que puedo justificar las distancias mas fuertes.
  8. 04:04:282 (2,3) - aqui una sugerencia de lo que podrias hacer en este inicio de seccion Click Here Hecho.
Al final pude notar que en los kiais finales si hiciste lo que yo te sugiero arriba, y en lo personal si queda mejor agregandoles esos hdashes! deberias de agregarselos.

Muy buen map como siempre Hareimu Gracias.
Razor Sharp
very very nice map o: here are the flaws/things that could be better that i found :3

00:57:478 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I can see how you wanted this to be, and it plays pretty good as it is. But the sudden direction change at 00:57:942 (8) - took me by surprise tbh. Didnt expect such a sharp turn. Why not move the slider tail of (8) too x384 y296? This wont make it as sharp as it currently is, and will be more comfortable to catch! Also move 00:57:787 (6,7) - too x248, as the vocals deserve hyper imo. If you do that, remember to move (8) too x480 to keep the hyper between (7) and (8)! (if you do that, (8)'s slider tail should end up at x452 y266)

01:00:571 (4,5) - The distance here made the 1/4 jump a little weird to play. Try to increase the distance between these too.

01:20:674 (1) - 01:24:385 (2) - I feel like you could have added a much more interesting way for this part. Alot of 1/2 notes could have been used. They dont even have to have forced movement. You could make 1/2 repeat sliders, almost verticaly, and then have movement when the guitar changes sound (non hypers tho). Would really recommend it. This part is kinda boring as it is now. (do as you did in 02:01:499 (1) - 02:08:612 (7) - or something similar?)

02:27:014 (5,6) - distance is way to big for the weak sounds here.

02:36:602 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try to ctrl+g (3), (4) and (5)? I find it alot more interesting to play that way.

02:39:540 (8,9,10,11) - Again, a sharp stream direction change. Would suggest to place (9) at x169 to make it more smooth.

02:51:911 (9,10) - Sharp again. Tilt (9) more up and make it smoother.

04:00:261 (1) - 04:02:658 (9) - maybe try some other patterns? This feels like a clean left right spam and i does not find it fit for the song really. The last notes can offcourse be left right with increasing distance, as i see why. But before that, try something else.

04:43:560 (1) - #ctb mapping

rest of map seems fine for me. Good work on it!
Topic Starter
Hareimu

Razor Sharp wrote:

very very nice map o: here are the flaws/things that could be better that i found :3

00:57:478 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I can see how you wanted this to be, and it plays pretty good as it is. But the sudden direction change at 00:57:942 (8) - took me by surprise tbh. Didnt expect such a sharp turn. Why not move the slider tail of (8) too x384 y296? This wont make it as sharp as it currently is, and will be more comfortable to catch! Also move 00:57:787 (6,7) - too x248, as the vocals deserve hyper imo. If you do that, remember to move (8) too x480 to keep the hyper between (7) and (8)! (if you do that, (8)'s slider tail should end up at x452 y266) All done! Also remade the curve of 2,3,4,5 to be better curved with this change.

01:00:571 (4,5) - The distance here made the 1/4 jump a little weird to play. Try to increase the distance between these too. Remade the pattern instead so that it plays differently.

01:20:674 (1) - 01:24:385 (2) - I feel like you could have added a much more interesting way for this part. Alot of 1/2 notes could have been used. They dont even have to have forced movement. You could make 1/2 repeat sliders, almost verticaly, and then have movement when the guitar changes sound (non hypers tho). Would really recommend it. This part is kinda boring as it is now. (do as you did in 02:01:499 (1) - 02:08:612 (7) - or something similar?) Added slightly tilted vertical 1/2 sliders and repeat sliders and stuff to spruce up this part

02:27:014 (5,6) - distance is way to big for the weak sounds here. Reduced

02:36:602 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try to ctrl+g (3), (4) and (5)? I find it alot more interesting to play that way. nah, I'd rather keep it with consistent shapes as the streams aren't really that special so as to provide more variation to the jumps (as I did later on the guitar solo)

02:39:540 (8,9,10,11) - Again, a sharp stream direction change. Would suggest to place (9) at x169 to make it more smooth.

02:51:911 (9,10) - Sharp again. Tilt (9) more up and make it smoother.

