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Sukimaswitch - Zenryoku Shounen produced by Okuda Tamio (ani

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lialoveskench
27 posts
Joined October 2014
lialoveskench
- Modding for Insane

General
  • - I would change the AR to 9, because most of the insane maps have a ar between 8 and 9, which i think fits in insane difficulties.
    - Circle size on 4 (i like it that way more, but its not a big problem)
Notes
00:00:816 (1) - The first slider should we reversed, because it does fit the rythm better.
00:10:028 (7) - Instead of putting a circle there, you should put a longer slider at this position, because it fits the voice of the singer.
00:10:737 (2) - Here you put a circle, to keep the player to the rythm.
00:14:516 (2) - At this time you should also put a long slider, because of the singers voice instead of the circles.
00:31:052 (10) - Instead of putting the circle here, put a long slider here for filling the big space between the notes, like in this case and because of the voice.
00:31:524 (1) - Remove this because of the slider before this.
00:31:760 (11) - New Combo here
00:31:997 (12) - Short this slider to its half, so its not so long.
00:32:469 (3) - Here you put a circle.
00:32:705 (4) - Here you put a long slider because of the voice again.
00:33:650 (1) - Here should be a new combo.
00:36:721 (1) - Remove the new combo here.
00:36:957 (2) - Put new combo here
00:37:193 (1) - Remove here the new combo
00:37:666 (1) - Remove here the new combo too.

Some kudosu would be nice if i helped
gary00737
593 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
gary00737

FreakzBoy wrote:

- Modding for Insane

General
  • - I would change the AR to 9, because most of the insane maps have a ar between 8 and 9, which i think fits in insane difficulties.
    - Circle size on 4 (i like it that way more, but its not a big problem)


    ^ for DT so i will keep it
Notes
00:00:816 (1) - The first slider should we reversed, because it does fit the rythm better.
00:10:028 (7) - Instead of putting a circle there, you should put a longer slider at this position, because it fits the voice of the singer.
00:10:737 (2) - Here you put a circle, to keep the player to the rythm.
00:14:516 (2) - At this time you should also put a long slider, because of the singers voice instead of the circles.
00:31:052 (10) - Instead of putting the circle here, put a long slider here for filling the big space between the notes, like in this case and because of the voice.
00:31:524 (1) - Remove this because of the slider before this.
00:31:760 (11) - New Combo here
00:31:997 (12) - Short this slider to its half, so its not so long.
00:32:469 (3) - Here you put a circle.
00:32:705 (4) - Here you put a long slider because of the voice again.
00:33:650 (1) - Here should be a new combo.
00:36:721 (1) - Remove the new combo here.
00:36:957 (2) - Put new combo here
00:37:193 (1) - Remove here the new combo
00:37:666 (1) - Remove here the new combo too.

Some kudosu would be nice if i helped
thank you for modding
Ringer
215 posts
Joined September 2012
Ringer
hi M4M from your queue


General
01:25:382 and 01:25:896 new timing points aren't needed tho ?


Pata-mon's Normal

00:16:642 (2) - Reverse to get the strong note at 00:17:115?
00:26:091 (5) - ^
00:55:619 (4) - NC ?
01:00:343 (6) - end it at 01:01:052 instead ?


Hard

00:22:548 (3,4) - slider instead of circles ? like at 00:20:658 (3) -
01:25:969 (1) - end at 01:28:837



Insane
00:31:052 (10) - NC here instead of 00:31:524 (1) -
00:57:981 (1) - a more curved slider like the other may be better imo
01:25:969 (1) - end at 01:28:837

Short mod, hopes it help tho, nice map :)
gary00737
593 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
gary00737

Ringer wrote:

hi M4M from your queue


General
01:25:382 and 01:25:896 new timing points aren't needed tho ? it have to , because that 2 sound bpm not same.




Hard

00:22:548 (3,4) - slider instead of circles ? like at 00:20:658 (3) - i change something from my idea :P
01:25:969 (1) - end at 01:28:837



Insane
00:31:052 (10) - NC here instead of 00:31:524 (1) -
00:57:981 (1) - a more curved slider like the other may be better imo
01:25:969 (1) - end at 01:28:837

Short mod, hopes it help tho, nice map :)

thank you for modding! :)
Yugu
Elite Mapper
1,006 posts
Joined August 2013
Yugu
来水摸了

Insane
00:24:674 (5,1) - 没包好
00:25:146 (1,2,5) - 滑条头和note相同间距摆个三角形如何?
00:26:682 (3,4,1,2) - 这之间也尽量保持相同间距吧，在我的视觉上看这三个note优先于00:27:036 (5,1,2) - 这个形状
00:27:508 (2,1,2,3,4) - ^
00:30:815 (8,9,10) - 换成一个滑条吧，这里人声感觉比较大，00:30:815 (8) - 开始摆滑条也能和00:31:997 (3) - 叠
00:36:249 (2,2) - 贴太近了，不太好看，调整下位置
00:36:957 (2,2,2) - 之间间距保持一样比较好看
01:14:044 (4,1) - 看起来也太丑了.....
01:15:461 (3,4) - 还是有点贴太近

hard
00:24:438 (3,4,5,2,3,4) - 没叠好还是?
01:12:627 (1,2,3) - 感觉这里，不太好，读图方面(对于新手)
01:25:146 (6,1) - 贴太近(?

N摸不动...不太会摸低难度
就这样吧 :)
gary00737
593 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
gary00737

Yugu wrote:

来水摸了

Insane
00:24:674 (5,1) - 没包好包好了
00:25:146 (1,2,5) - 滑条头和note相同间距摆个三角形如何? 做好了 現在很完美
00:26:682 (3,4,1,2) - 这之间也尽量保持相同间距吧，在我的视觉上看这三个note优先于00:27:036 (5,1,2) - 这个形状 修改了少量
00:27:508 (2,1,2,3,4) - ^^
00:30:815 (8,9,10) - 换成一个滑条吧，这里人声感觉比较大，00:30:815 (8) - 开始摆滑条也能和00:31:997 (3) - 叠 不要
:<
00:36:249 (2,2) - 贴太近了，不太好看，调整下位置
00:36:957 (2,2,2) - 之间间距保持一样比较好看 改了點
01:14:044 (4,1) - 看起来也太丑了.....這個我左包右包 修改了點 別說他醜 \口/
01:15:461 (3,4) - 还是有点贴太近

hard
00:24:438 (3,4,5,2,3,4) - 没叠好还是? 改了
01:12:627 (1,2,3) - 感觉这里，不太好，读图方面(对于新手)不改 我要做一點的難位
01:25:146 (6,1) - 贴太近(?(? 好像沒有

N摸不动...不太会摸低难度
就这样吧 :)

謝摸 :)
Shiratori
525 posts
Joined April 2015
Shiratori
[hard]
这ar6很难受 改成ar7？
现在的音效简直精神污染 多加几种音效然后把绿线音量小点【
】
[insane]
00:30:343 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 这长串在这个难度【】 而且hard不应该超过五连
总体上我觉得塞爆比较好 你这空拍太多导致star下降

哇我不会摸图啊【】
gary00737
593 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
gary00737

Amamiya Kanade wrote:

[hard]
这ar6很难受 改成ar7？我覺得對於新手來說AR6 正好
现在的音效简直精神污染 多加几种音效然后把绿线音量小点【
】 音效我會研究
[insane]
00:30:343 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 这长串在这个难度【】 而且hard不应该超过五连
总体上我觉得塞爆比较好 你这空拍太多导致star下降 我想要突顯出想帶出的音 才會空拍

哇我不会摸图啊【】
謝摸
-Eriri-
160 posts
Joined July 2013
-Eriri-
来m4m了~

[Hard]

00:06:485 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - 这儿感觉点起来很不顺手。。 感觉滑条接note会顺一些? :)

00:23:256 - 这儿好想按些啥 这部分感觉其实跟人声也不错的...（个人打的时候就是跟了人声然后按空了XD）

[Insane]

00:30:343 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 这串虽然做的不错不过感觉可能稍微有点难了，急转弯的这些在这个星数的图里面感觉比较少见吧

00:57:508 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - 这一段的DS可以逐渐再大一些 (嫌不够难了)主要是觉得还不够爽，感觉还能把那种气氛表达得更好

01:23:965 (1,2,3,4,1,1) - 其实最后这一段我觉得可以放开一些，滑条加速还不够劲爆，起伏再激列一些(我也不知道我在说啥，可以做的更爽一些的意思吧...)

