offfset ~ -20ms
Thanks for your mod!Blan_C wrote:
Hello, NM from my queueInsane Map is really good. I tried hard and couldnt find more. Good luck!
- Overally i think hitsounds on 00:15:496 (1) - 00:18:163 (1) - etc are a bit too loud, try decrasing volume of the hs mp3 file a bit. Probably 40% would be fine, right?
- 00:15:496 (1,2) - you can improve this blanket tried
- 00:23:496 (1,2) - ^ I mean, this is just copypaste rotate slider, so it's hard to judge where would it makes a good blanket, but I'll try
- 01:09:496 (3,4) - ^ OK
- 00:45:830 (5) - Try moving this to 412:42 to make it more flowy (anti clockwise movement from 00:44:663 (4) - ) Yes I see what you mean.
But the angle you suggest was diffent from the usual, so I tone it down a bit- 01:00:663 (1,2) - Please ctrl g this. That way you will support guitars and 'nnnn' vocal sound sure
Thanks for your mod!PolkaMocha wrote:
[General:][Easy:]
- I got offset 4,826. Your timing sounds late.. :thinking: 4ms. I will get it check
[Normal:]
- 00:44:826 (1,2,3) - THis would be super cool if it was less dense because of the quieter vocals. Ex: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8511245 Yes, I notice that the vocals are quieter, but I prefer some consistency. And the pattern here is not that hard, thou.
- 01:10:826 (3) - Circles do better here because it gives more emphasis in terms of 01:11:492 (1) - being a vocal section.But isn't 01:10:830 (3) - is also a vocal section?
[Afteword:]
- 00:36:830 (1) - Why not x:40 y:132? That overlapping slider tail is pretty unattractive and while my suggestion doesn't go with your distance snap, it's not off to the point where it disturbs the legibility of the map. Fair enough.
- 00:52:163 (5,1) - This looks heavily unpolished; this overlap here. How about this? It doesn't touch the hp bar and helps give it a cleaner look. OK
- 00:56:830 (1,2) - Circles would do amazing here to give those drums a boost of emphasis and allow for a difficult build up. I get you tried to emphasize with a new slider shape, but personally, I don't think that'll be as noticeable to players as circles. I tried
- 01:17:996 (5) - I would take off this clap, it's super loud and isn't going to anything. Really distracting.I think this is for consistency since on Insane, there's a triplet here and it sounds alot better
- Your hitsound choice for the kiai is extremely underwhelming and I think using drum-hitnormal as a snare didn't do too well. Try something louder and more noticeable from the soft hit normal. I'm not the one who hitsounds so I can't answer this
thanks for the mod!!PolkaMocha wrote:
[Hard:]
- 00:12:830 (1,3) - These should be straight vertically, it just looks nicer aesthetically and matches it's prior similar patterns better. prior similar patterns are intentionally slightly off too. It looks too mechanical (and hence unfitting with the rest of the map) being perfectly vertical.
- 01:17:996 (3) - Again, that clap is super offputting. At least quiet it down... not in charge of the hitsounds but that is to denote an irregular rhythm and that's a good way to do it
Thanks for your mod!gottagof4ast wrote:
And I'm back for the nmdoneGeneral
Your bg is .png, change it to .jpg for a smaller filesizeInsane
00:39:830 (3) - this note does not have the extra drum sound like 00:39:496 (1) - does and should therefor not have more spacing ok changed
00:38:830 (1) - don't really see the logic in your nc's on this part, it causes for some really short combo's like the one I jsut pointed out I try to combo following the vocals and make it as relevant as possible, so this is the best result imo
00:42:830 (4,5,6) - this is like almost exactly the same sound so I would try to make sure that you have a sharp angle at 00:43:163 (5) - so they also feel similar to 00:42:163 (1,2,3) - I mean, the angle here doesn't really matter as the ds between the 2 circles are relatively small, so there's that
00:47:496 (1) - sound is really loud so why lower spacing here consistency with the first part. also, sometimes I use this to signify changes
00:50:163 (1,2,3,4) - your other 1234 jumps had a clear structure into grouping them into groups of 2 which is not really visible here ok changed
01:05:996 (1,2,3,4,5) - these jumps flow a bit unpredictable with them changing flow direction alot I mean, this is sharp angle. also, this pattern is pretty much similar to the star in the previous pattern, the only that forces it not to be a star is that I can't create one without disgusting overlap,
so ...
01:08:163 (1,2,3,4) - These sounds are pretty loud and you emphasize the repeating nature of it well by stacking but why are they so close when 01:07:163 (1,2,3,4) - is like alot further apart increased
01:08:830 (1) - some more spacing on this to emphasize this wouldn't hurt either since the previous one got ds increase, so this one should be as well
01:10:163 (5) - angling under a -30 degree corner would make you pattern keep the circular flow better Want to keep 01:09:496 (3,5,6) -
as neat as it is
01:19:163 (3,4) - emphasize the vocal here more by placing a 1/4 slider instead, this way you also get al larger contrast between this part and 01:19:496 (1,2,3,4) - which only exists out of circles There are 2 drum sounds at 01:19:163 (3,4) - so I want to keep it as 2 circles to emphasize it,
also, I do believe the color part give enough contrast to the 2 part
This map would be alot better if it was consistent when and for what the ds changes,
ex 00:48:830 (5,6,7,8) - you give 7 alot more spacing and that is good but you also gave 5 more spacing which is in no way loud enough to warrant even more spacing to ok this part is terrible, changed
ex2 00:52:830 (1,2,3) - : 3 has an added sound on the sliderhead but it's mapped in the same pattern as if it was the exact same.
