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KOKO - ~ Sai Gatsu - Sagyou Bougai Remix- ~

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o0cannian0o
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2011年12月2日 at 21:25:57

Artist: KOKO
Title: ~ Saigetsu - Sagyou Bougai Remix - ~
Source: Touhou
Tags: nicovideo fanzhen0019 sherrie__fay veoliouy vlaoye
BPM: 180
Filesize: 23139kb
Play Time: 04:00
Difficulties Available:
  1. Collab (5 stars, 849 notes)
  2. Goblin (5 stars, 1106 notes)
Download: KOKO - ~ Saigetsu - Sagyou Bougai Remix - ~
Download: KOKO - ~ Saigetsu - Sagyou Bougai Remix - ~ (no video)
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Goblin~Goblin~goblin~
for APP
need mod ><
MOE \(^0^)/
collab diff by fanzhen0019 and sherrie__fay,thanks~
skin updated at 15th October,please redownload
please download with video
[Skins made by veoliouy]
veoliouy
:lol: support
this map is REALLY AWESOME,deserve modded.
extremely suggested
Sangni
[Goblin]
03:18:420 (8,9,10) - why each slider uses 3 1/8s? It should be 4 1/8s. Well, it's just a suggestion
03:24:920 (13,14,15,16,1) - del 16; move 1 to 16, or just merge these remaining sliders

and the whole map is good :)
_lolipop
不介意的话就用中文了.

[Overall]
Tag和Source格式错误
Source中是填出自的游戏或其他, 而不是专辑名. 东方曲填Touhou就好, 如果是原曲可以写游戏全名.
Tag中只需要填关键词, 用空格隔开, 无需出现括号顿号以及注释性文字(如Circle, Arranger), 所有guest mapper的名字也写在这里.
BG最好是4:3比例, 推荐1024*768.
需要设定一个preview point, 在合适的地方(通常是歌曲的高潮部分的开始)设定, 方法是菜单栏 - Timing - Set Current ... (最后一个), 这样可以使试听时听到的是高潮部分.
Audio Lead-in 可以适当缩短. (nazi)
Custom color可以调整的更美观一些. (nazi)

[Goblin]
总体来说还算是不错的map.
既然是for app, 有些细节上的地方我也就不挑了.
00:32:086 (1,2) - 这里一定要用slider的话建议是1/4.
01:07:253 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - 这里的节奏似乎不是这样的.
02:41:753 (13) - 这里我完全听不出1/8.
03:18:420 (8,9,10) - 最好不要这样摆.
03:24:753 (12,13,14,15) - ^
03:30:753 (x) - add a note.
03:32:753 (3) - 这里的break有些诡异, 建议摆上好了.
03:37:920 (3) - ^

音效方面的话我最近听力不太好, 个人意见仅供参考.
00:02:086 (1,2,3) - 像这样的Finish - Finish - Finish 对我来说太吵了, N-N-F?
00:04:253 (2,3,4) - N-N-C?
00:07:753 (4,5) - W-N?
00:04:586 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - N-N-N-C-N-F?
以上类似的有好多, 不重复说了, 还有一些random whistle, 最好是能有规律一些. 有些部分是2,4clap, 但是经常有地方忘记加突然断开, 建议补上.
03:11:420 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 这样的一串Finish在我看来很吵, 类似的还有03:19:670 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - .
03:39:420 (1) - 从这里开始换成soft比较好.

先写这写吧, 现在加星需要kd了我一直没有去赚, 所以没法加了.
Topic Starter
o0cannian0o
写了这么多真是幸苦你啦,非常感谢 ;) KD一枚送上
fanzhen0019
不想被挑的话Source只填Touhou就好

Custom color(Try this?
[Colours]
Combo1 : 255,98,98
Combo2 : 230,230,230
Combo3 : 107,107,252
Combo4 : 247,254,107
Preview Point可以设在00:46:086
这样别人一听就知道是碎月remix

另外nazi一下..
03:39:420 (1,2,3,4,5) - 如果1在y轴上建议用旋转72度来摆五角星
04:00:086 (1) - 最后这里可以把combo color改成红色 XD

STARRRRRRR for such a cute song!!!
Sangni
I FC'd it


but why... wwwwwwwww

Snowy Dream
[General]
song setup里的storyboarding中的letter box可以去掉. 毕竟有video.
.osb文件不用的话删掉 0.0?