04:00:261 (1) - 04:02:658 (9) - maybe try some other patterns? This feels like a clean left right spam and i does not find it fit for the song really. The last notes can offcourse be left right with increasing distance, as i see why. But before that, try something else. Done, tried a different kind of pattern :>

04:43:560 (1) - #ctb mapping for the record, that slider is shaped in such a way that the sliderticks force the player to move along the reversed sounds of the ending, that's why it looks so derpy lmao

rest of map seems fine for me. Good work on it! Thanks!
Jemzuu
woahh nice mapp

Once Upon a Time


  • 01:03:200 (6) - ctrl g pls
    01:11:550 (4) - overlap with 01:11:086 (2) - pls since u did the same for 01:10:777 (1,3) -
    01:11:705 (5,1) - overlap this two as well pls
    01:17:426 (2) - i suggest just stack this to 01:16:963 (1) - instead. the sliderpoint not the sliderend
    01:17:581 (3,1) - overlap maybe? or increase space
    01:32:426 (4) - ctrl g pls
    02:00:571 (7) - NC
    02:09:385 - maybe make something like this or just follow 02:16:344 (1,2,3) -
    02:19:127 (7) - i would ctrl g this cus the vocal gives a strong beat here
    02:34:901 - lower the volume for this part plss
    02:53:766 (7,1) - stack?
    02:59:643 (1,2) - ctrl g would be a better choice here if i were u since the longer slider could emphasize the guitar and vocal more imo tho
    02:59:488 (8,2) - increase spacing after pls better if not stacked
    03:19:437 (2) - would ctrl g here
    03:20:674 (3) - 20|184 pls ;d
    03:20:674 (3) - 24|88
    03:55:854 (3) - pls remove this note and overlap the next note to 03:55:313 (1) - instead to be consistent with 03:55:004 (5,6) -
    04:00:880 - maybe make this a 1/2 slider instead overlap it to 04:01:343 (7) - after
    04:02:736 (1) - slider is kinda awkward ;w;
    04:03:199 (2) - make this a hyper to (1) to emphasize the vocal better i suggest move it to 204|220
    04:07:684 (1,7) - stack pls
    04:08:766 (8,2) - ^
    04:16:808 (4,5,6) - replace with 1/2 slider insted pls and maybe make it hyper
    04:30:493 (5) - i think this note is not needed because in the next parts u didnt add an extra note
    04:40:933 (6) - object isnt snapped via aimod
    04:41:395 (2,3,4,5) - spacing increased too fast D:

Goooodluck!! <3
Topic Starter
Hareimu

AJamez wrote:

woahh nice mapp

Once Upon a Time


  • 01:03:200 (6) - ctrl g pls done
    01:11:550 (4) - overlap with 01:11:086 (2) - pls since u did the same for 01:10:777 (1,3) - did something else instead, but kinda followed this suggestion and the one below.
    01:11:705 (5,1) - overlap this two as well pls
    01:17:426 (2) - i suggest just stack this to 01:16:963 (1) - instead. the sliderpoint not the sliderend nah, it plays better like it is rn, moving 2 to the head of 1 just emphasizes 2 more than 01:17:581 (3) - this slider here which is over a vocal line and should be more emphasized instead.
    01:17:581 (3,1) - overlap maybe? or increase space neither, there's no need to do so, doesn't really affect gameplay all that much.
    01:32:426 (4) - ctrl g pls nope, the guitar riff sound is less strong/pitched than the other ones (compare it to 01:32:736 (5) - , for example) so it should have less distancing IMO.
    02:00:571 (7) - NC done.
    02:09:385 - maybe make something like this or just follow 02:16:344 (1,2,3) - nope, there are no sounds over the red ticks and it would underemphasize the vocal line notes (02:09:540 (2,3) - ).
    02:19:127 (7) - i would ctrl g this cus the vocal gives a strong beat here I've completely remade this section to properly follow audible sounds actually, so IDK what was the thing you suggested.
    02:34:901 - lower the volume for this part plss dunno why it was 100% volume, fixed.
    02:53:766 (7,1) - stack? I see you have ocd as well, done anyway, looks better
    02:59:643 (1,2) - ctrl g would be a better choice here if i were u since the longer slider could emphasize the guitar and vocal more imo tho I can't seem to understand what do you mean with that here.
    02:59:488 (8,2) - increase spacing after pls better if not stacked still can't really understand.
    03:19:437 (2) - would ctrl g here I really hope you're not serious with having that big of a distance between notes over such a calm section this is.
    03:20:674 (3) - 20|184 pls ;d uh... those are mania coordinates? o.O
    03:20:674 (3) - 24|88 aaaaa
    03:55:854 (3) - pls remove this note and overlap the next note to 03:55:313 (1) - instead to be consistent with 03:55:004 (5,6) - umm...
    I can hear a drumroll sound over that tick that note you mentioned is? Not touching it. Also 03:54:076 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this whole is one pattern, 03:55:313 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this is another completely different pattern, no need to be consistent.