这个难度感觉是for dt?其实ar设成8也是没问题的..感觉ar是有点低了


图还是很牛逼的，dt的话也挺好玩，大问题我觉得没啥了..嘻嘻，等你一个飞升了

SPOILER
最后附上成绩吧
gary00737
593 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
gary00737

-Eriri- wrote:

来m4m了~

[Hard]

00:06:485 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - 这儿感觉点起来很不顺手。。 感觉滑条接note会顺一些? :) 這邊唷 我也試過 還是現在比較順暢一點

00:23:256 - 这儿好想按些啥 这部分感觉其实跟人声也不错的...（个人打的时候就是跟了人声然后按空了XD）這也算是難位吧
:D? 但這邊我真的很想空拍 先保留

[Insane]

00:30:343 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 这串虽然做的不错不过感觉可能稍微有点难了，急转弯的这些在这个星数的图里面感觉比较少见吧 這個先保留 因為 我自己玩的時候感覺這個很有感覺 !!! 我到底在說什麼?

00:57:508 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - 这一段的DS可以逐渐再大一些 (嫌不够难了)主要是觉得还不够爽，感觉还能把那种气氛表达得更好 這個剛好 XD 再遠就接不到

01:23:965 (1,2,3,4,1,1) - 其实最后这一段我觉得可以放开一些，滑条加速还不够劲爆，起伏再激列一些(我也不知道我在说啥，可以做的更爽一些的意思吧...) 這個改了點 分開也是比較好一點 畢竟音樂很大聲

这个难度感觉是for dt?其实ar设成8也是没问题的..感觉ar是有点低了 改了8 ~


图还是很牛逼的，dt的话也挺好玩，大问题我觉得没啥了..嘻嘻，等你一个飞升了 耶~~~~~~

SPOILER
最后附上成绩吧
強 !!!!!!!!!


感謝MOD 謝謝大佬 :P
Sulfur
278 posts
Joined December 2014
Sulfur
Sorry for delay

nm from my q

  • Hard
  1. 00:01:288 (2,3) - You can make those looke a bit neater by moving (3) to x:373 y:159
  2. 00:04:477 (6) - I dont think its necessary to make a circle here, theres barely anything on this blue tick
  3. 00:07:193 (3,4) - I think it would be nice to space those out (something like this maybe) so this prominent guitar on 00:07:430 - emphasized a bit better
  4. 00:23:020 (6) - Also I'd sugeest to change this one to a 1/2 slider, those 00:23:020 (6,1,2) - 2 1/1 gaps i a row in this somewhat intense section feesls really out of place
  5. 00:24:438 (3,4,5) - I dont think its quite good idea to stack those 1/4s, it looks way to similar to stuff like 00:36:721 (1,2) - with 1/2 gaps and may cause reading problems for this difficulty level of players. Perhaps you can try to do something like this so 1/2 and 1/4 gaps is somewhat different visually. Same thing applies to 00:26:327 (2,3,4) - 00:27:272 (1,5,6,7) - etc
  6. 00:33:886 (1) - 01:00:815 (1) - Unnecessary NCs
Go all out
  1. 00:31:997 (3) - Maybe 3/4 and a circle instead so its consistent with 00:33:886 (4,5) - ?

Hope it helps, good luck c:
gary00737
593 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
gary00737

Su1fu7 wrote:

Sorry for delay

nm from my q

  • Hard
  1. 00:01:288 (2,3) - You can make those looke a bit neater by moving (3) to x:373 y:159change :D
  2. 00:04:477 (6) - I dont think its necessary to make a circle here, theres barely anything on this blue tickit have sound ,
    so i keep that ><
  3. 00:07:193 (3,4) - I think it would be nice to space those out (something like this maybe) so this prominent guitar on 00:07:430 - emphasized a bit betterchange :D
  4. 00:23:020 (6) - Also I'd sugeest to change this one to a 1/2 slider, those 00:23:020 (6,1,2) - 2 1/1 gaps i a row in this somewhat intense section feesls really out of placekeep ><
  5. 00:24:438 (3,4,5) - I dont think its quite good idea to stack those 1/4s, it looks way to similar to stuff like 00:36:721 (1,2) - with 1/2 gaps and may cause reading problems for this difficulty level of players. Perhaps you can try to do something like this so 1/2 and 1/4 gaps is somewhat different visually. Same thing applies to 00:26:327 (2,3,4) - 00:27:272 (1,5,6,7) - etcchange :D thank you , i have miss note this part.
  6. 00:33:886 (1) - 01:00:815 (1) - Unnecessary NCschange :D
Go all out
  1. 00:31:997 (3) - Maybe 3/4 and a circle instead so its consistent with 00:33:886 (4,5) - ?it not change :P

Hope it helps, good luck c:


thank you!!! it was very helpful ! :) :) :) :) :)
m3gB3g
275 posts
Joined January 2015
m3gB3g
hI!~
ayy mod

Go All Out
00:01:524 (2) - stack with 00:01:760 (3) - ? Bcs with stack you will Transfer the sharpness of the vocals at 00:01:760 (3) -
00:10:028 (7,1) - Maybe without stack? I cant find any reason to stack them . "~Kyooo" start here 00:10:028 (7) - so i dont think you need break flow between 00:10:028 (7) - and 00:10:264 (1) -
00:45:225 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - i think here is bad flow. 00:45:225 (2,3,4) - too sharp jump for round stream.
00:48:768 (4,5,6) - i think here is wrong tripple. Try tripple between 00:49:004 (6,7) - these objects.
00:52:548 (4,5,6,7) - ^
01:03:886 (3,4,5,6) - ^
01:00:107 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - here i think you need more stream space. Bcs you have DS between stream ~x0.6 (what mean this is slider speed * 0.6. I want to say You slow down flow in most intense moment of song) Try DS= x0.8~1 (1x=speed of slider).
01:11:445 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - you can remove stack on these tripple and make spaced tripples with good flow which probably gonna make good impact at this moment of song.
01:18:296 (1) - <3


Hard
I think you can do this diff better. Just playtest this diff to 100k+ players and you will know what you need here.