[Goblin]
00:17:420 (11) - newcombo
00:25:420 (9) - ^
00:28:086 (11) - ^
01:23:836 (6) - 这里总感觉有点斜了
01:28:086 (7) - 摆摆好...
02:13:420 (9) - newcombo
02:16:086 (11) - ^
03:44:586 (6,7) - 感觉位置换下会好 @.@?
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好图0w0
拉条拉的好看点就更完美了
KOI_JAPAN
this was fucking awesome. i realllllly like this map! 8-)

i hope you are still getting people to mod this!
yishen
蛮不错的,但是视频有点闪,希望能改进下



不知道为什么老是提示我我说的话太少了
DarknessAngel
You can ignore my boring mod :X

[General]

I think it is fine.

[Goblin]


00:17:253(10) - Add new combo
00:25:253(8) - ^
00:27:920(10) - ^
01:04:086(8) - ^
01:14:753(9) - ^
01:17:086(7) - ^
01:24:420(10) - ^
02:05:253(10) - ^
02:13:586(10) - ^
02:15:920(10) - ^
02:41:253(10) - ^
03:02:753(9) - ^
03:12:420(10) - ^


My massage

看起來沒什麼大問題
我個人覺得NC改成那樣比較好看
KD要不要給就看你自己(不過我想要 XD)
這首歌好Q,而且很好聽
音效也設得很好
我期待這圖approved的那天><
LKs
[00:46:420] 这里真没必要用这么大间距 或者说不要用没有 连结 的间距 比如交互式slider离的再远也是有据可循的 这部分跳要跳的有道理
[00;58:670] 以你之前的难度 这里没必要省略不跟背景 破坏了平均难度 也会让人意料不到之前那么难这里会省略
[01:06:586] 用N-normal音量65%
[03:31:753] clap应该放这里吧
kiai进的和出的位置都变到白线上

简言之
从map里看到了一些借鉴的经典patterns 一些自创的创新 一些亮点 还有一种不够成熟的氛围
或许有的mapper的map里时常出现nazi错误但给人整体的感觉是流畅的平顺的 而你的这个时不时在10分的水准上时不时又落到5分 就像金粉和铜粉被挤压成一块的感觉 顺着纹理一路摸过去有柔顺也有粗粝
或许等这成熟氛围找到你后又是一片天地
Hello_old
PERFECT Map...
as I really know nothing about mapping...
anyway...I LIKE IT
wcx19911123
hi
request from veoliouy

[General]
BG must be 1024x768 or 800x600
cuz your video is 15MB , maybe cut your mp3 into 128kbps? don't forget fix timing if you change mp3 file

[Goblin]
rhyme and hitsound are good
but arrangement and slider shape are boring

jumps make map fun to play , but not all jump is fun and they sometimes doesn't follow the song well
for examples :
00:02:753 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this jumps is good , cuz they follow the vocal to increase the spacing
00:07:920 (5,1) - but this is boring , the vocal here is suddenly louder , but the spacing is not a jump
00:12:920 (6,7) - ^
00:21:420 (1) - I do know this slider is following the vocal "la la la la" , but I think use circles here is betther , for this , change circles before/after this slider to sliders if you change this slider to circles
00:23:586 (7,8,9) - same , vocal become louder but spacing not changing
ok , I stop now , suggestions above this is just tell you , anti-jump should follow the song , don't jump randomly

and the other problem is , jump between circles and sliders is different
2 circles can change into 1 slider , but you should click 2 times on circles but just hold on a slider , so a slider is much more easier than 2 circles
so if you make jumps , the spacing between circles should smaller than the spacing between sliders
for example :
00:47:753 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is too hard to play , maybe the most hard pattern in your map , cuz the jumps are all in circles
00:50:753 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
00:54:420 (1,2,3,4) - this seems hard to paly , but in fact , they are very easy , cuz the jumps are all in sliders
01:13:086 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^
01:45:420 - ciecles before this are much harder to play than the following sliders , even the slider is 1.5x speed
stop here , what I want to tell you is just , slider jumps should longer than circles , to make the all pattern be in the same diffculty

after this , I should say , the map is mess
slider shapes are boring , and circles go in a strange way , this broke the map's flow and beauty
use some beautiful slider shapes and make some patterns symmetrical , or let sliders go around circles , this map will be better
for example :
02:12:086 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - this are 3 pentagons , this is good
03:20:753 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 2 squares , nice
some other patterns in your map seems mess
04:00:086 (1) - this slider shape is bad , far away from a heart

at last is just some nazi :
01:50:503 - add ciecle
00:10:420 - clap
00:15:753 - ^
then I ignore same issues after this , I don't know whay you miss a clap in every here
00:18:420 - remove whistle
00:53:753 (8) - change to 1/4 repeat slider
01:18:086 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I don't know why this stream's spacing is not the same