    04:00:880 - maybe make this a 1/2 slider instead overlap it to 04:01:343 (7) - after nah, keeping this whole as standalone notes.
    04:02:736 (1) - slider is kinda awkward ;w; how come? it's perfectly catchable, no droplets are overshot, you can completely catch it normally without doing any weird maneuvers, and there's not even a strong hyperdash before it so no excessive momentum either.
    04:03:199 (2) - make this a hyper to (1) to emphasize the vocal better i suggest move it to 204|220 nope, this part is the zenith of the kiai and the only recognizably high-pitched vocal is 04:03:663 (3) - here, so the hyper goes there instead of to 2.
    04:07:684 (1,7) - stack pls uh... nope, the distance between 04:07:684 (1) - and the previous/next objects is 1,5x, and 04:08:612 (7) - has 2,5x distancing before and after it as well, not gonna change that (also both objects are waaay too far apart from each other in the timeline why would there even be a need for stacking)
    04:08:766 (8,2) - ^ distancing between 04:08:766 (8,1) - these is 3x, between 04:08:921 (1,2) - these is 2,75x... yeah, not touching that either.
    04:16:808 (4,5,6) - replace with 1/2 slider insted pls and maybe make it hyper there's an audible 1/4 triplet here, so why would I use a 1/2 slider to override it?
    04:30:493 (5) - i think this note is not needed because in the next parts u didnt add an extra note deleted note
    04:40:933 (6) - object isnt snapped via aimod aaaaaa thanks for pointing that out I almost died
    04:41:395 (2,3,4,5) - spacing increased too fast D: it's the last part of the section (and you had a plethora of highly spaced patterns starting from 04:23:766 - here to prepare for it to not even notice there was an increase in distancing, and it should be significantly stronger to emphasize it correctly anyway.

Goooodluck!! <3 Thanks!
autofanboy
Hello, you, requested, me, to, mod, this, so, let's, try.

█ Optional to change --- █ Suggested to change --- █ Unrankable

[ General,]

  • Tags
  1. Add: "utaite"

    Unused Inherited Sections
  2. Remove them: 02:21:911 - , 02:59:643 -

[ Once Upon a Time]

  • Gameplay
  1. 00:01:499 (1,2) - Remove the dash here, so to remain consistency with the parts at 00:03:973 (1,2) - , 00:06:447 (1,2) - , 00:08:921 (1,2) - and suchlike. To fix this, simply move 00:01:189 (1,1) - altogether to the right.
  2. 00:05:829 (4,5,1) - This part is quite surprising to players, I thought the intro will be slightly easier so the build-up can be more obvious. Maybe curve 00:06:447 (1) - like this: *Screenshot? Note that you still have to fix the distances after amending.
  3. 00:13:870 (1,2) - Same as 00:01:499 (1,2) - . Basically FC'able by walking but it is quite a close call. Therefore reducing the distance here helps.
  4. 00:47:272 (1,2,3,4,5) - Movements here are so similar to 00:44:798 (1,2,3,4) - , guess you can apply another pattern here to make it more creative and diverse?
  5. 00:53:148 (7,8,9,10,1) - , 00:55:622 (5,6,7,8,1) - Bend more outwards? These sections are in Kiai Time so they can be more intense to fit such atmosphere.
  6. 00:55:004 (2,3,4) - ^, simply move (3) slightly to the left.
  7. 01:05:519 (4,5,6,7,1) - 01:19:591 (2,3,4) - ^
  8. 01:24:385 (1,2,3) - Maybe change (1,2) to a dash and keep HDash at (2,3)? Also emphasis is a bit weird here because (1,2) has a larger distance comparing to (2,3). To fix this, I think you can do it like this: Firstly increase the distance of 01:22:839 (3,1) - , so you can move 01:23:148 (1,2,3,1) - altogether to x:76, then shorten the distance of 01:24:385 (1,2) - to trigger just a dash by moving 01:24:849 (2,3,4,5) - to x:252.
  9. 01:40:468 (1) - Curve this slider? Pretty easy to overshoot.
  10. 02:12:323 (5,1) - HDash? To add one without breaking the whole flow: Firstly Ctrl+H 02:12:323 (5) - and place it at x:212 (original position), then Ctrl+H 02:12:633 (1) - and place it at x:300 (original position).
  11. 03:23:148 (2,3) - The anti-flow at (2) is pesky, for a better build-up, consider Ctrl+H'ing (2) and place it at x:376?
  12. 03:25:313 (4,5) - Remove HDash here to remain consistency with 00:44:488 (4) - .

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Hareimu

alienflybot wrote:

Hello, you, requested, me, to, mod, this, so, let's, try.

█ Optional to change --- █ Suggested to change --- █ Unrankable

[ General,]

  • Tags
  1. Add: "utaite" aaaaa why did I forget to add this to this map and not to the sweet cendrillon drug one, added

    Unused Inherited Sections
  2. Remove them: 02:21:911 - , 02:59:643 - done

[ Once Upon a Time]