You actually gave the bonus sound more spacing at 00:54:830 (3) - so that makes it having less spacing here even weirder vocal consistecy I believe
Overall, it's still pretty good though
Also, my name is spelled incorrectly in the description lol oh snap, sorry hehe
Gl with the map
09:27 LeKhanhHoa: Yami ơi
09:27 LeKhanhHoa: Rảnh ko em?
09:27 Yamicchi: rảnh
09:27 LeKhanhHoa: Rồi
09:27 LeKhanhHoa: Check hộ t coi t phá map tới đâu
rồi
09:27 Yamicchi: :))
09:27 Yamicchi: ok
09:28 Yamicchi: insane hử
09:28 LeKhanhHoa: uhm
09:28 Yamicchi: để redl cái
09:28 LeKhanhHoa: ok
09:28 Yamicchi: nhìn cái default bg ngứa mắt quá
09:29 Yamicchi: 00:09:496 (6) - tao nhớ có 1 cái
hitsound khá hợp chỗ này
09:29 Yamicchi: mà lâu quá quên mất nó nằm trong
set nào rồi
09:29 LeKhanhHoa: Thế sao t nhớ :P
09:31 Yamicchi: 00:15:496 (1) - đấy hitsound ngon
lành lên liền
09:32 LeKhanhHoa: Hai hai
09:32 LeKhanhHoa: Arigatou
09:32 Yamicchi: 00:26:163 (1) - xa ra tí em
09:32 Yamicchi: spacing confuse quá
09:32 LeKhanhHoa: Ghi hết đi
09:32 LeKhanhHoa: Lát t reply
09:32 LeKhanhHoa: H t đi mua đồ cái
09:32 Yamicchi:
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy
yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
09:33 Yamicchi: 00:43:830 (2) - stack hoặc là overlap
nghệ thuật
09:33 Yamicchi: nửa vời kiểu này...
09:33 Yamicchi: 00:46:163 (1) - dời nó qua phải hẳn
luôn, overlap vầy xấu
09:34 Yamicchi: 00:46:830 (1) - bỏ NC cũng đc
09:35 Yamicchi: 01:10:163 (5) -
09:35 Yamicchi: cầm 01:10:496 (6) - xoay 240*, đặt ở
X336 Y144
09:35 Yamicchi: better flow
09:36 Yamicchi: 01:19:496 (1) - cái này hoặc là phải
bẻ flow hoặc là tăng spacing, hoặc cả 2
09:36 Yamicchi: 01:19:330 (4,1,2) - linear quá
09:36 Yamicchi: tiếp, tới NC
09:37 Yamicchi: 00:09:163 (5,6) - t hiểu tại sao m làm
vầy, cơ mà tại cái pattern này lặp có 3 lần thôi nên
thành ra cái này nó lẻ
09:37 Yamicchi: cho thành 1/2 reverse luôn là đc
09:37 Yamicchi: 00:18:163 (1) - spacing cũng hơi nhỏ
09:38 Yamicchi: à mà thôi
09:38 Yamicchi: cũng kh tới nổi tệ
09:38 LeKhanhHoa: Deny all thanks
09:38 LeKhanhHoa: Chờ t tí
09:39 Yamicchi: 00:32:163 (3) - ở đây hồi nãy m chọn
là 1 circle
09:39 Yamicchi: giờ sao thành 1 slider rồi
09:39 Yamicchi: 00:21:496 (3) -
09:40 Yamicchi: 00:35:496 (1) - bỏ CN
09:40 Yamicchi: NC
09:40 Yamicchi: 00:38:163 (5,1) - swap NC
09:41 LeKhanhHoa: 00:43:830 (2,3) - Cái này t thấy
bth
09:41 LeKhanhHoa: No pls
09:41 Yamicchi: 00:40:163 (1,2) - swap NC
09:41 Yamicchi: 00:41:496 (1) - bỏ NC
09:41 Yamicchi: m thấy bth nhưng spacing m đang
dùng để overlap nó khác
09:41 Yamicchi: thành ra nhìn nó giôgns 1 cái issue
hơn là m cố ý
09:42 Yamicchi: chứ ai chả biết m cố ý
09:42 Yamicchi: 00:48:830 (5,1) - swap nc
09:42 Yamicchi: 00:51:163 (6,1) - swap nc
09:43 Yamicchi: 00:56:163 (1) - vẫn đang follow vocal
mắc cc gì m nc :v
09:43 Yamicchi: bỏ
09:43 Yamicchi: 00:59:496 (5) - nc
09:43 Yamicchi: 01:00:663 (1,2) - swap
09:43 Yamicchi: 01:01:830 (1,2) - swap
09:43 Yamicchi: 01:04:496 (1,3) - swap
09:44 Yamicchi: 01:05:996 (1,2) - swap
09:44 Yamicchi: 01:07:163 (1,3) -
09:44 Yamicchi: 01:08:163 (1) - bỏ
09:45 Yamicchi: 01:13:830 (1) - bỏ
09:46 Yamicchi: 01:15:830 (1) - bỏ
09:46 Yamicchi: 01:17:496 (1) - bỏ
09:46 Yamicchi: 01:18:164 (8) - NC
09:46 Yamicchi: 01:18:496 (1) - bỏ
09:46 Yamicchi: xong
09:48 LeKhanhHoa: Đệt mẹ
09:48 LeKhanhHoa: Dài vc
09:48 Yamicchi: mỗi dòng có nhiêu đâu loz :v
09:52 LeKhanhHoa: 01:10:163 (5,6) - ?