I love this song , but map need lots of lots of more working
good luck
qinche
00:00 <qinche> : 嗯,我说一个比较严重的问题好了
00:01 <qinche> : 节奏是固定的1/2无间断啊XD,你看看,几乎就是不停的满屏幕跑
00:02 <qinche> : 嗯,我认为偶尔有点小间断,让节奏更丰富一点会比较好
00:03 <qinche> : 排列就比较杂乱无章吧,间距什么的没有太固定,我觉得是新人普遍问题,多做几张大概就有谱了

有人拜托我来mod这张XD我比较习惯给大概方向。
Tohno Akiha
中文应该可以吧
真的很喜欢这个map 但感觉跳跃的平均距离好大~
假如配合音乐节奏和调子做几个突出的跳跃或组合 然后减小普通note的间距和三连 可能会变得更好些(我不专业 只好这样说啦 别介意)
1分前后有好多滑条啊。。做的复杂些或者改成跳怎么样? :roll: 唔 因为那样有点boring的说~
其他部分都很屌 期待更多人mod!
veoliouy
谢谢大家的mod和提议!作为助手看到这张图这么多人关注真的很开心!
希望可以顺利app OwO
如果觉得这图好玩别忘了向身边的人推荐一下哦xD
再次感谢!


thanks for all mods and suggestions! happy to see so many people focus on this map!
wish it can be approval www
if you think this map is fun pls introduce the map to your friends xD
huge appreciate!
AngelHoney
簡單說一下吧 (懶得抓nazi了

combo color 里 有一個淺米色 看不大清 換個顯眼的顏色?

曲子太長了 感覺map有點單調o.o (何不嘗試下剪輯下mp3 做成面向rank的

不過以rank標準來說 的確沒啥問題o_o;
Bad_Baka HT OwO
哦喵 楼上是AHO姐
觉得note和视频的对比不怎么强烈呢 建议皮肤对比稍强烈些 玩着也会舒服点
节奏和排列玩着很舒服呢 尤其是节奏XD 这图很好玩呢 转发图去XDDD
希望早日rank OwO :) 选曲的Veloiouy眼光很好呢 西瓜这图不错很喜感 =w=


希望早日rank~~~ =w=OwO
Ibuki Suika
太跳了哦草 :(

Your message is too short.Your message is too short.
sherrie__fay
rhythm mod..DO NOT NEED KDS!!kds for counting SB/SKIN ONLY._.
00:05:253(8) -delete
00:07:920(5) - delete
00:13:170(8,9) - delete
00:15:920(4) - delete
00:18:586(5) -^
00:23:920(9) - ^
00:26:586(9)-^
00:32:086 - +note
00:41:253 - ^
01:45:086(1) -remove new combo
00:45:253(2) -delete
00:50:253(5,6) - delete
00:53:003(4) - delete
01:04:920(4) - delete
01:07:336(7) - delete
01:10:003(6) - ^
01:10:253(8) - ^
01:15:586(1) - ^
01:26:253(7) - ^
02:11:920(9) - ^
02:33:253(2) - ^
02:38:253(5,6) - ^
02:40:920(7,8) - ^
02:46:836(7) - ^
02:47:836(2) - ^
02:50:253(1,2) - ^
02:52:170(4) - ^
02:52:670(8) - ^
02:53:170(10) - ^
02:55:336(7) - ^
02:58:003(6) - ^
03:03:586(1) - ^
03:19:336(2) - ^
03:19:670(4) - ^
03:22:336(4) - ^
03:22:836(8) - ^
03:23:336(10) - ^
03:23:836(4) - ^
03:30:753 - +note
03:37:586 - +note
03:38:753 - +note
03:45:586(4) - delete
03:46:253(8) - ^
04:01:420 - +note
think for fix some of them.plz.then i will give further mod.
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