  • Gameplay
  1. 00:01:499 (1,2) - Remove the dash here, so to remain consistency with the parts at 00:03:973 (1,2) - , 00:06:447 (1,2) - , 00:08:921 (1,2) - and suchlike. To fix this, simply move 00:01:189 (1,1) - altogether to the right. done
  2. 00:05:829 (4,5,1) - This part is quite surprising to players, I thought the intro will be slightly easier so the build-up can be more obvious. Maybe curve 00:06:447 (1) - like this: *Screenshot? Note that you still have to fix the distances after amending. done!
  3. 00:13:870 (1,2) - Same as 00:01:499 (1,2) - . Basically FC'able by walking but it is quite a close call. Therefore reducing the distance here helps. done as well
  4. 00:47:272 (1,2,3,4,5) - Movements here are so similar to 00:44:798 (1,2,3,4) - , guess you can apply another pattern here to make it more creative and diverse? Varied it a bit
  5. 00:53:148 (7,8,9,10,1) - , 00:55:622 (5,6,7,8,1) - Bend more outwards? These sections are in Kiai Time so they can be more intense to fit such atmosphere. kinda did so
  6. 00:55:004 (2,3,4) - ^, simply move (3) slightly to the left. ^
  7. 01:05:519 (4,5,6,7,1) - 01:19:591 (2,3,4) - ^ ^
  8. 01:24:385 (1,2,3) - Maybe change (1,2) to a dash and keep HDash at (2,3)? Also emphasis is a bit weird here because (1,2) has a larger distance comparing to (2,3). To fix this, I think you can do it like this: Firstly increase the distance of 01:22:839 (3,1) - , so you can move 01:23:148 (1,2,3,1) - altogether to x:76, then shorten the distance of 01:24:385 (1,2) - to trigger just a dash by moving 01:24:849 (2,3,4,5) - to x:252. All done!
  9. 01:40:468 (1) - Curve this slider? Pretty easy to overshoot. nah, keeping it like that to emphasize the whistle-like sound's pitch.
  10. 02:12:323 (5,1) - HDash? To add one without breaking the whole flow: Firstly Ctrl+H 02:12:323 (5) - and place it at x:212 (original position), then Ctrl+H 02:12:633 (1) - and place it at x:300 (original position). done.
  11. 03:23:148 (2,3) - The anti-flow at (2) is pesky, for a better build-up, consider Ctrl+H'ing (2) and place it at x:376? done in both buildups
  12. 03:25:313 (4,5) - Remove HDash here to remain consistency with 00:44:488 (4) - This kiai is a LOT stronger than the first one, so it shouldn't be exactly consistent to begin with. VY1V4's voice really picks up here.

Good luck! Thanks!
Sanyi
From my modding queue

Note: My keyboard is kinda broken - playability issues that I mention may be caused by my keyboard (in combination with my lack of skill) instead of the pattern.

Kudosu only when helpful!

General
  1. 02:01:499 - You've setted here a timing point and an inherited point at the same time. Please change the volume of the timing point to 75% since it is only allowed to change the SV with the inherited point in this case.

Once Upon a Time
  1. 00:18:200 (4,5) - I would make this one a slider to have more consistency with the rest of the intro - the single circles appear kinda random.
  2. 00:42:014 (1,2) - The spacing is overdone imo. It can catch you offguard after the break and lead to an unnecessary miss. I recommend you to reduce the distance.
  3. 01:17:426 (2,3) - I think this one should be a hyperdash.
  4. 01:20:055 (6,7) - I would move this group to x:192 since i don't think it deserves such a strong spacing here.
  5. 01:50:906 (5,6,7) - I would somehow reduce the distance here a bit, is really easy to miss here imo.
  6. 01:40:468 (1,2,3,4,1) - I like the idea, but I think the spacing should be getting lower for every slider since the sound is getting softer every time. I would also stop using back and forth for 01:41:550 (4,1) - to emphasize 01:41:705 (1) - (i.e. 01:41:318 (3) - at the right side, 01:41:550 (4) - in the middle and 01:41:705 (1) - at the left side).

This looks like I stopped modding after 01:41 but I didn't xD. Hopefully the mod was atleast a bit helpful. I think there is nothing more to do in this map except of checking once more for inconsistencies (if there are any left I haven't found them).

Pretty straightforward mapping style in this map, a bit overdone for my taste but it still works. I don't like one mapping choice though: 00:53:380 (10,1,2) - (comes more than once) - You have absolutely no spacing between the stream and the slider afterwards even though the cymbal sound is pretty strong, which makes the hyperdash afterwards feel overemphasized.

Good Luck!
Topic Starter
Hareimu

Sanyi wrote:

From my modding queue

Note: My keyboard is kinda broken - playability issues that I mention may be caused by my keyboard (in combination with my lack of skill) instead of the pattern.

Kudosu only when helpful!

General
  1. 02:01:499 - You've setted here a timing point and an inherited point at the same time. Please change the volume of the timing point to 75% since it is only allowed to change the SV with the inherited point in this case. oh shit didn't even notice that thanks for pointing it out!