09:53 Yamicchi: lộn
09:53 Yamicchi: X448 Y60
09:53 Yamicchi: :))
09:54 LeKhanhHoa: overlap wtf?
09:54 Yamicchi: wtf
09:55 LeKhanhHoa: X448 Y60 overlap
09:55 Yamicchi: http://puu.sh/wEk6o/cb834c728c.jpg
09:55 LeKhanhHoa: đm cái số 5
09:55 LeKhanhHoa: bảo t xoay cái số 6
09:55 Yamicchi: cầm cái số 5 copy paste xoay 240 :v
09:55 Yamicchi: typo
10:02 LeKhanhHoa: đm loạn nc rồi
10:07 LeKhanhHoa: Đệt, sao t thấy m giống NC
instrument vậy?
10:08 Yamicchi: đệt tin tao đi
10:08 Yamicchi: m NC rất là loạn luôn đấy
10:08 LeKhanhHoa: vocal?
10:08 Yamicchi: nope
10:08 Yamicchi: vocal kiểu đó cũngk h phải nữa
11:01 LeKhanhHoa: Recheck pls BN
11:01 Yamicchi: fixed everything?
11:01 LeKhanhHoa: Hình như vậy
11:02 LeKhanhHoa: T sửa pattern trong kial
11:02 Yamicchi: sec
11:05 Yamicchi: ok ổn hơn rồi
11:05 Yamicchi: tao ăn kudos map này chưa
11:05 LeKhanhHoa: rồi
11:05 LeKhanhHoa: you greed
11:05 Yamicchi: lul
Sinnoh wrote:
why's the entire chorus pink? because reasons
General
Soft-hitfinish2 is way too quiet, increase it's volume or just use the default
01:17:996 (6) - check hitsound on all diffs lol
00:04:830 (1,2,3,4) - These need hitsounds added, either on the first or fourth circle. There's no feedback so they're hard to acc
01:19:496 (1) - ^ there are no hitsounds for the entire section
remove anime from the tags, it's automatically applied in genre so it's redundant fair enough
imaginary bubble popped for no hitsounds at the end :/I don't hitsound so...
Insane
00:19:163 (1,2) - This jump is way larger than anything else in this section, and has nothing to emphasise on it too ok changes
00:37:830 (4,1) - has almost the same amount of emphasis as 00:38:330 (2,3) - , I'd suggest to make this pattern a bit smaller uhhh,
the 2 patterns has a pretty large difference in distance snap, and you had more time to jump to it compare to 2 circles, and it looks nicer in there imo
00:41:496 (1,2,1) - Is kind of inconsistent with 00:52:163 (1,2,1) - because of slider angle emphasis. It'd be easier if I just let my mentor explain that in this vid. The second one has much stronger emphasis compared to the first changed the second pattern
00:36:496 (6,1) - & 00:47:163 (2,1) - I just find it odd there's no spacing emphasis on starts of new sections, but there is at 00:52:496 (2,1) - Because I preceive those 2 sections as more of a transistion section, and that explains the distance
00:42:496 (2,3,4) - compared to 00:43:163 (5,6,1) - , the first has a really sharp angle but the second uses a really wide one. This makes it somewhat hard to follow flow. Can't really find anywhere else where you used angle emphasis like this. changed
Easy & Normal
00:36:163 (1) - 00:46:830 (1) - 00:56:830 (1) - Remove NC, really doesn't feel like it's needed remove all but the last one as I prefer that one to be kept as indicator of kial
ThanksSinnoh wrote:
General
Soft-hitfinish2 is way too quiet, increase it's volume or just use the default yes
01:17:996 (6) - check hitsound on all diffs lol everytime im suk at hs
00:04:830 (1,2,3,4) - These need hitsounds added, either on the first or fourth circle. There's no feedback so they're hard to acc idk can you give me an example, maybe clap on (1)?
01:19:496 (1) - ^ there are no hitsounds for the entire section clap on (1)? lol
U want sum ngáo?Hikan wrote:
đống hitsound nếu có gì apply được thì Hòa cứ thử đi, khi nào gặp cái nào khó xử thì hẳn đưa. Tại vì rep vậy loãng theard quá cái mod mà thằng không phải mapper vào rep nó ngáo ngáo
2017-07-09 13:45 LeKhanhHoa: Hi. Yami told me to pm you. Thanks for taking a look
2017-07-09 13:45 MaridiuS: hi
2017-07-09 13:45 MaridiuS: so generally i think that the map is not bad
2017-07-09 13:45 MaridiuS: just few concepts were not executed fully correctly
2017-07-09 13:46 LeKhanhHoa: Yes
2017-07-09 13:46 MaridiuS: so lets go
2017-07-09 13:46 MaridiuS: firstly this is subjective
2017-07-09 13:47 MaridiuS: but since 00:05:830 (1,2,3,4) - this spacing is used for the guitar sounding part
2017-07-09 13:47 MaridiuS: 00:06:496 (5) - this doesn't carry the same weight, and I'd suggest stacking it on (4)
2017-07-09 13:47 LeKhanhHoa: Idk
2017-07-09 13:47 LeKhanhHoa: Stacking it seems ugly to me
2017-07-09 13:48 MaridiuS: stacking shouldn't look ugly lul
2017-07-09 13:48 MaridiuS: ur not doing anything weird its really common
2017-07-09 13:48 MaridiuS: 00:10:163 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - oh also you should use same curve for both instances of these single taps
2017-07-09 13:48 MaridiuS: so copy paste and rotation is your friend here.