Normal Pata-Mon
Well mapped! Perfect impact from Vocal~ Clear Diff!
~Good Luck with Rank Friend!
<3
gary00737
593 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
gary00737

m3gB3g wrote:

hI!~
ayy mod

Go All Out
00:01:524 (2) - stack with 00:01:760 (3) - ? Bcs with stack you will Transfer the sharpness of the vocals at 00:01:760 (3) - keep ,
00:10:028 (7,1) - Maybe without stack? I cant find any reason to stack them . "~Kyooo" start here 00:10:028 (7) - so i dont think you need break flow between 00:10:028 (7) - and 00:10:264 (1) - i changed :P
00:45:225 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - i think here is bad flow. 00:45:225 (2,3,4) - too sharp jump for round stream. Drums from whisper to loud , so i need this ><
00:48:768 (4,5,6) - i think here is wrong tripple. Try tripple between 00:49:004 (6,7) - these objects.
00:52:548 (4,5,6,7) - ^
01:03:886 (3,4,5,6) - ^ you right ><
01:00:107 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - here i think you need more stream space. Bcs you have DS between stream ~x0.6 (what mean this is slider speed * 0.6. I want to say You slow down flow in most intense moment of song) Try DS= x0.8~1 (1x=speed of slider).changed something
01:11:445 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - you can remove stack on these tripple and make spaced tripples with good flow which probably gonna make good impact at this moment of song.changed !!
01:18:296 (1) - <3 <3<#


Hard
I think you can do this diff better. Just playtest this diff to 100k+ players and you will know what you need here.
 um.. i change something.


~Good Luck with Rank Friend!
<3




thank you :P thank you always mod my map ><
Shad0w1and
1,588 posts
Joined April 2011
Shad0w1and
[go]
00:03:414 (4,6,7,1) - 一般开stack view包
00:15:225 (5,6,7) - 这三个不管是间距也好pattern也好最好和00:14:516 (2,3,4) - 区别开
00:18:768 (4,5,6) - stack
00:30:934 - 空的
00:34:123 - 走1/2压vocal
00:38:375 - 有鼓点和ou的音
00:52:784 (5,6,7,8) - 音效和pattern合不上，很confusing，后略

[hard]
00:16:170 - 压vocal，不然00:18:060 - 是什么意思
00:19:949 - 00:17:587 - 等等

加油吧
gary00737
593 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
gary00737

Shad0w1and wrote:

[go]
00:03:414 (4,6,7,1) - 一般开stack view包
00:15:225 (5,6,7) - 这三个不管是间距也好pattern也好最好和00:14:516 (2,3,4) - 区别开
00:18:768 (4,5,6) - stack
00:30:934 - 空的
00:34:123 - 走1/2压vocal
00:38:375 - 有鼓点和ou的音
00:52:784 (5,6,7,8) - 音效和pattern合不上，很confusing，后略

[hard]
00:16:170 - 压vocal，不然00:18:060 - 是什么意思
00:19:949 - 00:17:587 - 等等

加油吧

除了第一項之外 全改了. 順便也改了音效了 ><
AFKL
21 posts
Joined October 2016
AFKL
水摸谔谔

[Go all out]
00:20:422 (3,8) - 这个8放的太卡手了吧...个人感觉放在3的位置上好一点...
00:25:146 (1,2) - 个人感觉这样子放符合节奏https://puu.sh/wMsIc/0bf644e1b4.png

这跳放的好棒

[Hard]
00:25:146 (1,2) - 同上
00:55:382 (4,2) - 滑条尾可以和4对齐的吧，强迫症要屎勒

啊啊啊啊啊啊不会摸图啊啊啊啊！！！ :(
gary00737
593 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
gary00737

AFKL wrote:

水摸谔谔

[Go all out]
00:20:422 (3,8) - 这个8放的太卡手了吧...个人感觉放在3的位置上好一点... 不會呀我覺得蠻順的,. 如果放3那個位,就會跟之後的太近了
00:25:146 (1,2) - 个人感觉这样子放符合节奏https://puu.sh/wMsIc/0bf644e1b4.png 因為我只想突出那個音 所以無視了其他聲音 再多看幾個人的MOD

这跳放的好棒

[Hard]
00:25:146 (1,2) - 同上
00:55:382 (4,2) - 滑条尾可以和4对齐的吧，强迫症要屎勒 我不要改.. 迫死你們強迫症 :|

啊啊啊啊啊啊不会摸图啊啊啊啊！！！ :(

謝謝摸 :D:D:D
Enkrypton
217 posts
Joined November 2014
Enkrypton
从我的NM摸图 queue:

Pata-mon's Normal

00:47:115 (3,4) - 摆两个角度跟 00:13:099 (2,3) - 做样的
00:49:004 (6) - 做完第一个建议后，摆 00:47:823 (4,6) - 再次平行
00:52:312 (5) - 我想如果你把这个弯下去看起来更好 . 做的看起来像： 00:17:823 (4,6) - 和 00:27:272 (1,3) -
这一个做的简单但很好，没有太多问题 :)

Hard

00:17:823 (1,2,3) -我认为摆 00:18:296 (2,3) - 向下移动，跟 00:16:878 (4,5) - 看起来样
00:54:674 (3) - 向上移动一点，顺时针旋转一点 http://puu.sh/wNjvF/8732481405.jpg
这个也mapped得很好

Go all out

00:14:753 (3) -放 00:15:225 (5,6) - 的中间看起来更好看
00:17:823 (1,4) - 不要overlap这个小部分
你mapped的很好，找不到很多问题

我还在做你的beatmap banner, 不要太久会完成的。
gary00737
593 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
gary00737

Enkrypton wrote:

从我的NM摸图 queue:



Hard

00:17:823 (1,2,3) -我认为摆 00:18:296 (2,3) - 向下移动，跟 00:16:878 (4,5) - 看起来样這個改了
00:54:674 (3) - 向上移动一点，顺时针旋转一点 http://puu.sh/wNjvF/8732481405.jpg 這個沒改. 因為我包了那個圓之後也用了這個NOTE疊了很多 ((正確來說我/./懶 :P
这个也mapped得很好

Go all out

00:14:753 (3) -放 00:15:225 (5,6) - 的中间看起来更好看改了
00:17:823 (1,4) - 不要overlap这个小部分 也改了 ><
你mapped的很好，找不到很多问题

我还在做你的beatmap banner, 不要太久会完成的。


謝謝你的MOD 期待你的 banner :) :)
Lobelia
858 posts
Joined February 2014
Lobelia
[ Hard ]
00:20:894 (5,6,7,8,1) - 这一块三连加两个单点的重叠，最好不要弄，不同节奏的重叠堆在一起，打起来混淆感挺强的
00:17:587 - 00:23:256 - 00:27:036 - 这几个音，空着我觉得不是很好。如果你就是觉得这几个音适合空的话，那么00:21:367 - 00:28:926 (8) - 这几个为什么不空着呢0 0？再其次如果说是想强调鼓声的话，但我看到你这段节奏处理很多地方人声也是没有省略掉的，最明显的几处00:29:162 (1) - 00:25:146 (1) -
所以综上所述。。。我觉得这几个音空着效果并不是那么好
01:07:902 (3,4,5) - 可能这两组ctrl+g一下FLOW更好点？

[ Go all out ]
00:15:225 (5) - 可以NC，跟HARD一样
00:17:587 (7,1) - 这块FLOW似乎比较差了点，7,1之间间距也太大了些
也许可以这样？
00:42:390 (1,5,1,1) - 这一块就显得比较拥挤了些，可以重新规划一下这一块排列
00:44:753 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 然后这一块本身FLOW就相对比较差一些，因为后面是跟着连打，所以最好是跟着滑条的切线轨迹来走，这块地方整个换了个FLOW而且3的头和滑条叠住了。。就显得读图不是那么容易
00:57:863 (2,1,2,1) - 这块地方可以直接走人声忽略鼓点，我以前遇到过这种情况0 0很多BN都是这样跟我建议的

就这些啦0 0加油！挺不错的
gary00737
593 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
gary00737

[ Abhor ] wrote:

[ Hard ]
00:20:894 (5,6,7,8,1) - 这一块三连加两个单点的重叠，最好不要弄，不同节奏的重叠堆在一起，打起来混淆感挺强的
00:17:587 - 00:23:256 - 00:27:036 - 这几个音，空着我觉得不是很好。如果你就是觉得这几个音适合空的话，那么00:21:367 - 00:28:926 (8) - 这几个为什么不空着呢0 0？再其次如果说是想强调鼓声的话，但我看到你这段节奏处理很多地方人声也是没有省略掉的，最明显的几处00:29:162 (1) - 00:25:146 (1) -
所以综上所述。。。我觉得这几个音空着效果并不是那么好
01:07:902 (3,4,5) - 可能这两组ctrl+g一下FLOW更好点？
整個HARD改了 :D

[ Go all out ]
00:15:225 (5) - 可以NC，跟HARD一样完成
00:17:587 (7,1) - 这块FLOW似乎比较差了点，7,1之间间距也太大了些完成不過用了個更簡單的方法
也许可以这样？
00:42:390 (1,5,1,1) - 这一块就显得比较拥挤了些，可以重新规划一下这一块排列改了後面的
00:44:753 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 然后这一块本身FLOW就相对比较差一些，因为后面是跟着连打，所以最好是跟着滑条的切线轨迹来走，这块地方整个换了个FLOW而且3的头和滑条叠住了。。就显得读图不是那么容易上面的改了 之後FLOW方面 感覺上不錯所以連打沒改
00:57:863 (2,1,2,1) - 这块地方可以直接走人声忽略鼓点，我以前遇到过这种情况0 0很多BN都是这样跟我建议的這個沒改
改了跟人聲總感覺怪怪的

就这些啦0 0加油！挺不错的


耶~~~謝摸 :)
- AzRaeL -
363 posts
Joined April 2017
- AzRaeL -
NM from here

Red: 重要,可能不能Ranked.
Blue: 重要,建議修改.
Black: 建議,可改可不改.

Pata-Mon's Normal
01:00:107 - 高潮迭起的部分,這裡是不是缺個音,空空的但有人聲,可以補個音或把6的開頭拉長的這裡.
01:07:902 (6) - 怎麼不是跟前面一樣用白線對白線的滑條,雖然也是有對到拍.
01:19:713 - 我覺得補個音會更好.

Hard
00:22:548 (3,7) - 或許是慢AR的關係,3經過一個3連後重疊的7會很難讀.
00:39:319 (2) - x:368 y:219 會更好看.
01:12:627 (1,2,3) - 我覺得不要疊在一起比較好看.

Go all out
00:35:540 (1) - Why NC?
00:44:044 (6,7,1) - 順時針轉一點,不要疊到滑條1.
00:57:508 (1,1) - 不是那麼好看.

你的圖很棒呢!沒什麼太大的錯誤需要修改 :) .
對了,你能幫我做個GD嗎?聽leo16834說你很注重美感,想說能不能幫我做個GD呢? :oops: .
gary00737
593 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
gary00737
Hard
00:22:548 (3,7) - 或許是慢AR的關係,3經過一個3連後重疊的7會很難讀.這個部份先保留 會改 但先找到更好的方法..
00:39:319 (2) - x:368 y:219 會更好看. 這個我是在回應前一個部份00:36:721 (1,2) - 所以KEEP
01:12:627 (1,2,3) - 我覺得不要疊在一起比較好看. 這個我覺得還好 先留著

Go all out
00:35:540 (1) - Why NC? 這個是想提醒開始加速 雖然好像沒什麼卵用 如果BN要我改我再改吧
00:44:044 (6,7,1) - 順時針轉一點,不要疊到滑條1.[color=#FF00FF]這個好像沒什麼問題呀 而且在DT時我覺得蠻好打 :roll: [/color]
00:57:508 (1,1) - 不是那麼好看.但我反而很喜歡這個 XD 真的到了不好看的地步嗎 (?

你的圖很棒呢!沒什麼太大的錯誤需要修改 :) .
對了,你能幫我做個GD嗎?聽leo16834說你很注重美感,想說能不能幫我做個GD呢? :oops: .

GD方面讓我考慮一下 gugu

謝謝摸 :)
Nozhomi
Global Moderator
4,568 posts
Joined May 2013
Nozhomi
Hi~

  1. normal-sliderslide seems unused, check and remove if it is.
[Hard :]
  1. OD 5 thx (to have 3 -> 5 -> 7 on the diffspread).
  2. 00:04:477 (6) - / 00:12:036 (5) - should be removed, there's no sound on them to map, you don't even mapped 00:12:036 (5) - on last diff so yeah.
  3. 00:24:438 (4,5,6) - / 00:26:327 (2,3,4) - / 00:28:217 (5,6,7) - / etc...Stacking triplet under a slider end is super hard to read, and should be avoided on Hard and lower diffs.
  4. 01:00:815 (4,1) - Since the 2nd reverse is shorter, spacing should be a bit bigger to make it clear than the player have a 1/2 delay before playing next object.
  5. 01:03:886 (2,3,4,5) - Why this kind of pattern is totally different from what you did on 1st kiai with 00:48:768 (2,3,4,5) - ? That super inconsistent and have no purpose to be done differently. If you keep 1st kiai pattern for all, reduce a bit spacing you used between 00:49:241 (4,5) - and other, if you keep 2nd kiai pattern just do it with consistency.
  6. 01:12:627 (1,2,3) - This pattern is not really readable for a Hard diff, the 2nd slider hide too much the circle.
  7. 01:24:910 (5,6,1) - This spacing is a bit too much and create a bad diffspike at the end, nerf it a bit.
  8. Imo that diff have a bit too much of triplet, and seems a bit overmapped imo, check that pls.
[Go all out :]
  1. 00:04:477 (6) -Remove it like on Hard.
  2. Kinda same problem than Hard, some triplet feels really overmapped without fit any elements of the song (like 00:58:335 (2) - / 01:06:367 (6) - but there's a lot more like that ofc).

Would be nice to have some more imputs about these triplets, and when it's done call me back, the map itself is clean excepting that point.
Mukyu~
Pata-Mon
1,489 posts
Joined March 2015
Pata-Mon

Ringer wrote:


Pata-mon's Normal

00:16:642 (2) - Reverse to get the strong note at 00:17:115? the rhythm now is easy to read and easy to play, and in fact 00:16:878 - is not really so strong
00:26:091 (5) - ^
00:55:619 (4) - NC ? no reason to nc
01:00:343 (6) - end it at 01:01:052 instead ? 01:00:816 - this sound is more important
@Enkrypton 这几个是美观问题，我看了一下我都比较喜欢目前的形状，所以keep啦
@- AzRaeL - 第二个没必要非得一样，其他改了

