17:06 Pheon: 1. i'll look at timing for a bit
17:07 Pheon: 2. main section (chorus-like?) is solid, fun to play
17:07 Pheon: 3. some streams can be revised a little for ease of reading / complexity being a bit more obvious
17:07 Pheon: 4. i'd suggest splitting 1/6ths into parts of 3s rather than 4s because they're pretty awkward to read otherwise, especially in compound-timing streams
17:08 Pheon: 5. holy fuck i feel sorry for you having to figure those timing signatures LOL
17:08 Fiya: lmao
17:08 Fiya: dem 5/8 and 7/8 bars
17:08 Pheon: good shit on that, well done
17:09 Fiya: also I'm gonna be completely honest
17:09 Pheon: hm?
17:09 Fiya: I have no idea if half the streams would work at all
17:09 Pheon: some of them work really well
17:09 Pheon: some of them work well but could be done better
17:09 Pheon: some of them are "uhh let's get through this"
17:10 Fiya: lol
17:10 Pheon: just going through it on editor autoplay, will link something whenevver i wanna comment on something
17:10 Fiya: kk
17:11 Pheon: the 1/4+1/3 is something i'm a big fan of in general btw
17:11 Fiya: I've actually never mapped a compound stream in taiko before this
17:11 Pheon: 01:16:281 (323) - example of stream that flows really well
17:11 Pheon: 01:19:093 (344) - example of stream that doesn't flow as well
17:12 Pheon: long donstream into kdkkdkkddkd feels awkward to me personally, i'd either introduce a kat or two earlier on, break up the two streams or make the latter half less complex (which'd kinda go against the rest of the map)
17:13 Pheon: simple fix would be to turn 01:19:562 (349) - into k for instance
17:13 Fiya: 01:19:468 (348,349) - what if one of these two was a kat
17:13 Pheon: yeah
17:13 Fiya: yeap
17:13 Pheon: either of those two works
17:14 Pheon: i'd personally go for 349 considering you're going for a more complex rhythm regardless
17:15 Pheon: 01:29:031 (412) - example of stream that flows well but could be better imo; 01:30:156 (424) - could change this to d to put more of an emphasis on the 01:30:343 (426) - . Personally I always think following up a [kdkk] section with d flows the most naturally
17:15 Pheon: be it either with dkddk, ddkkd, or dkkkd
17:16 Fiya: suuuure
17:16 Pheon: 01:34:374 (450) - gotta say i love this stream tbh
17:17 Pheon: the 1:29 thing was more of a suggestion i guess, because yours still fits with the song and the rest of the map
17:17 Fiya: I'm taking it
17:17 Fiya: idk how any of this plays
17:18 Fiya: and either way sounds fine to me so I'll take the suggestion
17:19 Fiya: also that section at 1:34 was a bitch to time but fun to map
17:19 Pheon: 01:38:031 (483) - same internal struggle with this note but not sure how to fix and/or if anything would be better. Reason i'm struggling with it is because right before that there's a different kind of complexity with the ddkdkddkd
17:19 Pheon: might be better left as-is
17:20 Pheon: yeah best left as-is
17:20 Fiya: kk
17:21 Pheon: 01:46:748 (558) - could consider changing this to a k for a climactic ending to the sequence
17:22 Pheon: or at least rework that stream in some way or another a little bit
17:22 Pheon: (i gotta say this is hard to even look at, i can't just refer to the song like "yeah it sounds like this why not map like this"
17:22 Pheon: it's like '〇∀〇wakarimasenlol')
17:22 Fiya: lmao
17:23 Pheon: nvm good as-is
17:23 Fiya: o
17:23 Pheon: would be doubling it up too much with my suggestion
17:24 Pheon: i'm glad you kept the part after that simple
17:24 Pheon: gives players a break, gives the guitar time to stand out and it still sounds kewl
17:24 Fiya: I think it leads into the-yeah
17:26 Pheon: 02:06:717 (645) - could consider turning this into a k for the sake of buildup to the last major d on the bar
17:26 Pheon: also plays a bit better as k ddd k d rather than k ddd d d
17:27 Fiya: yep
17:27 Pheon: 02:11:592 (668) - i'm not sure whether i like or dislike this stream
17:27 Pheon: so i'm going with like
17:27 Pheon: LOL
17:27 Fiya: xD
17:28 Pheon: 02:15:905 (700) - i'm REALLY not sure whether i like or dislike this one though