2017-07-09 13:49 LeKhanhHoa: Oh okay
2017-07-09 13:50 MaridiuS: 00:15:496 (1,3) - this overlap really doesn't look good
2017-07-09 13:50 MaridiuS: since your map is not based on overlaps, it shouldn't contain this weird of a one.
2017-07-09 13:50 MaridiuS: placing it here https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/M1JJnAf.jpg would be better
2017-07-09 13:50 LeKhanhHoa: Actually, it is repeated one more times thou
2017-07-09 13:51 MaridiuS: it doesn't fit the map
2017-07-09 13:51 MaridiuS: brb 2-3 mins
2017-07-09 13:51 LeKhanhHoa: sure
2017-07-09 13:57 MaridiuS: oki im back
2017-07-09 13:57 MaridiuS: so usually when you do this kind of overlaps, you base your map around them
2017-07-09 13:57 LeKhanhHoa: Okay
2017-07-09 13:57 MaridiuS: you just use the overlap on a seemingly random pattern
2017-07-09 13:57 MaridiuS: which could be done better with my suggestion.
2017-07-09 13:58 MaridiuS: but ofc if you apply my suggestion, you'll need to rearrange other patterns related to it
2017-07-09 13:58 LeKhanhHoa: Yes I know.
2017-07-09 13:59 MaridiuS: next, you'll want to differentiate the spacing
2017-07-09 13:59 MaridiuS: you use similar spacing on 1/1 beats as you use for 1/2 beats
2017-07-09 13:59 MaridiuS: it could get confusing
2017-07-09 14:00 MaridiuS: 00:17:496 (5,1) - for example look how close this is.
2017-07-09 14:00 MaridiuS: You'll also want to make 00:18:163 (1) - special, as it is a down beat, and seemingly strong
2017-07-09 14:00 MaridiuS: so giving it larger spacing should work much better
2017-07-09 14:00 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/HGRl6Oi.jpg this spacing might be ideal or something
2017-07-09 14:01 LeKhanhHoa: I'll see what I can do
2017-07-09 14:01 MaridiuS: it could work as a gimmick, but however, the map isn't really rhythmically consistent
2017-07-09 14:01 MaridiuS: 00:22:496 (3,4,5) - because this doesnt have a 1/1 gap, you'll have to focus a bit more to realize what's 1/2,
2017-07-09 14:02 MaridiuS: 00:26:163 (1,2,3) - here's the pattern that doesn't really fit
2017-07-09 14:02 MaridiuS: having no overlap is never a mistake
2017-07-09 14:02 MaridiuS: 00:28:830 (1,2,3) - same for this, its a bit random since you on that bit mostly not overlap it with a slider that happened previously on the timeline
2017-07-09 14:03 MaridiuS: 00:32:163 (3) - like this one isn't behind (1)
2017-07-09 14:03 LeKhanhHoa: Fair enough
2017-07-09 14:03 LeKhanhHoa: I'll fix them all
2017-07-09 14:03 MaridiuS: wait osu direct is pissing me off
2017-07-09 14:03 MaridiuS: reconnecting
2017-07-09 14:04 MaridiuS: 00:31:496 (1,2,3) -
2017-07-09 14:04 MaridiuS: when having such placement you should focus on making a triangle
2017-07-09 14:04 MaridiuS: having (3) equally visual distanced from both (2) and (1)
2017-07-09 14:04 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/NX0GIFb.jpg
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: 00:34:163 (1,2,3) - similar could be applied here
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: i prefer having one side filled, rather than having emptiness
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: will explain
2017-07-09 14:06 LeKhanhHoa: OK
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/4VeRCzc.jpg
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: something like this for example
2017-07-09 14:07 MaridiuS: you will connect more patterns visually
2017-07-09 14:07 MaridiuS: giving no empty spaces
2017-07-09 14:07 MaridiuS: 00:36:496 (6) - you can make this extend to the yellow tick before the slider
2017-07-09 14:08 MaridiuS: with this spacing it is expected for (1) to be after 1/8
2017-07-09 14:08 MaridiuS: 00:36:830 (1,2,3,4) - you can also connect patterns here in a similar way i mentioned
2017-07-09 14:08 MaridiuS: by placing (3) close to the big slider
2017-07-09 14:09 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/w8VOZO5.jpg
2017-07-09 14:09 MaridiuS: 00:38:163 (1,2,3,4) - here another example where you could fill more holes, do it like this pattern 00:48:830 (1,2,3,4) -
2017-07-09 14:11 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/xqJ9AIf.jpg 00:42:163 (1,2,4) - see how i've put (2) to have same visual distance from both sliders
2017-07-09 14:11 MaridiuS: that's a e s t h e t i c
2017-07-09 14:12 LeKhanhHoa: will try
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: the rest of connecting patterns i'll leave to you
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: will now ginve some other gameplay feedback
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: 00:42:163 (1,2,3,4) - you formed here a nice circular flow
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: 00:43:163 (5,6) - but broke it unfairly here
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: without a reason, it should all be a part of the same part, therefore same kind of flow that you formed with previous two
2017-07-09 14:13 MaridiuS: 00:45:496 (4,5,6) - here it was done well