Once Upon a Time
  1. 00:18:200 (4,5) - I would make this one a slider to have more consistency with the rest of the intro - the single circles appear kinda random. done
  2. 00:42:014 (1,2) - The spacing is overdone imo. It can catch you offguard after the break and lead to an unnecessary miss. I recommend you to reduce the distance. reduced to 1,5x between both.
  3. 01:17:426 (2,3) - I think this one should be a hyperdash. done
  4. 01:20:055 (6,7) - I would move this group to x:192 since i don't think it deserves such a strong spacing here. reduced a tad.
  5. 01:50:906 (5,6,7) - I would somehow reduce the distance here a bit, is really easy to miss here imo. reduced and changed the pattern a bit as well.
  6. 01:40:468 (1,2,3,4,1) - I like the idea, but I think the spacing should be getting lower for every slider since the sound is getting softer every time. I would also stop using back and forth for 01:41:550 (4,1) - to emphasize 01:41:705 (1) - (i.e. 01:41:318 (3) - at the right side, 01:41:550 (4) - in the middle and 01:41:705 (1) - at the left side). Applied the idea you suggested but in a kinda different fashion

This looks like I stopped modding after 01:41 but I didn't xD. Hopefully the mod was atleast a bit helpful. I think there is nothing more to do in this map except of checking once more for inconsistencies (if there are any left I haven't found them).

Pretty straightforward mapping style in this map, a bit overdone for my taste but it still works. I don't like one mapping choice though: 00:53:380 (10,1,2) - (comes more than once) - You have absolutely no spacing between the stream and the slider afterwards even though the cymbal sound is pretty strong, which makes the hyperdash afterwards feel overemphasized. remade those streams to follow what you've pointed out, they play better now.

Good Luck! Thanks!
Spectator
Once Upon a Time

  1. 00:42:323 (2,3) - Pretty easy to make a shit miss due to the fast SV on (3). I think it would feel better without the HDash between (2) and (3).
  2. 01:40:081 (6,7,8) - This part has a bit far jumps than I've expected, which makes them feel like over-jumped. Trying something like this would be helpful.
  3. 02:49:591 (10,1) - I feel like there should be a HDash between 10 and 1 due to the strong sound
  4. 02:53:921 (8,1,2) - Really hard to get because of the strong hyperdashes. I'd reduce the distance between 8 and 1 for a bit
  5. 02:59:952 (2,3) - I thought that the curved 3/4 slider would fit more with the song, thus I've tried something like this and I'm pretty sure it worked better than the current lineal one.
  6. 03:09:385 (5,6,1) - This is unnecessarily far imo, mind reduce it a little?
Not much to mention actually, as the map is overall very clean and well-structured

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Hareimu

Spectator wrote:

Once Upon a Time

  1. 00:42:323 (2,3) - Pretty easy to make a shit miss due to the fast SV on (3). I think it would feel better without the HDash between (2) and (3). nope, emphasis would be completely lost that way.
  2. 01:40:081 (6,7,8) - This part has a bit far jumps than I've expected, which makes them feel like over-jumped. Trying something like this would be helpful. done
  3. 02:49:591 (10,1) - I feel like there should be a HDash between 10 and 1 due to the strong sound I feel like (1) goes way better off underemphasized like that, since what I was trying to do was to emphasize 02:50:210 (2) - more because it has a cymbal sound, which 02:49:746 (1) - doesn't.
  4. 02:53:921 (8,1,2) - Really hard to get because of the strong hyperdashes. I'd reduce the distance between 8 and 1 for a bit done
  5. 02:59:952 (2,3) - I thought that the curved 3/4 slider would fit more with the song, thus I've tried something like this and I'm pretty sure it worked better than the current lineal one. replaced with a different curve instead.
  6. 03:09:385 (5,6,1) - This is unnecessarily far imo, mind reduce it a little? ok
Not much to mention actually, as the map is overall very clean and well-structured thanks! <3

Good luck!
Ascendance
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Ascendance
reposting for 2kd

I'm SUPER sick so some things might just be me not being able to play lol

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General
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  1. Difficulty Spread : AR 9.5 seems a bit high to me here actually, I'd much prefer AR 9.3-9.4, as I don't think 9.5 compliments it too well
  2. Background Size : ok
  3. Unsnapped objects : ok
  4. Audio bitrate over 192 kbps : ok
  5. Metadata Issues : ok
  6. Timeline Issues : ok
  7. Combo Colors : Combo colors don't really make too much sense to me. Is there any reason for the colors you chose?
  8. Unused Hitsounds : ok
  9. Hitsounds Issues : ok
  10. Unused Files / Other : I don't really like the BG at all actually, I'd much prefer if you used the one from the ranked sets, it fits rather nicely with the song <:

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Once Upon a Time
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General



  1. 00:09:385 (2,3) - I don't really like this weird double curve in a calm section, creates some odd flow. Maybe something more normalized would be nicer
  2. 00:16:808 (2,3) - copypasta
  3. 00:42:323 (2,3) - SV is really high here, making 00:42:787 (3) - in particular really difficult to catch imo. Maybe curving these a bit would be good? I like the transition better with it anyway
  4. 00:56:396 (3,4) - Pretty high distance, try something like this maybe?
  5. 01:00:262 (3) - strong flow into a standstill slider doesn't play too well for me, you could try turning 00:59:952 (2,3) - into a wiggle kind of to fix that
  6. 02:03:354 (1) - any reason for this one to be fully horizontal in comparison to the others? might want to value the consistency with the others here
  7. 03:22:839 (1,2) - super unexpected distance here, might be good to reduce
  8. 03:23:148 (2,3) - similar to previous transition

holy fuck this map is overrated in terms of sr, i fc'd it while being half dead lmao gl
Topic Starter
Hareimu