17:28 Pheon: but i'm generally not really in favour of 5x same colour
17:29 Pheon: k listening it over 7 times
17:29 Pheon: do like it
17:29 Fiya: it like
17:29 Fiya: wierd but it fits somehow with the snare there
17:29 Pheon: yeah that's why, like
17:30 Pheon: but this entire song is weird like that
17:30 Pheon: 02:19:655 (734) - 
17:30 Fiya: I figure it probably doesn't play that well tho lol
17:30 Pheon: for instance over here i'd blast it like "why the fuck not turn 02:20:405 (740) - in a k"
17:30 Pheon: and then i listen to it like
17:30 Pheon: "fuck"
17:30 Fiya: ikr
17:30 Fiya: the song is like "no fuck your normal flowing taiko shit"
17:30 Pheon: fiya bringing in cerebral mapping
17:31 Fiya: this was painful to map
17:31 Fiya: my brain hurts
17:31 Fiya: xD
17:31 Pheon: 02:23:780 (764) - not sure if this should be a finisher; i don't think you've done so in prior cases
17:31 Fiya: that might be a typo
17:32 Pheon: i do see consistency with the finisher that comes after
17:32 Pheon: but the finisher after doesn't have any 1/2 spaced notes coming afterwards
17:32 Pheon: 02:30:155 (796) - "i hope you didn't like your accuracy anyway"
17:32 Pheon: it's sexy as fuck but
17:32 Fiya: plz
17:32 Pheon: hot damn glhf sightreading that
17:32 Pheon: LOL
17:32 Fiya: cuz the 155 bpm suddenly wasn't gonna do that anyway
17:33 Pheon: exactly
17:33 Pheon: that part is so glorious yet trolll
17:33 Fiya: at first I was like "maybe I should under map this" then said fuck it
17:33 Pheon: may wanna consider turning every note on the bar into a finisher
17:33 Pheon: for readability / effect
17:34 Fiya: lmao?
17:34 Pheon: 02:33:155 (808) -
17:34 Fiya: oh
17:34 Pheon: 02:36:155 (822) - this one would be a case of "how do"
17:34 Pheon: but stream leadin would already be enough emphasis
17:34 Pheon: 02:39:155 (835) - this one too
17:34 Pheon: 02:40:655 (841) - this one as a final one
17:34 Fiya: yeh
17:34 Pheon: just a consideration to make
17:35 Pheon: feel free to fully ignore
17:35 Fiya: when you said every note on the bar I thought you meant every note in the stream at the 155 part for some reason LOL
17:35 Pheon: yeah no LMAO
17:35 Pheon: start of bar*
17:35 Pheon: gomen not gomen
17:41 Pheon: 02:51:905 (897) - 
17:41 Pheon: i love this stream tbh
17:42 Pheon: ＣＥＲＥＢＲＡＬＳＴＲＥＡＭＩＮＧ
17:42 Pheon: yes that's what i'm going by whenever going over this map
17:42 Fiya: \o/
17:43 Fiya: lolk
17:43 Pheon: 02:57:061 (936) - another one of those streams where i was like "why would you map it like this" and then you go over it and it makes sense
17:44 Pheon: even if it doesn't directly make sense with the music
17:44 Fiya: I mean I would still change it if it plays bad
17:44 Pheon: it doesn't really play bad though
17:44 Pheon: it's just a flow i'm not used to
17:45 Pheon: the reason for that being that i don't know about triple-don in a syncoped stream
17:45 Pheon: but the preluding bit all makes sense so it does build up well to it
17:46 Pheon: >and so i figured out why you wanted to map this; syncope heaven
17:46 Fiya: I've always kinda been more okay with kkk in that kind of stream than ddd so I wanted to see if I could make it work
17:47 Pheon: the thing is, i haven't really seen it be used in a syncoped stream which is why i'm surprised
17:48 Fiya: this kind of song is probably the only place I would think of using this kind of stuff anyway xD
17:49 Pheon: 03:11:873 (1050,1051) - could consider inversing those for the mirroredness; kdkkdkdd
17:49 Fiya: sounds good
17:50 Pheon: i was like 03:19:842 (1105) - "this doesn't flow well" during play
17:50 Pheon: then i listen to the music
17:50 Pheon: "dammit"
17:50 Fiya: honestly that whole section is like "HOW THE FUCK DO I MAP THIS"
17:51 Pheon: if you're wondering why i only gave one basic suggestion it's because that whole section is also like "HOW THE FUCK DO I MOD THIS"
17:51 Fiya: try removing every kat on the second beat of a measure that isn't a part of the syncopated rythem and tell me how that sounds to you comapratively
17:52 Pheon: starting from?