2017-07-09 14:13 LeKhanhHoa: i like to preceive it as this thou
2017-07-09 14:15 LeKhanhHoa: I mean, it is like this
2017-07-09 14:16 LeKhanhHoa: 1 2 3 is one group
2017-07-09 14:16 LeKhanhHoa: 4 5 6 is one group
2017-07-09 14:16 LeKhanhHoa: and both is like that
2017-07-09 14:16 MaridiuS: but a pattern alter
2017-07-09 14:16 MaridiuS: 00:45:496 (4,5,6) -
2017-07-09 14:16 MaridiuS: they're done in same flow style
2017-07-09 14:16 MaridiuS: on the pattern i pointed out it is not
2017-07-09 14:17 MaridiuS: okay now the kiai is a bit lacking in visual consistency
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: since the map up to this point
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: kept a level of consistent visual distance
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: so should the kiai
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/Sx8tJCJ.jpg lets take this pattern for example
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: 01:01:996 (1,2,3) -
2017-07-09 14:19 MaridiuS: thanks to the approach circle, we can tell that (3) is further away from (2) than (1) is
2017-07-09 14:19 MaridiuS: there are two options, to make them the same distance
2017-07-09 14:19 MaridiuS: and the most preferably is to make (3) also be the same distance from (2) and (1)
2017-07-09 14:20 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/kha7NFO.jpg this, but its your choice this is generally the most accepted style
2017-07-09 14:21 LeKhanhHoa: Problably will make it bigger thou
2017-07-09 14:21 MaridiuS: 01:06:830 (5,1,3) - https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/dspK3xr.jpg another example
2017-07-09 14:21 MaridiuS: 01:12:163 (3,4) - same should kinda be applied to blanket distance
2017-07-09 14:21 MaridiuS: 01:12:163 (3,5) -
2017-07-09 14:21 MaridiuS: if both blankets have same distance it should loook better
2017-07-09 14:22 MaridiuS: 01:04:996 (3) - this should be 2 circles, since it has vocals on both the start and the end of the slider
2017-07-09 14:23 MaridiuS: 01:10:163 (5) - good idea is to make this slider 1/1, because you're following exclusively vocals kinda
2017-07-09 14:23 LeKhanhHoa: Oh, I can't hear vocals on the sliderend thou
2017-07-09 14:23 MaridiuS: doing a slider on a beat that doesnt have vocals
2017-07-09 14:23 MaridiuS: kinda contradicts your section
2017-07-09 14:24 MaridiuS: oh well thats weird i thought it had vocals there
2017-07-09 14:25 LeKhanhHoa: As for 01:10:163 (5,6) -
2017-07-09 14:26 LeKhanhHoa: Like, there are small instruments sounds at sliderend (5)
2017-07-09 14:26 LeKhanhHoa: So I'd like to leave it thou
2017-07-09 14:26 MaridiuS: yeah i know
2017-07-09 14:26 MaridiuS: 00:58:996 - but there are a bit more insta nces
2017-07-09 14:27 MaridiuS: where you also kidna skip the beat
2017-07-09 14:27 LeKhanhHoa: The vocal there sounds more like a hold to me
2017-07-09 14:29 MaridiuS: but generally nothing much to say about flow. In a diff with little spacing it isn't really felt if its a bit uncomfortable
2017-07-09 14:29 MaridiuS: but mostly needs a bit more work and aesthetics
2017-07-09 14:29 MaridiuS: on aesthetics* and on the start spacing emphasis
2017-07-09 14:30 LeKhanhHoa: Will try my best
2017-07-09 14:30 MaridiuS: rhythm seems fine
Thanks for your mod!Venix wrote:
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- 00:10:163 (1,2) - I think it plays a bit harsh because 00:11:163 (2) - this slider doesn't continue transition made by previous one. What about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8547555 It would play more comfortable. okay
good diff
- 00:56:496 (4) - I think you should move this circle into the slider's inside side just for better aesthetics, like this. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8547579 sure
- 01:28:496 (2) - Similar issue to this one from easy diff. sure
Not bad map, needs more polishing. Good luck~
Thanks to both of you for your mod!MaridiuS wrote:
insane check2017-07-09 13:45 LeKhanhHoa: Hi. Yami told me to pm you. Thanks for taking a look
2017-07-09 13:45 MaridiuS: hi
2017-07-09 13:45 MaridiuS: so generally i think that the map is not bad
2017-07-09 13:45 MaridiuS: just few concepts were not executed fully correctly
2017-07-09 13:46 LeKhanhHoa: Yes
2017-07-09 13:46 MaridiuS: so lets go
2017-07-09 13:46 MaridiuS: firstly this is subjective
2017-07-09 13:47 MaridiuS: but since 00:05:830 (1,2,3,4) - this spacing is used for the guitar sounding part
2017-07-09 13:47 MaridiuS: 00:06:496 (5) - this doesn't carry the same weight, and I'd suggest stacking it on (4)
2017-07-09 13:47 LeKhanhHoa: Idk
2017-07-09 13:47 LeKhanhHoa: Stacking it seems ugly to me
2017-07-09 13:48 MaridiuS: stacking shouldn't look ugly lul
2017-07-09 13:48 MaridiuS: ur not doing anything weird its really common
2017-07-09 13:48 MaridiuS: 00:10:163 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - oh also you should use same curve for both instances of these single taps
2017-07-09 13:48 MaridiuS: so copy paste and rotation is your friend here.