Ascendance wrote:

reposting for 2kd

I'm SUPER sick so some things might just be me not being able to play lol

[
General
]

  1. Difficulty Spread : AR 9.5 seems a bit high to me here actually, I'd much prefer AR 9.3-9.4, as I don't think 9.5 compliments it too well done
  2. Background Size : ok
  3. Unsnapped objects : ok
  4. Audio bitrate over 192 kbps : ok
  5. Metadata Issues : ok
  6. Timeline Issues : ok
  7. Combo Colors : Combo colors don't really make too much sense to me. Is there any reason for the colors you chose? actually they were taken from a previous bg the map had before I changed it into the fairytale title bg, but now I made a completely new bg and changed the colours accordingly.
  8. Unused Hitsounds : ok
  9. Hitsounds Issues : ok
  10. Unused Files / Other : I don't really like the BG at all actually, I'd much prefer if you used the one from the ranked sets, it fits rather nicely with the song <: Made my own one using the bg used in the taiko version!

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Once Upon a Time
]

General



  1. 00:09:385 (2,3) - I don't really like this weird double curve in a calm section, creates some odd flow. Maybe something more normalized would be nicer fixed
  2. 00:16:808 (2,3) - copypasta changed
  3. 00:42:323 (2,3) - SV is really high here, making 00:42:787 (3) - in particular really difficult to catch imo. Maybe curving these a bit would be good? I like the transition better with it anyway only curved first slider, the second one stays like it is.
  4. 00:56:396 (3,4) - Pretty high distance, try something like this maybe? ok!
  5. 01:00:262 (3) - strong flow into a standstill slider doesn't play too well for me, you could try turning 00:59:952 (2,3) - into a wiggle kind of to fix that done
  6. 02:03:354 (1) - any reason for this one to be fully horizontal in comparison to the others? might want to value the consistency with the others here it's like that to emphasize the guitar-bell-like sound audible at it's head. Did the same for 02:05:210 (1) - 02:07:066 (1) - these two
  7. 03:22:839 (1,2) - super unexpected distance here, might be good to reduce 03:22:839 (1,2) - reduced between these two instead to make it more accessible, the hyperdash into (1) is there to emphasize the fade-in sound that is also mixed with vy1v4's breathing in, as well as to emphasize the beginning of the last kiai nicely.
  8. 03:23:148 (2,3) - similar to previous transition nope, vy1v4's voice reaches it's zenith on this 03:23:612 - part, and it also emphasizes the growl she's letting out quite nicely IMO.

holy fuck this map is overrated in terms of sr, i fc'd it while being half dead lmao gl yea idk why it's 6,2* it should be 5,5* or so but I think the last part inflated it a bit too much or something
thanks for the mod!
Benita
haha here I am

Once Upon a Time
  1. 00:42:323 (2,3) - I don't really like how long this hyperdistance is with the strong antiflow on the really fast and long slider, would be cool if you could reduce it so the distance is distinctively lower than 00:42:787 (3,1) -
  2. 00:55:236 (3) - What's this note hitting? Sounds like nothing.
  3. 00:59:334 (3) - Downbeat is really underemphasised here
  4. 01:00:880 - 01:02:117 - This could be a stream and a note here 01:00:803 - . Seems you're putting a couple of streams on pretty inaudible sounds and ignore them where they have a tiny potensial of being there lol
  5. 01:03:354 (1) - Inconsistent rhythm with 00:43:560 (1,2) -
  6. 01:04:282 (3,1) - Pitch of vocal is pretty distinct here so would be cool with a hyper, generally I think you could focus a bit more on the vocals as continiously emphasising drums is quite repetitive which again leads to boring. At least in my opinion.
  7. 01:21:602 (3,1) - 01:24:076 (3,1) - I don't think these sounds call for a hyper, they kind of ruin the emphasisement on the actual kick on 01:22:839 (3,1) -
  8. 01:32:117 (2,3,4) - Flows really bad imo haha
  9. 01:35:829 (2,3,4) - 01:36:756 (1,2,3) - Why the sudden change in hyperpatterns? What makes it any different from 01:30:571 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - in terms of rhythm and intensity? If the answer is nothing then please change.
  10. 01:55:932 (3,4,5,6,1) - what why the music doesn't change at all and you didn't even put patterns like this in the entirety of the first kiai
  11. 02:12:323 (5,1) - Can you please make 5 a 1/2 slider hyper to 1 instead?
  12. 02:25:313 (9,10,1) - Again these fucking double hypers please remove hyper between 9,10. Music isn't that strong in terms of intensity
  13. 02:27:401 (9,1) - Underemphasised, please make hyper thanks
  14. 03:07:375 (2,3,4) - can u make distances equal here
  15. 03:23:148 (2,3) - Same as mentioned in the first point
  16. I liked the ending better because you managed to listen to the music better uwu