17:52 Fiya: 03:20:405 -
17:53 Fiya: 03:31:655 - to this stream
17:53 Fiya: that 12 seconds is just like idonteven
17:53 Pheon: 03:20:780 - these don't have a kat on it already though, unless if you mean the d k with the k in between
17:54 Fiya: er
17:54 Fiya: 3rd beat
17:54 Fiya: soz
17:54 Pheon: oh
17:55 Pheon: so 03:22:655 (1123) - 03:25:655 (1139) - 03:28:655 (1155) - etc?
17:55 Pheon: 03:31:655 (1171) - excluded because stream
17:56 Fiya: 03:21:155 (1115) - included
17:56 Fiya: but yeah
17:56 Pheon: oh
17:56 Pheon: i thought not to do those because in a syncope
17:56 Fiya: that's just it like
17:57 Pheon: (just at the end of it)
17:57 Fiya: I have no clue what to do here
17:57 Fiya: lololol
17:57 Fiya: did that actually play okay
17:57 Pheon: i don't know if that's a good idea
17:57 Pheon: removing those
17:57 Pheon: it plays just fine
17:58 Pheon: i mean, as fine as this song will allow for
17:58 Pheon: and this way it does make for really interesting setups especially on those beats
17:58 Fiya: alright
17:58 Pheon: 1st bar; part at the first half of the syncope, 2nd bar; midstream, 3rd bar; part of the second half of the syncope
17:58 Fiya: I was trying to figure out something that wouldn't straight up fuck whoever was playing at that point
18:00 Pheon: lemme just testplay it again
18:00 Pheon: it actually plays really fucking well tbh
18:01 Fiya: seriously
18:02 Pheon: and when you get to the part after that
18:02 Pheon: it's like
18:02 Pheon: hnngh.
18:02 Fiya: lmao
18:02 Fiya: okay
18:02 Pheon: the stream falls on mainhand
18:02 Pheon: you just gotta throw whatever sense of beat out of your mind for a bit
18:02 Pheon: because things are not gonna fall onbeat
18:02 Pheon: if you keep that tidbit in mind
18:02 Pheon: it's just sexy
18:03 Fiya: yeah I don't even think those bars have a time signiture tbh
18:03 Fiya: it sounds like 0000-0000
18:04 Pheon: testplayed the part after that as well, didn't see anything wrong with that either
18:04 Pheon: i'm just trying to mod by pointing out what would be wrong with the map because i sure as hell can't pinpoint much more asides from that
18:04 Pheon: this is some advanced stuff
18:05 Pheon: 04:07:090 (1375) - this may need some revising
18:06 Pheon: with the way the 1/3rds are set up 04:08:215 (1384) - feels like it should become a k
18:06 Fiya: sure
18:07 Pheon: [kdd kdd kkk]d would probably sound better with the song also
18:07 Pheon: although strictly going by song it'd be more like [dkd dkd kkk]d
18:07 Pheon: if going by drums of course
18:08 Pheon: if going by guitar, [kkk ddk ddk]d
18:08 Pheon: something like that
18:10 Pheon: also can we take a little break here for a bit, i kinda want to give my mind a bit of rest before going through it a bit more
18:10 Fiya: I like kddkddkkkd
18:10 Pheon: otherwise i'm gonna throw out bad suggestions and i don't want that to happen to this map
18:10 Fiya: np lol
18:10 Pheon: alright cool, that'd be what i would go for myself too w
18:10 Fiya: especially cuz the one before it is ddkddkd
18:10 Fiya: lel
18:11 Pheon: mmhm
18:11 Pheon: i actually didn't notice that tidbit before
18:11 Pheon: that's how far my mind's out atm
18:12 Fiya: dw I just sat here, timed it and mapped it all in one sitting
18:12 Fiya: I probably need a break too
18:13 Pheon: you 10)% do
18:13 Pheon: 100%*
18:40 Pheon: 03:37:467 (1208) -  WELEFTOFFHERE
18:40 Pheon: 05:34:737 (2) - 
18:40 Pheon: 05:32:997 (2) - 
18:41 Pheon: [ddd kdd kdd kkk ddd kdd]kkk
18:41 Pheon: 05:06:258 (1) - 
18:41 Pheon: 05:07:563 (1) - 

-intermission for pizza sake, afterwards modding was done with voicechat so only timings sent from here on out-

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20:12 Pheon: 05:01:409 (1655) - 1/6 -talktalk-
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20:24 Pheon: 05:13:215 (1740) - REMOVE CONSISTENCY SAKE