2017-07-09 13:49 LeKhanhHoa: Oh okay
2017-07-09 13:50 MaridiuS: 00:15:496 (1,3) - this overlap really doesn't look good
2017-07-09 13:50 MaridiuS: since your map is not based on overlaps, it shouldn't contain this weird of a one.
2017-07-09 13:50 MaridiuS: placing it here https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/M1JJnAf.jpg would be better
2017-07-09 13:50 LeKhanhHoa: Actually, it is repeated one more times thou
2017-07-09 13:51 MaridiuS: it doesn't fit the map
2017-07-09 13:51 MaridiuS: brb 2-3 mins
2017-07-09 13:51 LeKhanhHoa: sure
2017-07-09 13:57 MaridiuS: oki im back
2017-07-09 13:57 MaridiuS: so usually when you do this kind of overlaps, you base your map around them
2017-07-09 13:57 LeKhanhHoa: Okay
2017-07-09 13:57 MaridiuS: you just use the overlap on a seemingly random pattern
2017-07-09 13:57 MaridiuS: which could be done better with my suggestion.
2017-07-09 13:58 MaridiuS: but ofc if you apply my suggestion, you'll need to rearrange other patterns related to it
2017-07-09 13:58 LeKhanhHoa: Yes I know.
2017-07-09 13:59 MaridiuS: next, you'll want to differentiate the spacing
2017-07-09 13:59 MaridiuS: you use similar spacing on 1/1 beats as you use for 1/2 beats
2017-07-09 13:59 MaridiuS: it could get confusing
2017-07-09 14:00 MaridiuS: 00:17:496 (5,1) - for example look how close this is.
2017-07-09 14:00 MaridiuS: You'll also want to make 00:18:163 (1) - special, as it is a down beat, and seemingly strong
2017-07-09 14:00 MaridiuS: so giving it larger spacing should work much better
2017-07-09 14:00 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/HGRl6Oi.jpg this spacing might be ideal or something
2017-07-09 14:01 LeKhanhHoa: I'll see what I can do
2017-07-09 14:01 MaridiuS: it could work as a gimmick, but however, the map isn't really rhythmically consistent
2017-07-09 14:01 MaridiuS: 00:22:496 (3,4,5) - because this doesnt have a 1/1 gap, you'll have to focus a bit more to realize what's 1/2,
2017-07-09 14:02 MaridiuS: 00:26:163 (1,2,3) - here's the pattern that doesn't really fit
2017-07-09 14:02 MaridiuS: having no overlap is never a mistake
2017-07-09 14:02 MaridiuS: 00:28:830 (1,2,3) - same for this, its a bit random since you on that bit mostly not overlap it with a slider that happened previously on the timeline
2017-07-09 14:03 MaridiuS: 00:32:163 (3) - like this one isn't behind (1)
2017-07-09 14:03 LeKhanhHoa: Fair enough
2017-07-09 14:03 LeKhanhHoa: I'll fix them all
2017-07-09 14:03 MaridiuS: wait osu direct is pissing me off
2017-07-09 14:03 MaridiuS: reconnecting
2017-07-09 14:04 MaridiuS: 00:31:496 (1,2,3) -
2017-07-09 14:04 MaridiuS: when having such placement you should focus on making a triangle
2017-07-09 14:04 MaridiuS: having (3) equally visual distanced from both (2) and (1)
2017-07-09 14:04 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/NX0GIFb.jpg
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: 00:34:163 (1,2,3) - similar could be applied here
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: i prefer having one side filled, rather than having emptiness
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: will explain
2017-07-09 14:06 LeKhanhHoa: OK
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/4VeRCzc.jpg
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: something like this for example
2017-07-09 14:07 MaridiuS: you will connect more patterns visually
2017-07-09 14:07 MaridiuS: giving no empty spaces
2017-07-09 14:07 MaridiuS: 00:36:496 (6) - you can make this extend to the yellow tick before the slider
2017-07-09 14:08 MaridiuS: with this spacing it is expected for (1) to be after 1/8
2017-07-09 14:08 MaridiuS: 00:36:830 (1,2,3,4) - you can also connect patterns here in a similar way i mentioned
2017-07-09 14:08 MaridiuS: by placing (3) close to the big slider
2017-07-09 14:09 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/w8VOZO5.jpg
2017-07-09 14:09 MaridiuS: 00:38:163 (1,2,3,4) - here another example where you could fill more holes, do it like this pattern 00:48:830 (1,2,3,4) -
2017-07-09 14:11 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/xqJ9AIf.jpg 00:42:163 (1,2,4) - see how i've put (2) to have same visual distance from both sliders
2017-07-09 14:11 MaridiuS: that's a e s t h e t i c
2017-07-09 14:12 LeKhanhHoa: will try
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: the rest of connecting patterns i'll leave to you
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: will now ginve some other gameplay feedback
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: 00:42:163 (1,2,3,4) - you formed here a nice circular flow
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: 00:43:163 (5,6) - but broke it unfairly here
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: without a reason, it should all be a part of the same part, therefore same kind of flow that you formed with previous two
2017-07-09 14:13 MaridiuS: 00:45:496 (4,5,6) - here it was done well
2017-07-09 14:13 LeKhanhHoa: i like to preceive it as this thou
2017-07-09 14:15 LeKhanhHoa: I mean, it is like this
2017-07-09 14:16 LeKhanhHoa: 1 2 3 is one group
2017-07-09 14:16 LeKhanhHoa: 4 5 6 is one group
2017-07-09 14:16 LeKhanhHoa: and both is like that
2017-07-09 14:16 MaridiuS: but a pattern alter
2017-07-09 14:16 MaridiuS: 00:45:496 (4,5,6) -
2017-07-09 14:16 MaridiuS: they're done in same flow style
2017-07-09 14:16 MaridiuS: on the pattern i pointed out it is not
2017-07-09 14:17 MaridiuS: okay now the kiai is a bit lacking in visual consistency