call me back desu
Topic Starter
Hareimu

Benny- wrote:

haha here I am hi

Once Upon a Time
  1. 00:42:323 (2,3) - I don't really like how long this hyperdistance is with the strong antiflow on the really fast and long slider, would be cool if you could reduce it so the distance is distinctively lower than 00:42:787 (3,1) - done
  2. 00:55:236 (3) - What's this note hitting? Sounds like nothing. removed
  3. 00:59:334 (3) - Downbeat is really underemphasised here fixed
  4. 01:00:880 - 01:02:117 - This could be a stream and a note here 01:00:803 - . Seems you're putting a couple of streams on pretty inaudible sounds and ignore them where they have a tiny potensial of being there lol I can't hear any 1/4 sounds between those two timestamps you linked,
    so no.
    Added a note 01:00:803 - here though
  5. 01:03:354 (1) - Inconsistent rhythm with 00:43:560 (1,2) - fixed
  6. 01:04:282 (3,1) - Pitch of vocal is pretty distinct here so would be cool with a hyper, generally I think you could focus a bit more on the vocals as continiously emphasising drums is quite repetitive which again leads to boring. At least in my opinion. remapped the whole kiai following vocals for hypers.
  7. 01:21:602 (3,1) - 01:24:076 (3,1) - I don't think these sounds call for a hyper, they kind of ruin the emphasisement on the actual kick on 01:22:839 (3,1) - removed hypers
  8. 01:32:117 (2,3,4) - Flows really bad imo haha remapped this guitar instrumental kiai too, so this is fixed
  9. 01:35:829 (2,3,4) - 01:36:756 (1,2,3) - Why the sudden change in hyperpatterns? What makes it any different from 01:30:571 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - in terms of rhythm and intensity? If the answer is nothing then please change. as above
  10. 01:55:932 (3,4,5,6,1) - what why the music doesn't change at all and you didn't even put patterns like this in the entirety of the first kiai also remapped this section, so I think that's fixed for now.
  11. 02:12:323 (5,1) - Can you please make 5 a 1/2 slider hyper to 1 instead? done
  12. 02:25:313 (9,10,1) - Again these fucking double hypers please remove hyper between 9,10. Music isn't that strong in terms of intensity lmao ok removed
  13. 02:27:401 (9,1) - Underemphasised, please make hyper thanks done
  14. 03:07:375 (2,3,4) - can u make distances equal here remapped section
  15. 03:23:148 (2,3) - Same as mentioned in the first point done
  16. I liked the ending better because you managed to listen to the music better uwu thank