thanks for mod

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240,172,60343,2,0,L|385:165,1,130,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
328,329,61288,6,0,L|183:336,1,130,6|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
113,340,61997,1,0,1:0:0:0:
113,340,62233,2,0,P|94:285|96:182,1,130,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
109,131,62941,2,0,L|254:124,1,130,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
301,67,63650,2,0,L|373:70,1,65,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
450,79,64123,2,0,P|468:142|469:225,1,130,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
407,362,65067,6,0,L|262:355,1,130,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
222,290,65776,1,0,1:0:0:0:
222,290,66012,2,0,L|77:297,1,130,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
27,241,66721,2,0,P|13:182|20:63,1,130,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
69,51,67430,2,0,L|141:47,1,65,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
195,105,67902,2,0,L|267:108,2,65,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
152,268,68847,6,0,L|297:275,1,130,6|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
360,241,69556,2,0,P|381:214|405:76,1,130,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
393,41,70264,1,0,1:0:0:0:
393,41,70501,2,0,L|248:34,1,130,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
214,103,71209,1,0,1:0:0:0:
214,103,71445,2,0,L|69:110,1,130,4|2,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
0,115,72154,1,0,1:0:0:0:
59,273,72627,6,0,L|204:266,1,130,6|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
246,204,73335,1,0,1:0:0:0:
246,204,73571,2,0,L|391:211,1,130,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
421,47,74516,2,0,L|276:40,1,130,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
224,93,75225,1,0,1:0:0:0:
224,93,75461,2,0,L|151:89,2,65,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
334,221,76406,6,0,P|346:293|332:389,2,130,6|0|2,0:0|1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
279,157,77587,1,0,1:0:0:0:
224,93,77823,2,0,L|151:89,1,65,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
74,85,78296,1,6,0:0:0:0:
74,85,79713,2,0,P|66:124|68:189,1,65,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
73,233,80186,6,0,L|249:243,1,130,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
266,300,80894,1,0,1:0:0:0:
266,300,81130,2,0,L|442:290,1,130,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
385,123,82075,2,0,L|209:133,1,130,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
194,188,82784,1,0,1:0:0:0:
194,188,83020,2,0,L|18:178,1,130,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
75,11,83965,6,0,L|251:21,1,130,6|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
358,88,84910,2,0,L|446:83,2,65,2|0|0,0:0|1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,85896,12,0,89425,0:0:0:0:
gary00737
593 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
gary00737

Nozhomi wrote:

Hi~


[Hard :]
  1. OD 5 thx (to have 3 -> 5 -> 7 on the diffspread).
  2. 00:04:477 (6) - / 00:12:036 (5) - should be removed, there's no sound on them to map, you don't even mapped 00:12:036 (5) - on last diff so yeah.
  3. 00:24:438 (4,5,6) - / 00:26:327 (2,3,4) - / 00:28:217 (5,6,7) - / etc...Stacking triplet under a slider end is super hard to read, and should be avoided on Hard and lower diffs.
  4. 01:00:815 (4,1) - Since the 2nd reverse is shorter, spacing should be a bit bigger to make it clear than the player have a 1/2 delay before playing next object.
  5. 01:03:886 (2,3,4,5) - Why this kind of pattern is totally different from what you did on 1st kiai with 00:48:768 (2,3,4,5) - ? That super inconsistent and have no purpose to be done differently. If you keep 1st kiai pattern for all, reduce a bit spacing you used between 00:49:241 (4,5) - and other, if you keep 2nd kiai pattern just do it with consistency.
  6. 01:12:627 (1,2,3) - This pattern is not really readable for a Hard diff, the 2nd slider hide too much the circle.
  7. 01:24:910 (5,6,1) - This spacing is a bit too much and create a bad diffspike at the end, nerf it a bit.
  8. Imo that diff have a bit too much of triplet, and seems a bit overmapped imo, check that pls.


[Go all out :]
  1. 00:04:477 (6) -Remove it like on Hard.
  2. Kinda same problem than Hard, some triplet feels really overmapped without fit any elements of the song (like 00:58:335 (2) - / 01:06:367 (6) - but there's a lot more like that ofc).

Would be nice to have some more imputs about these triplets, and when it's done call me back, the map itself is clean excepting that point.
Mukyu~

all done , i remap some part ,
thank you for modding ! i will change my overmap triplets ><
CookieBite
1,483 posts
Joined August 2014
CookieBite
requested by gary (have 100 kds now <3)
irc
2017-07-24 11:46 gary00737: 大佬..你對OVERMAP定義係咩..?
2017-07-24 11:47 CookieBite: 最常的講法: 將note放系啲首歌無奏出的地方
2017-07-24 11:48 CookieBite: 可參閱https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comments/2akp8r/when_it_is_said_that_a_song_is_overmapped_what_do/
2017-07-24 11:48 gary00737: 如果想用3連打黎表達一個音 你覺得咁樣 會唔會都係OVERMAP?
2017-07-24 11:49 CookieBite: 係overmap左
2017-07-24 11:50 gary00737: T_T"
2017-07-24 11:50 gary00737: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1328149 Sukima Switch - Zenryoku Shounen [Go all out]]
2017-07-24 11:50 gary00737: 救命 T口T
2017-07-24 11:54 CookieBite: 惟有刪曬d triple xd
2017-07-24 11:54 gary00737: -口-
2017-07-24 11:54 gary00737: 真心呢 ... 真係咁OVERMAP咩><?
2017-07-24 11:55 CookieBite: 係==
2017-07-24 11:55 gary00737: 係邊到.. 副歌定前段?
2017-07-24 11:56 gary00737: 我HARD都改晒D 3連
2017-07-24 11:59 CookieBite: 差5多整首都冇triple
2017-07-24 11:59 CookieBite: xd
2017-07-24 11:59 gary00737: 咁就出事.. 我再研究下... 刪下佢先
leo16834
471 posts
Joined August 2011
leo16834
一些ovemap的討論
2017-07-23 17:05 leo16834: 我看看
2017-07-23 17:09 leo16834: 恩 你覺得哪裡有問題呢 你先說說看吧 我再說我的想法
2017-07-23 17:10 gary00737: 我是想把3連打都改掉.. 可是感覺又沒什麼東西
2017-07-23 17:12 leo16834: 三連陰 這是這樣的 我是知道你想要加強鼓與點拍的方像啦
2017-07-23 17:12 leo16834: 如果說是因為人聲的三連 那我可以接受
2017-07-23 17:12 leo16834: 鼓聲就稍微看一下了
2017-07-23 17:12 leo16834: 00:47:587 (8,9,1) - 這個我OK
2017-07-23 17:13 leo16834: 00:49:004 (5,6,7) - 這個我知道你的用意是聲音與鼓點間的加強
2017-07-23 17:14 gary00737: 這個我也不清潔
2017-07-23 17:14 leo16834: 00:50:658 (3,4,5) - 這個是聲音kata 就我來看應該是為了想要加強用的
2017-07-23 17:14 gary00737: 不清楚*
2017-07-23 17:14 gary00737: 其實可以不用3連打
2017-07-23 17:14 leo16834: 00:56:800 (5,6,7) - 這個就有點比較難了
2017-07-23 17:14 gary00737: 但我想不起來那時為什麼要放3連
2017-07-23 17:14 leo16834: 大概就是要塞滿吧
2017-07-23 17:15 leo16834: 還有一個問題是這樣的 我認為的啦 flow上用的有點太重了
2017-07-23 17:15 gary00737: 我每個再研究一下吧
2017-07-23 17:16 leo16834: 01:04:123 (4,5,6) - 像這個三連 有點距離 如果是4.6*以上我覺得ok
2017-07-23 17:17 leo16834: 我記得ice跟我說過過度使用flow 會顯的排法有點亂 大概類似這種感覺吧