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: since the map up to this point
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: kept a level of consistent visual distance
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: so should the kiai
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/Sx8tJCJ.jpg lets take this pattern for example
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: 01:01:996 (1,2,3) -
2017-07-09 14:19 MaridiuS: thanks to the approach circle, we can tell that (3) is further away from (2) than (1) is
2017-07-09 14:19 MaridiuS: there are two options, to make them the same distance
2017-07-09 14:19 MaridiuS: and the most preferably is to make (3) also be the same distance from (2) and (1)
2017-07-09 14:20 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/kha7NFO.jpg this, but its your choice this is generally the most accepted style
2017-07-09 14:21 LeKhanhHoa: Problably will make it bigger thou
2017-07-09 14:21 MaridiuS: 01:06:830 (5,1,3) - https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/dspK3xr.jpg another example
2017-07-09 14:21 MaridiuS: 01:12:163 (3,4) - same should kinda be applied to blanket distance
2017-07-09 14:21 MaridiuS: 01:12:163 (3,5) -
2017-07-09 14:21 MaridiuS: if both blankets have same distance it should loook better
2017-07-09 14:22 MaridiuS: 01:04:996 (3) - this should be 2 circles, since it has vocals on both the start and the end of the slider
2017-07-09 14:23 MaridiuS: 01:10:163 (5) - good idea is to make this slider 1/1, because you're following exclusively vocals kinda
2017-07-09 14:23 LeKhanhHoa: Oh, I can't hear vocals on the sliderend thou
2017-07-09 14:23 MaridiuS: doing a slider on a beat that doesnt have vocals
2017-07-09 14:23 MaridiuS: kinda contradicts your section
2017-07-09 14:24 MaridiuS: oh well thats weird i thought it had vocals there
2017-07-09 14:25 LeKhanhHoa: As for 01:10:163 (5,6) -
2017-07-09 14:26 LeKhanhHoa: Like, there are small instruments sounds at sliderend (5)
2017-07-09 14:26 LeKhanhHoa: So I'd like to leave it thou
2017-07-09 14:26 MaridiuS: yeah i know
2017-07-09 14:26 MaridiuS: 00:58:996 - but there are a bit more insta nces
2017-07-09 14:27 MaridiuS: where you also kidna skip the beat
2017-07-09 14:27 LeKhanhHoa: The vocal there sounds more like a hold to me
2017-07-09 14:29 MaridiuS: but generally nothing much to say about flow. In a diff with little spacing it isn't really felt if its a bit uncomfortable
2017-07-09 14:29 MaridiuS: but mostly needs a bit more work and aesthetics
2017-07-09 14:29 MaridiuS: on aesthetics* and on the start spacing emphasis
2017-07-09 14:30 LeKhanhHoa: Will try my best
2017-07-09 14:30 MaridiuS: rhythm seems fine
A little side note:
I'm not nicpicky for the opening part, so it will probably stays like that
00:36:830 (1,2,3,4) - seems fine to me.
00:35:830 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Will be overmapped if it ends on yellow tick.
00:42:163 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - is different grouping to me, and since the ds is small, I think it is fine.
01:10:163 (5,6) - Is explained in the last part
thanks for the mod!Venix wrote:
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[LMT's Hard]Not bad map, needs more polishing. Good luck~
- 00:37:830 (1) - This slider is overmapped. There's no 1/8 sound. hihats
- 00:56:163 (3,4) - Don't you think this jump is a bit too big in contrast to others on this diff? I prefer nerf it like you did on other jumps. slider leniency makes the actual spacing easier than the circle -> slider jump
Thanks for your mod!Neoskylove wrote:
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00:15:496 - from this, music has vocal, but you are still following guitar(?) sound, can be boring. Oh, actually I still try to follow the vocals.
Where there're hold vocals, I will use most pattern like this thou. I guess it's more interesting to play rather then just the vocals thou.
01:11:163 - no reason for jump. this part doesn't have any emphasis yes, changed
Good map. GL!
thanks Mir!!Mir wrote:
[LMT's Hard]
- 00:13:830 (3,4,1) - I misread (1) as a 1/1 gap, maybe making all of these the same spacing would make it clearer that it's 1/2? ye was my original intention, not sure when it moved
- 00:14:496 (1) - Also it may be better to leave these as single repeats instead of double because it's kinda hard to acc these if you're singletapping. It kinda forces you to alternate.. minor thing though I guess. 1 more repeat is noticeably too offputing considering how I use this pattern later on so uhh don't think I could change it
- 00:37:830 (1) - I can get them being used for drums and stuff but these sounds are a lot weaker in comparison. In the interest of making the diff not too complicated maybe removing these and replacing them with one circle would work? kinda kills the fun and that's like the only way I could express those 1/4s to tell the player that they do play an important part in the track
- 01:19:496 (1,2,1,2) - NC patterning is different from the beginning 00:04:830 (1,2,3,4) - ? How come? o.o oh good catch lol, fixed except for the last one since it's a little unique
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victorfernando wrote:
Very good i think is clean ._. , Good job boi go ranked <3 Will do <3
Mir wrote:
on reqewtqwes
ahem, I mean request
[General]
- Kiai 00:58:163 - lacks a lot of hitsounding. Only drum whistles for the occasional snare isn't enough when there's a lot more going on in the song, it's not varied enough feedback.