call me back desu ok desu
Benita
The nerf train was here

Not really anything in particular but states some changes that were made so kind of relevant
22:49 Hareimu: are you in for some more benny x fairytale x hareimu threesome party
22:49 Hareimu: a.k.a. calling you back
22:49 Benny-: nominated
22:50 Hareimu: wh
22:50 Hareimu: nominate me harder
22:53 Benny-: pp map
22:54 Benny-: why does it feel like the catcher moves way too fast
22:55 Hareimu: dunno
22:57 Benny-: 01:11:705 (4,5,6) - dafuq is this
22:57 Hareimu: dunno x2
22:57 Hareimu: how should I repattern it?
22:57 Benny-: just different
22:57 Benny-: LOL
22:58 Hareimu: done
22:58 Hareimu: anything else?
23:01 Benny-: maybe
23:01 Hareimu: also be warned that the second kiai might be the most boring thing you've ever played now
23:02 Hareimu: I tried to just follow the vocals for hypers as I did in the first one
23:02 Benny-: yeah i noticed
23:02 Hareimu: but... I don't think it really worked out
23:02 Benny-: it got nerfed a lot
23:02 Hareimu: yeah
23:03 Benny-: well
23:03 Hareimu: if you think you can come up with any new, more fun pattern for any section, please let me know
23:03 Hareimu: I'll take in everything
23:19 Benny-: it makes sense to make the second kiai harder considering the music modulates and is more intense
23:20 Benny-: but at the same time it shouldn't be too far off from the first one
23:20 Benny-: which it really was in the previous version
23:20 Hareimu: and now?
23:21 Benny-: Now i feel it's more balanced
23:21 Benny-: but it's your map afterall
23:21 Benny-: I didn't ask you to change everything xD
23:22 Hareimu: no, you didn't
23:22 Hareimu: I wanted to
23:22 Benny-: yeah
23:22 Hareimu: I mapped this with a fairly old style
23:22 Hareimu: and I didn't really know what I was going for
23:22 Benny-: well i think it's most important that you're satisfied with your map
23:23 Hareimu: I am satisfied with it for the most part
23:23 Hareimu: but I'm not really sure about two things
23:23 Hareimu: one: 03:24:385 - 04:03:973 - this whole section
23:23 Hareimu: and two
23:23 Hareimu: 04:03:973 - 04:23:766 - this whole section.
23:24 Benny-: what are you unsure about
23:24 Hareimu: the former is the remap of the one you checked before, and while I acknowledge it's way better than before I still don't feel fully satisfied with it and I can't put my finger as to why is that
23:24 Hareimu: as for the latter
23:24 Benny-: aha
23:25 Hareimu: it kinda breaks the whole "follow vocals for hdashes" thing
23:25 Hareimu: and it just goes all out with repetitive input movement (old mapping style, again)
23:25 Hareimu: I could go ahead and remap that too
23:25 Hareimu: but I still don't know what to make out of it, since vocals are basically finished appearing
23:26 Benny-: I agree with that but at the same time there isn't much vocal to map in that section
23:26 Benny-: yeah
23:26 Hareimu: unless I stop using hdashes for vocals until 04:12:323 - this point
23:26 Hareimu: and use them for the last "yakusoku neee" coming out of the kiai until 04:07:684 -
23:27 Hareimu: like, from 04:03:973 - here to 04:07:684 - here and from 04:12:323 - here to 04:16:344 - here would be sections with hdashes since the vocals are present
23:27 Benny-: just do it xD
23:27 Hareimu: even though the first one is just a continuous hold vocal
23:27 Benny-: if you think it's the best
23:27 Benny-: LOL
23:27 Benny-: I don't need convincing
23:27 Hareimu: lemme see
23:29 Benny-: Well call me back (again) when you are 100% satisfied
23:29 Hareimu: hmm
23:29 Hareimu: I wonder
23:30 Hareimu: 04:05:519 - 04:07:684 - should I map this part with hdashes every beat? :thinking:
23:30 Benny-: every beat as in what
23:30 Benny-: every downbeat?
23:30 Hareimu: every white tick emphasized with hdash
23:30 Hareimu: 1/2 hdash.
23:31 Hareimu: the singer holds a vibrato until that last timestamp
23:31 Benny-: sure
23:31 Benny-: xd
23:51 Hareimu: finished
00:02 Benny-: oh
00:02 Benny-: finished?
00:02 Hareimu: kinda
00:02 Hareimu: rehitsounding some stuff
00:02 Benny-: updated?
00:02 Hareimu: not yet
00:02 Benny-: ok but im going to bed soon
00:02 Benny-: so hurry up!!!
00:05 Benny-: i already brushed my teeth >w<
00:05 Hareimu: do you think I'm ascendance
00:05 Hareimu: I can wait lmao
00:06 Hareimu: as long as you're on tomorrow
00:06 Benny-: uwu
00:06 Benny-: but i wanna icon
00:06 Hareimu: I'm almost finished
00:07 Benny-: https://benedictator.s-ul.eu/n5Ax6B17
00:07 Benny-: sending this to assdance
00:07 Hareimu: FUCK NO
00:07 Benny-: hahahahahha
00:07 Benny-: he thinks its funny its for memes
00:07 Hareimu: lmao
00:07 Hareimu: still no
00:07 Benny-: already sent it
00:07 Benny-: :^)
00:08 Hareimu: fuck
00:08 Benny-: kidding
00:08 Benny-: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... /image.png
00:08 Benny-: but i'll send u this
00:08 Benny-: my dms with assdance is rather spicy
00:12 Hareimu: lmao
00:16 Hareimu: done
00:16 Benny-: are you really done now
00:16 Hareimu: updating
00:16 Hareimu: updated
00:16 Benny-: nerfed even more xDDDD
00:17 Hareimu: oh fuck didn't remove the remap diff
00:17 Hareimu: updating v2
00:17 Hareimu: 5,99*
00:17 Hareimu: :^))))
00:17 Benny-: LUL
00:17 Benny-: not even 6*
00:17 Hareimu: meem
00:18 Benny-: it looks a lot better no
00:18 Benny-: e
00:18 Benny-: w
00:18 Hareimu: w
00:18 Benny-: 04:21:292 (1,2,3,4,1) - but you could add hypers here for the drums
00:18 Hareimu: happy iconing
00:18 Hareimu: gonna take a quick dessert
00:19 Benny-: NO DONT GO
00:19 Benny-: REEEEEEEEEE
00:19 Hareimu: nope, didn't do it before
00:19 Hareimu: not gonna do it there
00:19 Hareimu: only emphasized cymbals and 1/4 streamjumps
00:19 Hareimu: a.k.a. 04:23:380 (1,2,3,4,5) -
00:19 Benny-: :thinking:
00:19 Benny-: okay
00:20 Hareimu: also whaddoya think of my vibrato emphasis
00:20 Benny-: liked it
00:21 Hareimu: thank
Spectator
nice
-Sh1n1-
Irc via Discord with Hareimu, doesn't need kds cause I modded this map before, Gratz on BN~~

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