再補一下我覺得的overmap

個人覺得是因為是STD的玩法 不應該會是這樣的放法

但是如果這個放法在太鼓 我覺得就會OK

因為太鼓有一種打法就是k d ddd k 這種音拍

就很符合你現在風格

個人覺得應該就只能多多修正了 看要怎麼取得一個平衡

加油 有問題再來找我 :)
walaowey
952 posts
Joined March 2012
walaowey
yo irc mod

irc mod
2017-07-24 20:08 gary00737: hello ><
2017-07-24 20:08 gary00737: i want a mod (( irc mod @@
2017-07-24 20:09 walaowey: ok sure
2017-07-24 20:09 walaowey: ir can
2017-07-24 20:09 walaowey: xD
2017-07-24 20:09 walaowey: irc*
2017-07-24 20:09 gary00737: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1328149 Sukima Switch - Zenryoku Shounen]
2017-07-24 20:09 gary00737: thank you  ><
2017-07-24 20:09 walaowey: wait for a bit
2017-07-24 20:09 walaowey: got something to do
2017-07-24 20:17 walaowey: ok
2017-07-24 20:17 walaowey: i'm back xD
2017-07-24 20:17 gary00737: o/
2017-07-24 20:19 walaowey: mm let me test abit XD
2017-07-24 20:20 walaowey: 00:36:249 (2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 
2017-07-24 20:20 walaowey: this pattern is a little hard to read
2017-07-24 20:21 gary00737: 00:36:721 (1,1,1,1) -
2017-07-24 20:21 walaowey: 00:36:721 (1) - u can try to unstack this
2017-07-24 20:21 gary00737: overlap @@?
2017-07-24 20:21 walaowey: yes, full overlap is harder to read
2017-07-24 20:23 walaowey: you no use claps for hitsound?
2017-07-24 20:23 gary00737: no..@@
2017-07-24 20:23 walaowey: haha
2017-07-24 20:24 walaowey: 00:58:926 (2,1) - 
2017-07-24 20:25 walaowey: both of this notes can have bigger spacing
2017-07-24 20:25 walaowey: strong beat xD
2017-07-24 20:25 gary00737: oh here ,
2017-07-24 20:25 gary00737: ok
2017-07-24 20:27 walaowey: 00:25:146 (1) - 
2017-07-24 20:27 walaowey: u miss alot of beats here
2017-07-24 20:27 gary00737: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8670705  -  _-'
2017-07-24 20:28 walaowey: 00:25:855 - theres a sound here xD
2017-07-24 20:29 walaowey: xD
2017-07-24 20:29 gary00737: let me think about that ><
2017-07-24 20:29 walaowey: okk
2017-07-24 20:30 gary00737: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/lvB5eys.png if i change that
2017-07-24 20:30 gary00737: but00:25:619 -
2017-07-24 20:31 gary00737: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/5Cek2Ob.png >_>"
2017-07-24 20:31 walaowey: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8670724
2017-07-24 20:32 walaowey: i highlighted that rhythm
2017-07-24 20:32 walaowey: try that out?
2017-07-24 20:32 walaowey: lol ya, the 2nd one
2017-07-24 20:32 walaowey: xD
2017-07-24 20:32 gary00737: @_@
2017-07-24 20:32 gary00737: XD
2017-07-24 20:34 walaowey: ermm
2017-07-24 20:34 walaowey: i think its ok
2017-07-24 20:34 walaowey: let me see other diff xD
2017-07-24 20:34 gary00737: ok thank you><
2017-07-24 20:36 walaowey: 01:25:896 (1) - 
2017-07-24 20:36 walaowey: u can add a note here
2017-07-24 20:37 walaowey: then start the spinner at blue tick
2017-07-24 20:37 walaowey: xD
2017-07-24 20:37 gary00737: i don't know i can put the note on anywhere T_T"
2017-07-24 20:38 walaowey: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8670766
2017-07-24 20:38 walaowey: like that xD
2017-07-24 20:38 gary00737: ok :D
2017-07-24 20:39 walaowey: 01:13:571 (3) - u miss a beat on the slider tail
2017-07-24 20:39 walaowey: the sound is strong, make it clickable
2017-07-24 20:40 walaowey: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8670773 check the rhythm^
2017-07-24 20:40 gary00737: oh!
2017-07-24 20:40 gary00737: !! yes
2017-07-24 20:40 gary00737: @@'
2017-07-24 20:41 walaowey: xD
2017-07-24 20:42 walaowey: 00:29:871 (2) - 
2017-07-24 20:42 walaowey: this too, u miss the strong beat on 00:30:107
2017-07-24 20:42 walaowey: 00:30:107 -
2017-07-24 20:43 walaowey: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8670789 try this rhythm^
2017-07-24 20:44 gary00737: let me think the flow here ><
2017-07-24 20:44 walaowey: haha ok
2017-07-24 20:44 walaowey: oh, normal is gd
2017-07-24 20:44 walaowey: ok then xd
2017-07-24 20:45 walaowey: others seems fine
2017-07-24 20:46 gary00737: @@ thank you for mod ><
2017-07-24 20:46 walaowey: sure
2017-07-24 20:46 walaowey: want me post the chat?
2017-07-24 20:46 gary00737: yes ~_~
2017-07-24 20:46 gary00737: !_!
2017-07-24 20:46 walaowey: ok
2017-07-24 20:46 gary00737: @_@
2017-07-24 20:46 walaowey: xD
2017-07-24 20:46 walaowey: good luck with the map xD
2017-07-24 20:46 gary00737: thank you :P
ice08311
240 posts
Joined January 2012
ice08311
水摸~
不管是美觀還是節奏亦或難度上都沒什麼問題
只剩DS了
但講太多怕影響到你譜面風格
就先這樣吧XD