[Easy]
You can probably lower AR to like 3 or something, it's not that dense - this diff. Sure
- 00:23:496 (1,2) - Idk about this flow, I feel like new players could possibly mistake the reverse arrow for the sliderhead. (it does happen) Maybe try something like this? Done
- 00:38:496 (3,4) - Mmm similar with flow, might be a bit harsh compared to 00:43:163 (2,3,4) - 00:45:830 (2,3,4). Perhaps something like this may work but it would require some repositioning. // 00:48:163 (2,3,4) - OK, move a ton of note too
- 00:51:496 - Really loud clap here I think could be removed cuz it's not in the song. Wait, random clap that other diffs don't have. Removed
- 01:00:830 (1,2,3,4) - Square like this? Tried my best thou
- 01:18:163 - This whistle really doesn't fit imo, sounds kinda jarring if anything.
- 01:19:496 (1,2) - Blanket on 1's tail is off. Done
[Normal]
- 00:04:830 (1,2) - Blanket here is also off, if you wanna make these blanket patterns on low diffs they should be pretty perfect otherwise aesthetics suffer I hate eyeballing this
- 00:23:496 (1,2,3,4) - Flow like this may be more appropriate with how things like 00:20:830 (1,2,3,4) - 00:31:496 (1,2,3,4) - are constructed. Fair enough
- 00:37:496 (2,3,4) - Triangle possible here. Moar aesthetics
- 00:44:496 (1,2,3) - The first one maps the vocals with denser rhythm than the second, but the vocals are the same rhythm. Shouldn't they be consistent? // 00:55:163 (1,2,3) - Yes they should be now
[Insane]
- 00:19:663 (3,4) - Minor, but overlapping these like this might look better? okay
- 00:22:496 (3,4) - Mmm, there isn't anything here that I can hear, maybe consider removing these? It would kind of ruin your thing with 00:22:830 (5) - though... I don't know, it's quite minor but if you want to consider doing something about it you can. Uhh. There are a few reasons why there are objects there. First is that a 1/1 slider will fit there, but it will kinda ruin the rhythm. Second is that I don't want a gap here, as the vocal is kinda hold. I guess 00:22:496 (3,4) - could be turn into a slider for more fitting.
- 00:33:163 (3) - Also nothing here. Kinda explained it above
- 00:42:163 (1,2,3) - Could make a triangle to fit with the square at 00:42:830 (4,5,6,1) - ? I can't see why not.
- 00:46:830 (1,2) - Having NC'd these I expected 00:48:163 (3,4) - 00:49:496 (5,6) - to also have NCs since they follow the same type of vocal. It looks somewhat inconsistent as it is now. Uhhh, there's a few thing here. 00:46:830 (1,2) - I thought this is kinda the same vocal as 00:36:163 (5,6) - thus explained the white color. And I want this to be like a transistion between 2 sections, so there's that.
The biggest problem is the lack of hitsounding in the kiai. You can add a lot of snares, whistles for vocals, etc etc. Atm just drum whistles for occasional snares isn't enough. About the hitsound part, I did go talk to Yami and ask him to help me with it. So he gave me this version that is it now! I hope it's the best it could be.
For explaination purpose:
On Easy, 01:08:496 - and on Normal, 01:08:663 - don't have clap hitsound but upper diff have because it sounds really awkward since it got only 1 of the clap there, while Hard and Insane has all 2 of them, so I think it's best to remove it from Easy and Normal.
Call me back when all of this is addressed for a recheck.
[Crz]Sword wrote:
from queue but aaa I'm late!it's bubbled...
so sorry!
If u have another map needs mods pm it to me if you want~
Thanks for both of your suggestions, but I currently have no map.Enkrypton wrote:
From my queue, but hey look its bubbled. if you got any other map i can mod it if u want lol.
I modded this over the course of 2 days and did not notice the map updated a few times in between and even got bubbled. I might as well keep the mods here if they are ever needed.
Thanks!Venix wrote:
gratz on bubble!
Troll wrote:
from queue
[Easy]
nice map!
[Normal]
00:30:330 (4) - if you're going along with the vocals which i'm guessing you are from the first part, then you should just get rid of this note This is meant for consistency and it feels fine there thou
01:08:163 (5) - 01:10:830 (5) - these angled sliders look a bit out of place meant for the longer slider (this is 3/4 thou)
01:14:163 (3) - nc here instead of where the 1 is consistency NCing with the top diff
[Insane]
i feel like the intro is more intense playing-wise than the verse which doesn't really make sense cuz it should be the same intensity, same for the outro both the intro and the outro don't have vocals, and the instruments there are significantly stronger, so there's that
00:15:496 (1) - i think you should follow the guitar here because you do in other similar places too no, since the piano at the start is significantly stronger than here, besides, there's vocal here as well, so I want to keep that
00:17:163 (4) - why is the head normal sampleset? oh snap
thanks for the mod!Troll wrote:
[LMT's Hard]
00:05:330 (2) - this looks a bit off (position it so it's in line with the 1) ye
00:37:830 (1) - 00:48:496 (1) - 00:51:163 (1) - this isn't supported by the music hihats
00:43:496 (5) - i'd personally flip this horizontally that gives less emphasis on 6 which is a different sound.
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