IRC
16:59 ice08311: 有點難摸xd
16:59 gary00737: @@
16:59 gary00737: 說感覺就可以 殘酷一點也要 !!!
17:00 gary00737: BN要求我找人對OVERMAP給點意見
17:00 gary00737: 但我把OVERMAP的都改了
17:00 gary00737: 所以看看有沒有其實感到奇怪的地方
17:00 gary00737: 其他*
17:02 ice08311: 對我來說沒有overmap的地方
17:07 ice08311: 畢竟對我來說這難度開DT也沒有很難 真要說的話就是連打的間距跟DS吧
17:08 gary00737: 2個連打都要嗎? 因為我記得後面那個之前是很慢的連打
17:08 gary00737: 之後被要求拉長- -
17:10 ice08311: 應該只有第一個連打要改 後面我覺得OK
17:10 ice08311: 我指得是00:45:461 (2) -
17:10 ice08311: 不過00:30:461 (4) -
17:10 ice08311: 這個你可以考慮改掉
17:11 gary00737: .
17:11 gary00737: 那個藍線原來沒音
17:11 gary00737: -. -
17:11 ice08311: -.-
17:12 ice08311: 其他鼓點說實在也很小聲
17:12 gary00737: 是指音效嗎?
17:13 ice08311: 00:30:461 - 我指這一串
17:13 ice08311: 還有一些DS的建議
17:13 gary00737: 如果我把這個連打改到不是連打 - -
17:14 ice08311: 00:07:902 (4) - 這個到next的距離應該要比prev大才對
17:14 ice08311: 嗯?
17:15 gary00737: 改了
17:15 ice08311: 00:14:753 (3) - 這個建議也縮一點DS 移到滑條起點另一邊
17:16 ice08311: 00:20:422 (3) - 這個也是 離4近一點
17:17 ice08311: DS都只是建議 看你要不要改就是
17:17 gary00737: @@
17:17 gary00737: 我還在想第1個DS要怎改 XD
17:18 ice08311: 00:58:926 (2) - 這個稍微縮成1.2 後面一樣2.0
17:19 ice08311: 01:18:060 (6) - 這個我有想過疊到01:18:296 (1) - 上 不過算了XD
17:20 gary00737: ^我也有想過 XD
17:20 ice08311: 大概就這樣吧 難度上我覺得不會太超過
17:21 ice08311: 說實話我會希望更難一點 因為這是最後一個難度XD
17:21 gary00737: 我只有00:20:422 (3) - 沒改.. 其他都改了
17:21 ice08311: 不過已經3.64 饒了它吧
17:21 gary00737: 我也想要更難
17:21 gary00737: >< 本來3.77
17:22 ice08311: 噗
17:22 gary00737: DT 5.1 DTHDHE 280PP
17:22 gary00737: \口/~~
17:22 gary00737: DTHDHR
17:22 gary00737: - - 何來HE
17:22 ice08311: XD
17:22 gary00737: 00:30:107 (3,4,5,6,7) - 這串問題點是不是音效?
17:22 gary00737: 還是...不該放串?
17:23 gary00737: 00:30:697 (6) - 還是說刪掉這個?
17:23 ice08311: 可以
17:24 ice08311: 那一整的鼓點有點太小聲
17:24 ice08311: 一串
17:25 gary00737: >< 鼓點是指 音樂本身 還是我加的音效 (?
17:25 ice08311: 音樂本身
17:26 ice08311: 刪掉6感覺確實比較好
17:26 gary00737: 好 現在要想 00:45:461 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - 這串 重整 >_<
17:28 ice08311: 最簡單的方法就維持同一個形狀 只是DS減少 同時讓00:46:170 (1,2) - DS一起縮小
17:29 ice08311: 因為00:46:642 (3,4) - 聽起來是比12強的
17:37 gary00737: 好. 我完成了 ((能不能把對話放上論壇
17:38 ice08311: 感覺這次摸不出什麼說 這樣好嗎XD
17:39 gary00737: 你摸的我都改了呀 XD
17:40 gary00737: 但改了之後.. 囧.. 連打難打了 但星降了
17:40 ice08311: 竟然還變難打XD
17:42 ice08311: 一定是BPM的關係
17:43 gary00737: XD
17:44 ice08311: HD最後很騙XD
17:44 gary00737: @@
17:44 gary00737: 我感覺我做的圖愈來愈糞...
17:44 gary00737: 不..本來就糞 . _.
17:44 ice08311: 不過是好的那種騙
17:45 gary00737: @@
17:45 gary00737: 不懂..
17:45 gary00737: 有分好壞 XD?
17:45 ice08311: 有
17:45 ice08311: 有些會讓人覺得莫名其妙
17:45 ice08311: 有些是讓人覺得唉呀怎麼沒打到
17:46 gary00737: 哈哈 我突然懂了
17:46 ice08311: 大概就是那種感覺XD
Nozhomi
Global Moderator
4,568 posts
Joined May 2013
Nozhomi
From KwaN check for metadata :

- Unicode Title: 全力少年produced by 奥田民生（anime ver.）
- Romanised Title: Zenryoku Shounen produced by Okuda Tamio (anime ver.)
- Unicode Artist: スキマスイッチ
- Romanised Artist: Sukimaswitch
- Source: ALL OUT!!
or: ALL OUT!!オールアウト

- References:
+ http://office-augusta.com/sukimaswitch/discography/
+ http://allout-anime.com/music.html
+ http://office-augusta.com/
+ http://okudatamio.jp/
+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JrG5mXMiBg
+ https://twitter.com/ALL_OUT_
+ http://www.tms-e.co.jp/search/results.p ... ee=ALL+OUT
+ http://www.madhouse.co.jp/

Overmapping is removed, unused hitsound same.
Finally seems good.

Have your bub~
gary00737
593 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
gary00737

Nozhomi wrote:

From KwaN check for metadata :

- Unicode Title: 全力少年produced by 奥田民生（anime ver.）
- Romanised Title: Zenryoku Shounen produced by Okuda Tamio (anime ver.)
- Unicode Artist: スキマスイッチ
- Romanised Artist: Sukimaswitch
- Source: ALL OUT!!
or: ALL OUT!!オールアウト

- References:
+ http://office-augusta.com/sukimaswitch/discography/
+ http://allout-anime.com/music.html
+ http://office-augusta.com/
+ http://okudatamio.jp/
+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JrG5mXMiBg
+ https://twitter.com/ALL_OUT_
+ http://www.tms-e.co.jp/search/results.p ... ee=ALL+OUT
+ http://www.madhouse.co.jp/

Overmapping is removed, unused hitsound same.
Finally seems good.

Have your bub~


thank you :) :) :) :) :)
:) :) :) :) :) :)
Okoratu
Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator
4,913 posts
Joined May 2012
Okoratu
Hi, we discussed this thing a bit within my subdivision and since everyone else was either kind-of offended or busy with other things here goes:

[general]
  1. this anime doesnt even feature girls, any reason for the unrelated background choice?
  2. the custom diffname is kind-of-lame
[hard]
Generally some rhythms could make more sense, here's mostly all of those that don't make much sense whatsoever
  1. 00:03:178 (2,3,4) - you have been following vocals for the most part in this section, so a much more reasonable rhythm would be http://i.imgur.com/KJmrpQr.png
  2. 00:20:658 (4,5,6,7) - starting in this section you were mostly following the background instrumentals, and with how you mapped that part previously, there doesnt seem to be anything special going on for these to be 4 circles, in fact, 2 sliders would be sufficient for what the song is at this poitn
  3. 00:25:146 (1,2,3,4) - we do understand that your intent is to follow vocals here because they are doing something special but the whole verse seems to be oddly captured, a rhythm such as http://i.imgur.com/0SDY6cw.png or in less dense: http://i.imgur.com/l9USOJJ.png would do a much better job at highlighting that the vocal line here is different
  4. 00:36:721 (1,2) - 00:38:611 (1,2) - because it isnt done systematically the stacking underneath a sliderend seems off in this part, i'd advise unstacking, also would make the kiai concept clearly different
  5. 01:00:343 (3,4) - combining different length repeat sliders isnt exactly recommended because there is no way to read that the second one is horter, would recommend taking off a reverse from 3
  6. 01:10:737 (1,2,3,4) - as the climax to end the kiai this seems like an odd choice of rhythm. something more dense that is rhythmically climaxing like http://i.imgur.com/MowG6MV.png may fit your intentions better? (compare to rhythm in 01:10:737 - in ALL OUT!! diff)
[lame diffname]
  1. 00:36:721 (1,2,1,2) - i have no idea why thse are climaxing, the vocal climax is clearly in the latter half of the pattern (mainly in 00:37:430 (2,1,2,1,2) - ) so i think nerfing the first half of it would make stuff clearer
  2. 01:23:965 (1,2,3,4) - why does this have less circles than hard?
[Normal]
  1. 00:17:351 (3) - 00:21:130 (3) - 00:26:800 (6) - 00:30:107 (6,7) - and a few others coud be replaced with 1/1 circles to split patterns up better and give people more room to breathe, it would also make the diff more interesting by adding more balance and make the difficulty as a whole "less of all the same stuff"
Wafu
1,703 posts
Joined June 2011
Wafu
We discussed this map in our subdivision and I discovered a timing problem and some hitsound issues which seemed really obvious to me.

Red = Not allowed/potentionaly causing DQ
Regular = Mostly important, partially subjective, address this properly

[ALL OUT!!]
  1. 00:15:934 - The finish is apparently missing.
  2. 00:30:579 (5,1) - The finish should be swapped. This completely reverses the emphasis.
  3. 00:41:918 (6) - Missing finish.
  4. 00:44:280 (1,1) - Should probably not have a finish, again, the emphasis on 00:45:225 (1) - gets totally ruined.
  5. 01:01:288 - The drum additions sound really bassy here. I'd go at least with the regular finish. Would make a lot more sense, you haven't used this in your map much, this sounds to come out of nowhere here, and this part repeated many times in the song.
  6. 01:04:595 (6) - Missing finish.
  7. 01:08:847 (1) - Missing finish.
  8. 01:09:556 - Missing finish.
  9. 01:14:044 - Missing finish.
  10. 01:16:406 - Missing finish.
  11. 01:17:587 (4) - This is literally the same thing as 01:17:823 (5) - . It should also have Normal sampleset.
  12. 01:25:146 (4) - Same as above, this is exactly same as 01:25:382 - .
  13. 01:10:264 (4) - This slider seems to be completely off. If you listen to it for example at 25%, you can notice it is very early. I suppose it is 1/8 and should be at 01:10:323 - .
[Pata-Mon's Normal]
  1. 00:23:020 - The normal sampleset is missing, you have it even in other difficulties.
  2. 00:57:981 - Same as above.
  3. 01:10:501 - Shouldn't have a finish. This position sounds really random.
  4. 01:11:445 - Same as above.
  5. 01:14:044 - Here, a finish is missing.
Also, a general issue—the kiai sounds really empty. There should be much more finishes that actually appear in the song. I would probably recommend a little bit more complicated hitsounding, but fixing the finishes should make this pretty good too.

Most of the issues in the ALL OUT!! difficulty apply to other difficulties too. Please, be sure to check it. If you need any help or didn't understand anything, feel free to PM me.
Pata-Mon
1,489 posts
Joined March 2015
Pata-Mon
@Okorin As the lowest diff in this set, I don't want to use some too hard parttern, for example, 3 continuously clickable objects, so I want to keep xD

@Wafu all fixed except 01:10:501 - 01:11:445 - : I follow vocal here but the heavy sound of drum is in the middle of the sliders (01:10:737 -01:11:682 - ), so I add some finish to emphasis what I followed, I believe it would make player more comfortable

Thanks!

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Okoratu
Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator
4,913 posts
Joined May 2012
Okoratu
your argument makes no sense by the way, none of my suggestions would have added more objects in total?

especially for beginners, sliders are harder to play than circles because you have to click and follow them to some degree of precision whereas you only have to move to and click on a circle.

none of the suggestions aim to increase density
Pata-Mon
1,489 posts
Joined March 2015
Pata-Mon
ahh sorry, I am not good at English, it seemed I misunderstood your mod...
ok, changed some of them, I keep 00:30:107 (6,7) - because I think music is heavy here and slider is fit for finish.
Thanks again

@gary 那么更新这个版本就好 不用管上面的了
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Title:Zenryoku Shounen produced by Okuda Tamio (anime ver.)
TitleUnicode:全力少年produced by 奥田民生（anime ver.）
Artist:Sukimaswitch
ArtistUnicode:スキマスイッチ
Creator:gary00737
Version:Pata-Mon's Normal
Source:ALL OUT!!オールアウト
Tags:produced 燃えろ！熱血リズム魂　押忍！闘え！応援団2 奥田民生 Pata-Mon 無限開關 Enkrypton
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gary00737
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gary00737

Okorin wrote:

Hi, we discussed this thing a bit within my subdivision and since everyone else was either kind-of offended or busy with other things here goes:

[general]
  1. this anime doesnt even feature girls, any reason for the unrelated background choice?
  2. the custom diffname is kind-of-lame
[hard]
Generally some rhythms could make more sense, here's mostly all of those that don't make much sense whatsoever
  1. 00:03:178 (2,3,4) - you have been following vocals for the most part in this section, so a much more reasonable rhythm would be http://i.imgur.com/KJmrpQr.png
  2. 00:20:658 (4,5,6,7) - starting in this section you were mostly following the background instrumentals, and with how you mapped that part previously, there doesnt seem to be anything special going on for these to be 4 circles, in fact, 2 sliders would be sufficient for what the song is at this poitn
  3. 00:25:146 (1,2,3,4) - we do understand that your intent is to follow vocals here because they are doing something special but the whole verse seems to be oddly captured, a rhythm such as http://i.imgur.com/0SDY6cw.png or in less dense: http://i.imgur.com/l9USOJJ.png would do a much better job at highlighting that the vocal line here is different
  4. 00:36:721 (1,2) - 00:38:611 (1,2) - because it isnt done systematically the stacking underneath a sliderend seems off in this part, i'd advise unstacking, also would make the kiai concept clearly different
  5. 01:00:343 (3,4) - combining different length repeat sliders isnt exactly recommended because there is no way to read that the second one is horter, would recommend taking off a reverse from 3
  6. 01:10:737 (1,2,3,4) - as the climax to end the kiai this seems like an odd choice of rhythm. something more dense that is rhythmically climaxing like http://i.imgur.com/MowG6MV.png may fit your intentions better? (compare to rhythm in 01:10:737 - in ALL OUT!! diff)
[lame diffname]
  1. 00:36:721 (1,2,1,2) - i have no idea why thse are climaxing, the vocal climax is clearly in the latter half of the pattern (mainly in 00:37:430 (2,1,2,1,2) - ) so i think nerfing the first half of it would make stuff clearer
  2. 01:23:965 (1,2,3,4) - why does this have less circles than hard?
[Normal]
  1. 00:17:351 (3) - 00:21:130 (3) - 00:26:800 (6) - 00:30:107 (6,7) - and a few others coud be replaced with 1/1 circles to split patterns up better and give people more room to breathe, it would also make the diff more interesting by adding more balance and make the difficulty as a whole "less of all the same stuff"

Wafu wrote:

We discussed this map in our subdivision and I discovered a timing problem and some hitsound issues which seemed really obvious to me.

Red = Not allowed/potentionaly causing DQ
Regular = Mostly important, partially subjective, address this properly

[ALL OUT!!]
  1. 00:15:934 - The finish is apparently missing.
  2. 00:30:579 (5,1) - The finish should be swapped. This completely reverses the emphasis.
  3. 00:41:918 (6) - Missing finish.
  4. 00:44:280 (1,1) - Should probably not have a finish, again, the emphasis on 00:45:225 (1) - gets totally ruined.
  5. 01:01:288 - The drum additions sound really bassy here. I'd go at least with the regular finish. Would make a lot more sense, you haven't used this in your map much, this sounds to come out of nowhere here, and this part repeated many times in the song.
  6. 01:04:595 (6) - Missing finish.
  7. 01:08:847 (1) - Missing finish.
  8. 01:09:556 - Missing finish.
  9. 01:14:044 - Missing finish.
  10. 01:16:406 - Missing finish.
  11. 01:17:587 (4) - This is literally the same thing as 01:17:823 (5) - . It should also have Normal sampleset.
  12. 01:25:146 (4) - Same as above, this is exactly same as 01:25:382 - .
  13. 01:10:264 (4) - This slider seems to be completely off. If you listen to it for example at 25%, you can notice it is very early. I suppose it is 1/8 and should be at 01:10:323 - .
[Pata-Mon's Normal]
  1. 00:23:020 - The normal sampleset is missing, you have it even in other difficulties.
  2. 00:57:981 - Same as above.
  3. 01:10:501 - Shouldn't have a finish. This position sounds really random.
  4. 01:11:445 - Same as above.
  5. 01:14:044 - Here, a finish is missing.
Also, a general issue—the kiai sounds really empty. There should be much more finishes that actually appear in the song. I would probably recommend a little bit more complicated hitsounding, but fixing the finishes should make this pretty good too.

Most of the issues in the ALL OUT!! difficulty apply to other difficulties too. Please, be sure to check it. If you need any help or didn't understand anything, feel free to PM me.

All change

thank you for modding :)
gary00737
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